these videos are horrific. they're going to keep coming possibly for years. how important is this evidence not just in court but exposing the truth about january 6th? >> don, legally these videos will be the heart of the prosecutions of these capitol insurrectionists. as a prosecutor, this is the best possible evidence you can have. all 500 plus of these defendants are charged with one or both. one, assaulting police officers, we're looking at it now. it as clear as this video and two is unforcible entry at the capitol. more broadly, though, these videos are truth. there is still such thing as truth. there is still such thing as fact at least in our courtrooms and prosecution system and all the denials and spin in the world just cannot change that. that's part of the beauty of our criminal justice process. >> prosecutors also release the t video of grady owens attacking
that or it's not true or this didn't happen, no they haven't proven collusion. it's not something. no, he doesn't work with putin, he doesn't have a hammer and sickle. jesse: they listen to you when you say that? >> they listen but i don't know that they hear me. i'll keep pounding my head against the wall. here's the thing for me. i'm independent. i see where there's truth and i'll say when your argument is better than mine and you can convince me i'll believe it. jesse: is hard to argue with facts. cnn taking even more hit for threatening to identify the person behind the gif of president trump body slamming the cnn logo. it started when he shared the t video on twitter and went viral. they hunted down the creator and threatened to reveal his identity. when you hear about a company going after some little guy on the internet, how does that make you feel? >> it's disgusting. it makes them look absolutely terrible. it's a very, very bad look for cnn. it's hurting them. they've also guaranteed that