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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:43:00

But then they found their line in the postelection attempting to throw the results of a free and fair election, declared by chris scripts as the most secure election in american history, it was one of those dramatic things to watch. and vaughn was one of the reporters was on the ground when a lot of that unfolded. when you look at that, you see the arc of at least one possible case, is to charge this. either way that check jack smith did, using the local laws, local activities, which is a long running multi prolong conspiracy. what is the significance, though, of charging conduct up to 2021? i heard the reporting. what does that mean charging the defrauding in a longer time span? again, i want to be very careful we actually have a judge who may give us thoughts on this as well. the documents that leaked which may or may not be a predicate, right? and then, vans reporting that match this. we re gonna learn this together tonight. when you take that to september 21, those are late

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:45:00

Of crimes that are chargeable under state law. but to say yes, this was all part of throwing a federal election. that s still very much possible, particularly in these cases that have been investigated and pursued separately, which all in the indications are what happens. i just want to talk about the trial date, because a lot of people are saying, this is great. but when is the trial going to happen. and vaughn sort of alluded to this. but at the state level, there s a lot of things in georgia, that takes a long time. this is a long process. and to bear the case. we talked a lot about the streamline january 6th federal case. if it s one of these huge rico cases, it could take a very long time. jury selection, there s a jury selection that has taken over six months, just the jury selection. so this state case could be quite ways down the road. conversely, the federal case, because of these threats, the federal judge has indicated,

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:05:00

Timeline that we were expecting, a case of this magnitude, we expected it would take at least two days to present. there were two witnesses that were lined up for tomorrow. in fact, for whatever reason, the d.a. and her team decided to call them in the middle of the day, basically saying, hey, listen, i know we told you to come in tomorrow. but come in today. we want to get your testimony today. one of those witnesses is george chidi, an independent journalist here in atlanta, who s kind of been almost live tweeting his experience of this, talking about waiting in the hallway, talking about talking with another witness, former lieutenant governor jeff duncan we just saw right there. so is getting bits and pieces of what this process looks like. again, the biggest update on timing, according to my sources, with knowledge of these proceedings izzy grand jury is currently voting. symone? so, the grand jury is voting right now, blayne. what happens after that? walk us what have your so

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:19:00

Which is a rarity as you and i both know. there s a level of transparency in the state that s going to reveal a lot of what happened in this case. yeah, katie, you walk us through several points. i would love for you to just elaborate a little bit more on the math you were doing. we hear so much about the trial process. and sometimes, again, it s important to distinguish, we hear the word jury. the jury, the people we see on television shows, 12 in the box, unanimous, you are reminding everyone that while every defendant is afforded that right, we are not reporting on a charge. but we know trump is a defendant in other cases. we know the jury trial, it appears, to convict it s unanimous. walk us through in more detail what you are explaining. i think it s more important tonight the reasons why many people have heard, oh, yes grand juries cannot indict even am sandwich, that maybe a slight overstatement. but the math that you said, it means that they won t have to win over every sure.

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