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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110924:20:35:00

leslie s home and all the family s possessions were auctioned off to pay their medical bills. and so began repercussions neither they nor anyone else imagined. a haunting really that would go on for decades. first the siblings who kept each other alive through crisis and recovery were separated. leslie moved in with relatives in another town and started at a new school. brooks, just a term shy of high school graduation, stayed in the neighborhood with church members so he could finish school. at the end of the day, i was still i didn t want to be strapped down in the hospital, and i didn t want to be stuck in the house with security. it was all necessary, but it was hard to take for a 16-year-old and a 13-year-old. and glen ake and stephen hatch were still out there somewhere. coming up, worst fears are confirmed.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110924:20:58:00

decades s long tribulation. despite their long and detailed confessions, glen ake, the trigger man, and stephen hatch his accomplice, had pleaded months to to the murders of killing reverend douglass and his wife marilyn and shooting the children. stephen hatch was tried first at the canadian county courthouse. hatch was a follower, but he s the one that picked out the house that night. he s the one that wanted to commit another crime. he s the one that created the energy for actually for the second crime. and the state of oklahoma looked to have an ironclad case against him. most important, of course, the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110924:21:36:00

they had denied raping me. and so i think right then it just really threw me for a loop. i was only supposed to talk like 30 seconds, and it ended up being three or four minutes because i was so upset. and remembered every minute of it like it was happening right then. not only did i have nightmares, i was afraid to go to restaurants, i was afraid to sleep at night, i heard noises that would wake me up because i was afraid somebody was coming to get me. and not only did i not get to go to my parents funeral, i denied that they had died. he just still even after all these years just seemed like there was no remorse. and by not only denying but calling you a liar basically. right. and was like i just could see where that poor 12-year-old girl could have thought that i did or this happened. and i was like there s no thought, it did. the clemency appeal was denied. and so on august 9, 1996, leslie and brooks douglass drove from oklahoma city to mccallister

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110924:20:42:00

payne didn t know then about the douglass case, didn t connect the two right away, but he did have something to go. the homeowner s new datsun 280z was missing. we were able to put out a national bulletin for the vehicle. hatch, ake, and ginger keefe squeezed into the stolen car with marilyn douglass visa. the three went to california, then doubled back east to wyoming. hatch and ake looking for work. but the murderous roadtrip was about to end in a bar in downtown baggs, wyoming. ake got drunk, started slapping ginger around. she d had enough, and at her first opportunity spilled her guts to the barkeep. the bar owner alerted the police. by then ake and hatch had escaped in colorado. jeff coreville was a detective sergeant in colorado back then. our deputies found out that the car was associated with ake and hatch and that they were

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rotc commission, then went to law school and got married. but again and again, both put their lives on hold to unpack their awful memories for trials and appeals and parole and clemency hearings, for glen ake and stephen hatch. how many times did you have to testify? i think it was a total of nine. what did it do to you? as soon as i would hear that i was going to need to go testify again, you know, my mind would go to that place. and it would just it was a month of or however long, leading up to it, and the apprehension and the fear. just plain old fear. in 1990, 11 years after the murders, just out of law school, just about broke, frankly, with a marriage headed south, brooks decided almost on a whim to run

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