acknowledge that if donald trump, in fact, knew the purpose of the meeting was to get information from the russians about hillary clinton, which he most certainly knew, because steve bannon was telling the truth when he said that there is no way that donald trump jr. took the meeting, had the meeting, and didn t report back to daddy. well, he did say that, and steve -ing wh building on tha he did concede that would be very concerning. that is the exact thing mueller is probing that michael cohen will reportedly testify to, and that nira and i pointed out. steve bannon already implied he believed donald trump was in on seeking that foreign help. right. so what i heard steve bannon say today is that when we all find out that that is, in fact, exactly what happened, that in his estimation the president committed treason. that s the news of this interview tonight. i agree. i think the reality here is that
with a republican like rick gates saying, i got busted, did this stuff, manafort led it and this is the way we did business and this is who trump put in charge of the campaign, does that at some point catch up with him? i think there are three aspects to that. i think it matters. it will be hard to say mr. mueller did not have good reason to be investigating these people. this is not a witch hunt. they didn t confess a stray crime. gates is confessing to a bunch of crimes. they have manafort for a bunch of crimes. and the fact that he s wasting everybody s time will go by the wayside. the second thing i thought was very interesting. liars lie and cheat in big ways and little. one of the things he confessed to was violating the terms of his parole.
switch. it s trump s own team admitting they did the bait and switch defending all of this. trump also put his lawyer out in the cold, jay explaining why he put out that false information. the president was not involved in the drafting of the statement and did not issue the statement. it came from donald trump jr. i had bad information. it s important to point out in a situation like this, over time, facts develop. facts develop and trump infamously crafted the statement with hope hicks. mueller s team interviewed her. she was spotted on air force one again this weekend hours before this new tweet. trump and his son lied in their old defense the meeting was about adoption. that old lie itself could be a crime if anyone told it to federal investigators and attempt to obstruct justice if prosecutors prove they were
control? i think ultimately he will be losing control. i don t see it right now. some people are saying yes, other people looking at the situation wondering where we re going to go with mueller and what will happen. we have to stay tuned. we will stay tuned, barbara, someone there in the building, thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. next up, the filmmaker and increasingly political activist, rob reiner. right after the break. experience the versatility of utility,