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Transcripts for CNN The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer 20240604 21:02:00

Former president s team has received any notification of an indictment. but they know that this is very likely coming soon. he has received a target letter informing him he is the target of an investigation. he has received an invitation to appear before this grand jury. he declined that invitation, and late last week, his lawyers met with jack smith and his team. we re told during that meeting, which usually comes again, right before an indictment, they didn t expect that they would be able to change the course of this investigation, but they were hoping to possibly delay. so jake we have our whole team fanned out talking to the trump team. i was just speaking with lawyers for other potential targets in this investigation at this point it is unclear if the former president has been indicted. so we re watching and waiting. all right, paula reid, stand by. appreciate it. let s go to following the reaction inside trump world. she is in bridgewater, new jersey just down the road from

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Transcripts for CNN The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer 20240604 21:00:00

Week. against donald trump twice arrested, twice impeached former president of the united states. currently the dominant front-runner for the republican presidential nomination. we re going to begin with cnn legal correspondent paula reid who is tracking all the latest developments. and paula, it s unclear when or if the federal grand jury has even voted on whether or not they want to indict donald trump. what do we know about how and when we might find out? here s what we know, jake. we know the grand jury that has been hearing evidence in the special counsel s investigation into january 6th. they were in building earlier today for several hours, and then they left, except for the grand jury foreperson. and that is significant because that is the only member of the grand jury that is required to return an indictment. but as you said, at this point, it is unclear if they have voted to indict the former president or any of his associates. right now we have reporters in the court watch

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Transcripts for CNN The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer 20240604 21:14:00

Be charged in this investigation. he was offered an invitation to appear before this grand jury. he perhaps wisely declined that invitation. and we know late last week his lawyers met with jack smith and members of his team. now, jake, that s the kind of meeting that usually happens when an indictment is imminent. defense attorneys of course hope maybe they could change the minds of prosecutors. but sources tell cnn the trump defense team did not expect that they would be able to change the trajectory of this investigation, but they hope to maybe be able to delay it a little bit. but this grand jury usually meets on tuesdays and thursdays. we saw them this morning show up to work. they were in the courthouse for several hours, giving them the opportunity to hear additional evidence, or potentially to vote on an indictment. and it was significant, jake, when we saw most of the grand jury leaf the courthouse, but the foreperson remained behind that was a sign to us that this

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Transcripts for CNN The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer 20240604 21:15:00

May not be business as usual. because that s the only person you need to return an indictment. and we have a team of reporters in the courthouse. they ve been watching the magistrate hearings very closely. now another big question, jake, if there is an indictment, typically they re filed under seal until arrest. now it could be that the special counsel may seek to try to get this unsealed, right? to get the message out to the public sooner, not allow the former president or anyone else who is potentially charged to fill the void. but that is ultimately up to the judge. we saw in the mar-a-lago case that the former president posted on truth social, and then he had several days to fill the void. so we re all watching and waiting to see what the special counsel does here. thank you so much. we do have breaking news right now. from tierney snead, two of our reporters covering this. the grand jury investigating the 2020 election interference has in fact handed up an indictment. the federa

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Transcripts for CNN The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer 20240604 21:13:00

Magistrate s courtroom. what does that mean? the grand jury foreperson is the only member of the grand jury that is needed to return an indictment. indictments are usually returned to a magistrate judge. we ve been watching the magistrate judge s proceedings all day. and this is significant. now we know we have the one person who is needed to return a possible indictment in the courtroom where it would happen. now at this point again, we do not know if the former president has been indicted. he does not appear to have been informed either. it appears he is posting speculation on truth social. but this is significant because this would be the next step if the grand jury had indicted the former president or any of his associates, the foreperson would go to the magistrate judge to do the return of that indictment. so we re standing by. any moment we may know if the former president has been indicted. now let s just remember how we got here, jake. what we know is that the former president

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Transcripts for CNN The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer 20240604 21:43:00

Mention is a political consultant who helped him plan a plan to submit fraudulent slates of electors to obstruct the election proceeding. paula, i want to read one section about three criminal conspiracy that special counsel jack smith and the grand jury are alleging donald trump purposed. those three conspiracies are this is on page 2 of the indictment, conspiracy to defraud the united states by using dishonesty, fraud and deceit to impair, obstruct and defeat the lawful government function by which the results of thpresidential action are collected and cound and certified by the federal vernment. that s in violation of 18 usc 371 which andy mccabe med earlier. b, a conspiracy to obstruct and impede the congressional proceeding which the results are counted and certified. that s obviously on january 6th, the proceeding that mike pence was presiding over.

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Transcripts for CNN The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer 20240604 21:16:00

Evidence in special counsel jack smith s investigations into efforts to overturn the 2020 election did hand up an indictment in tuesday in the federal courthouse in washington, d.c. the foreperson of the grand jury, along with a justice department prosecutor were present in the courtroom when the indictment was returned that is what we have right now. let s go to katind katelyn polah what we have. it was quite clear today that one of the most senior prosecutors working in the special counsel s office was there to make this indictment returned to get into it the court system along with the foreperson from the grand jury that has been reviewing this evidence related to january 6th, donald trump and the 2020 election for months and months and months. i was just in the courtroom. we had been waiting for hours. the grand injuries left around 2:00 p.m. and nine minutes, ten minutes after 5:00, that is when this prosecutor from the special counsel s office, molly gaston came into the courtr

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ana Cabrera Reports 20240604 14:18:00

The other thing we know about this, as we read the tea leaves is we know there are two grand juries currently seated as we speak. one that meets on mondays and tuesdays. the other that meets on thursdays and fridays. one of those two grand juries will be hearing the presentation of this case. charles, do you any fani willis is ahead of jack smith s team ahead of potential indictments, because of how they overlap? these two investigations are dealing with a similar set of facts. i do think it s possible they re in touch with one another. there s no reason that fani willis or jack smith would have to change their approach. fani willis is at the state level, jack smith at the federal level. neither of them will conflict with mat the other is doing. photographs from a security standpoint and timing standpoint, they might seek to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ana Cabrera Reports 20240604 14:16:00

Allies to overturn georgia s 2020 election results. the work is accomplished. we ve been working for 2 1/2 years. we re ready to go. some people may not be happy with the decisions i m making. sometimes when people are unhappy, they act in a way that could create harm. i m not willing to put my employees in harm s way. joining us nbc cleel analyst charles pull man and blayne alexander at the courthouse. blayne, can you walk us through how that courthouse is preparing? i ll start with the breaking news this morning, ana. former president donald trump has made three legal attempts in georgia to essentially get this entire investigation to go away. another one of those has been denied this morning. he made a request before judge robert mcbernie overseeing the

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Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20240604 23:01:00

Go as a federal jury meets tomorrow as special counsel jack smith gets new evidence in the mar-a-lago case. plus, remarkable new video into outfront of ukrainian forces taking out one of putin s prized rocket launchers as a putin arch nemesis loses his appeal. his wife is outfront. a long-time republican operative quits ron desantis. why he says the problem isn t the campaign, it s desantis himself. ed rollins is my guest. let s go outfront. good evening, i m erin burnett. outfront tonight, new surveillance video in the mar-a-lago case just surfacing. a development tonight, a breaking development. we ll share more details in a moment because it comes as two major indictments are looming for trump. in washington the grand jury investigating trump s efforts to overturn the election are expected to meet hours from now. in georgia a grand jury that could vote on whether to indict trump met today. that vote could come as early as tomorrow.

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