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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20191203 07:25:00

Don mcgahn case said, well, mcgahn has to testify and testify now because the house may need his information for impeachment. and, yes, that decision the trump administration s going to try and put it on hold by going up to the u.s. supreme court. but it may be the case that not just mcgahn but other people like pompeo and bolton may have to testify sooner rather than later. and if that s so, then that could change the dynamics. so i think the house judiciary committee meeting on wednesday is important not for what the witnesses say but what s the house saying? what s the democratic strategy looking like on wednesday, two days after this ruling in d.c. by this judge tonight? and just as legal strategy by the guy again who has written this book on the subject, if bolton comes through late, if pompeo decides or is compelled to appear late, do you just throw them on as witnesses in a senate trial on the senate

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20191203 04:24:00

I don t think that it s going to capture the public s imagination and attention just because it is kind of dry constitutional law work. i taught constitutional law for 20 years. i tend to think this is not going to be the most exciting thing. they re going to have three people who are going to say, hey, this is an impeachable offense, they re democratic witnesses, one will be a republican witness saying it s not an impeachable offense. good luck to that person. i can t really fathom the argument. but good luck. and then i think it moves to really the ultimate question, what s the house going to do? what are those articles of impeachment going to look like if they re drafted? how many are they? are they going to include the mueller stuff? today we had a twist in that because people like me have been saying, look, ukraine s really simple, stripped down. go, fight, bring that forward as fast as you can. but a judge in d.c. today in the

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20191203 04:25:00

Don mcgahn case said, well, mcgahn has to testify and testify now because the house may need his information for impeachment. yes, that decision the trump administration s going to try to put it on hold by going up to the u.s. supreme court. but not just mcgahn but other people like pompeo and bolton may have to testify sooner rather than later. if that s so, then that could change the dynamics. so i think the house judiciary committee meeting on wednesday is important not for what the witnesses say, but what s the house saying? what s the democratic strategy looking like on wednesday two days after this ruling in d.c. by this judge tonight? just as legal strategy by the guy, again, who has written this book on the subject, if bolton comes through late, if pompeo decides or is compelled to appear late, do you just throw them on as witnesses in a senate trial on the senate floor? i think you do.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20191203 04:12:00

It trips into the new year. but they re going to eventually move by the latest mid-january inside of the house. speaker pelosi will continue to encourage investigations of president trump and his administration on other fronts. but the impeachment process rides on the ukraine issue more than anything else. kimberly, you re a lawyer and i m not. the case that holds the keys to whether don mcgahn can or would or should come and testify before the house got a boost at the federal judge level today. what do you think the chances are that we will see don mcgahn raise his right hand and get sworn in and/or is this a game of beat the clock still and it s going to run out of time? i think there will be an attempt to run out the clock as much as possible. on that essence. i wouldn t count on seeing don mcgahn or any other white house official anytime soon while that

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Transcripts for MSNBC Weekends With Alex Witt 20191201 17:34:00

The mueller report is included. but i am not for pulling in the mueller report, and that is a political decision and not my lane, but the general gut is when the you are trying a case to the american people, and that is what is happening here, it is best to keep it simple as possible and not because they are simple tons, but because there is so much information even involved in this transaction where he was forcing the ukrainians to do his bidding in order to get there, and the arms they needed. they had to do his political bidding there. is enough information in that where it is overly confusing and start over and bring in the obstruction from the mueller report, and not the mention much of the information requires witnesses that are coming from the white house and the don mcgahn testimony, and suddenly back in court dealing with the supreme court issues and don mcgahn and is he is going to testify, and blah, blah with the immunity and keep it as simple as possible and to ukraine.

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