line on mark business and marc thiessen, former speechwriter for george w. bush and a fox news contributor. this is disturbing on a lot of levels. given what we know, mark, is this a treasonist crime? it is. it s treason. look, jennifer griffin made the point after 9-11, we loosened access to intelligence. i had a top secret security clearance in the pentagon and the white house. the goal was not give 21-year-olds access to finish cia methods. the goal was to break down the walls of the intelligence community and the fbi because they weren t talking to each other. nobody was talking about spreading intelligence this far and wide. the idea that a 21-year-old kid can expose sources and methods of how we have penetrated the chinese people liberation army.
to be taken out of the scif on capitol hill, certainly a staffer working for a u.s. senator with a top secret security clearance you would not be treated in the same fashion as being able to say you ve been transparent, maybe there will be more searches and maybe we ll find out if there s more information that they find. john: and one other point, totally different point. upcoming meeting between the president and the speaker of the house, do you think they will reach an agreement on a debt limit? probably not today, maybe somewhere on some type of negotiation and what the terms are. speaker mccarthy was sent a staff memo from the white house and he responded saying he is not interested in staff memos, he s interested in having direct negotiations with the president which we will see today. john: he probably did the same thing with the staff memo that the white house counsel s office did with the oversight committee. throw them right in the trash, no operation there. john: th
there and other homes. trump s lawyers claim they were left in the dark during the search. the former president fought with the national archives and justice department for months leading to that unannounced fbi raid in august. martha? martha: thanks. with that, we bring in john roberts who has decades of experience covering a white house in crisis. he s the former chief white house correspondent and has been on the ground during president multiple presidential investigations. gillian turner held a top secret security clearance and prepared classified briefings for the president. great to have you with us. my first question, gillian, goes to you. now they re collecting these
clearances right now. when i was a staffer in the white house i had a top secret security clearance. and i was a staffer. you have people across the government right now that have more access to more intelligence and defense information than elected members of congress who by their very definition are accountable to the people they represent. i think we are getting to a bit of dangerous territory here, almost a mini government shutdown, things are not happening until you can constitute. it s dangerous, too, you know what happens in government shutdowns, people don t get benefits, military families get upset, people recognize the checks are not in the mail. we are not there yet, but dangerously close to going from i think some petty personal grievances, also some very real authentic differences in policy and governance versus not being able to function. last point, when newt gingrinch was the speaker i had been involved as a bit player in the mezzanine and contract of
0 harris: yeah, bret baier, on special report. you have transportation secretary pete buttigieg. find our co-workers luggage. i will. harris: thank you so very much. this is fun, right, em? we will cover it as it happens. america reports. sandra: great coverage, team. america reports with a live look at the house floor where lawmakers are back at it for a third day now trying to select a house speaker and once again it appears congressman elect kevin mccarthy is headed for defeat. hello, welcome, i m sandra smith on this thursday afternoon. hello, john. john: welcome to friday eve, sandra. gop dissenters nominating florida congressman-elect byron donalds and democrats unified behind hakeem jeffries as that party threw his name into the hat for house speaker. ahead of the proceedings, republicans acknowledging they did not expect much to change. nothing [inaudible] i wouldn t be here [inaudible] doesn t really matter what my vote is at this point because he does