boiling point with the committee and their subpoenas and defying and all that, that may give that may give a push for the justice department to act and get aggressive, which i hope is what happens. so, i think they have a lot of indirect pressure, but there is almost, with the exception of kinzinger and cheney, who are heroes here, there is no good faith on the republican side in the house on this, at least that s public. and you know, the problem is the whole system s built on the presumption of honorable people. and we have some dishonorable ones here trying, in my view, to cover up a horrendous, seditious crime, so i think the committee ought to do the most maximum thing it can and eventually it s going to, i think, come down to garland and will he act, and i hope he does. neal, before i get to kurt, i want to ask you, neal, this really quick question. if they do end up subpoenaing jim jordan and jordan ends up defying the subpoena, can they can you hold a sitting member of co
tools that we will have to consider. mike, you and i are old enough to remember when the only thing more unusual than a congressional committee threatening to or, in fact, subpoenaing another a sitting member of congress, was the possibility that under those circumstances, the sitting member of congress would defy the subpoena. so i ask you, you know, this all it feels like this committee is, like, we re going to do whatever we need to do to get to the bottom of this, and the question i have for you is, knowing the republicans in this in their current incarnation as you do, is there really anything that this committee can do to jim jordan and others to make them give the kind of testimony that would actually help us figure out what happened on 1/6? well, i think they re going to resist in every way they can. again, guilty dogs barking loudly. i think the committee has certain powers to increase pressure on them. what i would be worried about if i were on the trump side of thi