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pursued them." moore called the whole thing a baseless attack. here's a statement from his campaign. "moore has endured more attacks than any in the arena still, a bipartisan force on capitol hill is calling for him to step down from his nomination." and henry joins us live from capitol hill. >> brand-new this hour, roy moore has gone on a tweet storm charging that this is what he calls the "obama-clinton machine" coming at him. he has vowing he will never go up the fight so he is pushing back hard and caught in the middle is the sentry publican leader mitch mcconnell who has been warning steve bannon and others to be careful with these
old. she said i went along with it, i went to his house a couple of times. it's not really that question of her going, it's a question of whether or not he did this. i understand this is a hugely politically charged environment. his opponents are looking for anything they possibly can find to take him down the long-held republic and seat. the question is whether or not this happened and whether or not voters will hold that against him. a.b.? >> this is an impossible situation for republicans who are calling him not to run or to step down from his nomination because this is not summing that can be proven, or prosecuted prosecuted. you see the senators in washington saying this is no place for someone like this. his candidacy is not sustainable if these allegations are true. we have no way of knowing to prove that to be true and then
you have alabama republicans defending him and you have his campaign basically saying -- all of this coming out and as ed pointed out, within the 76 day mark, he's really protected legally and he is not going to step down. this is not a situation republicans will be able to get out of. i think they're going to have roy moore in the senate on december 13th unless this energizes democrats and he loses the election. >> martha: up by 60% right now now. some people, lisa murkowski among them who is a right in candidate herself in 2010 suggest people write and both are strange. >> i think it's absolutely outrageous for senators like john mccain to be presuming moore guilty. that's not america. this is something that is a
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>> as you said, busy day appear. his spokeswoman sarah sanders a moment ago putting out a statement saying this was a huge step forward today on taxes toward getting his biggest victory in office, saying this will be massive tax relief for our viewers. the tax packages moved to the house floor as you noted. kevin brady offered an amendment to fine-tune the plan. on one hand, the senate bill with delay the slashing of corporate taxes that the president had been touting so much and that could turn off conservatives, but the package also offers some improved benefits to the middle class that could help bring along
wavering republicans in maybe even some modern democrats in the senate. here's what it had come of senate plan. but the house and senate would reduce the corporate rate to 20% from 35%, but the senate would do that after a one-year delay. that's aimed at satisfying deficit hawks who want to keep costs down, but delaying implementation will slow the impact on the economy. the house wants to cap mortgage interest reduction to a $500,000. the senate would permit up to $1 million. democrats say that's a huge problem in high tax states like new york and california and would put the public and majorities in jeopardy and the midterms, but g.o.p. leaders insist will be fine because they are delivering on a promise to the american people. >> senate republicans are telling house republicans there will be no compromise on state and local deductibility. it's a full repeal or bust.
senate republicans need the race by ending this popular middle-class deduction. speak out this is about improving people's lives and mag a positive difference and i fundamentally believe when we do this, make good on our word and promise and make people's lives better, we're going to be just fine politically. >> the goal is to get a final bill to the president's desk by christmas, but that is going to be hard with these policy differences and i was at a twist tonight about whether or not roy moore can get that alabama senate seat in republican hands. >> martha: ed, thank you very much. wall street obviously watching all of this very closely. the market has been up dramatically over 22% since president trump took office, but today, it backed off a bit. it's relative when you look at it, 23,000, not even at half a percentage. analysts are concerned about whether the republic and legislation can actually pass.
joining me now, gary cohen, chief of economic advisor to the president. thank you for joining me. first i want to ask about this story that is very much in the news that we lead with tonight and that is the question of roy moore. does the white house believe that roy moore should continue to run for that seat in alabama? >> martha, thank you for having me. i enjoy the opportunity to be with you this evening. we have not seen all the facts yet and the white house is waiting for the facts until we make a decision. >> martha: luther strange was president trump's candidate. is there any potential he may call for the voters in alabama to write him in and go back to when he pushed for initially? >> like i said, we are waiting to see the facts and once we see all the facts, the president will have an opinion on this situation. >> martha: all right. we'll get more on that as it comes out, as you say. and terms of what happened on the hill today, obviously the market backed off a bit because the market had a huge run,
largely on the notion that corporations are going to get a nice big tax cut, 20%. how do you feel about the fact that they might not get it for another year? >> i'm not sure that's why the markets been running. the market goes up and down. as you just pointed out, we had less than a half percent pullback in the start market today. i think the market is going up because american businesses have been doing better and better as the economy continues to grow. our job is to make sure of the economy does continue to grow and we help american businesses compete in a competitive global environment. our plan is to aim to make sure we lower the business tax rate and our u.s. businesses can compete in a very competitive environment. we are very excited about what happened today. as you mentioned, we did get the house plan out of the ways and means committee and the senate did introduce their plan today which will go into committee next week. >> martha: what you think -- what are you most concerned
about? >> i'm not concerned about any of the differences. we are going through regular order, normal process, regular committees in both the house and senate and this is exactly what we told people was going to happen. we are on the schedule we said we would be on. before relief for thanks giving next weekend, we hope and we're pretty optimistic that the house will have voted their bill out and the senate will be the committee process. a lot of people doubted we could be at that place by thanksgivin thanksgiving. >> martha: to the senate democrats, the president said you're going to like the senate bill demo better. that reminded me of the obamacare battle where he said to the senators, the house version is mean, but we are going to do something better in the senate. that's not going to roll over very well with her colleagues the house side. >> i think the president and the white house likes both versions. >> martha: why is he saying they're going to like the senate version better?
>> i think the president likes both versions because look at what they both do. they both attacked both of his goals. the president set out to primary objectives. number one, a middle income tax cut and number two lowering the tax rate and making it more competitive so we can deliver real wage growth to hardworking americans. both plans do that so the president is very supportive of both of these plans. >> martha: jeff flake saying he's not so sure about this deal in the senate, he doesn't like it a lot, there is likely to be more dissent from senate republicans as well. does the president feel he can't catch a break from his own party in the senate? >> he's very optimistic about this tax bill, it does everything he set out to do and everything he told the voters he was going to do with tax reform. >> martha: i get it, so he's happy with what it looks like. he thinks he can pass, will he get any senate democrats to pass it? does he think he needs that?
>> we would love to have senate democrats. we've been spinning a lot of times with senate democrats. i think you know that we met with a group of 12 democrats that senator mansion put together. >> martha: how many do you think you can get on board with this bill? >> we heard from many democrats there is a possibility we could get 70 or 80 votes on this. when we continue to meet with the democrats and we are happy o meet with them. >> martha: gary cohen, thank you very much for coming back tonight. still ahead this evening within the hour, president trump leaves china on the heels of a very high-stakes meeting he had with trade and north korea. he said some very interesting things while he was in china and we're going to talk about it with karl rove, but first, donna brazile is doing her best to take down an already splintered democratic party with some very fiery new allegations tonight. our panel coming up next to take
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>> martha: the democrats saying not cool by their tuesday night wins. donna brazile is upping the ante again as she takes on the clinton establishment. on tucker carlson's show last night, she admitted that she didn't give hillary clinton the big questions, but she gave them to bernie sanders and martin o'malley. she claims she wanted all the candidates to see the moderator's questions. that is not how it's supposed to work, folks. >> these were active managers. you never got a chance to see the things i gave to bernie or martin o'malley. what i try to do was ensure that we have these issues on the table and i made sure that our candidates, i didn't want them blindsided. that's what i'm here to do.
>> martha: trace gallagher joins us with the back story on this. >> donna brazile leaked that campaign question to the clinton campaign one day before cnn was airing a primary debate in flint, michigan, a city that was in the middle of a lead contaminated drinking water scandal. "one of the questions directed to hrc is a woman with a rash. her family has lead poisoning and she will ask what, if anything, hillary will do to help the people of flint." now listen to one of the questions. >> after my family, the city of flint, and the children of d.c. were poisoned by lead, will you make a personal promise to me right now that as president in your first 100 days in office, you will make it a requirement that all public water systems must remove all led water signs
in the entire united states? >> brazile now claims she wasn't trying to give her an edge, she was trying to warn her about the topics. brazile also now is claiming she never said the primary was rigged in hillary's favor, but here's what she wrote. "i had promised bernie sanders when i took the position of interim chair of the dnc that i would get to the bottom of whether or not hillary's team had rigged the party process in her favor so that only she could win the nomination." she goes on to write "bisect number seven, the day i was making this call to bernie, i had found my proof and what i had found broke my heart." hillary clinton was asked about the allegedly rigged primary on late night with seth myers. watch. >> i didn't know what she was referring to because as it's now come out, that just wasn't the case. >> as it's now come out, but we checked and the only thing that has now come out is donna brazile saying she didn't
mean to say the campaign was rigged. martha. >> martha: thank you very much. here with more on all of this, lisa boothe. isaac wright is a former executive director and taz lindsay garrow is a former national staffer. welcome to all of you. donna brazile said she also gave questions to bernie sanders, is that true? >> that's breaking news i'm sure to bernie sanders and martin o'malley. she says you don't know what it is i gave them, that was very vague. it's really unfortunate to see how the dnc democrats have crucified donna brazile for speaking the truth and she is clearly not trying to go and make amends and pretty much walk back some of her comments. she also set on tucker last night that she didn't mean to say to hell with them, she said she should have went high instead of going low and it's really unfortunate because this
is fairly her motivation because of the backlash from democrats and now hillary clinton pretending as if she's completely delusional and doesn't remember the actual agreement and it's really sad and unfortunate. >> martha: isaac, how can hillary clinton claimed that she doesn't remember the agreement you signed? >> i don't think she claimed she didn't remember the agreement, the clip you just played said she didn't recognize anything was rigged and i think that's the same thing donna brazile has said. i think that's the same thing national >> martha: donna brazile said it was -- tac and then pushing them aside was unethical and she did use the word "rigged." >> she said she didn't recall. they said they didn't recognize the part that donna was talking about. >> donna has said last night, on sunday repeatedly that she didn't believe the system was rigged, that senator clinton, secretary clinton had a
agreement to raise money for the national party, that's a pretty common practice. bernie sanders had one as well. he didn't raise one into the dnc, clinton did, so she had and put on how that money was spent. i'm sure if sanders had raised money to the dnc, he could have done that as well. donald trump had a signed agreement with the republican party. >> martha: go ahead tezlyn. >> i'm sorry, that was in agreement she had outside of raising the money that said if i give you the money, i will control the strategy, i will control how the staffing is done, i will control how everything takes place before she was even the nominee. what donna brazile said was that she found the cancer. i know how cancer can be deadly. they have yet to find a cure and the more we can back this up, change it can be anything different than what it is which is a cancer that is not only
corrupting those of the top, but corrupting those of the bottom. if we continue to act like everything is all unwell and say as long as we won in virginia, all is well, we continue to hurt people. this is wrong to walk this back is wrong. i understand donna brazile's position as the first african-american female to run a primary, i respect her. spill it lisa go ahead. >> whatever your definition, the reality is debbie wasserman schultz resigned on the eve of this convention over the even tl that surfaced. debbie wasserman schultz was trying to help the clinton campaign over bernie sanders. whatever your definition of rigged is, the fact is the former dnc chairwoman stepped aside over this very issue and with regards to the questions that were leaked, donna brazile also had to step aside and
resigned from cnn for leaking those emails to hillary clinton, so those of two things are fact. for the democratic party right now, the 2016 election was a really embarrassing chapter for them so this is clearly reopening that and it's also reopening the very deep rift in the democratic party as you just saw with the two democrats on the panel going at it over this very issue. >> martha: we want to play a moment from the democratic convention. i was standing on the floor the time, so many bernie supporters in that room were so upset and clearly the look on their face, let's play this, suggested they felt like the rug had been pulled out from under them in an unfair way. watch this. >> bernie, -- >> martha: the question for you, what needs to be done if there is so much bad blood right now over this? how do you convince the bernie
supporters that there is going to be a more fair proper process in the future? >> the process worked, we had an election, the people chose a candidate and that was our nominee, she won the election by 3 million votes, but unfortunately lost the white house to the electoral college. i think there's a unity reform committee right now it's working on some ideas like superdelegates and changing up the system to modernize and an updated and we are going to see the results of that in january and i hope everybody will come together. when democrats work together and we get our message out, we won. that's what happened tuesday night. >> i hope the dnc can go to a 12-step program because clearly we're dealing with the disease of alcoholism or drugs or something. let's start by apologizing to those you have hurt in the bottom line is the more we keep ignoring this and acting like this didn't happen, that people were not hurt, the worse it's going to be. i'm here to say nobody's going
to get over this and move on. i suggest people move forward, clean it out, reform it. >> martha: thank you very much, great to have all of you with us here tonight. still had tonight, the dramatic new steps that airports are taking to fix the problems that could have led, at least contributed to this. tony shaver and colonel wallace are here to talk about that. president trump wraps up the very high-stakes time he spent in china. what deal was struck with president she? karl rove weighs in with his take next. >> up my feeling toward you is an incredibly warm one as we said, we have great chemistry and i think you're going to do tremendous things for both china and the united states.
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>> martha: tonight, president trump is about to leave china as he heads to vietnam, that's the fourth leg of this very high-stakes asia trip that he has been on. the threat of course of north korea looming large over the discussions you see there on your screen, but the president also at one point opted for some nuance language, should we say in terms of trade that we've seen in the past. >> both the united states and china will have a more prosperous future if we can achieve a level, economic playing field. right now, unfortunately, it is a very one-sided, and unfair one, but, but, i don't blame china. [laughter] [applause] after all, who can blame a country for being able to take advantage of another country for
the benefit of its citizens? i give china great credit. [laughter] >> martha: some critics watched that and they jumped all over the president saying he had completely changed his tune. watch this. >> clearly he is trying to make himself very popular. >> almost head snapping and how president dominic dumb academic >> martha: karl rove, former senior advisor and a fox news contributor. good to see you. he got skewered by some for softening his tone on china, did he? >> not really, but i do think it was the wrong tone. i think it would have been better being tough on them. the president saying it's our fault, there's a little bit of obama in there. is not your fault, it's our fault. we've been weak, my predecessors have been weak.
it would have been better if he said what he said during the campaign which is "you, china, are not living up to the international standards that you have agreed to. you're engaging in unfair trading practices." >> martha: he did say that. he said it's been one-sided and unfair. >> he also said it's not your fault. it is their fault because they have been engaged. >> martha: i didn't interpret it that way the way he meant it is on for america first, it's your country, so your four china first, but we need to think of a way that works for both of us. >> i disagree respectfully, because i think president trump would say i'm seeking unfair advantage with other countries. he's simply saying i want to be treated fairly. if we treat you fairly, you have to treat us fairly and you're not treating us fairly. here's the big thing, let's not get stuck up in the language. these things are events, but they're part of a bigger and
broader process. they announced today some trade deals and even the administration admits these deals are no substitute for change and fundamental policy. this was an attempt to further the dialogue about policy changes if the chinese to stop stealing our intellectual property, get them to lower the sale of goods and services inside the country and so forth. this was an event, a visit, that would allow the administration to take another opportunity to advance, but we won't see the outcomes for days, if not weeks. >> martha: i think you're absolutely right about that. this trip is laying groundwork, right question you try to lay the groundwork for future discussions. as you said, they got $250 billion in trade and technology, aviation, energy, but obviously, the big issue here is north korea. does he come home from that trip, having made any progress in his private discussions with president she?
>> we won't know for some period of time. i think he did his cause a great deal of good by that speech that he gave in the soul because it was strong, forceful, and clear. it's a very interesting situation here. the administration got some really good movement by getting the chinese circle bank to withdraw bank accounts or people doing business and north korea, but that happened before the party congress in which xi basically consolidated his powe power. as a result, the new chapter in relationship with china, does he think he needs to do two things, one is does he think he needs to follow through on his commitment they made in the international agreements that have been made through the united nations sanctions on tightening the screws and north korea and also, are there other steps that he is willing to take to remove the
idea of a north korea having nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles? the united states has given an important commitment to the chinese which is what we are not in favor of eight united korean peninsula under a democratic regime like we have in the sout. we accept that china wants to have a communist buffer state on its border, but the question is how much more are we going to get from the chinese and again, this was an event, is a process, we have to watch what comes out of the process. >> martha: we will. karl rove, thank you so much peer thanks for being here. >> thank you, martha. >> martha: coming up next. >> how did this happen question right out of the air force not report this criminal history to the database? >> martha: that question is haunting the families of the 26 victims of sunday's church massacre in texas. tony schaefer and michael walt
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texas church massacre. one of the victims was the unborn child. this, as the pastor of the church now says his small place of worship is "just too painful a place now." he hopes to demolish it and build a memorial garden there and rebuild elsewhere. these heartbreaking developments as just a short time ago, the air force addressed its failure to report information that could have prevented this gunman from ever walking into the gun store and purchasing his weapon. >> how did this happen? how did the air force not report this shooter's criminal history the database? >> that's what the review will find out. our responsibility is to look at what happened here and why.
>> martha: there is that. here now, tony shaver, and lieutenant colonel michael waltz's i'm a former green beret commander and fox news contributor. welcome. this is a tough side of this story. this is a man who pointed a loaded weapon and his wife, throttled her and the baby, a little boy, and he admitted the force with which he came at that child could have killed him. this is a man who the military justice system gave one year in confinement, then they released him and in error, didn't let the ncis know that he was out there and that he definitely should not be someone who should be permitted to have a gun. tony? >> this is not a single point failure. yes the air force is in the hot seat, but this man showed tendencies long before the conviction. we need to see a composite picture of these folks and
martha, i argue, we don't need new gun laws, we simply have to have better information sharing that commiserate's with the technology. i work with something called a high intensity drug trafficking area. they're using amazing software called tetra which collects data in real-time from databases. i would argue that it's terrible, but -- >> martha: the point is that there was a checkpoint that should have happened. put up the numbers we have at the pentagon. this is a pentagon inspector general report that says the navy 94% of the time, the army 70% of the time. this begs the question, are they covering for their own? >> i think it's a lack of oversight. i'm sorry, go ahead. >> i was going to say, to add to
your point, tony, these databases are only as good as what you put into them. there's so many of them, right? i'm glad to see secretary mattis ordering a broader dod investigation because we are seeing systemic problems right here. we saw the same thing similarly where the coast guard in the case of bowe bergdahl rejected him for psychological problems, but that wasn't communicative with the army who then accepted him. tony, i'm sure you know as well, when you're discharged from the military and your entire career of medical issues from combat overseas, that database doesn't talk to the veterans affairs database. i think it's a broader systemic problem. i doubt this is just a one off on this particular airman. secretary mattis, the secretary of the air force and the entire system need to get to the bottom of it because there is an entire separate military judicial system we have
criminals, prisons, and if as not being communicated to the fbi and these guys are kicked out of the military and then are free to buy assault rifles, that's a huge problem. >> martha: will have great respect for our military and that goes without saying, i hop hope. i'm saying because i know i'm being a bit critical here, but i don't think it's any comfort. >> these families deserve answers. >> martha: they absolutely do. >> michael, i agree with you on this. >> martha: there was a piece this morning in "usa today" where the air forces former top prosecutor say too often domestic abuse cases get to light sentences and they should not be handled in the military. they should be handled to the federal agencies and the court systems. >> i disagree. the military has to be held accountable. those men under those commanders have to be held accountable based on the fact that as you point out, martha, they do
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wouldn't see a trade war. the markets started to come back after that. there were technical factors at play. people in support levels, held up meaning that at a certain level in a market, whether it's the dow jones industrial average, maybe the nasdaq or the southbound 500, which all ended up in the green today. there's a test. are the buyers going to be there. the answer today was buyers we. the one thing that we hear from the wall street trading desk, one of the things we're hearing, some on wall street don't believe that president trump won't follow-through with the protectionist measures and at this point, that's all it is, talk. we'll take a look at the tariffs threatened by the united states and the retaliation that came swiftly from china last night. the u.s. list is longer. the u.s. list has more than 1,300 products on it. on the chinese list, it's
the lost cost goods. i welcome it. >> so you think it's a good development. allen, all i know is this started targeting steel and aluminum. now it's about 1,000 different items, almost every agricultural item you can shake a stick at. does that worry you as a trader? >> we're seeing a tit for tat. this is nothing but talk right now. just a proposal. the market doesn't believe it's going to be as big a deal as it looked like this morning. you talked about technical levels. bounced off of lows. we had higher lows today than monday. so this is a healthy technical turn around and a big turn around. obviously we have to build on it. we have different economies. we're a service economy. they're not. they're a industrial economy. we're not going back to the 50s or 1930s and start making goods like we did on that scale. we're a different type of economy. so you can't compare them
>> china is not a free market. we have a huge trade deficit with them at the same time. so we're giving them our money and they're buying our debt. that doesn't make sense. so the markets are going to be very concerned about it. again, i don't really call it a trade war. the tariffs have been in china for many years. their goods have been coming here with no tax or no tariff on it. >> neil: no, you're right. the chinese -- i understand that. many have argumented is this the way to deal with that. i'm not here to debate that. i am noticing this the number of items affected. when you think about this started out with aluminum and steel to a list with more than 2,000 items. for example, i had no idea, maybe you did, that in beef alone, there's fresh and cold boneless beef. frozen beef with bones, frozen
is this will never come to pass. larry kudlow and others have said it will never come to pass. it will never see it. no need to fear it. we keep adding on to it here. i know we've got this window at times, some months here where these things would kick in. i know the deadlines in washington and apply it. we always push up against them. and then boom. >> right. as you mentioned, this is a process. the inese have not set a specific day. the u.s.'s deadline is in a couple months. we have a good time frame to negotiate. in the background, we got a labor report. adp is very strong. the best in four years. beads very well for this nonfarm payroll -- >> neil: i agree with you. the underpinnings are very sound. >> earnings start in two weeks. >> neil: so will that offset
what we're getting here? alan? >> yeah. we can focus on fundamentals and he how corporate america is doing. that starts in two weeks. let's look at the banks. these guys are doing well and that will get us become on focus and realize what the game is here. it's a game we don't like to play, chicken but some people look at the end result as worth it to some. >> neil: thank you all very much. those of you join tuning in and say wait a minute. i looked at the markets earlier and watching cavuto on fox business network. the markets were tanking. down hundreds of points, over 500 points and an idea that we were going into an extended trade war. then a reversal of 730 points. what happened? what is the more accurate sentiment in gray reburn, what do you think?
which is real to you? >> neil, good to be on with you again. on the trade issue, i agree with a lot of the comments that you just got. the market -- the stock market we acted with throw the baby out with the bath water based on the chinese tariffs. the reality is, nothing has been put in place. what you're looking at is leverage. trump and his administration are looking at negotiating. that doesn't mean they can't happen and if they do, the problem is areas like soy beans and agriculture where those products are not that distinguishable from products from other countries. like you mentioned soy beans. we probably exported $100 billion in soy beans last year. $20 billion went to china.
argentina export more than we do. i doubt there's a difference in the soy bean. >> neil: let me ask you this. free market fear, sure. there's a lot of purists that say, you know, we certainly understand the president's grievance with china. we understand even what is going on with his annoyance at amazon. that might be more politically motivated. but there's an eagerness to take on the chinese, to take on the amazon and their business practices, albeit a different case there. but i do know republicans an conservatives in general when john kennedy tried to put that stunt with the steel industry or barack obama went after the investment banking industry, that was an uprow.
crickets now. >> yes. our trade gap is five to one. having tariffs won't shrink the gap. the issue here is intellectual property. >> neil: that's the battle royale. so much breaking news here. we're investigating for other developments that could be coming on this. larry kudlow on this ongoing trade war that is escalating but so tate by late in the day buying. more after this. ♪ i thought i was managing my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis. but i realized something was missing... me. the thought of my symptoms returning was keeping me from being there for the people and things i love most. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira can help get, and keep,uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough. and it helps people achieve control that lasts so you could experience few or no symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis.
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it doesn't matter. i came from lebanon to keep my community safe, to keep my city safe. i'm doing just that. but neil, thas escondido. the last 12 years, we've been cooperating with ice. we have deported more than 2,000 criminals from our community. that resulted in reducing crime by 33% since 2010. our cooperation with ice has focused on illegal criminals, this is not about illegal immigration. it's about criminals. >> neil: the president wants to bring troops, guards to the border. ho you feel about that? >> i feel our president and the federal government should do anything and everything to keep our nation safe. you know, the sanctuary city is a threat not only to our city and sanctuary state is not only
a threat to california, it's a threat to the entire nation. criminals historically have moved from one state to another, from one city to another. this is unacceptable, this is immoral, neil. we're not talking about illegal immigration. we're talking about harboring, protecting, catching and releasing illegal criminals. this is not the way -- that's not the america i immigrated to 32 years ago. >> neil: mayor, when i learn to reports coming out of your beautiful state, i get whiplash. i hear from the oakland mayer, jerry brown that they're trying to protect illegals. does that bother you when you hear this argument morphed into protecting immigrants when in fact they are really shielding lillega immigrants? >> absolutely. it's offensive. it's an offensive act.
here's the story of california, the golden state. the golden state now is the last in quality of life, the highest taxed state, a sanctuary state and the debt is closing in to $1 trillion. california is 1% of the nation's population but it has 30% of the welfare, 25% of the homeless in the nation are here in california. so it's really -- and the highest poverty rate as well. is governor brown should focus on economic development and keeping that state safe. this is just unbelievable when he -- they care more about illegal immigrants than caring about their own constituents. the democrats and everybody else. i think they're losing that support. i think they're vulnerable now. there's a push back not only from us but from an average citizen. it's a nonpartisan issue and i think you'll see that a lot more
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>> it's not. that information that facebook released today touched on a lot of issues that congress is in. there's opt out features and things built in that allows this for help for those with a nefarious intend could do so. that's the kind of thing that our legislatures are going to focus on frankly. how can we prevent this from happening again. how can this not be the norm so the loop holes that people can squeeze through won't happen again? this is merely the beginning. note the senate judiciary community has issued invitations to ceos of google andpple. there's a lot of questions that the plito. >> neil: this started with mark zuckerberg saying there's some regulation in order here. be careful what you wish for. don't you think it's possible
that facebook will be looking at that but the entire industry? >> absolutely. again, it matters how we classify facebook. that's what inviting regulation. do we consider ate media company? regulation would be obvious. if it more of a newspaper? people get their news from it. only regulation in some regards but that would be more of a free speech forum. if you want to hold them liable, that goes back to regulation. what is difficult here, this is a novel area and up till now, the regulation has not been able to cover it. frankly with consumer data privacy so crucial and the front lines of all of our interests, it behooves everyone to classify it fast and to establish some type of regulation so this is prevented in the future. as congress said, there's a lot of questions in the consumer
privacy protection field that we need answers to. >> neil: thanks, emily. good seeing you. >> thank you. >> neil: larry no sooner in as the national economic adviser director, he's slap in the middle of a trade war. he's not worried. should you be? we'll ask him next.
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♪ >> shepard: all right. i don't think this was the start that larry kudlow expected, being swept to the middle of a trade war. the president isn't calling ate trade war. i don't know whether larry kudlow is. i'm happy to have him with us. larry, welcome. congratulations, by the way. >> thanks, neil. i appreciate it. >> neil: sounds like a trade war to me. what do you think? >> no, i don't think it's a trade war. i think there's going to be intense negotiations on both sides. when you look at this whole picture, blame china. don't blame president trump. trump is the solution. for all these years -- >> neil: you think this is a solution, larry? >> i think for all these years, china has had unfair and illegal trading practices, neil. the rest of the world knows that. so president trump is out there
firing shot as you the bow saying we mean business. he has broad support. this doesn't have to turn into a trade war. >> neil: why does it feel like it has? it started with a couple items. we're looking at aluminum and steel. maybe half a dozen. now between the two countries, it's over 2,000 items and could grow more. that sounds like a war. >> i don't want to take the worst case. as i've said, each side has a position. the psident is a masr gotiator, right? art of the deal. he's going by feel here. i think he's on the right track. by the way, if you lean in to this, you're going to go through a process. the process will last awhile. the other side of that rainbow is a pot of gold. inside the pot of gold is growth. you open up markets, open up investments. stop intellectual property.
fix that stuff, both sides will benefit for growth. the rest of the world will benefit -- >> neil: i hope you are to avoid that kind of thing. but this doesn't sounds like the same hands off larry kudlow that i respected and admired all these decades. not long ago, you said early march, we're hanging by a toe natural on nafta. if we have to walk out of nafta, this steel thing turned from a a minor irrant to a major calamity for our economy and our stock market. make no doubt about that. i mentioned that because it sounds like the guy that you replaced worried about that same thing, gary cohn. >> look, i didn't agree with the blanket tariffs. it's improved with the carve
out. i've been an opponent of china. they're closing markets and investments. they're not playing by the rules of the game. so what are we supposed to do? we have to react. president trump is doing what no president in decades has done. i think he has powerful support around the globe. >> neil: maybe they didn't do it for a reason. they can spread. you say this isn't a blanket tariff. it's grown to include between our two countries over 2,000 items. i worry, isn't that blanket enough for you? isn't that suffocating enough? >> a blanket tariff is a global tariff. we don't have that. the negotiations on nafta are going rather well. >> neil: what does that mean? what are you saying? >> that's about as much as i can say. a lot going on -- >> neil: you want to whisper in
my area? >> later. that's the correction i hoped it would go. coming back to china, you just can't allow them to break all these trading rules. you can't. >> neil: is our response going to be -- i see where you're going from. i appreciate the president. because they do cheat. but are we reayolving anything? >> i think we're going to come to agreements. i personally -- i believe the chinese will back down and play ball. the president has a good relationship with xi. there's a lot going on here. nobody likes it but maybe that's what it takes. president trump -- i want to add this. he is a free trader. he will tell you that. >> neil: there's no way he's a free trader. >> i beg your pardon. the path to free trade has to
center on fixing these unfair and illegal trade practices. >> neil: but free trade isn't slapping tariffs on your own goods to make sure that -- >> that's your point of view. i appreciate it. we've known each other a long time. we don't know how this is going to end. it may have -- >> neil: i understand what you're saying. i appreciate your concern about this and the president. he's right to say this system is not fair or right. but i'm wonder if we're swinging the pendulum the other way and seeing the effects on the folks that have to pay the bills, consumers. governments don't pay this. they do. in some of these futures markets, we've seen soy bean prices coming down, pork prices coming down. this idea that all of a sudden folks in key areas that the president won and the midwest are taking it on the chin. what do you tell them? >> think a lot of those fix are
sick and tired of unfair trade practices. the onus is not on president trump. the onus is on china. we're trying to unwind decades of poor trading policies. you're too quick to blame president trump. >> neil: i understand. i tell you the response is -- but tell that the farmer seeing the value of something that he farm goes down 4 to 5% in one trading day. >> i understand that. hopefully it will end and not come to fruition. you go into the heartland, you to the northern states, what we used to call the rust belt, those folks would love to have greater export markets and china is denying that. they would like market openings. they would like lower barriers. you'll get better trade numbers, more growth and so forth. so this is a tricky thing.
this covers a lot of ground. the president has taken this initiative. you ought to give it some time, neil. don't -- >> neil: so you think in a couple months before this would take effect that you can have a deal scored by then? is the goal here as the president said, to shave $100 bill off of our trade gap? he said it's around a half a trillion. others say 350 to 400. is that to prove that the chinese are making an effort to make it right? >> i think the goal is to open markets and lower barriers and stop poaching intellectual property rights and technologies from american companies. that's what the goal is. if weain those and i believe we will, then these trade balance numbers will improve enormously. that will be a plus for all sides. that's how i think this is going to work. >> neil: i now you just started working for this president.
how would other presidents if they see some successful results from this, that other respects try the same here and the notion that government shouldn't get involved in business and leave you espoused for decades -- >> i'm not sure i understand that. where are you going with this, neil. >> neil: i saying everybody is a protectionist. >> every free trader believes that china must play by the rules. i don't know where you're going on this. no american -- >> neil: this isn't about china, larry. going after south korea. the mexicans and the canadians. looking at nafta. >> we just made a deal with south korea. you should be reporting that. it's a good deal. >> we did record that deal. >> and we're involved in a deal with nafta. you should be reporting that. >> neil: i did and i do. and i'm asking you is this going
to be the way these things are settled? that we're going to threaten action, we hope to see a reaction that won't get threats back but tariffs are on the table in the future. >> may be part of the negotiating package. you know, neil, go back several decades. republican and democratic presidents, they talked a lot about this unfair trading, they whined a lot about it and nothing was done. president trump is doing somethin >> neil: what do you think of what the president is doing on amazon? >> i think he's wants a level playing field with respect to taxing. that's what i think. >> neil: you don't think this is about the owner jeff bezos and "the washington post"? >> i can't speak about that. i no with respect to the enter nell retailing, which will go on for a long time -- actually, amazon is building -- let's have a level playing field for the land base and for the internet. that's what he wants. the supreme court decision is
probably going to come down on that side. this whole business will be fixed. >> neil: so when you talk about a level playing field, when walmart was capturing nation's attention and forcing mom and pop business, i don't remember you bemoaning that. amazon is being chargele by doing the same thing by this president. what do you think? >> what i think is let innovation and entrepreneurship work. i remember those charges against walmart. people figure it out that walmart was actually a big job creator. walmart was bringing in better quality goods. walmart's prices were lower. walmart created a tax cut effect by dropping its prices for middle and lower middle income people. so i think that worked. if you want to redo walmart, i don't know why. walmart is going internet. you'll have both. it's going to be a diverse
economy. you can't repeal the economy and the entrepreneurs. you can put pressure on our chinese friends to change their trading practices. give mr. trump some credit, please. >> neil: thanks, larry. congratulations. more after this. trying something new can be exciting. empowering. downright exhilarating. see for yourself why chevrolet is the most awarded and fastest growing brand, the last four years overall. switch into a new chevy now. get 20% below msrp on all cruze and malibu lt models. that's over fifty four hundred dollars on this chevy malibu. find new roads at your local chevy dealer.
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another regular session. finally last week, i signed a bill to give the teacher as 15 to 18% pay raise based upon their length of service and to boost education funding by 19% in our state. the teachers went on strike monday. so there's been some questions about why are they at the capitol? they got their pay raise. they're talking about education with their elected officials. but education is a priority in the state of oklahoma. the legislature proves that bypassing the largest pay increase ever in the history of oklahoma for teachers. we appreciate them coming to us, welcome them but it's important to get back in the classroom and teach our children. >> neil: what is happening to the kids in the interim? >> they're out of school. it's not every district at the capitol protesting. but there's about a third of them in the state of oklahoma. a lot of children are out of school. some of the parents have brought
their children to the capitol. some of the teachers have brought their own children to the capitol. it's a great learning experience or political movements, social sciences to come up and see the action being taken. but is been a busy week and an active week and a lot of people at the capitol. >> neil: thanks, governor. very busy news day. keeping track of that. just getting bigger and bigger. thanks very much. >> you're welcome. >> neil: i'm old enough to remember when it happened when martin luther king was gunned down 50 years ago tonight. we know how things have changed and how in some cases they have not. the read on his mission a half a century later. he's playing with us. no, he's trying to tell us something.
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>> neil: all right. this is the hotel in memphis, tennessee. the sight of the assassination of martin luther king 50 years ago. we have charles payne on what changed since then and maybe not. charles, your thoughts? >> a lot has changed. just came from having a black president, a two-term black president that was propelled by a position by a surprising win in iowa where he wasn't supposed to win. that is something that i don't think ten years ago we thought could have happened let alone 50 years ago. this is martin luther king talked the night before, the mountaintop speech. he talked about the buying power
of black americans. it's $1.2 trillion. 600% more. we've made serious strides. we have a ways to go but we can celebrated where we have come and one of the reasons is because of martin luther king. >> neil: we talked about the changes, jahmile when we talk about unemployment rates for african americans that have declined. i'm wondering economically that is markedly different than it was 50 years ago today. >> well, i agree with charles, neil 've come so far, made significant probl on an economic justice standpoint and certainly civil rights. but one of the things we can't allow to have happen is for martin luther king's message to be watered down. he was in memphis where he was shot because he was there for low wage, you know, underpaid
workers. his message around economic justice has gotten watered down to create crafty super bowl messages. we have to get back to that message. >> neil: who is that martin luther king figure today, jehmu? we talked about president obama and getting reelected. who would that like figure be now? >> the thing is, we don't need another one figure. i think what is so promising, when you look at the young people that are leading, whether it's black lives matter or the young parkland survivors, that martin luther king was 26 in the but boycotts. john lewis was 23. the little rock 9 were 9 and 15 and 16 years old. what is so excited, the collaborative leadership that we've seen from this next generation. it doesn't have to be one
person. >> neil: fair enough point. >> it's a coalition. >> neil: charles, is it your sense that capitolism -- this has come up a lot -- has failed black americans. what do you say to that? >> i'd say absolutely not. but we're behind the curve. so you know, we don't have fortunes to pass on, which is always amazing me when blacks don't want to vote or vote against estate tax. we shouldn't have them. if a black person in a family become as multimillionaire, they will be the first in the history of the family and we would love to see them passhat on. but to your leadership questions to jehmu, tomorrow morning every black person that gets up and looks in the mirror is looking at the leader right there. begins with the person, the individual and we're inspired by those around us from martin luther king jr. to my mother and even my granddaughter inspires me. >> neil: thanks, guys. sorry we truncated time here.
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investigation. >> let me read between -- >> sure. >> i want to read the tweet. the words the president used in the statement on twitter that he released earlier this morning. this is a terrible situation. and attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country any further. bob mueller is totally conflicted and his 17 angry democrats that are doing his dirty work are a disgrace to usa. i just want to be specific what the president has said because, dana, this is the most bombastic statement he's made yet on this entire russia probe. and it comes as mueller is now engaged in the first trial that's actually started yesterday. >> no question. and, look, when -- and this goes to the heart of part of the mueller investigation. when a boss, or when the president, says -- makes a suggestion to a subordinate, is it really a suggestion?
like david chalian was saying earlier, when your boss or my boss suggests something to us, is it really just a suggestion, or is it, please do this. and it's not different when you're looking at this issue and when you're talking about these players. that's why giuliani came out in a very carefully worded statement that he gave to me to make clear that this is not what the president's intention is. the question is not answered, which we are all asking, is why the president is doing this in the first place. this tweet, a series of other tweets this morning sure looks like somebody who was very preoccupied with this and very concerned about something maybe we don't know about. yet. >> let's go to jeff zeleny at the white house. standing by for sarah sanders. her press briefing was to begin at 1:00. now delayed until at least 1:15. what is motivating, driving the president right now to issue these kinds of very, very blunt,
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as long as he's been angry at him. but he's never fired him. it's the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein who is in charge of this investigation. so the president didn't necessarily say that he was going to ask rod rosenstein to have mueller end the investigation. so it does seem as though he was blowing off some steam trying to discredit this investigation. but, wolf, it will be interesting to see if the press secretary sarah sanders reflects the same explanation or definition or defense that rudy giuliani was giving to dana earlier. clearly this is as far as the president has gone. clearly this is a different moment in this investigation. and the president, if you look at the tweets from the weekend on when he was directly going after bob mueller, directly going after this investigation, it does seem he's more agitated by it. perhaps he does know more than we know in this investigation. we'll see what the white house has to say in just a few minutes, wolf. >> we certainly will. jeff and dana, stand by. gloria borger and our panel are here as well.
the allegation immediately after the president tweeted these words about jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt was that potentially he's obstructing justice. >> you know, that has been a question that we've all looked into. whether the president's tweets are being looked into by the special counsel as potentially obstructing justice. but i want to remind everyone because we've all reported -- cnn has reported that trump personally pressured sessions on multiple occasions to recuse himself from this investigation. he has been angry about sessions recusing himself for months. but this takes this whole thing to a different level. and once again, we find ourselves parsing the president's words. rudy giuliani's statement to dana is he said should, not must. last week, we were talking about would versus would not. they are trying -- i mean, they are the shovel brigade here, trying to clean up this mess
that the president is making. tweeting about bob mueller and his attorneys, i guarantee you, jay sekulow being one of them, are probably pulling their hair out about this because it's the last thing they want to hear from the president, particularly when they're engaged or sort of engaged with the special counsel about trying to figure out whether the president testifies or not. >> this is a moment right now, a very critical moment, because on top of all of this, the president is now weighing in. there's a federal trial under way in alexandria, virginia, just outside washington, d.c. mueller and his team are going after paul manafort, the man who was the president's campaign chairman. all of a sudden, the president is weighing in on paul manafort as this trial is just beginning. it's day two. looking back on history, he tweets, who was heated worse. alfons capone, legendary mob boss, or paul manafort, political operative and
reagan/dole darling now serving solitary confinement although convicted of nothing. where is the russian collusion? i don't remember a time when a sitting president of the united states has gotten involved in discussing an ongoing federal trial. >> except maybe nixon, right? if you think about it. on principle, and precedent and the norms of the office, the president should not be commenting publicly on any of this because it might come across as undue influence from the president, whether you're talking about the manafort trial, an ongoing trial, or the mueller investigation where the president and his allies still are potential targets of that trial. they have an interest, skin in the game. again, principle and the norms of the office, if they mattered in this. we've seen those shredded and passed over many times before. on the language, it's interesting that giuliani is trying to establish some sort of code for trump's language when he issues these public orders because there's really been no consistency there. the president has launched
unitary executive that says he can hire and fire anyone he wants but that doesn't mean he can do anything in his constitutional role. and what this president continues to struggle with, or perhaps just disregard is his -- the difference between his personal opinions and his weighing in as a private citizen and things he might not like versus he actually is in a constitutional role. >> because rudy giuliani in the statement that he released and dana bash reported said the president was expressing his opinion on his favorite me medium -- twitter -- for asserting his first amendment right of free speech. everything the president says as a sitting president, whether it's on twitter or official white house statement or news conference, that is historic. that's a presidential statement. >> that's right. he is the president, and words matter. this isn't something new to him. if you think about his days as ceo. the head of a company, when he said things, people acted. you can't just say now he's justice blowing off steam and letting us know his opinion. the issue here is that we cannot get numb to this.
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a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! very dramatic day in washington. we're standing by for the press briefing. sarah sanders expected momentarily to walk in and start answering reporters' questions. we'll, of course, have coverage of that. at the same time, there's other related news that we're following. a political consultant and an fbi agent have now taken the stand on day two of paul manafort's trial. in opening statements the prosecution portrayed manafort as living an extravagant lifestyle fueled by secret income from lobbying in ukraine. but the defense says it was manafort's former deputy rick gates who lied and stole money. let's go to our crime and
justice reporter shimon prokupecz. he's joining us in washington. rick gates, he had been expected to testify for the prosecution. now there seems to be some questions about that. what can you tell us? >> certainly, wolf, there has been certainly by the defense team. and rick gates is on the witness list for the prosecution. but nothing holds them to that. doesn't mean prosecutors have to call them. what happened just about an hour ago in court, during testimony by this fbi agent who was talking about documents and other information that he recovered from manafort's home during a search warrant execution, the prosecutor was asking him questions about some of those documents and rick gates came up and a judge trying to move things along says, well, why are you essentially asking this agent about this. we're going to have rick gates here. and at that point the prosecutor said, well, we may or may not call rick gates. obviously the idea that the prosecution would not call rick gates is somewhat newsworthy.
the defense has made a big deal out of it in their opening statement saying that pinning everything on rick gates. so it would leave an interesting strategy here for the defense. a position here for the defense as to whether or not they're going to go ahead and call rick gates, if the prosecution does not. >> maybe the prosecution thinks they don't need to call rick gates. he's already admitted lying to federal authorities. he's plead guilty. maybe they think they have enough evidence, documents, other evidence, they don't need to call him. >> that's exactly right. based on some of the reporting we've done, we were kind of surprised that rick gates would be on the witness list. we've been all along told that when rick gates was working on his cooperation agreement with the special counsel, they said to him they didn't really need him on the manafort stuff. when you look through now the second day of this trial, all the documents that have been recovered and other information, it would seem that rick gates would just be kind of a bonus to
them and perhaps given the strategy here by the defense, prosecutors are now saying, well, why do we need to call them? it could only dirty our case up and, therefore, no need for us to call them. just make our case and prove our case through other witnesses and through a lot of the documents they have now recovered and are using in this trial. that's a good point, wolf. >> the defense would have to decide if they call them as a witness? a hostile witness? those are to be determined. shimon, thank you. gloria, the president tweeted this morning on this paul manafort case, which is pretty unusual at the start of a federal case. president tweet again. this is a different tweet from earlier. paul manafort worked for ronald reagan, bob dole and many other prominent respect ed people. these have nothing to do with collusion. a hoax. it's pretty unusual. trial starts and he's weighing in on paul manafort. >> he is. and what's odd about this, to be
honest is that donald trump and paul manafort were never close. paul manafort was brought in to the campaign by a friend of donald trump's who recommended, hey, this guy knows how to count delegates. that's when we saw there was going to be a delegate fight at the convention which there turned out not to be because donald trump went over the finish line after indiana. so they actually didn't need him. but then they liked him and they promoted him to run the campaign effecti effectively. that's when they ousted corey lewandowski. so he is somebody who is not personally close to trump. but i feel that trump feels personally threatened by manafort because if there is a conviction here, what this does is it gives the mueller investigation credibility. and so he's been calling it a witch hunt and a hoax. you have all the indictments of the russians which shows that it's not a witch hunt and a hoax but if manafort were to get
convicted, that does give mueller some wind at his back. it's very, very important to him. and i think trump understands that. >> it's important to remember, jim, and you've done a lot of reporting on this that manafort was working for pro-russian, pro-putin, pro-kremlin rich guys in ukraine, including viktor yanukovych who was a pro-putin leader of ukraine. and that sort of fits in to this investigation. >> his client -- manafort's client who paid him tens of millions of dollars was not a good guy. he was putin's guy in the ukraine. he was corrupt. accused of overseeing the shooting of civilian protesters during the maidon protests. he jailed his political opponent there, tibishenko. and manafort tried to build support in the west for the jailing of his political opponent. this is the thing. if you are thinking about the kind of work he was doing there. yes, it was prior to his time with trump. but it was significant work for someone with russian ties who
was not a boy scout, right? and to be fair, he was not the only one working for him. tony podesta also did some work for -- >> the brother of john podesta who was the hillary clinton campaign chairman. >> exactly. but the level and duration and amount of work manafort did for him was important and relevant and long running. the other point i would make is this. it's a bit rich for trump and his allies to claim that paul manafort was in effect some sort of short-term coffee boy. they were a key three months to get the delegates at the convention, through the convention. and he was the head of the campaign. not a low-level position but time and position doesn't mean much here because they will -- with michael cohen, for instance, who worked for the president for more than a decade, in a very intimate role, they're now claiming they always knew he was a liar. not a lot of -- there are some thin arguments being made about their relative connection and
importance to this president. >> and also in the trump tower meeting with don junior. >> yes. >> and that may be something that troubles the president. >> everybody hold their breath. a lot more to discuss. we're waiting for the briefing to begin any moment now. there you see live pictures. the reporters, they're all in their seats already. we're waiting for sarah sanders to show up. also, the president doing an interview in which he says a government shutdown over his border wall with mexico is a great campaign issue. he also says there's a lot of evil people here in washington. get ready. we'll discuss. ♪ it's so hard to believe ♪ but it's all coming back me. ♪ baby, baby, baby. all you can eat is back, baby. applebee's.
as sarah sanders walks over to the microphone. a ton of questions reporters have for her today. we'll see how far she's willing to go, how many questions she's willing to answer. stand by for live coverage. all this happening as the president, gloria, has just given an interview to rush limbaugh, a radio interview, in which he doubled down on his decision that, unless there's a border wall with mexico and other immigration issues, he's willing to shut down the federal government. he says, a lot of good people ask me, could we do it after the election? they've been good to me? i think it's a great campaign issue. i think it would be great before. but i don't want to disappoint a lot of great people. so he's insisting, he's ready to shut down the government at the end of september when the fiscal year ends. >> sounds like he's listening to them. >> mitch mcconnell, paul ryan -- >> people that want to keep their majorities in the congress. what i'm sure mitch mcconnell and paul ryan are saying to him
is, are you kidding me? we have people in the house, for example, in suburban republican districts that are in danger of losing their seat and we want to try and keep those seats. and not only are women going to come out and vote but this woubld a real problem. government shutdowns are generally not popular when people understand what it means to them. and so they are saying, no, don't pull that card yet because it will complicate things. plus, don't forget, they want to get brett kavanaugh confirmed for the supreme court. how are they going to do that if the congress is shut down? in a funny way, maybe chuck schumer will say, yeah, let's shut the government down because that way kavanaugh wouldn't make it to the start of the supreme court session. who knows. >> the president also said there are evil people here in washington in this interview with rush limbaugh.
let me read to you another quote from the president. you have a lot of bad people in washington. you knew that a long time ago. frankly, before i knew it, i had no idea how evil some of them are. but you have some great people, too. so he's doubling down on his evil people here in washington. >> what a revelation. i mean, it's washington. you have it in every city. listen. it fits his narrative. he blames -- in there is blame he assigns to various folks who criticize him or stand up to him. some of them, sadly, the media is often one of his favorite targets. but not just the media. even some in his own party and democrats. it's a consistent trump theme, and it's perhaps some consistent trump hyperbole there. >> let's get back to his tweet. a real bombshell this morning, carrie, when he said this is a terrible situation and attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country any further.
he said bob mueller is totally conflicted and has 17 angry democrats doing his dirty work are a disgrace to the usa. adam schiff, the top democrat issued a statement following that. quote, the president of the united states just called hosattorney general to put an end to an investigation in which the president, his family and his campaign may be implicated. this is an attempt to obstruct justice hiding in plain sight. america must never accept it. what's your reaction to that statement from adam schiff? >> adam is not only on the house intelligence committee but also a former prosecutor. and as a former prosecutor, as anybody who used to be in the justice department, to see a president trying to pressure, for political purposes, the department of justice, it's just offensive. >> with that thought, here's sarah sanders. >> it's like the q. you knew i was coming. good afternoon. later today at 1:35 p.m., hawaii time, vice president mike pence at the request of president trump will participate in an
honorable carry ceremony at joint base pearl harbor. the leader of north korea has followed through on his commitment to return the first set of remains to our homeland. these brave souls deserve nothing but our honor and respect. the families of these soldiers have been waiting for more than 60 years for their loved ones to come home. we hope that as remains are identified, families like those of commander john k. mcheel can find peace. john was assigned to navy squadron 125 and was killed leading a dive bomb mission. his nephew doug recently wrote the president a letter explaining how his uncle was a special person who grew up in the great depression and wanted to serve his country. another letter from mary in pennsylvania tells the president of her uncle corporal andrew boyer who has been missing in action in korea since september of 1951. mary has a picture of her uncle in her living room as a reminder
of his commitment and service to our country. both of these men and their families represent thousands of proud patriotic american families. the president is committed to them and will work to bring them the closure they deserve. on another matter, we have seen all of the alarming images of the wildfires causing severe damage out west. the white house and fema have been actively monitoring the wildfires to ensure that federal assistance is provided as quickly as possible. on saturday, the president declared that an emergency exists for the california wildfires. as a result, fema has placed resources from eight different federal departments and agencies to support the efforts of local firefighters and relief organizations. the president will continue to monitor this ongoing emergency and make sure the people of california receive the assistance they need to keep them safe and recover. our prayers are with the firefighters who recently lost their lives battling these fires and their grieving families. lastly, the president has been
closely following the ongoing situation in turkey involving pastor andrew brenson. we've seen no evidence that pastor brenson has done anything wrong, and we believe he's a victim of unfair and unjust attention by the government of turkey. at the president's direction, the department of treasury is sanctioning turkey's minister of justice and minister of interior, both of whom played leading roles in the arrest and detention of pastor brenson. any property or interest in property of both ministers within u.s. jurisdiction is blocked, and u.s. persons are generally prohibited from engaging in transactions with them. for anything further, i would refer you to the treasury department on that front. with that, eultake your questions. zeke? >> thank you. first, quickly. last month there were only three briefings with you for a total under an hour. we'd appreciate it if we get
more time. a lot of issues we'd like to cover. one of those is the president's tweet this morning about the president's direction to jeff sessions asking him to end the mueller probe right now. the president said a few weeksing -- or a few months ago he's not going to intervene in the department of justice's investigation. was this more of a change in posture? >> it's not an order. it's the president's opinion and it's ridiculous that all of the corruption and dishonesty that's gone on with the launching of the witch hunt, the president wants to -- has watched this process play out. but he also wants to see it come to an end as he stated many times. and we look forward to that happening. >> and on a different topic, sarah, you mentioned the transfer of the remains from north korea. fulfilling his commitment to the president. there's a report yesterday that north korea is still assembling icbms. it's not yet possible to verify the remains being transferred back are human or american.
how does that meet the test of north korea fulfilling its requirement? >> i'm not going to comment on your first part of the question on any potential intelligence matter. in terms of the remains, we have the best of the best that have been working over the last several weeks on this process. we'll keep you updated on it. but we feel comfortable in the assessment that they've made up until this point. john? >> sarah, on the next proposed tranche against china, the figure initially for tariffs was 10%. but it's our understanding that the president now wants to take that up to 25%. what's the reason behind increasing it from 10% to 25% and in a tit-for-tat, if you want to call a trade war something else, who has more bullets? china or the united states? >> the president firmly believes that the united states certainly does. we'll have an update later today, and there will be a call
at 3:30 this afternoon to walk through the details of that update in regards to the question you asked about 10 to 25. the bottom line is the president is going to continue to hold china responsible for their unfair trade practices. this has gone on for long enough, and he's going to do something about it. >> does the president believe that -- >> back here, sorry. go ahead, john. >> the president has made some headway with the eu in terms of lowering trade barriers, taking steps toward leveling the playing field. does the president and his team believe that that is possible with china without some taking some real punitive measures? >> certainly we'd like to see the playing field level. the president, as both he and i think about 15 members of his administration have said repeatedly we'd like to see the unfair trade practices stop. until that happens, the president is going to hold their feet to the fire and continue to
put pressure on china. he's not going to sit back and allow american industries and american workers to be taken advantage of. dave? >> sarah, churches around the country, synagogues, some evangelical leaders have been up in arms in the last few weeks about last year's tax cut law. there's a provision that's going to force them to pay a new 21% federal income tax on the benefits they give to certain employees. can you assure churches from the podium that they'll not have to pay a new tax? >> i'm not going to make a blanket generalization about every church but the goal of the tax forms and reforms package was to provide the greatest amount of relief to the greatest number of americans, and we feel it's done that. we feel the other policies that the president has put forward twhen comes to the economy have certainly moved the ball forward, made our economy infinitely stronger than it has in decades. you can see that by all of the numbers that have come out over
the last year and a half. hunter? >> what is the president prepared to do to make sure they keep their tax-exempt status? >> certainly something we're looking into but i don't have anything specific for you on that front. hunter? >> federal law says that any threatening letter or communication aims at impedesing it obstruction of justice. he doesn't think it's obstruction because the president said he should stop it rather than ordering him to halt it. you just echoed that reasoning before. what i want to know, is rudy giuliani the one giving the president legal advice on his tweets, and does that statement reflect the opinion of the president's legal team? >> the president is not obstructing. he's fighting back. the president is stating his opinion. he's stating it clearly. and he certainly is expressing the frustration that he has with the level of corruption that we've seen from people like jim
comey, peter struck. most of america is angry as well and there's no real reason he shouldn't be able to voice that opinion. margaret? >> tesla plans to spend $5 million to build a plant in china. they are saying it's not going to affect tesla operations in the u.s., but i'm wondering whether the administration has any concerns about tesla's plans. >> certainly we'd love to see all american companies investing here. i don't have anything specific on tesla but we'd encourage all companies to build their plants in america. put their investments here and not engage and help bolster a country like china that has continued to be part of a very unfair process and very unfair trading practices. john? >> thanks a lot, sarah. there was reaction to the president's tweets today from some of his allies on capitol hill.
republican senator hatch said, i don't fully get what he's trying to do. and another republican senator said the mueller investigation needs to move forward. he said they ought to let them complete their work. do you agree with that sentiment expressed by senator thoon that this investigation by mr. mueller ought to be completed and not be cut off? >> we certainly think it should be completed. sooner rather than later. it's gone on for an extensive amount of time. they've still come up with nothing in regards to the president. we'd like to see it come to a close. we've said that a number of times. so, sure, we actually agree on that front. cecilia? >> just because we're tight on time. cecilia, go ahead. sorry, john. just because we're tight on time, i'll try to get to as many people as possible. >> does the president still believe that millions of people are voting illegally in this country? is that the basis for this push for requiring voter i.d.s?
>> even if there are ten people voting illegally, it shouldn't happen. the president wants to see the integrity of our election systems upheld. he wants to make sure that anybody that's voting is somebody that should be voting. and that's something that should be celebrated. not discriminated. major? >> when was the last time the president went to a grocery store? >> i'm not sure. >> you go to the grocery store. i've never had to show an i.d. at the grocery store. i've never had to show an i.d. when i go to buy groceries. >> if you go to a grocery store and buy beer and wine you'll show your i.d. >> the president doesn't drink -- >> he's not saying every time he went in. he's saying when you go to the grocery store. i'm sure everybody in here who has been to a grocery store that's purchased beer or wine has probably had to show their i.d. if they didn't, then that's probably a problem with the grocery store. major? >> following up on john decker's question, you want the investigation to end.
you want it to end, i presume, without any obstruction or interference. many have described the president's tweet as blowing off steam. is that a fair characterization? it's just an opinion he's throwing throughout. it has nothing to do with his actual governmental control of or supervision of this investigation. >> once again as i said earlier, the president is stating his opinion. it's not an order, but he's been, i think, crystal clear about how he feels about this investigation from the beginning. sarah? >> you said a moment ago the investigation itself is corrupt. the mueller investigation. you mentioned comey and mccabe and strzok. >> the entire investigation is based off of a dirty, discredited dossier that was paid for by an opposing campaign and had a lot of corruption within the entity which was overseeing it, which was peter strzok, james comey, andrew
mccabe. i don't think we have to go into it every time we're here. >> if it is corrupt, why hasn't the president -- why doesn't he follow through on it? >> the president has allowed this process to play out. but he thinks it's time for it to come to an end. sere? >> thank you, sarah. i'm wondering if you can clarify this tweet from this morning. is it the president's desire for, first, sessions to unrecuse himself from the probe and is it also his desire for the special counsel to be fired? >> i think i've clarified this about ten times now. it's the president's opinion. i don't have anything further. steve? >> yes, sarah. last night at the tampa rally, the president again pushed for creation of a space force as a new military branch. the defense department today missed the deadline to submit a report to congress about how this space force is to be structured. and we're told the white house is now twice rejected drafts because the defense department doesn't want a space force. it would rather create a space
command under the existing military structure. in view of this, how is the president going to force the creation of a space force? >> we're continuing to work with the department of defense to figure out and determine the best way forward. something the president feels strongly about. and we're going to work with our team there and figure out the best solution. >> i have a question about the president is meeting with inner city pastors. today secretary carson pushed policies that would raise the rent on many poor people. also policies that would slow the anti-immigration initiative. what is it going to say to pastors who may be hurt by some of these policies? >> certainly that's a reason to sit down with these individuals to hear their feedback and concerns. the primary point of discussion for today is to discuss prison reform, but i wouldn't be surprised if they raise those issues. that's why the president has invited them here so he can have those ongoing conversations and determine how best to help them in a number of different situations.
>> [ inaudible ]. >> i'm sorry? >> are those policies raising rents on poor people and slowing anti-segregation initiatives, are they helping inner cities? >> i would have to look at the specific policies you're referencing. i'd be happy to do that after the briefing. julie? >> members of this administration are currently talking about big cuts to the refugee resettlement program, currently capped at $45,000 but as low as $25,000 next year. does the president feel this country admits too many refugees? what does he think the proper level is and what would the rationale be for scaling it back? >> this is part of an ongoing discussion and no policy decisions have been made. but we'll keep you posted as they are. jeff? >> sarah -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> i'm sorry? >> does the president think there are too many refugees coming in? >> we want tos make sure we know who they are, why they are coming and that they pose no danger or threat to americans. that's the number one priority. we want to make sure that we have the processes in place and the ability to vet any
individual that would come into this country. if the department of homeland security and other agencies, that they would work in coordination with determine that they don't have the ability to vet a certain number, then the president would have concerns with that. the number one priority is national security and making sure we have the ability to properly vet and process any individual that comes into this country. jeff? >> you said the president wants this investigation to be completed. he has not yet made the decision if he'll sit down with bob mueller. isn't he part of dragging this out a bit? and also when he tells you something personally, do you take it as a directive or as his opinion? >> on the first part, i would refer you to the president's outside counsel and specific negotiations with the special counsel. and the second part, i'm sorry? >> you said his tweet was his opinion. when he tells you something as a member of his staff, how do you know if it's a directive from the president or if it's simply his opinion? >> the president makes it pretty clear when i'm having those conversations with him. >> seemed pretty clear.
his tweet this morning said he wanted to -- time for the investigation to be stopped. does the president know that jeff sessions can't stop the investigation? has he directed rod rosenstein to? >> the president is well aware of how the process works. he's stating his opinion. >> what does the president plan to do about 3d plastic guns? and has he spoken to the nra about this snsh. >> the president is glad this was give more time to review. turkey this directly with president erdogan. >> yes, they have discussed it on several occasions. >> was he upset about it? >> i think you can see in the
actions the president made today he's not happy with turkey's decision not to release the pastor. >> possibility of shutdown on taxes, does the president support the way capital gains are taxed. on the possibility of a shutdown, is the president talking about potentially endorsing a government shutdown before november's election, after november's election or both. >> on the first part of your question, this is something that has a lot of support from various people. no administration policy has been determined but the president asked the treasury department to take a look into it. on the second part of your question regards to shutdown, the president is focused on timing of before or after the election, he's focused on results. he's been talking about this a year and a half. our immigration system is completely broken. he's begging and has been for congress, particularly democrats in congress, step up, do their jobs, stoppic canning the ball
down the field and work with him to fix the system. it's that simple. >> does the president have a personal opinion whether or not the system works -- >> again, he's asked the treasury department to look into it. david. >> thank you, sarah. two quickies in tampa, does the president encourage support people that show up qanonfor trump? is the white house willing to say in view of what happened to one of our tv colleagues last night he's wrong for vocal supporters to be menacing towards journalists doing their job in a situation like that or any situation? >> the first part, the president condemns and denounces any group that would incite violence against another individual and certainly doesn't support groups that would promote that type of behavior. we've been clear about that a number of times since the beginning of the administration. on the second part of your question, the president, as i
just said, does not support violence against anyone or anything. we've been very clear every single time we've been asked about that. when it comes to the media, the president does think that the media holds a responsibility. we fully support a free press. there also comes a high level of responsibility with that. the media routinely reports on classified information and government secrets that put lives in danger and risk valuable national security tools. this has happened both in our administration and in past administrations. one of the worst cases was the reporting on the u.s. ability to listen to osama bin laden's satellite phone in the late '90s. because of that reporting he stopped using that phone and the country lost valuable intelligence. unfortunately it's not standard top abandon common sense ethical practices. this is a two-way street. we certainly support free press, condemn violence against anybody but we ask people act
responsibly and report accurately and fairly. >> sarah, nobody was being violent last night. they were trying to prevent a broadcaster from getting a broadcast out and yelling his network sucks. is that right or wrong? >> i'm sorry. what was the first part your question? >> no one was being violent in terms of hitting anybody and no broadcaster was broadcasting state secrets. they were trying to do standups at a rally and people yelling over them trying. >> cheri: them from their their jobs. do you support that or not. >> why we certainly support freedom of the appreciation we support freedom of speech. we think those things go hand in hand. >> he talked a little about the tweet earlier, also the tweet about paul manafort and comparing his treatment to that of al capone. he seems to say he thought he was being treated unfairly. i guess, first of all, why does -- does the president feel like paul manafort is being treated unfairly. when he talks about solitary
confinement and the fact that manafort hasn't been convicted yet, does this administration have concerns about solitary confinement of people outside of paul manafort. >> i'm not aware of a policy decision on this front. certainly the president is clear, he thinks paul manafort has been treated unfairly. >> thank you. two question, one india, one pakistan. can you confirm if they have accepted prime minister modi to be special guest next year in january. >> i know the invitation has been extended but i don't believe a final decision has been made. i do know both secretary mattis and secretary pompeo will be traveling to india, i believe it's next month, and will begin the dialogue in the process and potential discussion for a
presidential visit later in the year. >> pakistani concern historic electi election, mr. khan on corruption election in pakistan. he had very little to say good things about india, u.s. and india but still the prime minister of pakistan today. how are you going to deal with him? >> united states -- prosecute of u.s. pakistan relations. >> certainly united states and ind india have a deep and abiding strategic partnership. we're going to continue to build on that partnership and advance cooperation. i think you'll see that at the meeting. that will take place with secretaries pompeo and mattis next month. peter. >> does the president believe paul manafort is innocent of the charges he faces. >> i don't believe that's the president's role to play. he believes he's being treated unfairly. that's all i can say. >> ask you a follow-up views expressed on twitter attorney
general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now. has the president said that directly to jeff sessions at any point? >> i'm not aware of the president stating his opinion. time for one more question. >> to rod rosenstein. >> not that i'm aware. >> a follow on that. the president's opinion session should end mueller probe but also his opinion the mueller probe should play itself out. >> the president believes he's watched this process play out. he'd like to see it come to a conclusion since it's been going on for the better part of a year and a half and they found no conclusion between the president as he said many, many times before. the president has an event in a couple minutes. >> you've also said the president believes he can fire mueller. doesn't it look weak on twitter for him to say sessions should end this probe when it's rosenstein that can end it and the president can end it. >> it's not weak for the president of the united states to state his opinion. thanks so much, guys.
all right. so there you have it. sarah sanders on the most sensitive issue, this tweet from the president this morning that attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country any further. gloria borger said this is not an order, simply an opinion. he wants to see it come to an end. clearly he's angry about the entire investigation. >> she made a point of saying this is not obstructing. what he's doing is fighting back. and when she was asked is he blowing off steam, she said this is his opinion, it is not an order. but he's been crystal clear about how he feels. i don't know. dana mentioned this before. when a president says you should do something, what's the difference between that and you must do something? >> it's an important issue. she also said, jim sciutto, that this entire investigation, the mueller investigation, is based on a dirty, discredited dossier.
>> the white house podium has become a platform for repeating false information. we've seen it for a year and a half now. that is an abjectly false statement. it's in the documents. the investigation began before the documents existed. when campaign aide george papadopoulos bragged to an australian diplomat about russians offering help and having dirt on hillary clinton and that diplomat, who is a close u.s. ally of the u.s., member of the five group of intelligence sharing nations felt it was significant enough to volunteer to come to the fbi with this information. that's what kicked off this counter-intelligence situation. sarah sanders knows that, the president knows that, it's in the public record, yet she's willing to repeat what is a false statement. this is something the president repeats all the time as part of a broader and strategic attack on his feud to undermine the investigation. in addition to that, listen to her language.
witch hunt has now become not just something that shows up in the president's tweets but repeated from the white house podium and a description of legal investigation endorsed by republicans and democrats. a shorthand. doesn't bother saying mueller probe, it is the witch hunt, which is taken from the president's tweet. they could dismiss the president's tweet as letting off steam but it's become official moniker endorsed by both republicans and democrats. so the president's words do matter. they are repeated from the white house podium. >> another sensitive issue, day two of the paul manafort trial, federal trial in alexandria, virginia, federal trump campaign chairman and the president weighing in on twitter making all sorts of references to the way al capone is treated, paul manafort is being treated. she said, sarah sanders, i think paul manafort is treated unfairly. it's unusual during a criminal trial for the president of the united states to weigh in.
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the average now for 2018, 215,000 a month higher than it was a couple years ago. on the down side, again the number was slightly less than anticipated. transportation and warehouse was interesting. the monthly was almost 19,000. last month we lost 1,000 jobs there. it was one of the things that stood out to me. >> bill: economists and financial people can find something negative in anything. unemployment is at 3.9 percent. we haven't seen a number like this in 18 years. >> the real unemployment number is more impressive called the u6. it takes into account people working part-time but don't want that. that number dropped from 7.5. that's a sharp decline in a long time. >> bill: 2.7% higher wages. you want wages to go a bit higher than that. it was the expectation.
>> another great piece of news, people working part-time for economic reasons because they couldn't find a job, that's dropped by 176,000. 400,000 more people got a job. 100,000 people came into the workforce. overall it was a good number, a strong number. the only thing -- the wages, i want to see wages go higher. i'm really shocked they haven't taken off. >> bill: why is it so stubborn? >> theories the workers coming in are replacing older workers who make a lot of money and you don't have to give it to an -- entry level. >> kimberly strassel, what is clear is this white house is doing an able of whiffing -- what she is arguing is that
this white house is moving at light speed from day one and they are crushing it on the economy but not selling it well enough. do you agree with that? >> i think president trump talks about it a lot. i don't know that the gop talks about it a lot. they talk about it with the same kind. >> bill: she says he talks about other stuff and it serves as a distraction. the mainstream media will not make the points for them. >> they aren't. on that point you're right. he brings up some stuff that's inconsequential other than he is at war with the mainstream media. he is losing when he lets them bait him. the biggest story for anybody in the country is we're growing at a rate that people had given up on. folks now working today that thought they would never work again maybe because they were a non-violent felon or didn't have the job skills. we have something remarkable going on in this country that we had given up on.
>> bill: head-to-toe he is all put together. >> sandra: maybe you can learn something from that, hemmer. you are always looking good both of you. coming up ahead on "america's newsroom" this morning we're getting reaction from the white house. director of strategic communications mercedes schlapp will join us as our headliner this morning next hour. a news conference 90 minutes from now from the sheriff's department on their search for mollie tibbetts. investigators finding a shirt possibly connected to the case near a pig farm searched by federal agents one week ago. tibbetts' family saying they believe she is alive and they will not give up hope. >> we believe mollie is still alive. if someone has abducted with her we are pleading with you to release her. >> we wake up every day at 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning and
fighting. we're all fighting and everybody in the community is fighting to get her back. >> sandra: matt finn is live for us from iowa where we'll get an update on what authorities are learning there, matt. there have been lots of leads in this case so far. what do we now know? >> lots of leads that unfortunately have led to dead ends. regarding that shirt, at the daycare where molly works, she and staff wear red t-shirts. well, yesterday a red t-shirt was reportedly found at a pig farm not far from here. investigators combed that area, a ditch on that pig farm that they had previously searched because of some suspicion they have for the pig farm. that search didn't lead to any major break in the case. this morning police will update us on the status of their investigation. exactly what they'll say isn't clear. so far the family has praised this investigation calling law enforcement strong and sophisticated. one of the major questions in
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government shutdown. brandon judd from the national border security council. what do you think about the threat and the possibility of getting nasty, quote, unquote? >> he is being the leader that everybody expected him to be. those people that voted for president trump, they expected him to be out in front on these issues. that's exactly what he is doing which is going to make those people happy. what we have to look at is we're looking at the safety of the american public. even hard core liberals in chicago are now saying crime is way too much. we've got to suppress the crime and that normally starts at the border. we've got to secure our border in order to secure the safety of the american public. >> bill: do you think a shutdown is a good idea on this issue? >> i do. i would absolutely 100% support a shutdown. i'm a federal employee. it will affect me and my family. but i can tell you that without border security we just don't have the safety and security. when i was a little kid growing
up my parents had no problem letting me walk a mile away to go to the park. today parents just don't let that happen because they're too worried about crime in the united states. crime has to stop. we have to look at this issue. we have to take this issue seriously and a wall in strategic locations will help us secure the border. >> bill: he referred to the current construction ongoing, $1.6 billion in allotted funding. we've heard that number before. if that's the case, what is happening on the border with that money? what is happening with the construction? >> so the construction is starting in san diego, california. and what we're doing is we're extending the walls again in the strategic locations. but we're also reinforcing the old fences that have been torn through, criminal organizations will bring up welding torches and cut through the antiquated fences. we're reinforcing that and doing a lot of the
infrastructure that's necessary. but again, it all circles back to what is the purpose and the purpose is to control the illegal flow of all of the illicit narcotics, all of the illegal aliens and criminals like the ms-13s. we're working on keeping them out of our country. >> bill: you are saying this is happening right now? how much more would it take to get the job done in the way that you think is sufficient? >> well, if you look at what he is requesting when he is requesting the $25 billion, i don't know that we necessarily need $25 billion but we definitely need around $5 to $10 billion. we have to look at the specific locations where walls are going to help us control the traffic. dictate where illegal crossings take place. and if we can dictate that, we can then be successful and we can once and for all secure the border. i've been a border patrol agent
for 21 years. this debate rages year in and year out. >> bill: i don't know how much support he will ever get from democrats. >> he is not. >> bill: i'm not so sure how much support he is getting from republicans. last word on that. >> in fact, it is not just a democrat issue. it is a republican issue. you look at paul ryan. he has never supported the president in this particular issue. it seems like the democrats want voters and the republicans want cheap labor. the border patrol agents are caught in the middle and it's not a good place to be in. >> bill: we'll see what progress we make in time. have a great weekend. >> thank you. >> sandra: president trump's former campaign manager back in court at this hour. what we're learning as the star witness in this case and whether he will take the stand. plus dramatic new video coming into our newsroom showing good samaritans and police officers jumping into action to pull a man from a burning car.
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>> sandra: former trump campaign chairman paul manafort back in a courtroom. prosecutors are saying they have every intention of having manafort's former business partner, rick gates, testify after a judge warned them their case would fall apart if they did not call their star witness. peter doocy is live from u.s. district court in alexandria, virginia this morning. have prosecutors explain why they think manafort allegedly committed these financial crimes yet? >> the mueller team is trying to make the case that paul manafort was running out of money and having a hard time paying bills. they said certain documents were falsified to make it look like his net worth was $4 million higher and debt lower so he could get approved to loans to fund what prosecutors are trying to establish a very luxurious lifestyle that included a flower bed shaped like an m for manafort at his place in the hamptons.
his accountant testified he never told tax preparers he had any foreign accounts even though that would have affected his returns and he was warned of potential penalties and his bookkeeper testified she wasn't aware of any foreign accounts even though manafort, she says, watched over every single penny that came in and went out, sandra. >> sandra: is the trial still moving along quickly? we're several days into this now. >> it is moving quickly. the mueller team said last yesterday right before they recessed for the night they plan to rest their case next week and that the length of the trial overall will depend on what the manafort defense team plans to do after that to make their case and make their defense. we're hearing this morning that they don't know yet if they are going to call manafort to the stand. so far the manafort defense team's strategy has been just to insert his former business partner, rick gates, into as many allegations as possible.
gates is expected to be called to the stand soon and that's important because the judge even told the mueller team yesterday that he doesn't think they can make the case for conspiracy without rick gates. sandra. >> sandra: we'll continue following that throughout the day, peter. >> bill: we're awaiting this news conference expected live in one hour, the disappearance of mollie tibbetts continues to baffle the sheriff's department in iowa. >> sandra: please people fed up with crime in the city of chicago. as hundreds of protestors flood the streets calling for rahm emanuel, the mayor's, resignation. we'll speak to garyy mccarthy live in moments. >> he needs to step up and come to the people where the crime is. the crime is on the south side and the west side.
that's why we came over here to prove that we have to come over here to the north side to make a statement.
>> bill: 9:30 in new york. an hour from now a news conference on the mollie tibbetts disappearance. a young student from the university of iowa. the sheriffs office getting ready for an update. new evidence may have been discovered in the case. her family continues to plead publicly for her safe return. we will cover that event and bring you there live as soon as it begins in iowa. >> sandra: an anti-violence march in chicago briefly shutting down some major streets. dozens of demonstrators making their way through the city to wrigley field yesterday trying to bring attention to deadly gun violence in the city of chicago and calling for the resignation of mayor rahm
emanuel accusing him of being out of touch with communities most affected by high crime. >> we have to do things to irritate in order for change to happen. who wants to do this? but we have to do it. >> we're tired of having a tale of two cities in chicago. and rahm emanuel has perpetuated and expanded the economic disparity. >> sandra: hour next guest is challenging rahm emanuel for mayor, the former superintendent of police in chicago, garry mccarthy. what is going on in our beloved city of chicago? i'm from there and was raised there, got married there and had both my kids there. all the news coming out of that city seems to be horrible these days. what exactly are you seeing and what is happening? >> i can tell you what the protestors said is exactly what's happening. the mayor is out of touch with the people of chicago.
he is more interested in raising taxes to get a war chest so that he can get pay for play from developers and city contracts. he doesn't listen to people. and therefore you see things like what happened yesterday where people feel they actually have to protest to get the attention of the mayor. i go to meetings across this city. small groups of people and sit down and talk to them for enormous amounts of time. everybody says the same thing to me. they said you know, rahm emanuel would not come here and have this conversation with us. and the real reason is because he can't. he is out of touch with it. what they just said is so true, that he is widening the socio-economic divide that exists across this country but particularly in this city and it comes to fruition in gun violence. the issues aren't being
addressed because the mayor is busy bullying people politically and political retribution and working his own war chest. >> sandra: we reached out to rahm emanuel's office and we got a response no thanks. that being said, it seems -- it seems like just nothing is changing. things continue to stay the same, if not get worse. do you see an appetite for change in the city? >> absolutely. people say all the time we want change. one of the things that i love to say is if you always do what you always did you'll always get what you always got. that's what's happening in chicago. things are changing. they are getting worse. we're reaching lawlessness. there are nuances happening that people need to recognize. during the nato summit you heard me say over and over again we're going to defend people's first amendment rights to protest but we're going to be intolerant of criminal
behavior. what you saw yesterday was facilitation of criminal behavior. the city actually closed down lakeshore drive for the protestors. we're crossing a line here. two weeks ago eddie johnson, the superintendent of police, marched onto the dan ryan express way with a priest. that was the jurisdiction of the illinois state police. when the superintendent of police is behaving like that it's a problem. it is being reflected on shootings on the magnificent mile and lakeshore drive. >> sandra: in chicago so far this year these are stats being kept by the chicago trib as we understand it. 304 people killed so far. this is referencing race and ethnicity as far as homicide victims and obviously you can see the numbers surge when it comes to black, non-hispanic numbers. the crimes have been
concentrated in predominantly black, low-income neighborhood. what can you tell us about that? the majority of victims of homicides in chicago are young black men, 416 so far this year. >> what i can tell you is when i was police superintendent in 2013 and 2014 we had the murder rates down to 50-year lows in the city. everything was going in the right direction against complaints against police, overall response and starting in 2016 all of that changed. from 2016 to 2018 there has been 394 more people murdered than there were in the previous three years alone. new york city last year had 290 murders. in a city three times the size of chicago, we had 770 in 2016. this is not okay. it is because of the politics of this city. it is because nothing is being managed. these are the results. >> sandra: we haven't even
mentioned, you brought up rahm emanuel accusing him of pay to play politics. he received money from a developer after a plan commission approved plans for the developer for the city. i want to move onto the sanctuary city. this is rahm emanuel on the sanctuary city policy. great news for all of us who care about protecting immigrant come -- chicago will be a welcoming place for anyone who comes seeking safety. i want to get your response to that. >> really simple. he should be caring more about the african-american community that's getting slaughtered in this city right now. at the end of the day what rahm emanuel does as he talks about global warming, climate change, the president, he weighs in on federal judges. at the end of the day he is not in charge of that. he is in charge of gun violence, cone me and education
system here in chicago and he is not paying attention to it. >> taxes go up, economy is struggling. a huge story for this country to keep watching what is happening in that city. i hope you come back on the program. >> absolutely. thank you. >> bill: 22 before the hour. mike pompeo not mincing words. he is speaking ahead of an asian security forum saying that north korea is far from living up to its pledge. greg palkot picks up story live in london. what else did he say, greg? >> pretty tough line from secretary of state pompeo at a meeting in singapore. on his way to that session of countries of the security and political organization saying that north korea is behaving in a manner this is a quote, inconsistent with its commitment on denuclearization saying the country another quote, has still a ways to go before it gets rid of nuclear
weapons. he thanked the organization for keeping the pressure on north korea and also noted the north korea is in violation of u.n. sanctions. all this just under two months since president trump and kim jong-un summit meeting at that same location. that's where the commitment to denuclearize came. it is sending a reply to a letter chairman kim sent to the white house. the north korea foreign minister is also attending these sessions. it is a mixed picture this week. we saw the dramatic and heartwarming scenes of the remains being repatriated of the u.s. service members lost in north korea. we also are hearing about missiles being made and fissile material for bombs being made. tough row to hoe. that's the behavior that secretary pompeo has been referring to. >> bill: thank you, greg. >> sandra: meanwhile fox news is getting an exclusive look at some of the items returned to
the u.s. from north korea as those metal cases containing several things including two helmets, several can teens and dozens of buttons. a dog tag will be given to the two sons of a dead soldier next week. it could take months or years to identify all the remains, scientists say they're finding some positive signs already. >> what we saw were remains that were consistent with what we have found from korean war recovery we've done over year and consistent with being americans. >> sandra: scientists will sample bones for dna to identify the bodies. >> bill: there might be more than 5,000 missing from that war. thousands were forced from their homes and could drown a city in minutes and more heavy
rain. >> sandra: the trump administration showing a unified front fighting election interference and how intel officials say they're handling the threat. >> russia has tried to use this propaganda and methods to sew discord in america. they stepped up their game big time in 2016. we haven't seen that kind of robust effort from them so far.
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we're prepared to conduct operations against those actors. >> relative to what we have seen for the mid-term elections, it is not the kind of robust campaign that we assessed in 2016 election. >> the nation's elections are more resilient today because of the work we're all doing but we must continue to ensure that our democracy is protected. >> the president has made it abundantly clear to everybody who has responsibility in this area that he cares deeply about it and he expects them to do their jobs to their fullest ability. >> bill: theresa payton former chief ininformation offices and a ceo and good to have you on the program here. what did you think of the message, theresa? >> i was very pleased to see that strong, united front signaling not just to russia but other countries who might meddle. if you meddle we'll figure it
out and there will be repercussions. yesterday was a great step in the right direction. >> bill: what do you think it says to critics who say you aren't taking it seriously enough? >> there is still a lot of work to be done and we have to be relentless in making sure that we don't come up short for the mid-term elections in the next election cycle. so i understand everyone's frustration we need to do more. some of the signals that come out seem confusing. the helsinki meeting. election security dollars. it seems confusing but yesterday it shows this administration is taking it very seriously. >> bill: the election is november 6. when do we know what happens? is it november 7, january 7? how do we gauge this, theresa? >> this is a tough one because we have different attack vectors that could happen. there are the websites themselves at the state level. there is the election databases, the voter registration, the polling booth
and then the whole disinformation campaign that's been going on on social media companies and saying in the cybersecurity community. it could be a long time before we know if there is an issue. the one good thing i do know is that a lot of really smart, dedicated people in the cybersecurity intelligence community are on watch. we've been forewarned. my concern is when we say we aren't seeing things at the same level, it could be they've changed their tactics and using cryptocurrency to set up things in the cloud where they can vaporize it in a moment's notice if they think we're onto them. what are the new tactics allowing them to hide in plain sight? >> bill: those tactics change, i'm sure. the report suggest many states aren't taking it seriously enough. i don't know if you have evidence of that or not. address that and tell us what do you think russia is really
up to? how would everyday americans be influenced by something they see online? >> well, i think what russia has done -- there is a great report, bill, called freedom of the net report that has been put out for every year for 12 years. they've been sounding the alarm from some countries maintain power and using social media to do that. if you think about the premise behind social mead ya. it was set up to connect each of us to each other and to give us more of our common interests and the things we like to follow, the things that we like and to basically have us spend a lot of time there. and because of that, russians who are so great at the ground game with political espionage and these deception techniques, they basically move those techniques over to social media and used it against us. so that to me is one of those
things where as americans now that we're on to them and other countries who may use these tactics, this is why if you see something on social media from the news perspective, step away from social media and go right to the source. go to trusted, vetted news source programs like yours, bill, and actually get your news there and make your decisions for yourself. don't allow what is targeting you on social media to make you think kind of double down on one point of view, be open minded. >> bill: i think the mentality of it, if we're talking about russia all the time, putin is winning that argument. you see it on all the networks all the time. that's precisely what a former kgb agent would want. last comment quick. you are a great guest. >> thanks for having me on. and the last thing i would say the russia would like nothing more than to make americans distrust our democracy through our election security and it's up to us as americans to not
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>> sandra: fox news alert. evacuations ordered to lynchburg, virginia, where officials are bracing for a potential catastrophic flooding situation. the dam is pushed to the brink of failure because of rain and more rain in the forecast, the city is preparing for the worst. griff jenkins is live in washington with the latest. >> it is raining right now in lynchburg. if that dam breaks the city could be facing a catastrophic breach which the national weather service could bring as much as 17 feet of water in just seven minutes. the dam was already flooding yesterday. they've been dealing with flooding from days of rain. officials told me this morning they received nearly seven inches in a matter of a couple of hours to caused the dam to overflow. they're taking residents out by boat and closing roads all over the area and they've been evacuating residents around
that college dam area preparing for the worst. there was a break in the rain yesterday. water began to recede a little bit. but the noaa folks said they could see 1 to 3 more inches with storms in the forecast in the surrounding area. i spoke minutes ago with lynchburg's deputy police chief who told me their main focus is keeping a close watch on the integrity of the dam. the break in the rain relieved some pressure. more water means more pressure and they need to dry out before they can release the water. he has a message for residents. if you're in the surrounding area of the dam and you do not have a reason to be there, you need to get out of the area for your safety and to allow the emergency crews to work and get their resources in place should the unthinkable happen. now, the premise here is fewer people in the area the better. respect detours and do not try
to come down to see this as a spectacle. this is a very dangerous situation. he said he has never seen anything of this magnitude in 22 years on the force. the virginia national guard tells me they haven't had any requests for assistance but stand ready to provide assistance any time if necessary. this is a developing situation and we're keeping a close eye on it. >> bill: president trump saying things are about to get very nasty talking about the border wall. how far he is willing to go if congress does not overhaul immigration laws in america. white house director of strategic communications mercedes schlapp is our guest at the top of the hour and much more.
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morning. i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. white house reaction to a positive jobs report. the president made it clear at a rally last night in pennsylvania the economy and the american worker are back. 3.9%. that's our unemployment number now falling again in july near an 18-year low. that's remarkable. senior political correspondent mike emanuel watching this in d.c. initial reaction now. >> experts are calling the 157,000 jobs added in july disappointing below analyst expectations. others suggest it reflects the shortage of qualified job applicants with unemployment so low these days. the top economic advisor in the white house had this reaction moments ago on fox business. >> i actually thought it was a pretty strong report because the headline number was a little below estimate but look, the back revisions were gigantic. you have to add it in.
it gives you 215 for the month of july. >> unemployment over the past 18 months of president trump's term dipped from 4.7% in february 2017 to a 3.9% in july of this year. during the final 18 months of president obama's term, unemployment improved from 5.1% to 4.8%. ahead of the numbers president trump sounded very upbeat about our economic trends. >> president trump: our economy is soaring, jobs are booming. factories are coming back into our country. >> they're pointing to revisions for may and june which increased employment by 59,000 monthly jobs. it would boost the average to 224,000 jobs gained over the past three months. others express concern the cooling this month could be a warning sign about the developing trade war with china. back to you, bill.
>> bill: mike emanuel in washington you worked business for years, right? the headliner today, mercedes schlapp live from the white house. you can go ahead and sell this economic report in a moment here. i do think as an economist you can find negative news in anything you want, right? chart after chart after chart and number after number. anyway, frame it for us, best number in 18 years, go ahead. >> here at pebble beach i'm seeing larry kudlow with a smile an his face and dancing down the driveway here because as we know the economy remains in credibly strong. in 2018 we're at a pace of making more gains in terms of jobs per month than in the last two years. when you are talking about the fact that the unemployment number this month is at 3.9%, that alone, bill, you could just see, we've hit that eight times in history. the eighth time we hit it in
history since 1970. they're significant numbers. our economic fundamentals are strong. there is no question that because of president trump's leadership, his vision in terms of pushing forward economic policies like tax cuts and tax reform and deregulation, it's working. >> sandra: the question, is the president communicating that message and doing it well enough? kimberly strassel has a piece in the "wall street journal" this morning where she is saying you have a lot to tout but a lot of distraction at the same time. her piece failure to communicate. he has a solid record but too busy making noise to tout it. the white house doing a great job in whipping one of the political -- it's demoralizing candidates alike. >> kimberly should probably watch the rallies and watch what the president has done in the past few weeks.
he was in granite city talking about -- a company that came back and is having jobs here in granite city for steelworkers and where he has gone to iowa and tampa talking about workforce development and also talking about the great economic success story in america. the president talks about the economy every day. and we know that many times it is going straight into the local communities where it matters most where we're seeing the revitalization of communities because of the economic -- because of the president's economic record and that's a message we'll keep talking about through the end of the year and beyond because -- >> bill: i think you can hang your hat on a lot of good news on the economy in the past year and a half. then we get moments like last night in pennsylvania. roll sound bite number two. the potential for a government shutdown. i know he wants this wall. i just don't know about the tactic. you explain this in a moment.
first from last night. >> president trump: the democrats -- anything i want -- it's not even the republicans. i don't know if they care -- they care about me. they're very concerned. anything i want, they want to oppose. i just figured out how to do the wall. i'll say, i don't want to build the wall and they'll insist on building it. i just figured that out right now. >> bill: it was a pretty funny moment. i don't want the wall and you'll give it to me then. why the threat of a shutdown. how does it advance his cause for border security? how does that contribute to a roaring economy right now, mercedes? >> because we do have a crisis on the border and because of the fact that for democrats now their message has become that of abolishing ice and that of open borders, which means more crime. it's because the democrats have obstructed all along the way while the president came in with a compromise in terms of ensuring we would be able to
secure our border, that we would be able to close the legal loopholes. in addition to providing a pathway to citizenship for the daca recipients. it was a plan that the vast majority americans agreed on. the democrats have made this decision of just pushing forward open borders, of allowing this crisis on the border where illegal aliens are crossing the border and then just ending up in our country, there is a legal way to do it. >> bill: you also have to admit that you have the majority in the house and you have the majority in the senate. >> you know in the senate you need 60 votes and the fact that we don't reach those numbers. you'll need the democrats to come on board. it's very clear. as we know when it comes to safety in our communities, when it comes to pushing forward legal immigration as opposed to allowing illegal aliens to just come over, cross the border illegally and end up in the united states, there has to be a way that we're able to stop
this. it starts with funding the wall which as we know the wall is shown to work. this is something the president will work and see if he can get the democrats on board. thus far what we've seen from the democrats is pure obstruction. >> sandra: the president is campaigning for lou barletta, he needs a boost. whether or not trump will give him that we'll see. here he is doing so. >> president trump: most importantly, get your friends, get your neighbors, and get out and vote for an incredible champion, an incredible winner, lou barletta. with your help, your voice, your vote, we are going to keep on fighting and we are going to keep on winning. we are going to win so much perhaps some of you, but not all, will get tired of winning. >> sandra: will he give barletta the much-needed boost he needs? >> i can't talk elections but i
can talk about the president's economic policies are working. the mere fact we're seeing -- there was one article that came out not long ago of really seeing hope and change happening in these communities, much-needed communities in terms of manufacturing jobs coming back, construction jobs coming back. even those who don't have a high school diploma. their unemployment is down at a record level. unemployment rates for hispanics, african-americans, women across the board are benefiting because of president trump, his economic policies, and obviously the strength that he brings through what we've seen in terms of pushing forward for denuclearization in north korea and continuing to work with our allies in making sure we have strong national security. >> bill: he has a really good story to tell and a really good story to sell and we'll find out on tuesday to some measure of how the american people are feeling. you have a special election in
ohio, congressional district 12. the republicans balderson and democrat o'connor. the latest poll shows a one point district. the president won this district in 2016. the tweet last night. he will campaign hard for a future congressman troy balderson. see you all then. we'll see what happens on tuesday. the polling is tight. i don't know what explains that. is this the flight of suburbanites on the administration? how would you characterize that? >> there is no question anyone who aligns themselves with the president, he brings a winning message. he is the one who is able to help so many of these individuals, as we know at the end of the day it's because of president trump's policies that we're seeing such success. and i have to tell you, just seeing him in action he is results oriented and why he isn't just going to give up in terms of working on trade deals.
as we know we're getting close on the nafta deal with mexico as well as continuing to put pressure on china to stop these abuses of the trading practices, which no other president had ever really forcefully done. we're seeing movement in that area as well. so i think what you're seeing, you saw vice president pence coming back with the remains of those fallen soldiers from north korea. again, pushing north korea in a direction to basically live up to their promise. this is a president who is a non-stop working machine and -- >> sandra: what this morning is the talk inside the white house after that moment in the white house press briefing yesterday, contentious moment between sarah sanders and jim acosta of cnn. he pressed her to say the press is not the enemy of the people and walked out of the briefing. >> you know, fake news is dangerous. we know for a fact that many of
these so-called news reporters, okay, that go out there have a complete disdain for president trump. it is no wonder we've seen that 90% of the media coverage for president trump has been negative. what american people want to see is fair, objective coverage. quite frankly you've had reporters who cried the day that president trump won and they show their bias. i think it's very troubling. for that being said the president has to defend himself. the president and those of us in the administration who have been blamed and have been called names by journalists. we really want to be able to be able to talk about the president's winning message. it is very hard when you have reporters who prefer to see themselves on camera all the time and many of the liberal media who have complete disdain for this president and refuse to acknowledge any of the positive work he is doing. >> bill: i don't think he should be defensive on this. you need to go on offense and a
big part of why you came on today. we're going to take this up with our media panel in a moment. it was quite a thing watching that and seeing sarah sanders' reaction. she felt it. i hope you come back. are you tired of winning? >> no, not at all. not at all. i'm more tired dealing with my kids these days than winning over here. >> sandra: five daughters, right? fox news alert. moments away from the brief news conference on mollie tibbetts' disappearance. there was a shirt found near a pig farm. mollie's family is still hopeful she is a live, plus this. >> president trump: but they can make anything bad because they are the fake, fake, disgusting news. >> bill: that was the message for the mainstream media and
sarah sanders said she is sick of the personal attacks her and why no one would defend her from the white house press corps. has the hostility gone too far? the a-team is next. so you have, your headphones, chair,
states should not call us the enemy of the people. i want you to acknowledge that right now and right here. >> i appreciate your passion, i share it. i've addressed this question. i've addressed my personal feelings and here to speak on behalf of the president. he has made his comments clear. >> sandra: sarah sanders taking on the press corps at the white house briefing. jim a costa asking sanders to say the press is not the enemy of the people. instead she cited all the personal attacks against her. america's a-team joining us now. david asman, after the bell on the fox business network, shelby holliday reporter for the "wall street journal" and judith miller author. what were your thoughts as you watched the exchange yesterday? >> at first sad and then outraged. look, i think jim acosta has to be reminded this is not about
him. this is about the united states and his coverage of the president of the united states. and to use the white house press to -- as a back drop for a right, a self-righteous rant is inappropriate. sarah sanders is not going to denounce the president she works for. he shouldn't expect her to do that. and even his colleagues were rolling their eyes saying, you know, please. i think that donald trump has created the kind of mood that lets people like jim acosta think this is appropriate. >> i think that both sarah sanders and jim acosta should watch mr. smith goes to washington remember that old movie about an outsider who becomes senator in washington the press tells all kinds of lies about him. he goes around and finds all of the press people and punches them out. not to say that sarah sanders
should punch out the media around washington this is not new. jim acosta is approaching the issue, i agree with everything you said, judy, about this. jim acosta is outrage like this is something brand-new. this has been going back 100 years where this antagonistic relationship exists there are people in the media that tell lies about what is going on inside the beltway and those who try to stick to the truth. it has always been so and always will be so and there is and probably should, i think, be an antagonistic relationship between the media and the folks that serve us. >> sandra: it was important that we show the exchange that we're talking about here. watch. >> i also think it's ironic -- i'm trying to answer your question. i called on you despite the fact that you interrupted me. i said it is ironic. i'm trying. >> if you would not mind letting me have a follow-up
that would be fine. >> it's eye raonic jim that you and the media not only attack the president when they lower the level of conservation in this country. >> sandra: shelby. >> it is awkward watching that. you hope for a joke or some moment of levity because it's so contentious. not the first time it's happened and won't be the last. it is becoming very personal. in the white house briefing room you are supposed to be talking about the president. sarah huckabee sanders is there to speak on behalf of the question. it is not about the press and the press secretary but about the president of the united states. he devolved in a very personal. >> bill: you have the white house press corps. you brought up a comedian who -- i'm the first press secretary of the history of the united states that required secret service protection. i felt a lot of emotion in her response there yesterday. she was affected by this.
>> it's a stretch to say that jim acosta is responsible for michelle wolf's joke at the white house correspondents dinner. she took the moment very personally and not over it, fair enough. everyone has the right to feel that way. >> that's why most americans i think are justifiably fed up with the media because they have this self-righteousness that acosta was beaming with yesterday about how we are above everything and you have to treat us -- forget about it. the press corps sometimes gets down and dirty and sometimes they get it dead wrong. you accept that. you go way back and find out it was even tougher. >> that conversation seems like it should be happening down the hall. >> bill: ivanka trump did an interview. she was asked is the media the
enemy of the people? here is her response. >> i have certainly received my fair share of reporting on me personally that i know not to be fully accurate. so i've had some -- i have some sensitivity around why people have concerns and gripe especially when they are sort of feeling targeted but no, i do not feel that the media is the enemy of the people. >> bill: we have the tweet from the president. she correctly said no, it is the fake news, which is a large percentage of the media, that is the enemy of the people. >> she didn't say that. she said that the press is not the enemy of the people, which is what jim acosta wanted sarah sanders to say she is not going to say it. i was pleased ivanka said it but ivanka is not the president.
part of the problem is the president -- he just goads us into doing things like what jim acosta did. we shouldn't rise to the bait. our job is to keep our heads down and cover him fairly and accurately. if he makes errors to fact we should point out but not be personal. >> we should point out when the media makes mistakes as well because sometimes they don't. >> you guys played a clip before the break of trump looking at the media riser and pointing saying fake, fake, disgusting news. i hope it changes but i don't know how it changes. >> bill: we have a press conference coming up. judith and shelby and david. we're moments away from a news conference. mollie tibbetts, new clues, we'll see what police add to this in a moment as we take you
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from there? >> hi, guys, we're here live on the ground here in iowa at the sheriff's department where momentarily there will be a news conference. there are so many questions that have gone unanswered and we're hoping the sheriff and some law enforcement officers here will provide answers. we know that on july 18th around 7:30 mollie tibbetts went jogging. we don't know if she ever returned home. law enforcement has kept that very close to their vest. we don't know if she returned home after jogging. but we do know that the investigation has been centered around a hog farm right outside of brooklyn, iowa. some of the questions that are going to be answered are concerning a red shirt that has been recently found to try to
show if there is -- hopefully the sheriff will be able to tell us if there is a clue between the shirt and mollie and any suspects at this immediate time. a lot of rumors are going on. i'm hoping the sheriff will give us some information concerning some of these rumors. >> sandra: i think that's the point, though, ted, right, why we're so highly anticipating these news conferences because authorities have been so tight lipped on this case. we're struggling to get anything new about possible witnesses, about who they might be even considering played out in this crime. we know this pig farmer has been interviewed for multiple hours. we haven't heard much from police. >> you know, you're absolutely right.
law enforcement has been very tight lipped and on one hand saying they want the public's help and quite naturally the media is out here and clearly wants to help, but you have to give them some information. and this we've been given at this stage limited information. i'm hoping that they will own up here today and give us more information so we can get it out to the public and the public can help to try to bring mollie home. >> bill: two things. how far is the farm from the house that -- the pig farm? it's one thought i have at the moment, and the other thought is, numerous interviews with family members and the boyfriend, they've all said that investigators have given them very little information themselves as sandra was referring to publicly. privately they're getting very little information. in an investigation like this, what would be the logic behind why police would do it that way. >> well, two things.
the hog farm is approximately 17 i would say miles away from brooklyn. law enforcement have a great deal of information that they know that the perpetrator or the person who may have entered the home, if they entered the home, who may have abducted mollie, if she was abducted, have a great deal of information as some physical evidence. they don't want to share that with the public because quite naturally they can use it later certainly if they can bring the perpetrator himself or herself to justice. so law enforcement do in investigations hold a lot to their vests but i have to tell you this investigation i've seen them hold more to the vest than if most investigations. again, if they want the public's help, they'll have to give the public and the news media more information so we can disseminate that to the
public and try again to bring mollie home. >> sandra: the latest that we heard out of this investigation talking about how little we have heard come from this is this red shirt. the reason why that is important, it was found on this pig farm. the reason it would be for she worked at a daycare facility and wear the red shirt to work. the timeline is called into question. perhaps she went to bed that night and on her way the work the following morning that something could have happened. >> you see, again that is information that law enforcement needs to share with the public. when and if she was after jogging did she return to her boyfriend's home, to jack's home. we don't really know that. that's one of the pieces of the puzzle. as pertains to the red shirt what they'll have to do is show a nexus between the red shirt
and mollie. we don't know that as of this time. we do know that they are looking at many numerous suspects. they've got at least 200 leads recently and they're following up on those leads. but one of the individuals who i understand that they are suspect, they brought him in and talked to him for two hours. >> sandra: there is a technical something happened with the microphone. we're hoping it will fix itself and give you a second as we set up what we're waiting on here. we've gotten the two-minute warning the press conference is about to begin. mollie tibbetts was last seen july 18th. over two weeks out. she went for a run is what we know. new information coming in is the shirt was found on a hog farm how far away from the house? >> bill: 17 miles. i don't know in which direction. the boyfriend and boyfriend's brother were working at a
construction site 100 miles away. was it a different part of the state? small town, brooklyn, iowa, population 1400. dog sitting that night at her boyfriend's home. her brother lives there as well. she just finished her second year of college. >> sandra: the boyfriend who was on this program with you earlier this week said we left our doors unlocked, you know. it is something that everybody in the town does. ted, i wonder as we wait for the news conference to begin now -- is it underway now? okay. we'll get to that when it begins. if you could just tell us what you're hearing and seeing on the ground there considering this is such a small, tight knit community in rural iowa, people must be kind of scared. >> well, they are somewhat apprehensive and afraid at this time because this is middle
america. this is a very tight knit community, brooklyn, iowa. i can tell you that individuals here have galvanized in the community, the men, the women, the children, they've all dedicated to one mission, bringing mollie home. the thing about it is, it has been reported that individuals within this community do, in fact, leave their door open. this is middle america. yes, they do leave their doors open. they feel very comfortable. i can tell you as a result of mollie going missing, this has left a lot of individuals within this community terribly apprehensive. >> bill: thank you, ted. stand by out there, okay? we're waiting on police. we were given a two-minute morning and some sort of delay. may not mean anything at all. mother's father, rob, praising the investigators yesterday saying it has been large and sophisticated, aggressive as
well and very sensitive to family. now we're told the police are about to approach the microphone. let's hang with the signal here. if we get the signal stronger from ted we'll go back to him. this captured the attention of a country in a way we haven't seen in some time. the mystery is obvious with very few answers. >> sandra: a big part of this investigation has been social media, electronic devices. she was working on a laptop the night she disappeared doing homework late into the night which her father has told us on the program that is not uncommon for mollie. she was an avid runner. she went for a jog that night. the family is gathering. they're beginning. let's listen in. >> i appreciate your patience. we're here for another update. with me i'll do some introductions here. the sheriff is with us. special agent in charge from the f.b.i. is here.
mollie's mother is here. rob and casey tibbetts are here, dalton is here and well as our missing person information clearinghouse manager. we want to start with the sheriff to come forward and read a brief statement. >> this might be a little redundant. we appreciate your help in getting the information about mollie out to the people all across the country. on july 19th, 2018, 20-year-old mollie tibbetts of brooklyn, iowa was reported missing by her family. she was last seen on july 18th at approximately 7:30 p.m. while running the city streets of brooklyn. last known article of clothing is believed to be dark colored running shorts, pink sports top and running shoes color unknown. although mollie has not been located, the investigation into her disappearance has not slowed down at all.
the public is encouraged to contact the following tip lines if they believe they have information related to mollie's disappearance. first tip line is 800-452-1111 or 515-223-1400. there is also a dedicated email to accept tips and that's -- i want to just tell the people if we have a tip from outside the area, if it's outside of brooklyn, iowa, please call your local authorities. reporting a tip that you see outside the area would take time for us to respond to that. so if you are from out of state or out of the general area of this county please call your local authorities. they've been great about following up on these tips. to speed things up if you could do that, that would be very helpful to us. and there are a couple of
people i want to thank. i want to thank central iowa crimestoppers for staffing the tip lines. they've been getting hundreds of tips every day and they're working very hard at it and also working, i would like to thank them for working with the family on the reward for mollie. there is one other group of people i want to thank from my office. i want to thank all my co-workers for working hard on this. especially our dispatchers. they are being inundated with telephone calls and all kinds of things and two of them live in brooklyn so it's very dear and close to their hearts what's happening here. they've been getting beat up over this and i want to make sure they know how much we appreciate what they're doing. thank you very much. >> thank you, sheriff. i guess i should have started by introducing myself. i'm the director of investigative operations for the iowa department of public safety. since i last met with you on
tuesday, the investigative response has not slowed down. investigators from the dci and f.b.i. and sheriffs office continue to complete leads that come in and evaluate and prioritize new leads being received every day. unfortunately we have not yet found mollie but it has not been due to a lack of effort or resources. we appreciate the continued support of mollie's family, the entire community and the media organizations keeping this story in the news. although we appreciate everyone showing up today for this press conference our position hasn't changed on the release of case facts, results and conclusions. i understand it is frustrating for many in the public and media but feel it's necessary for our investigation. our position has also not changed in that if we evaluate a piece of information and feel its release could lead us to mollie we'll do so immediately. as mentioned previously, there are media reports regarding details of this investigation
that dci has not confirmed. the fact that we do not confirm or deny these details is not an indicator of their truth or falsity. we've been asked about social media postings and the investigation and whether they're beneficial or not. these postings are beneficial in that they keep the investigation in the public eye. however, i would keep in mind these posts are often rumor and unconfirmed by law enforcement. as a result of this investigation, many questions have arisen from the public and media regarding missing children in iowa. with me today is the missing person information clearinghouse manager for the division of criminal investigation. at this time i would ask her to come forward to provide some information related to missing persons in iowa. >> good morning, everyone. as kevin has mentioned i'm the iowa missing persons information clearinghouse manager. today we would like to address some frequently asked questions we've been receiving not only from the media but the general
public as well. we would like to start with general statistic. yesterday, august 2 there were a total of 3 -- 225 were listed as juveniles. majority of those are runaway situations. 26 of those individuals listed on the clearinghouse website are categorized as involuntary. those 26 cases date back as far as 1976 which confirms that abductions and involuntary disappearances are not common in our state. numbers have stayed steady over the years when it comes to missing persons, runaway youth and amber alerts. the clear house website was established in 1985 as a result of iowa legislation passed in iowa code 694. designed to disseminate information to keep the public informed on missing people from iowa. iowa is one of the few states that publishes all missing
persons information. local law enforcement agencies from primary authority to address missing persons cases in the state of iowa. all entries into the national crime information center as well as investigations are handled by local police departments and sheriffs offices. they can seek assistance from state and federal law enforcement partners if needed. the clearinghouse keeps track of significant likely criminal cases occurring in our jurisdiction regardless of the time frame. people go missing for various reasons whether that be by choice, wandering away because of a disability, running away from home, stranger abduction or by someone that they know. we really hope that this clarifies some questions that the media and the public has had regarding missing persons and at this point i'll take any questions that you may have regarding missing persons in iowa.
>> we plan to conduct another press conference now next tuesday. information about that press conference will be posted on the dps website and hope to have more information to provide to you next tuesday. at this time if you have any questions i'll be happy to address them. >> ted williams, fox news. it has been reported that a red shirt has been found and i was wondering can you shed any light on whether a red shirt has been found and whether there is any kind of a nexus between the red shirt that may have been found and mollie? and do you at this stage have any suspect? >> i don't have any information with me today on a red shirt being found. that's not to say there was one found or not found. i just don't have that information. as far as suspects go, we're still -- we continue to look at all possibilities. i'm not in a position right now to say we have suspects or we don't have suspects, persons of
interest or anything else. >> initially it was reported by your agency and others that she was wearing a black sports top, now this newer descriptions that you just referred that she was in a pink sports top. that may be confusing to the people or public. can you explain the discrepancy there? >> no, i don't. i can get back to you. >> even on the poster it says black sports top. >> i'll look into that and get back to you. >> as i mentioned previously we're not in a position to say who is a suspect, who isn't a suspect or that there are suspects. >> have you employed any divers to search ponds. >> we've been doing searches in many different manners. i don't know if we're using divers. my assumption would be if
you're searching ponds, we're using divers. >> people were out yesterday and going back. would it do any good for ask for the volunteers again and search new areas further away? >> i leave that up to the investigative team to determine what the priorities are for the investigation on any given day. they have the latitude. they have all of the information at their availability to make those decisions and we leave those decisions up to the investigative team. >> since you raised the reward amount have more tips been coming in? >> tips have been coming in regularly. the pace to which they're coming in i can't speak to since the reward amount has been upped. >> have you found any articles or clothing or physical evidence? >> that will be another area that i'm not going to devil into -- delve into at this time. >> you have no suspects and no persons of interest, is that
correct? >> no, what i -- regardless of what i just said or you interpreted i won't speak to the fact whether we have suspects, persons of interests or anything else. >> follow up. are you saying that you have no solid leads at this point? >> no, because i think all leads are valuable. how you define solid would be up for interpretation. at this point we view all leads as valuable. as they come in they're evaluated and prioritized and we're looking into everything at this point. >> do you think you're closer to solving this now than you were two weeks ago on the 19th. >> that would be a conclusion based on the investigation and i won't speak to that at this point. >> recovery or rescue? >> the day she was abducted or disappeared -- >> can you clarify -- [inaudible question] >> i'm confident we have a solid timeline that they're working off of. at this point we aren't ready to disclose what the timeline
is which is what your question is. >> since the reward fund was increased can you characterize the kind of tips that have come in? different kinds of tips? doing that as a reward or recovery fund produced anything significantly different than you were getting before? >> i really don't have the information with me right now to say that if any of the leads that were developed provided anything significant or not. leads are a good thing. as tips come in they generate leads. all leads are important and they're all being looked at. >> any kind of disturbance inside the home? anything unusual in the home? >> that's another area that would cause me to comment on the result of an investigative lead and i'm not going to do that at this time. >> [inaudible question] >> no. as i've mentioned previously as leads come in and information
is evaluated, the investigative team responds to those and prioritizes those. i would expect those searches to continue whether they're from the air, on bodies of water or in fields, wherever those leads may take them. >> are you treating this as a stranger abduction? >> we're treating this as a missing persons investigation and trying to find mollie. that continues to be our focus is to find mollie. >> clarify the importance of every passing hour? >> it's frustrating for everybody. it is frustrating for the investigative team and us and particularly frustrating for the family and friends of mollie. obviously nobody wants to find mollie more than these folks right here and we're included in that group. it is very frustrating, but it hasn't slowed our efforts. we have not slowed down at all
the investigative process and so we come to work every day with an attitude that we are going to find mollie today and we hope to be able to do that and report that to you soon. >> can you confirm there was foul play? >> i'm not going to confirm anything at this point related to the results of a lead or try and draw conclusions about what the investigation shows at this time. >> [inaudible question]. >> i don't have that number. it would be in the hundreds. >> can you say how many police officers are working the case? >> i believe we reported previously. not just state police but investigators from the f.b.i. and division of criminal investigation there are on average 30 to 40 working this case a day. >> briefly explain how this information might compromise -- a lot of people think if you gave us more we could help you. >> it's part of our evaluation process, we consider that and so there are parts of any
investigation that we hold very closely for good reason. so we are constantly evaluating that process as well as to what information we should release and what information we shouldn't. at this point we don't believe it's the appropriate time to do so. you know, it's a delicate balance with this information but we believe this is the right approach and we'll stay this approach. we recognize it is frustrating for everyone involved but we believe it gives us the best opportunity to resolve this investigation >> [inaudible question]. >> i couldn't hear your question. >> [inaudible question]. >> it's important because it continues to let us get to know mollie. particularly people who know mollie or have seen mollie or
talked to mollie in the days leading up to her disappearance. if people have that type of information that we haven't talked to yet we would encourage them to call us. you know, as the sheriff said, if somebody thinks they've seen mollie right away they need to call 911 or call local law enforcement to generate an immediate response to wherever that location is that the sighting occurred. information like you are talking about. people that may have known mollie to come forward and provide a piece of information can use the tip line to do that. if they believe they know the immediate whereabouts of mollie they need to call 911 or local law enforcement no matter where they may be in the country. >> can you confirm law enforcement searched a pig farm around the vicinity of brooklyn, iowa? and if you did, have you had to return to that pig farm? my final question is, have you
had any of the suspect take a polygraph >> i can't speak to the specifics of that. i won't speak to what we have or have not asked any people to do in regards to this investigation. >> bill: interesting. the iowa department of public safety. a lot of probing questions, not a lot of answers at the moments. unfortunately we have not yet found molly, quote. >> sandra: they show up to work every day in hopes of finding her. they are frustrated. we're all frustrated. leads are a good thing. all leads are important. the investigation has not slowed down at all. tips from outside should be reported to local authorities. they are desperately continuing this search for mollie tibbetts. >> bill: as we look for clues and hints how they answer the questions sometimes it leads you in a certain direction or watching it where you are today. the questions repeatedly about
suspects and side stepping the questions. it is a careful dodge. you really wonder what's going on inside the investigation. very little information gone public about the specifics of the case shared with family members. the next press conference tuesday of next week. >> sandra: there was absolutely -- >> bill: four days from now. >> sandra: no comment as far as suspects or persons of interest. her father is now speaking. he is desperately asking for all the leads. anybody who has possibly seen her to call in. >> bill: if the story changes we'll get you back there. in a minute, a booming economy across the country. unemployment 3.9%. we saw that number 18 years ago.
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last hour. >> these are significant numbers. our economic fundamentals are strong. there is no question that because of president trump's leadership, his vision in terms of pushing forward economic policies like tax cuts and tax reform, in addition to his deregulatory agenda is working. >> bill: that from last hour. john roberts this hour from the north lawn. good morning. >> good morning. no question the economy is doing well. the jobs report not quite what was expected. the white house putting its best spin on it. economists expected that the economy would create in the month of july between 190 and 195,000 jobs. the actual number was 157,000. the numbers for may and june were revised upwards. the three-month average was 224,000 jobs. the chief economic advisor larry kudlow saying things are much better than the raw number
for july would suggest and the forecast for economic growth is good. listen here. >> we're really at a high plateau. the day-to-day manufacturing was strong, professional services, unemployment went down. a very nice report. the gdp preliminary is predicting 5% with q3. i would be happy with 3. we're off to a good start. >> if the gdp hit 5% for a quarter it would be something. the unemployment number dropping to 3.9, two tenths off a historic 50-year low set back in 1969. good news and bad news on wage growth. the bad news is wage growth was 2.7% year-over-year. there wasn't any movement there. the good news is it's below the 3% threshold that might trigger aggressive action in raising interest rates by the fed. there is something for a lot of people in this.
>> bill: president continues to go after the russia investigation and the media as well. saw him on stage last night in pennsylvania, john. >> of course, all this stems to earlier this week where the president created a lot of headlines by going further than he has before in saying the attorney general, jeff sessions should shut down the russia investigation. the president went off on the russia investigation last night saying it's a hindrance to bettering relations with russia. also taking off on the media again for its reporting of the helsinki summit between the president and vladimir putin. listen here? >> president trump: we're being hindered by the russian hoax. it is a hoax. i got along great with putin. and everybody said wow, that was great. a couple hours later i started hearing these reports that they wanted me to walk up to the podium. they wanted me to walk up and
go like this -- they wanted me to go up and have a boxing match. >> the president slamming coverage of his meeting with the queen from that same trip. it had been reported he was late for the visit and they only talked for a few minutes. he said he was 15 minutes early and they had a lovely chat for about an hour, bill. >> bill: john roberts from the north lawn. >> president trump: i would personally prefer before but whether it's before or after, we're either getting it or we're closing down government. we need border security. we need border security. [applause] >> sandra: president trump repeating his commitment to build that wall even if he needs to shut down the government to get the money for it. joining me now chris wallace. good morning to you. is this a good idea? what do you think about this? doubling down on this call.
>> well, yes, but he didn't make it clear whether he is talking about a shutdown before or after the election. that's the key. the president -- it's been interesting to watch his stream of consciousness. he has been very open in the various arguments for and against this. he thinks one, it's a good issue and bring out the base. he also things -- that means doing it before the election around september 30th when the government would run out of money. and he also thinks that it will put more pressure on democrats because it will be a big issue and they will be asked about it. on the other hand there are an awful lot of the republicans -- he is not on the ballot in november. it's congressional republicans in senates and house on the ballot. they think it's a terrible idea. given the threats that he will be blamed and seen as the person who led to the shutdown of the government and generally speaking, in the polls you see that the american public does not like the idea of a shutdown
and tends to blame the person they hold responsible for the shutdown. so there is a great nervousness on the part of republicans. not so upset about the idea of a shutdown after the mid-terms. maybe in a lame duck session but they don't want to see it before the mid-terms where they think it will create a backlash against them. >> sandra: he said a lot of great republicans are pointing to the strength of the economy and tout that and go off that for the mid-terms. he said he didn't want to complicate what voters are seeing ahead of the mid-terms. he said i understand it. i'm a little torn myself. but clearly he still sees this, chris, as the winning strategy and last hour -- earlier in the show we had on the president of the national border patrol council brandon judd and he, too, supports a shutdown. listen. >> i would 100% support a shutdown. i'm a federal employee.
it will affect me and my family. but without border security we just don't have the safety and security. when i was a little kid growing up my parents had no problem letting me walk a mile away to go to the park. today parents just don't let that happen because they're too worried about crime in the united states. >> sandra: support there for sure. chris. >> well, i think to a certain degree and you are exactly right. the president has been kind of in a stream of consciousness way arguing both sides of it. the arguments that he feels that maybe before the election the arguments of a lot of his colleagues who would be on the ballot maybe after the election and perhaps he is trying to have a best of both worlds. raising the issue, getting his base excited and upset about the issue of border security and he is for closed borders and tough border security and claims the democrats are not. if he can have the argument without actually shutting down the government that would be
the best of both worlds for him and for republicans. >> sandra: the president saying we're about to get really nasty over the wall. so we'll see where all this goes. chris wallace, we'll see you this weekend? >> let's make a date, yeah. >> sandra: "fox news sunday" chris wallace. he will have an exclusive interview with marco rubio and cody wilson, the director of the 3d gun blueprint company defense distributed. check this out. it has been in the news all week and everybody is watching this story. "fox news sunday" chris wallace. check your local listings for times. >> bill: north korea sending the possible remains of american soldiers to the u.s. this week and now we're learning more about what else could be in some of those cases and what they contain. dan springer is on the story. >> the long process of identifying the remains handed over by north korea last week
has begun and there are some items that were mixed in with the bones of the fallen soldiers that can help in the investigation. the most obvious is one dog tag. it will be given to the two sons of that soldier next week. there has to be more testing done to determine if the remains of that soldier are also home. the boxes from north korea also contain two helmets, several canteens, dozens of buttons, boots, socks and a pair of fingerless gloves. all these items are solid evidence that they will be the remains of some of the 7600 u.s. servicemen killed during the korean war still listed as missing. it is just the beginning. the defense accounting agency will have a team of experts including historians and forensic anthropologists working an making positive identifications. it took 65 years to get the remains the north koreans did help during the handover. >> giving us ideas of where the
remains are from. a basic village level location which does help us because we then tie that to our analysis of battlefield losses. that does help in our identification process. >> and dna is used to determine identity in 60% of the cases solved by the dpaa which last year solved 201 cases. >> bill: how long does the identification process take? >> the answers don't come quickly unless they can take that dog tag and make a match between that soldier's family dna sample on file and a piece of dna taken from the bones in the transfer cases. it could take around a month. for most of the remains it will take much longer even years in some cases. the science is amazing. they can determine a lot just from the examination of the bones such as height, which region of the world they're from and if they have a
shoulder bone. they used to check for tuberculosis in the screening process so the service has a lot of that on file. >> sandra: torrential rain leaving a dam on the brink of collapse threatening to drown a u.s. city in minutes. more rain is on the way. we'll have the latest. >> bill: president trump hitting on a wide range of topics last night. our next guest says for the mid-terms republicans should focus on only one topic. >> more than 4 million americans will receive job training under our new workforce initiative. manufacturing, consumer and business confidence has reached the highest level in the history of our country. i would say that's pretty good. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast-acting, long-lasting relief, try doctor recommended gaviscon. it quickly neutralizes stomach acid
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we're respected again. we're respected again. our economy is soaring, our jobs are booming, factories are pouring back into our country. they're coming from all over the world. >> sandra: president trump last night at a rally in pennsylvania touting the economy. the labor department say employees added 157,000 jobs in july with the jobless rate dipping to 3.9%. our next guest has advice for republicans. run on the president's biggest accomplishment, the economy. this is daniel hoffman from the "wall street journal." we noticed the drop in the unemployment rate, the fact it's the lowest it's been in nearly two decades. why don't republicans just stick to this message? >> because a lot of strategists exhort them to run on the
entire trump agenda. let's set the scene. president trump is out at the campaign rallies for one reason. he wants to hold the house of representatives. if the house turns democratic the trump presidency turns into a pumpkin. the democrats need to pick up a net 23 seats to gain control of the house. there are between 20 and 25 republican seats that are on the bubble where they will win or lose by 2 or 3 points. if you're in a strong conservative seat and 20 points ahead you can run on anything. but these republicans who are in tight, tight races have to focus on simplicity and clarity. the idea of running on all these things the president talks about, shutting down the government, not shutting down the government. inviting vladimir putin come, not inviting vladimir putin. only donald trump can run on all that. >> sandra: that's what you write about your piece. the gop hall of mirrors, a
message, run on his biggest victory. you write this, the reality during the obama years was people were losing hope. mr. obama's constant speeches about a job that pays the bills and a chance to get ahead were just speeches. >> we had less than 2% growth for eight years. people were losing hope. there was only one candidate who was able to translate this, i think, into words that people could relate to and that was the guy who said make america great again. look, you can say the phrase economic growth all you want, unemployment statistics but candidates have to relate a real economy to real people and what they have done in the last 18 months going from that lack of hope in the obama years to every article, every other article in the "wall street journal" tight labor market. teenagers being hired for good jobs is an extraordinary achievement. if i'm a republican in a tough race i'll talk to people about that. and the alternative.
>> sandra: he is threatening to shut down the government over the border wall and some great republicans are doing don't distract from the economic message as you are writing about it. something else you point out fascinating to think about as we sit in august 2018, dan. you look back to january 2013, 5 1/2 years ago, the unemployment rate was at 8%. for black americans nearly 14%. we have come a far way. >> black and hispanic unemployment now is at the lowest record recorded in the last 30 years. as the head of the federal reserve said pretty much everyone who wants to work now can find a job. that i think is what republicans have to hammer over and over again. you have got an economy that works for everybody. your children have jobs, the people you know have jobs, let's keep it that way. >> sandra: a lot of vacant jobs that can't find people and hearing a lot about closing the
skills gap. dan henninger from the "wall street journal." thanks. >> bill: president trump targeting bernie sanders last night in pennsylvania. >> president trump: you have to hand it to bernie, i saw him up there the other day, that hair is getting whiter and whiter and he is getting crazier and crazier. you have to hand it to that guy. he doesn't quit. >> bill: the president calling out liberal democrats and socialists as he promises to keep up the pressure on congress for the border wall. anthony scaramucci is live today. we'll talk to him coming up in moments. tion right now
>> that press conference just wrapped up. no new information. these press conferences have become highly anticipated because outside of them police aren't answering any questions, questions from the media or people of the public. people gather around and get ready for the press conferences, maybe a break or a lead or arrest and then nothing. there is a growing sense of frustration and concern. people in the community saying perhaps you can give us a description of a suspect. perhaps you can point us in the right direction and we can help you. today police acknowledged the frustration say they feel that right now they're taking the right approach. constantly assessing whether they can release any new information to be public. that hasn't happened so far. one of the lead investigators explaining the latest on this investigation. >> it's frustrating for everybody. it's frustrating for the investigative team and us and particularly frustrating for the family and friends of mollie. so nobody wants to find mollie more than these folks right
here. >> police say are taking in hundreds of tips a day. encouraging the sharing of information on social media but are warning people there are rumors out there. they say the investigation has not slowed down. as of this morning no arrests and no named suspects in the missing case of mollie tibbetts, bill. >> bill: thank you, matt. matt finn back on the case in iowa today. >> sandra: another big day in court as prosecutors in the paul manafort trial get ready to call their star witness. >> bill: a full-court press from the white house on russian election meddling. how u.s. intel officials are fighting the threat just about 95 days before the mid-terms. >> our focus here today is simply to tell the american people we acknowledge the threat, it is real, it is continuing, and we're doing everything we can to have a legitimate election that the
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>> sandra: fox news alert. president trump's former campaign manager paul manafort back in court at this hour for day four of his trial as we await and see whether today is d-day that prosecutors call their star witness rick gates to testify against his former business partner. peter doocy is live for us this morning. >> right now paul manafort's accountant is on the stand. this accountant is testifying that he once had to email man fort because he didn't know where a million dollars of income came. they say it was a loan disguised as income which would affect the return and make it illegal. the accountant also says he
emailed paul manafort multiple times asking if he and his wife had any foreign accounts or income and he said they said no. they are saying he was hiding money from the irs and use as a fund to wire to luxury retailers. tax returns have been presented as evidence. on every one manafort checked he didn't have any foreign income and signed his name under penalty of perjury he was telling the truth. some of those returns from a few years ago do show manafort business taking losses which is consistent with what his bookkeeper testified yesterday. there was a time paul manafort started to have a difficulty paying bills. this is the fourth day of the manafort trial and the focus the whole time continues to be exclusively on allegations of financial crime. there is no talk about russian collusion or president trump even though the evidence against manafort was found by
investigators charged with rooting out russian interference in the election. it is a very slow and deliberate process using a slide show of multiple years, dozens of lines of these tax returns and when the judge t.s. ellis thinks it's going too slowly, he does tell the mueller team to hurry it up. >> sandra: peter doocy, what a week it has been, thank you. >> russia attempted to interfere with the last election and continues to engage in malign influence operations to this day. >> our democracy itself is in the cross hairs. free and fair elections are the cornerstone of our democracy. >> bill: detailing efforts to stop the meddling. the threat is ongoing. not as intense in 2016 but they're watching it. fox news contributor daniel hoffman with me now.
good to see you again and good morning to you. what did you think of the message from the podium yesterday? >> i thought it was excellent. it was a very stark delivery of indications and warning to the american people. it is really important we understand what the threat is emanating from russia. we're under the kremlin siege. it is important that the government take steps and inform us about those steps to deter and defend us and then counter russia's aggression. >> bill: to counter you break it down in three components, right? deterrence, defend, and counter. what's that all about? >> on the deterrent side, that's about in my view the president delivering that stark warning to vladimir putin that if russia continues to meddle and interfere -- i prefer to use the word interfere in our elections we'll take action. this president is known for drawing a red line and following through as he did in syria. we're the aggrieved party and we need to demonstrate to the russians we're serious about taking action.
>> bill: here is dan coats. he was in the room. play a clip. >> relative to what we have seen for the mid-term elections, it is not the kind of robust campaign that we assessed in 2016 election. we know that through decades russia has tried to use this propaganda and methods to sew discord in america. however, they stepped up their game big time in 2016. we have not seen that kind of robust effort from them so far. >> bill: why would that be? do you have an answer? >> first, that's really important information for us. i can tell you from my experience the intelligence community plays an important role in providing critical information about indications and warning of this threat to the consumers in our government starting with the department of homeland security who can then work with those at greatest
risk, first the voting installations and then the party committees as well as social networking and media sites. the thing that i would say is the russians are mounting serious operations against us, maybe a little less than we saw in 2016 because it was a presidential election but it is still at a high level and great concern to us. >> bill: okay. putin loves this stuff, doesn't he? we're talking about russia all day long. turn on every tv channel, it's all about russia. to that extent, daniel, he has won. >> yeah, he has won. it is a little counterintuitive. when ambassador bolton says this attack on us was an act of war, vladimir putin likes that. it helps his regime security. as if he is at war with the west and everything we stand for, our liberty, freedom and democracy. i would say if we are at war we're supposed to bring down destruction on enemy combatants.
i listened to the potential for countering russia's attacks on us at the point of attack inside russia. that's something we need to be thinking about it. might be reprovided a warning to the russians privately in our intelligence channels we plan on doing that. i hope we have the ability and intention to use it. >> bill: to be continued. thank you for your comments today. >> sandra: fox news alert there are protests along the israel/gaza border happening right now amid reports the two sides could be close to a cease-fire. that is where david lee miller is at this hour. >> sandra, it's about 6:35 in the evening. for the last two hours a massive demonstration has been taking place behind me along the israeli/gaza border. take a look at this hour and you can see the thick billowy black smoke that has been used to obscure the activities of some of the demonstrators. the israeli military is on the
scene. on occasion they have fired in the last few hours live ammunition at some of the demonstrators. as many as 25 of the protestors have been wounded. some we're told by some of the live ammunition. we saw at least one kite that was flying overhead. these flights are insendary devices to try to set fire to israeli agricultural land and forest. they have caused millions of dollars in damage. in total since these demonstrations got underway at the end of march, at least 155 palestinians have been killed. in the last couple of weeks at least one israeli soldier was killed by sniper fire. all this unfolding while simultaneously in gaza now high-ranking leaders of hamas are meeting to try and come to some agreement being brokered with the help of the egyptians to try to end these weekly demonstrations that have been happening now since march
following friday prayers for the last several months. so far no word on the progress of those talks. but if they do succeed, these regular demonstrations will come to a halt and in exchange israel might agree to open up the gaza strip allowing more products to come in and increase the flow of electricity. this is a negotiation that is still in progress and once again, on another friday, we see more violence along the israeli/gaza border. back to you. >> bill: president trump blasting a potential opponent in the 2020 election. >> so i don't know who i'll run against. bernie tells how wonderful things are. he wants to raise your taxes, he wants to create massive amounts of crime and wants to open your borders. >> bill: he is touting a possible stand off on government funding for the
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i looked at my wife and i said you have to hand it to that guy, he doesn't quit. that's okay. crazy bernie. he is one crazy dude. >> sandra: president trump very directly calling out bernie sanders and other democrats during his rally in pennsylvania last night. the president calling the democrats obstructionists. anthony scaramucci is former white house communications director. he joins us now. what were you thinking, anthony, as you were watching the president there? >> my dad's hometown. and he had the entire town turn out. that's him. that's what makes him him and why he will win reelection. he is off the cuff. very present in the conversations and doesn't want to let you know this, he is analyzing everybody on that field and looking for their weaknesses and he is going to surgically strike when necessary once he figures out who the competition is. >> sandra: he went further
calling out bernie sanders and other potential opponents coming up. watch this. >> president trump: let's say i'm running against pocahontas or crazy bernie. he wants to raise your taxes and create massive amounts of crime. he wants to open your borders. when he goes out and i say one thing african-american, hispanic, asian, you have the lowest level of unemployment in the history of our country. how does somebody fight that? >> sandra: he actually went as far as to be so funny to say maybe i should be against the wall. then democrats will be for it. >> i've heard him say that privately. let me pick two or three things senator schumer likes and i'll say i'm for them and they'll get stopped. he is cataloging who he thinks his adversaries are. because of his policies, because of the strengthening at the border, the minority
unemployment situation has improved dramatically. you see wage growth and printing gdp numbers in the 4s. if you stay in the 3 1/2, 4 zone. it's not a forecast. i think it will be bumpy but the president's policies can sustain north of 3. a 3% gdp growth doubles the size of the economy in 18 years and resolves so many of our entitlement problems, social security and medicare issue. the president is focused on growth and evening out the employment situation as it relates to wages, pressing wages up in the lower and middle class families is going to lead him to -- >> sandra: the report this morning, some economists are using it as a reason to say missed expectations, jobs growth number wasn't as big as anticipated. >> that's why i'm saying it is going ton -- everybody is trained as an economist knows
it isn't a 45* upward. we have to be very careful on the trade stuff. i understand where the president wants to go and right on the macro. but let's figure out a way to work with our allies, get the tariffs to where he wants them. reduced tariffs on both sides and work alongside our chinese competitors, if you will, to see if we can growing all our economies together and make the numbers better. >> sandra: dan henninger wrote this big piece about republicans focus on the economy. president trump focus on the economy. your biggest victory, focus on that. we see the president focusing on his border wall. he is threatening to shut down the government ahead of mid-terms on that. do you agree with the president's strategy there? he says we're about to get really nasty over the wall. >> i think what he is frustrated? it works for him. he is super frustrated that he is calling for the wall.
he has been calling for the wall as number one campaign promise. people want to strengthen the border. people flood across the border and participate in the welfare state in a way that it misall indicates the system. you will have a welfare state, which we do, you need a strong border otherwise free market forceers dictate that people will come across the border. i do believe, you have to give the president credit. tightening at the border has taken the slack out of the economic situation on the employment side for the african-american and hispanic american families. the guy has been resoundingly successful. he could probably dial back and be more strategic tweeting. dial back on -- i think he is now in a position where he has a tremendous amount of allies out there and media surrogates pushing his agenda. guys like bill shine will help him get the agenda out there more aggressively. let's play nicer with the press
and we'll be in much better shape. the approval ratings should be north of 50. let's get a peace pipe out there and smoke it a little bit. tobacco smoke. we haven't made cannabis legal. i'm not allowed to be on before greg gutfeld. he is writing down jokes now. i'm calling my agent. >> sandra: good to have you. i hope you don't cross paths in the highway. get ready, bill. >> bill: harris and lisa a quick preview of "outnumbered." >> one of my friends who stays ready so he doesn't have to get ready. that's what i know about bill hemmer. july jobs report is out today as you may know showing unemployment hovering around a 50-year low with upward revisions for jobs added in may and june, this as china is threatening more retaliation if the white house goes through with new proposed tariffs. whether the president can bend
beijing to his will when it comes to trade. we'll talk about it. >> see about that and the president is not letting up on the media. he says fake news is the enemy and asks whatever happened to honest reporting? who is winning, who is losing? >> in the center seat a lucky guy for now, bill hemmer. >> bill: say hello to him. have a great weekend. she had a shocker of a primary. alexandria ocasio-cortez hitting the road spreading her socialist message in california. will it pay off? greg gutfeld has a few thoughts about his home state.
ocasio-cortez riding the wave of a stunning victory over a long time democrat is in california this week. my next guest is greg gutfeld. how are you, sir? >> i'm doing great. >> bill: we're hawking books for you, brother. you deserve it. you went to school in berkeley. you're from california. she is out there pitching for votes and trying to raise money. >> exactly. it's less about her and more about this disturbing message that how many people under 30 and 40 know so little about the legacy of socialism and the suffering it's caused. it is an interesting contrast. when you look at her, she is charming, young and has a future. what she is selling is the opposite. socialism is grim, it's old, and it offers you no tomorrow. even bernie is likable but the message he offers is not likable. what infuriates me more about california and new york city.
they flourish because of liberals that got rich an capitalism. it got them to the point where they can put these horrible ideas on us. the inequality in california is insane. pelosi estate versus the tent cities. that's socialism. >> bill: i see what you did there. bernie is 70 something? >> he doesn't look a day over -- they are -- they seem fresh and innovative but their ideas are destructive and old. i guess you need a really good salesman to sell bad stuff. i don't -- i wouldn't mock her too much. she is going to get better. the more you mock somebody, the better they get. you learned with trump. >> bill: i don't think people realize you write all of your own stuff. every word. >> yes. >> bill: and i'm told when you
work out in the gym you carry a clipboard with you, because if you get an idea you write it down. >> i stand on the stair climber at the gym with this thing and i write all the ideas i have for the five for all the blocks and i write the monologue there and then i just keep writing because i hate exercising. >> bill: you are afraid of losing the idea once it leaves your mind and it is gone. >> nothing worse than having an idea, i have to remember that and it's gone and floating somewhere and you sit there. >> bill: you are aggravated because you can't bring it back. >> it driver's license -- drives me nuts. >> please stop you walking plank of repurposed wood. john kerry. it was the walking plank of wood that gave it away. >> bill: re purposed would.
perino, she is so small she could float on a cheese it. >> i reverse them. like a gum drop is dana's medicine ball where as with -- >> the book is out. gutfeld monologues. i added new information. more new than old. a pleasure. scaramucci's hair, you could ride on that wave. >> bill: he saw you coming a mile away. >> he has a new poof going. >> bill: we'll see you this weekend. >> sandra: good to have greg. good news for the economy. the white house claiming an economic victory over the strong monthly jobs report. what do these numbers mean for the economy moving forward? we'll be right back. to have new jumbo snow crab
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PresidentSandra-smithIvanka-trumpJobsWagesRallyRiseUnemployment-ratePennsylvania-last-nightHeels157000Economyandrea, it is great to see you, congratulations on 40 amazing years. >> it is great to work with you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon to all of you, i am kasie hunt in today for craig melvin. stop this. the president tells is attorney general to end the russia investigation in a string of tweets on the same day his form er campaign chairman's trail. >> the press briefing should start in about 15 minutes. we'll see how they respond to questions about this. plus, russian influence, hearing on capitol hill reveals russia's push to sway american voters went deeper than we thought. we all these talks, when do we see action to stop it? off message, the president says you need to buy an id to buy
groceries the day after his administration floats the idea of a huge tax cut for the rich. we start with president trump's twofold twitter attacks today demanding his attorney general end the special counsel investigation. he defended the target of one of the biggest indictment results in that probe. former campaign paul manafort. the white house press briefing in about 15 minutes. we are expecting sarah sanders to take the podium and answer questions about why the president wants to end the probe that secured five guilty pleas and dozens of indictments. let's start with our nbc news reporter peter alexander at the white house and ken dilanian following the manafort trial in virginia. ken, i want to start with you.
what is the white house and how are they pushing back, there is some new reporting from rudy giuliani and the president's attorneys talking about the meaning of the word "should"? >> reporter: that's exactly right. the white house is pushing back by directing reporters like myself to the outside counsel. i will be the reporter who goes in the room within the next 45 minutes and sarah sanders will be walking out here in about 15 minutes from now. here is what this all began with. it was in effect on extraordinary appeal, jeff sessions earlier on twitter. this is what president trump tweeted. we'll put it up on the screen. >> he says this is a terrible situation and attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country. bob mueller is totally conflicted and his 17 angry
democrats that are doing his dirty work are a disgrace to usa. >> "the washington post" heard from rudy giuliani and jay sekulow. sekulow telling "the post," the president did not have any order on this. we heard from rudy giuliani that it is established that the president uses his tweets to establish his opinions, he carefully uses the word "should." we reached out to the justice department as well and they are declining to comment. kas kasie. >> because we know the president is so exactly careful of which words he chooses to use. >> exactly. >> what did the president say about paul manafort? >> reporter: the president has been paying close attention to what's happening across the
river of that trial of this former campaign trying to distance himself in the past saying he was aman -- manafort campaign for five months. the president tweeted. looking back in history, who was treated worse, alfonse capone, legendary mob boss, killer public enemy number one. the bottom line of this president is he's frustrated on this. he thinks that he's being connected to the paul manafort's case that he knows all of these charges relate to actions. it is worth noting that the
president then kancandidate don trump knew manafort and he has known him for decades and manafort has lived at trump tower for a selected time. >> he did select him to go onto share his campaign without checking into that background. peter, thanks. >> ken dilanian tell us of the case. >> reporter: the jury has not told these prosecutors work for mueller. how extraordinary it is for the president of the united states to denounce his own justice department and fbi and unlawfully predicated criminal investigations over seen by his own appointee. we kind of got used to it from this president. as for the trial, it is so far from this political world in washington. right now kasie, we are deep in the world of men's fashion.
>> do you own an ostrich jacket? >> reporter: i do not. paul manafort does and the prosecution introduced some pictures of his closets at the condo from the fbi executed a search warrant and the next witness is the guy named matt katsman. the whole point is to show the jury paul manafort evaded taxes and spent money that was stocked in overseas bank accounts on these high end items and other evidence included land randolpher arandolp rover and $50,000 renovations on a couple of bathroom and property. the judge is constantly -- paul manafort is not on trial because he had a lavish style.
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order. i think that i would rather be on the prosecution on that particular piece of evidence in the same way that he said would means wouldn't. >> to that point aaron. she's right in the context of any one of us operating in a day-to-day life with somebody and not just your boss but kind of the commander in chief of the united states of america tells you to do something, how else are you supposed to take it? >> i keep on thinking if i got my boss came to me and said hey, you should write about this thing. i would not take that as an option. i think maybe i should go write that thing. i definitely should if i want to watch out for my job. so i think that the question though whether that rises to the legal standards just because it is meant to be interpreted as a command. i think that's the argument that the president's lawyers are going to make. >> matt miller, what's the
difference between the public and private version of this? one of the things that's interesting of the idea that mueller is going through the tweets. often times we don't necessarily -- the president's keeping something secret. in this case, it seems that the public statements itself are problematic. >> they are just as powerful evidence as anything he said in private. if the president is taking direct action to conceal something, for example, when he asked all his staff to leave the room so he can have a one on one conversation with james comey. he knew what he was doing is inappropriate. if he were to do a television interview and directly admit what he did, why he did it with lester holt when he said i fired james comey because of the russian investigation. that's powerful evidence against
him. just because he's stupid enough to do it publicly does not mean it is any less damaging. >> although there is the question of contra dridictions the president makes. >> the strategy, you say one thing and the other thing and it is totally contradictory and nobody know his state of mind. is he doing that because he's trying to play in his defense of the russian investigation or is he all over the place? i don't think anybody knows the answer to that question. we spend a large portion of our time in the media psychoanalyzing the president trying to figure out what he means. that's a game to an extent of the mueller investigation have to play, too. >> jill, do you see any store rhistoric parallels that we need to focus on? >> everyday is parallels.
we are getting a pretty powerful case where the pieces of evidence are coming to ring tog now. >> i am going to count on viewers to come up with a fake nixon's account. matt miller before we go, we should not lose site of the fact that he's telling jeff sessions to end this. >> of course, much of the president and much of his anger, we know he's angry about this. jeff sessions had no choice to recuse himself. it was not an optional act. it was written in regulation. the president does not care about that and he's asking sessions to violate the department of justice regulations and unrecuse himself and shut down the investigation into the president himself. that's powerful evidence of the president corrupting. >> it is only wednesday. >> aaron blake and ji
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. right now we are waiting for the press briefing to get started on a busy day at the white house. it was scheduled to start five minutes ago. fis first, after facebook revealed it uncovered operations similar to the one carried out in 2016. the senate questions digital and social media experts on influences of the elections. >> t not just by the government but also by those who ought to
understand these tools best. they're creators. >> nbc jo lynn kent is gjoining me now. >> jo, i want to start with you. have anything you have been monitori monitoring this morning, have anything stood out to you? have you learned anything new today? u.s. focus activities by the internet research agency out of russia spiked into mid of 2017. that's a new nugget. another thing we want to hit is talking about what we should be looking for going into the 2018 midterms. automated accounts as we have reported are payable to put out much more devices content faster than humans so want to discord in the upcoming election and the individuals have been testifying have said faster than 25 or 30
acts. they are organizing facebook users bideny identity and other background issues and we are talking about antimuslims or anti-lgbtq and looking at extreme issues that can be used in extreme ways. i want to share some sound from some of the folks who testifies who this goes beyond facebook and twitter. >> we spend a lot of time talking about facebook and twitter. as renee highlighted and others have noted, this is a problem of the entire information ecosystem. this is crossed platform and reddit confirms hundreds of created accounts and tumblr did it and that platform was used to target the african-american community. this is why it is so difficult to quantify in any meaningful way the reach of these activities. this is across the entire
ecosystem. >> so kasie, what we are seeing is a continued attempt of manipulation. facebook declined to say whether those problems, problematic pages or accounts came from russia or not. senator mark warner says it is kremlin's activities. there are a lot of voices weighing into this right now. the real center of the issue so far from this, one individual testifying saying extreme are screaming while the majority is whispering. it captures the sentiment of what we are learning today. >> derek, i want to show you something that senator susan collins said today just exactly what the united states are doing with the problem that jo lynn just laid out. >> no, i don't think the administration is focused enough on this issue. for one thing, we no longer have a cyber security expert at the
white house whose sole job is to focus on issues like this. that's a very porpt step that muy important step to take. >> it may be too late. >> big question is will russia intervene of the 2018 elections in the same way we know? the answer is they started to try. facebook shuts down over a dozen accounts. they found out certain profiles have been linked to the internet research agency, the ira have spent $11,000 on its platform. they essentially said help us work on this problem. you have facebook having this sort of realization that their platform is being used to so division and hate and disunity
of election year. >> you have the white house which is doing something completely different. trump meeting with putin and refusing to say anything to russia acted inappropriately. you have the president repusing often to investigate moving further on these issues. i think she's exactly right. you have this remarkable situation where the business and political community, at least large parts of it are united in their efforts to combat russian attempts to intervene in our elections and the president of the united states is not only refusing frankly to help them, he's actually purposefully trying to shut down an investigation, illegal investigations into the origins of these efforts. it is a shocking thing. >> jo, at this point, facebook is turning to our government
saying hey, can you help us get to the end of this and figure out the last mile of what is going on here, right? >> well, facebook is cooperating with the department of justice and fbi and other agencies in washington. the real issue is regulation and self-policing. these major tech companies are not capable of policing themselves and running a flat form that can promote real true tiff or just the basic truth. there is not a political will right now, at least on capital hill to place regulations on these companies or sort out what it may look like. they're saying if it is necessary, they see a lot of political will coming out from the senate and the house and you got the intel committee hearing coming up from the week of september where you will hear jack dorsey and we don't know if the google's ceo is going to accept his invitation.
those are critical moments that's coming up that we'll be watching closely if anything can be moving. that's september and the midterm is in november. >> coming up very, very quickly. nbc jo lynn kent and jared thompson. thank you very much. >> thanks. >> we are keep on watching the white house's brief pressing room. these briefings have become less and less frequent. there is quite a bit of ground to cover. the president in his element among his supporters, how he connects to the everyday man. his interesting take on what you have to do if you want to buy groceries. i'm ray and i quit smoking with chantix. i tried cold turkey, i tried the patch.
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>> the leader of north korea has followed through on his commitment to return the first set of remains of americans to our homeland. these brave souls deserve nothing but our honor and respect. the families of these soldiers have been waiting for more than 60 years for their loved ones to come home. we hope that as remains are identified, families like those of commander, can find peace. john was assigned to quad ron 125 and was killed. john's nephew wrote the president a letter explaining how his uncle was a special person who grew up in the great depression and wanted to serve his country. another letter from mary telling the president how her uncle have been missing. she has a picture of her uncle hanging in the living room as a
reminder of the servihis servic country. the president is committed to them and will work to bring them the closure they deserve. we have seen alarming images of the wildfires causing severe damage out west. the white house and fema have been monitoring the wildfires to ensure federal assistance are provided as quickly as possible. as a result, fema has placed resources from eight different federal departments and agencies to support the efforts of local firefighters and relief organizations. the president will continue to monitor this ongoing emergency and make sure the people of california receive the assistance they need to keep them safe and recovered. our prayers are with the firefighters who recently lost here lives battling these fires and their grieving families. the president have been closely
following in turkey involving the pastor. pastor brunson, we have seen no evidence that he has done anything wrong. we believed he's a victim unfair by the government of the turkey. the department of treasury is sanctioning turkey's minister of justice. both of whom played leading roles of pastor brunson. as a result, any property or interests in property of both ministers within u.s. jurisdictions is blocked. for anything further, i would refer you to the treasury department on that front. with that, i will take your questions. >> we would appreciate if you can give us more -- one of those turns out of the president's
tweets this morning about the russia's direction of sessions asking to end the mueller's pro probe right now. it is not an order, it is the president's opinion. it is ridiculous that all of the corruption and dishonesty that's gone on with the launching of the witch hunt, the president has watched this process play out. we look for that happening. >> you mentioned that the transfer of these remains. there is a report yesterday that north korea is still assembling icbms that it is not yet possible to verify remains. how did that meet some of the
tests that north korea is fulfilling its commitment. >> i am not going to comment on the first part of your question in. in terms of the remains, we have the best of the best that have been working over the last several weeks on this process. we'll keep you updated on this. we feel comfortable in the assessment that they made up up until the point. john. >> sarah, on the tariffs proposed against china, the figure for tariffs was 10%. the president wants to take it up to 25%. what's the reason behind increasing from 10% to 25% and in a tic-for-tat. > >> who has more bullets? china or the united states? >> we'll have an update later today and there will be a call at 3:30 this afternoon to
walkthru the walk through the details o f that update. the bottom line is the president is going to continue to hold china responsible for their unfair trade practices. this is gone on for long enough and he's going to do something about it. >> does the president believe that -- the president have made some head waves with the e.u. in terms of taking steps and leveling the plain field . does the president's team believe that's possible with china without some punitive measures. >> we would like to see the plain field levelled, the president as both he and i think about 15 members of his administration have said repeatedly we like to see the unfair trade practices. until that happens, the president is going hold their feet on the fire. he'll don't put pressure on china. he's not going to sit back and
allow american industry and workers to be talkken of. >> jay. evangelicals have been up? arms of last year's tax law, there is a provision in there that forced them to pay 21% of federal income tax. can i assure that they don't have to pay a new tax? >> i am not going to make a blanket generalization. the reform package was to provide the greatest amount of relief to the greatest number of americans and we feel that it has done that. we feel that the other policies that the president has put forward when it comes to the economy have move to the balfour ward and making our economy stronger than it has been in decades. i think you can see that by all of the numbers that have come out over the last year and a half. >> hunter. >> thank you, sarah.
what does the president prepare to do to make sure they keep their tax exemption? >> certainly something that we are looking into but i don't have anything specific. >> any threatening letter or communication aimed a aat -- rudy giuliani issued a statement saying he does not think this morning's tweet is obstruction because the president says sessions should stop the mueller probe. what i want to know is rudy giuliani the one giving the president legal advice on his tweets and does that statement reflect the opinions of the president's legal team. >> the president is not obstructing. he's fighting back and stating it clearly and expressing the frustration that he has with the level of corruption that we have seen from people like jim comey and peter strzok and andrew mccabe.
there is no reason he should not be able to voice that opinion. margar margaret? >> tesla plans to spend $5 billion to build a plant in china. certainly we love to see all american companies investing here and i don't have anything specific on tesla but we would encourage all companies to build their plants in america and put their investments here and not engage and help bolster like china that continues to be apart of of a very unfair process and very unfair trading practices. john. >> thanks a lot sarah. there was reaction to the president's tweets today from some of his allies on capitol
hill. republican senator hatch says i don't get what he's trying to do and another senator says the mueller investigation needs to move forward and let them complete their work. >> it needs to be completed and not cut-off. >> we would like for it to be completed sooner than later. it has gone on for an extensive amount of time and they still come up with nothing regards to the president. we said it for a number of time. so we agree on that front. sylvia. >> we are tight on time because the president is going to be speaking. >> sorry, john. just because we are tight on time, i will try to get to as many as possible. >> even if there are ten people that are voting illegally, it should not happen. the president wants to see the
integrity of our election system upheld and that's the purpose of his comment. he wants to make sure everybody that's voteing should be voting. it should be celebrated and not discriminated. [ inaudible question ] >> i never had to show an id when i go to the grocery store. >> if you go to a grocery store, if you buy beer and wine, you are going to certainly show your id. >> he's not saying every time he went in, he is saying when you go to the grocery store, i am sure everybody in here who's been to a grocery store that purchased beer or wine probably had to show their id. if they did not then there is a problem with the grocery store. >> major go ahead. >> you wanted the investigation to end and also without any
obstruction meaning without any interference. many described the tweets this morning as blowing off steam. it is just an opinion that he's throwing out there and had nothing to do of his control of the -- >> the president is stating his opinion. it is crystal clear how he feels of this investigation from the beginning. >> sarah. >> you said a moment ago, the investigation itself is corrupt. the mueller investigation and you mentioned comey and mccabe and strzok. >> it was paid for by an opposing campaign and had a lot of corruption within the entity which was overseeing which was peter strzok and james comey and andr andrew mccabe, we laid it out a number of time. >> if it is corrupt, why
diplomat the president just end it? >> the president is allowed this? >> the president has allowed this process to play out but he thinks it is time for it to come to an end >> sarah, go ahead. >> thank you, sarah. >> i want wondering if you can clarify this tweet from this morning. is it the president's desire for sessions to unrecuse himself in the probe and is it his desire for the special counsel to be fired. >> i think i have clarified this ten times. it is the president's opinion, i don't have anything further. steve. >> last night at the rally, the president again pushed for creation of a space force of a new military branch. the defense department missed the deadline, we are told that the white house twice rejected drafts because of the defense department does not want a space force. how is the president going to
force the creation of a space force? >> we are continuing to work with the department of defense to figure out and determine the best way forward, something that the president feels strongly about and we'll work with our team there and figure out the best solution. >> i have a question about the president meeting with inner city pastors. secretary carlson have pushed policies raised on poor people and antiimmigration initiatives. what is the president going to say to these inner city pastors who may be hurt with these policies. >> hearing their concerns. i know the primary point of discussion for today is to discuss prison reform. i would not be surprised if they raise those issues. that's why the president invited them here so he could have those ongoing conversations and determine the best. >> i am sor practicalthose poli
on people, are they helping inner cities? >> i would have to look at the cities, i would be happy to do that after the briefing. >> i am told it is under discussion for cuts as low as 25,000 next year. does the president feel that this country admits too many refugees and what is the proper level is and what is the rational - >> this is part an ongoing discussion and no policy decisions have been made but we'll keep you posted. >> i am sorry? >> does the president think there are too many refugees coming into the country. >> the president wants to make sure who comes to the country, who they are. they pose no danger or threats to tamericans. we want to make sure we have the processes in place and the ability to vet any individual that would come into this country if the department of homeland security and other
agencies that they would work in coordination with, determine that they don't have the ability to vet a certain number then certainly the president would have concerns with that. the number one priority is national security and making sure we have the ability to properly vet and process any individuals that come into this country. >> jeff. >> sarah, you said the president wants this investigation to be completed. he has not made the decision to sit down with bob mueller. is he apart of dragging this out? when he tells you something personally, do you take it as a directive or as his opinion? >> on the first part, i would refer you to the president's outside counsel and the second part, sorry -- >> when he tells you something as a member of the staff, how do you know if it is a directive or an opinion. >> the president makes it clear when i am having the conversation with him. >> the tweet this morning said that he wanted to -- it is time
for the investigation to be stopped. >> did the president know that the president can't stop the investigation? >> the president is aware of how the process works. he's stating his opinion once again. >> david. >> has he spoken to the nra about this? >> the department of justice made a deal without the president's approval. the president is glad this effort is delayed to give more time to reveal the issue. >> steve. >> the case of the pastor in turkey. >> are you talking about the i am practiisonment of pastor bru? >> is he upset about it? >> i think you can see in the actions of the president has made today that he's not happy
of turkey's decision not to release erdogan. >> does the president support the possibility of taxed, and te possibility of a shutdown, is the president talking about endorsing a government shutdown before november's elections, after november's elections, or both? >> on the first part of your question, this is something that has a lot of support from various people. no administration policy has been determined. the president asked the treasury department to look into it. on the second part of your question in regards to the shutdown, the president isn't focused on the timing of before or after the election. he is focused on the results. he has been talking about this for a year and a half. our immigration system is completely broken and he is begging and has been for congress, particularly democrats in congress, to step up, do their jobs, stop kicking the ball down the field, and actually work with him to fix our system. it's that simple.
>> reporter: does the president have a personal opinion as to whether or not the current system works or should be changed? >> he asked the treasury department to look into it. david. >> reporter: thank you. last night in tampa, does the president encourage the support of people who showed up in these qanon and blacks for trump fringe groups? secondly, is the white house willing to say right now in view of what happened with one of our t.d. colleagues last night that it is wrong for his most vocal supporters to be menacing towards journalists doing their jobs? >> on the first part, the president condemns and denounces any group that would insight violence against another individual. certainly he doesn't support groups that would promote that type of behavior. we have been clear about that a number of times since the beginning of the administration. on the second part of your question, the president, as i just said, does not support
violence against anyone or anything, and we have been very clear every single time we have been asked about that. when it comes to the media, the president does think that the media holds a responsibility. we fully support a free press, but there comes a high level of responsibility with that. the media routinely reports on classified information and government secrets that put lives in danger and risk valuable national security tools. this has happened in our administration and in past administrations. one of the worst cases was the reporting on the u.s. ability to listen to osama bin laden's satellite phone in the late '90s. he stopped using that phone and the country lost valuable intelligence. unfortunately, it's standard to abandon common sense ethical practices. we condemn violence against anybody, but we ask that people act responsibly and report accurately and fairly. >> sarah -- >>. >> reporter: they were trying to
prevent a broadcaster from getting his broadcast out and yelling that his network sucks. is that right or wrong? >> what was the first part of your question? >> reporter: no one was being violent in terms of hitting anybody and no broadcaster was broadcasting state secrets. they were trying to do stand-ups at a public rally, and people were trying to yell over them preventing them from doing their jobs and yelling their network sucks on live tv. do you support that or not? >> we support freedom of the press and freedom of speech. we think that goes hand in hand. ayesha. >> reporter: talking about the tweets earlier, president trump tweeted about manafort and comparing his treatment to that of capone. he seems to be saying being treated unfairly. does the president feel like paul manafort is being treated unfairly? when he talked about this issue of solitary confinement and the fact that manafort hasn't been convicted yet, does this
administration have a larger concern about solitary confinement being used for people who haven't been convicted outside of paul manafort? >> i am not aware of a specific policy position that the administration holds on that front. certainly the president's been clear. he thinks paul manafort has been treated unfairly. steve. >> reporter: i'll take it. two questions. can you confirm if the president has accepted the invitation from the prime minister to be the special guest? >> i know that the invitation has been extended. i don't believe a final decision has been made. i do know that both secretary mattis and secretary pompeo will be traveling to india, i believe it's next month, and will begin the dialogue and the process and potential discussion for a presidential visit later in the year.
>> reporter: a historic election, and mr. kahn, he ran on a corruption election in pakistan. he had very little to say good things about india, u.s., but he is the prime minister of pakistan today. how you are going to deal with him? >> the united states -- >> reporter: u.s./pakistan relations? >> certainly the united states and india have a deep and abiding strategic partnership and we are going to continue to build on that partnership and advanced cooperation. i think you will see that at the meeting that will take place with secretaries pompeo and mattis next month. >> reporter: does the president believe paul manafort is innocent of the charges he faces? >> i don't believe that's the president's role to play. he believes he is being treated unfairly. >> reporter: the views of the president saying that attorney general jeff sessions should stopped this rigged witch hunt right now. has the president said that directly to jeff sessions at any
point? >> i am not aware of the president state his opinion. one last question. >> reporter: at any point to rod rosenstein? >> not that i am aware of. >> reporter: a to a t on to that. it's his opinion that the mueller probe should play itself out? >> the president believes that he's watched this process, frankly, play out. he'd like to see it come to a conclusion since it's been going on for the better part of a year and a half and they have found no collusion between the president, as he said many, many times before. the president has an event in a couple of minutes. >> reporter: you said the president believes he can fire mueller. so doesn't it look weak on twitter for him to say sessions should end this probe when it's rosenstein that could end the probe and the president believes he can end the probe? >> it's not weak for the president of the united states to state his opinion. thanks so much, guys. >> i want to bring in msnbc justice and security analyst
matthew miller and "the washington post's" aaron blake. they are still with me. let's talk through a little bit of what we just saw there. this was a chance to ask the white house questions about the president's tweets this morning. sarah sanders said the tweet about bob mueller. >> is /* is an opinion. the president is not obstructing, she said. he is fighting back. she said most of america is angry about this. she also said that she defended -- we were going the viewers before we went into that live a clip of the president saying you have to get carded to -- you have to show an i.d. to buy groceries. she said he was talking about buying beer and wine. just goat that to get that on t >> she is arguing this tweet in itself wasn't a criminal act because he was expressing an opinion, not issuing an order. maybe. maybe not. i think it will depend how that tweet is interpreted what he means by should, whether that is
interpreted as -- usually a cabinet officer hears a president say you should do something, you interpret that as an order. it could still be powerful evidence of the president's criminality when taken together with everything else he's done to interfere with this investigation and try to get it stopped. i think that's what the special prosecutor is probably looking at. >> the most interesting sentence in that briefing was when she said the president is not obstructing, he is fighting back. this is actually something that the president has said before, both in an interview in january and in a tweet in april. that's also something that, by the way, could be used as evidence of obstruction. they are leaning into this. they want this fight. they want people to react to what the president is saying. they don't seem to be afraid that these things are being taken as evidence. when you say fighting back, that's the white house saying here that these actions are being taken on the president's behalf. that's not him making sure that this investigation is clean and
that we have a good government. that's him saying this is about me, i'm fighting back personally in this investigation. so the fact that they would put that forward in light of this controversy, i think, is really interesting. >> that really is, matt, kind of the whole strategy that the president's legal team is employing. they are quote/unquote fighting back to destroy the credibility with the president's supporters? >> there are ways to fight back against a criminal investigation that are appropriate. i should say that are not criminal behavior. whether the president does it or not -- the president doing it is different than any other subject of an investigation doing it because he has a responsibility for the justice department as head of the executive branch. i think that -- let's talk about paul manafort for example. he is on trial right now for tax fraud and bank fraud. also under indictment for obstruction of justice in d.c. for tampering with witnesses. i think paul manafort like a lot of other defendants would say what we're doing is just fighting back. doesn't mean it holds up in
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like the president is referring to the hoax as any allegation of collusion against him, his campaign, those around him. he doesn't make clear that interference is continuing to happen right now in this election when voters are being asked to go to the polls in a matter of weeks for those who vote early and in the 95 days that you've outlined. the president is out there campaigning for republicans at the same time there's interference happening. it's one that's not surprising when we look back at the history. >> thank you for that. with us now from washington, msnbc national security analyst ned price. a former cia officer who served as special assistant to president obama on the national security council. we have andy card, former white house chief of staff and now an msnbc political analyst. onset two veteran political reporters. i think all of us saw what
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saying i'm not in a position to either understand fully or talk about what happened in helsinki. >> i think the president has actually challenged his staff to do everything they can to make sure there's no meddling in the election. i think he is sending mixed messages. i think he's told the people who have the job to do to do their job. i'm confident they will be. it's also the state officials, states are responsible for the elections. the federal government can help them but the states have to say we're going to do everything question to make sure there's no meddling and we need the federal government's help. i believe the federal government is there to help. there's no hoax. this is not a hoax. the russians are doing this. >> something so critical. >> yeah. i'm embarrassed by it but i know the president did task his people to do everything they could to make sure there was no meddling. the russians have meddled. it's not a hoax. they've been doing it.
my fear is others are being invited to do it by the preside president's rhetoric. i wouldn't surprise me in the chinese and others may meddle. there's a lot of people that want to undermine our democracy. we do everything we can to make sure people see us as the shining example of how a democracy can work. the russians don't like that. we have a job to do. we want to spread democracy around the world. what is president is doing is not helping that. it's not a hoax. it's the real deal. he's a bit schizophrenic because he's telling his staff to do everything they can to make sure there's no meddling. >> what do you make of the timing of this? peter alexander reporting that sarah sanders said this was done at the request of the president of the united states who go out a few hours later says hoax,
hoax, hoax. maybe if you did a search of everything he said as president, hoax might come up in the top ten. why did the president ask for this? >> two things are happening. according to my reporting there's pressure from below on these officials. people in the intelligence services were really thrown by helsinki. there was a lot of pressure from veteran republicans and people in security said do something. we have to make a statement. >> you think it was their idea, their pressure, not the president's idea? >> i'm not sure i take that at face value. he went out hours later and understo undercut the idea it was a hoax. i think what we're seeing is as the election approaches, we're seeing more and more activity from trolls and bot nets. some linked to russia.
this is response to an actual problem happening. >> what did you make of what you saw yesterday and this complete and total disconnect between what every sing member of the intelligence community said. everybody's right. we heard this before. it's not necessarily new. it was so stark. i have never seen -- the people i talked to in the white house press corps have never seen that kind of line up. the number of people, our entire intelligence trust coming out there with a singular message that is then contradicted by the president, their boss. >> it's a big deal. my biggest take away from that stark contrast is the question of whether the president himself is actually listening to what his national security advisors and intelligence officials are telling him about the extent of this kind of threat. the other big take away i had too was director, fbi director
wrey and other officials were saying this goes beyond elections and election meddling. this is a larger attempt to influence and undermine and meddle in our democracy and pit people against each other. that's a bigger threat. there's the question of whether the president understands this fully. remember a few weeks ago he was tweeting out about this but saying that they are out to promote the democrats. we have seen they are meddle. we have seen democratic campaigns affected by this meddling not in the way the president is describing. >> thanks so both of you. ned price, andy card, thank you so much. you'll stay here with me on set. a proposed $10 million deal making trouble for the president's former fixer. new reporting that suggests michael cohen was trying to leverage ties to president trump to make even more millions. in the u.s. it's america's most popular street name. but allstate agents know that's where the similarity stops.
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former prosecutor. michael, this is crazy. this is the mega donor could have been among the most lucrative. i would be surprised if it wasn't the most lucrative that's ever seen. how often are there these deals with these kinds of numbers. >> we've been told it's unheard. that's what lobbyists in washington told us yesterday. you don't get paid $10 million. to be clear michael cohen didn't get paid the 10 million. he was offered the 10 million if he succeeded in helping get loans for the department of energy for this nuclear power project. in fact, he did not do that. his apartment was raided right after that. that deal is now off the table. >> how often is it in the world of consulting kind of pay for play? if you get it done then you get this money. if you don't get it done, you
don't get paid. >> it's unusual. >> that's also out of norm. it's frowned upon because it's seen as encouraging corruption. you're saying i'll pay you this much if you can get a government action done. basically it kind of lends itself to potential kick backs or bribery. >> when you tried to talk to the feds or his lawyer, what did they tell you? >> he said there was no contract for lobbying services. >> explain why that's important. >> michael cohen wasn't registered as a lobbyist. number two, hefrs the president's lawyer at the time who when this contract was made.hef president's lawyer at the time when this contract was made.ehe president's lawyer at the time when this contract was made. he president's lawyer at the time when this contract was made.whe president's lawyer at the time when this contract was made.ash president's lawyer at the time when this contract was made. th president's lawyer at the time when this contract was made. it would not smell very good. lobbying itself would have been problematic. >> cynthia, you have the whole lobbying question. then you have this unprecedented amount of money. you have a situation where it's
kind of pay for play. tell us how you think this might fit into the overall investigation into michael koe l cohen. >> we have been wondering why can't we get a plea agreement to advance the ball on some of these outstanding questions. the answer is they are still turning over rocks. this is sort of the billy carter model of lobbying and influences. he's not really a lobbyist. he doesn't really have any skill in that. all he is selling is his access to the president. the lobbying -- he should have registered as a lobbyist if he was going to do this. he's going have some legal exposure in the united states attorneys office in d.c. for this contract, at&t contract, the novartis contract and korean
accounting contract. all of which he was overpaid and underqualified for. >> she looked at 2,000 times. she said 531 of them were not privileged. those items have been sent to federal investigators. what do you make of that? >> we have to go through all the documents. it takes a long time. they need to go through every single thing. the next step would be to have a proffer with cohen to find out what he did wrong and find out what he knows. this arc of completing decision making about cohen is months and months away. >> she just sort of referenced this. he has these deals with at&t and
novart nova novartis. both companies say he did not do any substantial work for them. my question is how do all of us get paid for that kind of deal. what do you make of this ? >> this is just the swampiest of the swamp. the more and many that builds up against michael cohen, the more and more questions are about what he knows and willing to say about the president. >> how nervous is that making the white house as this drip, drip continues. every day something new. today it's the wall street. all this is coming out. >> cohen is super exposed. 10 million dollar is more than the annual rev noenue of most lobbying firms. it's not what people are paid for this work. this looks like bribery.
to have these big contracts with these companies. it's a measure of how trump changed the culture of washington lobbying. he made it more sleazy. they are paying a friend of his who knows nothing about nuclear pow power, has no lobbying experience, a 10 million dollar success fee. you know there's more there. that's going to put him in a hard position. >> no expertise. imagine that. such a great report. people can read it in the wall street. cynthia, thank you so you as well. following the money, speaking of that, while paul manafort was spending lavishly on clothes and home and landscaping, his bookkeeper said he was struggling to make ends meet. the bigger question it raids about paul manafort's work on the trump campaign. oh!
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keeping it near an 18-year low. in eastern afghanistan at least 19 people are dead following an attack by a suicide bomber. 81 others were wounded. no one is claiming responsibility. the islamic state affiliate in that country has targeted shiite workers before. the trump administration that not so longing ago says th american civil union liberty should be responsible for reuniting parents. the aclu said while it's eager to help, the government's job is to get this done. new numbers out just last night show that of the 2551 children separated from their parents, 572 are still in the custody of hhs. 410, whose parent vs been deported, 68 have parents
released into the u.s. but they haven't been contacted by the feds. day four under way at the manafort trial. the prosecution continues to paid a vivid picture of spending including 450,000 on landscaping at his house. a lot of that work was paid through an international wire transfer. all that spending left manafort under water. that's according to testimony from his bookkeeper. in dire financial straits by the time the 2016 campaign rolled around. julia, we'll get to the bookkeeper in a minute but
manafort's accountan strks bat n the stand. this is in the service of a case that's built on paper, built on following the money. what are we expecting to hear today? >> reporter: we already heard a little bit. this is an accountant prepared tax returns. one thing he said is that paul manafort physically signed oond mail -- and mailed in the tax returns. paul manafort did nothing illegal. it was just a matter of people who weren't keeping track of the numbers. another thing he said that was interesting when the prosecution was asking him about did you get your advice, did you take orders from paul manafort or rick gates. he said both men. there was very little daylight between rick gates and paul
manafort. they were own conference calls. their recordkeeping really never conflicted. you have rick gate who is have already plead guilty to falsifying tax returns and that would look poor for paul manafort who is still maintaining his innocence if the two are working hand in hand. >> the bookkeeper didn't do a lot to help with the argument. talk about what she said to say about doctoring the books. >> reporter: she said she wasn't given a lot of information on the foreign bank accounts that he was using. she was also told not to give a lot of information about how much debt they were in when trying to leverage their properties in order to get more loans. this is after a lot of his money was drying up from overseas. he was in the business of trying to maintain this luxurious lifestyle that the prosecutors already laid out and the previous three days in this trial. i think gone are the days we'll be talking about ostrich jackets and hearing about the luxurious
flower beds. we're getting into the nuts and bolts. we're going over pages and pages of tax documents and what paul manafort did when he falsified his tax returns. >> one of the interesting things about this when we heard from his bookkeeper yesterday, he's spent all this money on all these things that we talked about. he basically has almost nothing left. he's getting pressure now to pay his bills essentially. he goes to work for donald trump and he doesn't take a paycheck. what do we make of that ? >> the upside, if trump had won and manafort stayed op t eed on campaign was hunge. he and his partner were like roger stone, reinvented lobbying. he would come into trump washington as the premiere
lobbyist. that would have been a much bigger payoff than a couple hundred grand for running the campaign for six months. >> thanks so you as well. it's the president versus the press. ratcheting up the inflammatory rhetoric from the briefing room to the campaign stage as the president's daughter strikes a different tone. we've got that coming up. were made for better things than psoriatic arthritis. as you and your rheumatologist consider treatments, ask if xeljanz xr is right for you. xeljanz xr is a once-daily pill for psoriatic arthritis. taken with methotrexate or similar medicines, it can reduce joint pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma, and other cancers have happened. don't start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts, and higher liver tests and cholesterol levels have happened. your doctor should perform blood tests before you start and while taking xeljanz xr,
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escalate the ongoing trade war and saying it's preparing tariffs on $60 billion of u.s. goods. the white house is firing back. we go to kristen welker at the white house where there's several new developments on trade. what can you tell us? >> reporter: there's been several new developments in the past few minutes. the white house clearly defiant in the face of that new threat by china. it is a threat. china saying we're going to impose new tariffs if you mover to impose $200 billion of tariffs that president trump dangled early this week. we had a chance to ask larry kudlow about this. is this a trade war? he wouldn't use that term. they are not backing down. listen to what he had to say. >> my opinion, china better take president trump's efforts to solve the unfair and illegal
trading. their tariff problem, tech knowledge stealing, they better ta take president trump seriously. i would give them that advice. >> sarah sanders echoing that sentiment. let me read you the statement she gave a few moments ago. she said china should address the long standing concerns about its unfair trading practices. many of which are laid out in ustr 301 report. larry kudlocated talks are all but stalled. it's hard to see how this ends. farmers are watching this closely. when he asked him about farmers and the hit this could have, they have reached that potential deal with the eu. they are convinced the eu will buy more soybeans and farmers won't feel this.
>> thank you for that update. appreciate that. now to one of the president's other favorite topics, the media. take a listen. >> fake news. despite only negative publicity, only negative stories from the fakers back there. even these people back here, these horrible, horrendous people, even these people back there say it looks like the academy awards. they can make anything bad because they are the fake, fake, disgusting news. >> fake disgusting news. president trump turning what was supposed to be a rally focused on the pennsylvania senate race into a long and winding condemnation of the journalists who cover him. just hours after his press secretary, sarah huckabee sanders was asked by jim acosta
whether she thought the press was the enemy of the people. >> the president has made his position known. it's ironic, jim, that not only you and the media attack the president for his rhetoric when they frequently lower the level of conversation in this country. repeatedly the media resorts to personal attacks without any consent to incite aenger. the med media said i should be choked. i.c.e. officials are not welcomed in their place of worship and personal information is shared on the internet. when i was hosted by the correspondent's, you brought a comedian to attack my appearance and called me a traitor to my own gender. >> he said he wished those things had not happened and said she still had not acknowledged
the media is not the enemy of the people. here is her response. >> i appreciate your passion. i share it. i've addressed this question. i've addressed my personal feelings. i'm here to speak on behalf of the president. >> joining us from washington, jeff reuters white house correspondent. what was the feeling fli ining e room? >> reporter: it was interesting. it started out with officials talking about russia meddling. it's a consignificant iss const. it was tense. constant issue. it was tense. constant issue. it was tense. constant issue. it was tense.constant issue. it was tense. >> look, this is nothing new.
a tension between the folks in white house and members of the press. we've had our moments sparring with press secretaries whether it's in fropts of cameras or up in the press offices. how is this different? >> reporter: it's different because of what is coming out of the president's mouth. it's her job to be a spokeswoman. it's quite different to be the press than the president's daughter. i think it's important to focus on what the president has said. he has used that rhetoric. we have rejected it. i think the most important thing that i use ed to say then and i think that our members now in the association and otherwise
just my friends and cleolleague can do is continue to do good journalism. that's the way we stand up against rhetoric that's damaging. >> there's another thought that just don't go to the briefings. don't go to the rallies. don't give it oxygen. no news is being made. lies are being told. the washington post says that the number of lies is escalating. send one associated press reporter. basically send the pool. you're not going to stop covering the president of the united states but stop giving it all the oxygen. what's your thought on that ? >> when they did have the national security and intelligence officials come out and brief the press, i think that was an important moment for the public to see and to have the opportunity to ask those officials about a really key issue going on right now. that is important. the daily press briefing and everything else, there's the question of what we're getting out of it. if you boycott this then the president turns it back around. i mean the president makes an
opponent of the media. we saw it in his presidential campaign. we're seeing it on the campaign trail now. we're seeing some republican candidates echo sentiment toward the base. >> what do you think ? >> it's playing the president wants to mike thake this a camp issue to frame this election around the media. >> with his base it's working. >> i don't think we should give him what he wants. we're not the story. the way we and our colleagues make the story about us is a mistake. i don't think we have to boycott or give everything to him in terms of coverage. there's a middle ground. you can go and choose what's newsworthy. i think there's too much at his rallies and too much basic coverage that makes no news. >> thanks so you and all of your colleagues still at the white
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. just moments ago the treasury department announced more sanctions targeting north korea. this time a russian bank and others are accused of helping north korea's weapons of mass destruction program. remember it was just last night at the rally in pennsylvania that the president bragged about the singapore summit and his relationship with kim jong-un. president trump heads to ohio tomorrow to try to help republicans avert a major embarrassment in a congressional district that hasn't been come pet tiv -- competitive in decad and the president won by 11 points. he will campaign for balderson who is head to when he had barletta. just houw much can the presiden help a candidate beyond his base when history shows most of the times at these rallies he talks about himself. case in point, the president
stumping for a u.s. senate candidate in pennsylvania but he only spent about ten minutes talking about that race. he suggested it wasn't nearly as interesting as what he had been talking about. >> all right. let's get back to some boring subjects like bob casey. isn't that boring. i got to talk about bob casey. don't fall asleep as we talk about sleeping bob. that's it. sleeping bob. that's it. >> here to talk about the trump factor on the president's 2018 strategy. evan, how worried are republicans about the ohio race? let's start with the nuts and bolts. >> they are pretty worried. if we lose this seat, and it's
very possible. it's a narrative setting that democrats have momentum going in. look what happened with connor lamb. he eked out a victory equal connor eked out a victory. voters who sat health care was either very important or the most important issue broke for him. democrats are going to have to somehow utilize health care as an issue going into the midterms. >> let's -- let me ask you about this race in particular and whether or not you think the president is make a difference. i'm argue the president's side, which is that he gets his base riled up. he gets people out. he gets them thinking about this race. let's see whether or not he tries to make a case for why they should vote for the republican. having said that, small, small, small numbers are people turn out in these kinds of elections, and if he can get people fired up, maybe he can be the difference. >> he got his based fired up for
rick saccone. he's going to do what he dp last night. recounting of the likall like a. >> we put together an airing of his grievances from last night. >> i kept saying why aren't they calling pennsylvania. remember? an hour, two hours, t98% and thy wouldn't call it. for 2.5 months i hear texas is in play. utah is in play. it hits 8:00. and they go like two seconds after 8. donald trump has won the state of texas. donald trump has won the state of utah. >> i mean maybe i missioned ed .
at what point does it get old, nick? >> i thought the best of us was the rest of us. it was just for the president. it's the same every time. i do think, look, the nickname is even tired. sleeping bob casey. people in that room love it but the point is these rallies are only partly intended to help the person they're scheduled for. they're also intended by the white house staff as therapy sessions the president. a place for him to feel good, get him out of the white house, away from the investigation where he's surrounded by love. this is a man who's proven he's fairly needy. also these republican candidates in tough races. >> i think they spoke for three minutes. that's the trump factor. can we talk about the other factor. apparently they got hands on her book.
ed head line is very provocative. am mer rose is a talked about how he exhibited a mental decline as she watched his rambling lester holt interview. it's called unhinged. it'sen insider account. it's not out until the 14th. other quotes about the trump/holt interview. i knew something wasn't right. i kept thinking oh no, oh, no. this is bad. donald rambled and spoke gypper rigypper -- gibber rish. is this a disgruntled employee, somebody who left the white house under bad terms? is it somebody who has known the president for many many years going back to the early days of the apprentice and her observations matter or just feeding both sides, feeding the people who want to believe
there's something wrong with the president and for the other folks just become part of the whole cacophony of fake news. >> i think it plays to both sides. there were white house officials denigrating her and saying -- >> had to drag her out kicking and screaming. >> it raised the question about the president hired her the position in the white house. and so -- >> for a long time, nick thought she was really great. >> in the context of this midterm campaign, whether this feeds into the agate of the grievances that trump's opponents will have towards him, when you hear these stories. >> there will be a huge appetite for this book coming from a liberal audience. i would say if you think think om ma roarosa was a credible whe worked for him. his personality is pretty erratic -- >> she's trying to to image
rehab because she ticked off the left and now is trying to appeal to them. it raises the question as to what he was saying at the end of the rally. america is winning again. is it really winning when 50% of the country consistently says we're going in the wrong track? is it winning we we're now attacking the very justice system. is it winning when foreign investment is at an almost zero? is it winning when separating families at the border? is it winning when we are going out and saying that we're going to have health care that's going to be great but we know headalt care is going to go up. >> thanks to you. thanks to our long -- one-hour long guest. thank you. glad you had a good birthday. we'll be right back with today's big picture.
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as far north as new hampshire where rainfall reaches 3 inches per hour, so those watches remain up with that continued flow. most of it is west of i-95, but that will change over the next 24 hours, and we're looking for another 3 to 4 plus inches of rainfall. that's going to spur up some flooding. a couple of more rounds coming through. two last night and this afternoon, and then more tonight and then another one tomorrow morning through new york and into boston. dry air behind, that but for the next 20 hours or so, tom, going to be a little rough. tom? >> rob for us tonight. rob, thank you. we turn to a developing story here in new york. abc news obtaining video of an off-duty police officer allegedly shooting a man in the face, then trying to plant something on him before authorities arrive. the confrontation caught on surveillance. the officer wounding the victim and what happens when he appears to notice the camera. abc's erielle reshef with that video. >> reporter: tonight, this disturbing new video capturing
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man who gunned down a prominent houston doctor riding his bike to work ending police say in this southwest houston neighborhood. >> it's going to be the suspect. he's walking. he's down. >> reporter: with a dramatic showdown between two police officers and 62-year-old suspect joseph pappas. police say pappas took his own life as officers approached him this morning. >> without the public, we wouldn't be standing here today. >> reporter: the death marking the end of a nearly two week long manhunt, police say pappas had a long held grudge against prominent cardiologist dr. mark hausknecht who once treated president george h.w. bush, and according to police, pappas' mother when she died on the operating table 20 years ago. investigators say in their hunt for a motive, a disturbing picture emerged revealing just how much planning allegedly went into dr. house hausknecht's july 20th murder. >> our investigateers found a very extensive intelligence file this suspect had put together on dr. hausknecht. >> reporter: police say that file also included the names of other employees at the texas medical center. but it's unclear tonight whether or not they were targets too.
we have learned tonight that a camera on a city bus captured the entire murder. the police chief told me it is the most chilling video he has ever watched. he also said that he is thankful the community helped catch a killer, tom. >> marcus moore for us. marcus, thank you. news tonight about the desperate search for that missing student in iowa. authorities looking through ditches and farms for mollie tibbetts who vanished while jogging more than two weeks ago. the reward now jumping to more than $200,000. abc's alex perez is in iowa. >> reporter: tonight, mollie tibbetts' father, begging for help. >> we're all in this together. we're all trying to bring molly back. >> reporter: her boyfriend dalton jack making an emotional plea to mollie's possible abductor. >> just try to put yourself in our shoes. what if somebody had taken somebody that you love so much, and just have the courage to come forward. >> reporter: it's been more than two weeks since the university of iowa student vanished. authorities have searched nearby properties, investigated a report of a possible sighting in
missouri, and are following up, they say, on hundreds of tips. authorities have remained tight-lipped about the investigation, but investigators say they do have a solid base of evidence they are working from. >> we come to work every day with an attitude that we're going to find mollie today and we hope to be able do that and report that to you soon. >> reporter: the reward for information on her whereabouts growing. now topping $200,000. tom, investigators say they are working this case around the clock. there are signs like this one just about everywhere you look across town. authorities are hoping that increased reward will motivate anyone with information to come forward. tom? >> and that reward still growing tonight. all right, alex. thank you. the new headline about the las vegas massacre tonight. the motive behind the worst mass shooting in modern american history will remain a mystery. the police department releasing its final report on the killing spree last october. investigators say they may never know why he opened fire from his room at the mandalay bay hotel.
58 people were killed, hundreds wounded, attending that outdoor concert. the sheriff calling paddock, quote, an unremarkable man with a troubled mind. next tonight, president trump and china stoking the flames of their trade war. china warning it will hit the u.s. with $60 billion worth of new tariffs. in response to the president's threat of a $200 billion tariff on chinese products. americans already caught in the middle. here's abc's chief white house correspondent, jonathan karl. >> reporter: a new front in the escalating trade war with china which today threatened to impose $60 billion in new tariffs on a wide range of american products. the move comes after the president moved to dramatically increase u.s. tariffs on chinese goods. the president talked about his get-tough-on-china trade policy at his rally last night in pennsylvania. >> right now, championship is -- >> right now, china is not too happy with me. and our country got ripped off like no country ever before in
the history of the world. we got ripped off. >> reporter: the new chinese tariffs would cover over 5,000 american products. new taxes on honey, coffee, wine, american beef, salmon, vegetables and much more. many of the targeted products come from areas that voted overwhelmingly for donald trump in the 2016 election. the president's top economic adviser offered an ominous warning today to china. >> the message here is do not underestimate president trump's determination to follow through on the china trade reform campaign. they better take president trump seriously. >> reporter: today's escalation comes after tit-for-tat moves where the united states and china each imposed new tariffs on $34 billion worth of imports last month. an expanding trade war that could hit american companies, farmers and consumers hard. >> jon karl joins us now live from the white house, and jon, how's the administration reacting tonight to the those new threats from china? >> reporter: the message to china tonight comes from the
white house press secretary, sarah sanders who says, instead of retaliating, china should address longstanding concerns about its unfair trading practices. in other words, tom, the white house is not backing down. >> jonathan karl for us tonight. jon, thank you. and a late immigration headlight coming in tonight. a federal judge ruling the trump administration must fully restore daca. the program for so-called dreamers, allows 8,000 -- 800,000 undocumented immigrants brought to the u.s. as children to remain in the country. the judge giving the administration 20 days to appeal. there is much more ahead "world news tonight" this friday. the dramatic rescue. a child choking on a marble, no longer breathing when the officer arrived. what he did to save her life. plus harvey weinstein fighting back. the legal play by the disgraced mogul. alleged e-mails he says show he had a romantic relationship with the woman accusing him of rape. and the scary standoff in yellowstone between a man and a
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back now with the scary standoff with a wild animal in yellowstone national park. the man who is lucky he wasn't injured when the animal charged, now facing charges in court. here's abc's clayton sandell. >> reporter: this bison-baiting video, the latest example of a wildlife encounter gone wrong. >> oh, no, no, no, no, no. >> reporter: the man in the road taunting this giant yellowstone bison, soon found himself in handcuffs. 55-year-old raymond reinke, arrested last night. this now-viral video, joining a long list of legal trouble for reinke. his multiple run-ins with rangers started july 28th at grand teton national park, busted for allegedly being drunk and disorderly. then in yellowstone tuesday, reinke was cited for intoxication and harassing wildlife. then he was on to glacier, but when authorities saw this video,
a warrant was issued for his arrest. >> oh, god. >> reporter: wild animals are of course, wild, and experts warn getting too close could kill you. >> these are not elsie the cow. this is a wild animal that fights for aggression, fights for territory. >> reporter: last night, rangers at glacier national park caught up with reinke. he is still in custody, facing several charges including disturbing wildlife. he has not entered a plea. tom. >> a wild trip for him. clayton, thank you. when we come back, a man overboard. the urgent search tonight in the waters off alaska after a choose ship crew member disappears. and call them the lucky 11. the california co-workers who have 543 million reasons to celebrate tonight. stay with us. this is your wake-up call. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion.
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trump tower meeting between allegedly his son and some russians and some other folks. and it is true that parts of that investigation have blossomed into whole new areas, such as the manafort trial, which has nothing at all to do with the original russia investigation. in fact it's one of the bases that manafort asked the judge to throw that case out, that it exceeded the power of the special counsel. so it's hard to say what exactly kristin davis has information about, because the scope of this investigation is so broad. >> just to give a little better sense pulling back the curtain from my conversations in my day job working over at the white house, in a series of conversations i had late this week with sources close to the president, they all tell me that the president's frustration specifically as it relates to paul manafort, remember that specific case he attacked as a hoax on twitter earlier this week, is in the eyes of these folks basically speaking to the president, the president views those and the fact that they are before the 2016 election as
having nothing to do with him and he thinks effectively he's unfairly getting dinged for that here. but this is under robert mueller's purview, right? he was allowed to start looking for links between campaign officials and russians. basically go wherever the investigation took him, right? >> yes. in fact the judge in the case in which manafort tried to get it thrown out observed that -- and this is really interesting how they parsed words. the court concluded that special counsel was permitted to investigate issues relating to russia collusion, but prosecute anything that arose from that investigation. it's an interesting interpretation of the mandate to special counsel mueller. but with that in mind, if anything springs from that original investigation that is illegal or unlawful in the special counsel's mind, then he can investigate and prosecute it. or, as we've seen, he can hand
issues off or cases or matters off to u.s. attorneys in particular districts, such as the southern district of new york. >> as he did in the case of michael cohen. danny cevallos and anna schecter, thank you very much. now to those escalating words -- escalating war of words over the u.s./china trade right now. beijing is threatening to slap retaliatory tariffs on $60 billion in american goods. this is the latest in what's really become a bitter back-and-forth between these two economic powers. it comes just one day after the trump administration announced that it will raise its proposed tariff on $200 billion on chinese products to 25%. judging by the comments from the white house economic advisor, this thing isn't finished yet. >> don't underestimate president trump's determination to follow through. i'm just telling you. i can't speak for the communist party in china. i can speak for our president.
do not underestimate his determination to change trading practices on a fair, reciprocal plane. >> nbc's jo ling kent is following this now. so china is threatening additional tariffs against the u.s. the president keeps upping the ante saying it will go up to $2 billion, maybe up to 25% or more. where are we headed in this and is this just words or something that's having a tangible impact? >> right now the threat from china is basically a threat. we're talking about $60 billion in tariffs here but really what it impacts are products that folks use, automobiles, machinery, coffee, food, meat, all kinds of very important daily staples in american life. in fact it's going to affect 40% of all u.s. exports to china. so it's a pretty big significant number here. if the white house does follow through, china is not known to back down from these kinds of
threats. overall, china is looking at a very big global problem if this does indeed go through because, as you know, their economy is slowing down a bit so that could actually have major global repercussions, peter. >> here's how larry kudlow sort of assessed the situation as it relates to china this morning. take a listen. >> china is in trouble right now. their economy is lousy. investors are walking out. the currency is falling. my opinion, china better take president trump's efforts to solve the unfair, illegal trade. their tariff problem, their lack of reciprocity, their technology stealing, their ip theft, they better take president trump seriously. >> kudlow there saying china is in trouble right now. is he correct in sort of his assessment of china, the impact this is having on the other part
of the pacific? >> kudlow's comments about the chinese currency are on point. they're trading at their lowest levels in about a year. the chinese economy is looking at new ways to go as that consumer economy gets a little more saturated here. the real key is what's happening at the top levels in terms of communication on this front. is there a way out of there. according to a cnbc report, it sounds like discussions have basically stopped. there's only been one phone call over the past couple of days and the discussions have basically fallen silent. i've talked to an obama administration official in recent weeks and they said there is a lot of confusion within the chinese government at the top levels in beijing trying to figure out what to do next. but no doubt that the chinese economy needs to be -- it needs to be supported in some way as they go through a transition. it's not just having to do with tariffs, but the tariffs certainly don't help. you have big number changing now. the chinese economy or the stock market used to be number two to the u.s. and now it slipped to number 3.
>> already having a real impact. i was traveling to fargo, north dakota, and spoke to some of the farmers there. even since the president first initiated this topic of tariffs, they said the price of soybean down about 19%. jo ling kent is joining us from los angeles. jo ling, thank you very much. >> thanks. coming up next right here, new reporting from "the washington post" that the trump international hotel in new york city is seeing an upswing in profits, thanks to some big international spenders. it comes with growing criticism that president trump's company is continuing to do business with foreign officials and clearly reaping the benefits. david fahrenthold joins me next. . you do, too, but not in time. hey, no big deal. you've got a good record and liberty mutual won't hold a grudge by raising your rates over one mistake. you hear that, karen? liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges...
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broke that story. david, nice to see you right now. what's striking about your new reporting today is it really does, even 18 months into the trump administration, still show us how little we know about the dealings between the president's private organization and other foreign nations with which his administration is doing business. >> that's absolutely right. we don't really have any official list of the foreign governments that have paid president trump's company to rent ballrooms, to rent hotel rooms since he took office. there's been a few that have come out through media reports, but the government and the trump organization have not given us anything. this story, this letter we got showing this really big expenditure by saudis apparently visiting new york with the crown prince of saudi arabia just sort of illustrates how little we know. this is occurring at a hotel in new york, not in the d.c. hotel we've been so focused on. there could be a lot more out there that we're just seeing in little pieces. >> just for a little better understanding of this to walk us through it, it's not just the
saudis, you write about the kuwaitis, the philippine government that was hosting events. this was specific to the washington, d.c., hotel. this has been a parade of foreign dignitaries or foreign nations that have been going trump properties basically because they say it reflects back at home that they have a close relationship with the president of the united states. >> that's right. one of the really striking things we found in the reporting of this story was this interview with the philippine ambassador to the u.s. interviewed while he was having a philippine independence day party at president trump's hotel. he was open about it. he said this is a statement. having it at president trump's hotel is a way of showing our friendship. basically to show that we are close to the united states government, we're going to put money in the personal pocket of the u.s. president. and you can see the sort of appeal of that. even the trump organization doesn't say you can buy access or favor from the president, people see this as a natural way to get in his good graces. >> so all this raises questions
about what is called the emoluments clause. no person holding any office of profit or trust under them shall without the concept of the congress accept any present, emolument, office or title of any kind whatever from any king, prince or foreign state. so the reason this is important right now, and this may eventually end up before the supreme court, just last week i think it was a federal judge in maryland, if i'm not mistaken, that basically gave the green light for a lawsuit suggesting, arguing that the president was violating this clause, violating the constitution. update us on where this stands right now, if you can. >> sure. that language you read sounds very outdated and that's in part because presidents for a long time, for decades, have tried to stay way away from even getting close to the line so there hadn't been a test of what emolument, this old-fashioned word really meant in the 21st century context. until last week.
as you said, this judge ruled, and he said, look, an emolument, the thing the constitution says presidents shouldn't take, i believe that includes things like a market value transaction between the president's company and a foreign state. it's not just bribes, it's not just gifts from foreign governments to the president. if the president's company rents a big ballroom for a foreign state and the president benefits, takes in revenue, that's an emaolument and band b the constitution. coming up, president trump continuing his attacks on the free press, devoting a lot of time on stage last night at that rally to take swipes at the media. after this break, we're going to take a look at what it all means for legitimate news sources, like the president continues to go after even as he spreads his own falsehoods at an alarming rate. you're watching msnbc.
the others. when you read "the new york times," it's just story after story after story that's just a negative spin. just stick with us, don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. they can make anything bad, because they are the fake, fake, disgusting news. >> that last clip just last night. the president's relentless attacks on the news media's credibility. they are obviously not new. but in recent days the president's vitriol has ramped up. i was on the road with him recently and we witnessed this in person. it's making waves with his most ardent supporters. while the president and his top officials continue to paint legitimate news outlets, these that strive to use actual facts, substantial evidence, reliable sources, to support america's democracy as, quote, the enemy of the people, the line between what is real and what is fake has become increasingly blurred. as an example of this troubling
situation, "the new york times" looked into how real people were lured onto fake facebook pages and accounts in the platform's most recent uncovering of ongoing influence campaigns. for that i want to bring in charlie savage, a pulitzer prize-winning correspondent for "the new york times" and also fortunately for us an msnbc contributor. charlie, good to see you in person. so break down how this is working out. how it's becoming increasingly difficult for folks to separate fact from fiction, especially when they're working on social media platforms like facebook has experienced and how people are lured in and almost become activists of these fake accounts. >> the phrase "fake news" which trump has weaponized against real news began with the spreading of misinformation and false news stories about how democrats were for running pizza parlors with pedophilia and all this total nonsense that a few fringe people on the internet embraced in the 2016 election as
part of this russian misinformation campaign, sowing disinformation, and amplifying these crazy things. even though trump has gone off and used that phrase for his own purposes, meanwhile social media manipulation continues. so just this week we had facebook announce that it was taking down a dozen or more accounts and pages that were part of a covert manipulation campaign and information operation. they're not saying russian, but they're saying they're linked to the russian accounts and the pattern is the same so read between the lines. it's probably still them. and facebook has been under all this tremendous pressure to act in a way that it didn't do in 2016. but what we saw this week was they reacted by taking down everything that was linked to any of these suspect accounts, which included a lot of real content by real people. it shows what a dilemma this is. stuff gets intermingled. so in this case apparently a bad account started an event page
for a counterprotest against the white supremacist march that was going to happen here in d.c. >> this was scheduled to take place in the next week here in washington, d.c. >> it sure is. >> this is the follow-up to charlottesville. >> the charlottesville white supremacists are having a one-year anniversary here in d.c. so all these left wing anti-racist groups are going to counterprotest them. they were going to do it whether or not someone made a facebook page. but the first one to get there was this bad page and everyone started adding content to it. when facebook realized it had a patient zero problem, they wiped it out. >> so this original page was called resistors and had a lot of people from local washington, d.c. activism groups on the left who engaged in this. if you went down, nbc news was able to uncover some of the pages that were pulled off in the past associated with resistors and they said things like bring helmets and goggles and whatever else. basically preparing for what was going to be a violent clash. we've heard from the president
saying, oh, yeah, if the russians are doing anything, they're only trying to help the democrats. if it's promoting the left here, it's helping the democrats. but it's not that simple, right? much of the president's world, conservative belief right now, is that the left is sort of fringe and out there in its own way and this in effect was to amplify that thought, was it not? >> maybe amplify it in the sense, but i don't think -- i wouldn't even call these guys democrats. they are far left. these are antifa. they were going to do this either way but the fact that the russians or whoever created this bad account and they sort of got onto it because it was already there now taints the whole enterprise and allows that kind of rhetoric to say this is all astroturf and there wouldn't have been -- you know, we're going to see a rough couple of days in washington a week from now i predict. i'm sure then we're going to hear from the right, see, the russians are causing this, or
maybe from the left too. and it just shows what a tremendously complicated problem this is that we still haven't gotten our hands around. even facebook's response may have been too far in the other direction. >> and with only a few months to go until the midterms, there are a lot of potential accounts out there that could be forming as we speak and it's hard to know what you can trust when you're reading your own social media. >> the distinction between wanting to speak freely and maybe hide your identity so you don't feel afraid to say what you really want to say but how do you keep fake people and state-sponsored manipulation campaigns out of that without absolute knowledge of who's posting what, there's a trade-off there that doesn't have a good answer without downsides along the way. >> all of this as we heard from national security officials yesterday saying our democracy is in the crosshairs. charlie savage, thank you very much. coming up, we want to talk a little bit more about this. more than just these individuals that fall victim to this blurred line. the spread of false information has major implications on our
economy, on our democracy, on our businesses, on national security. there's a new study that found false news traveled farther, faster, deeper and more broadly than the truth in every category of information. sometimes by an order of magnitude. and false political news traveled farther, faster, deeper and more broadly than any other type. with me now is one of the leading social network experts who conducted this study. he is a professor at the m.i.t. sloan school of management. we appreciate your time right now. so help us get a better understanding of exactly what you found. it would seem to make sense because these false reports, this fake news, as the intention of that phrase is, refers to misinformation and misinformation is often sexy or conspiratorial and it's the kind of stuff people are inclined to spread pretty quickly. >> indeed. this study was published in
"science" and summarized from this harvard business review article published this month. basically we studied all of the verified true and false news that spread on twitter from its inception in 2006 to 2017, ten years of data. exactly as you said, we found that false news traveled farther, faster, deeper and more broadly than the truth in every category. false political news was the type of news that traveled the farthest and the fastest. this is a very, very difficult issue. it's something that we need to have a handle on because getting rid of false news or understanding what's true and what's false is essential to our democracy. but the act of policing false news can also be a tool for repression. we see, for instance, in malaysia that they have instituted a six-year prison ban for anyone spreading false news. depending on who gets to decide what's true and false that, could be used to tamp down opposition to the government, for instance. >> just to hit people over the
head with this really quickly, because i was reading through some of your findings here. you say farther, faster and the like. but it was remarkable some of the numbers that you found. how much quicker does a piece of false information travel than real news? >> depending on the category and depending on the type of false news, it can travel several times faster than the true news. there are specific findings about the number of minutes that it takes for a false type of story to spread a certain distance in the twitter sphere but it is in some cases order of magnitude difference. >> so how do we contain this? how do we reverse this trend, and what is being actively done right now to try to accomplish that? >> as i mention in this article, there are four avenues, all of which are difficult, all of which will require precision and rigor. one is educating the players, including the individual human beings that are spreading false
news. labeling things with veracity scores. understanding what the role of government is in regulating speech online. we are already doing that with carve-outs to the human decency act section 230 which indicates that platforms like facebook aren't responsible for what other people say on the platform. we are also thinking about the incentives to all of the players. in other words, there's a financial incentive to spread false news because the social media advertising ecosystem monetizes eyeballs on content. if false news spreads farther, faster, deeper, more broadly, it will garner more eye balls. these are all avenues. we need a lot more research and have a lot of work to do. >> the bottom line is when the president attacks fake news and points to real news media outlets, he clouds the real issue here which is this misinformation. the real fake news that does
exist out there that as you note is spreading as rammpidly as we can imagine. we appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. coming up right here on msnbc, between the shifting retail landscape and president trump's trade war with china, we've seen a recent tirade on that, we're seeing a lot of changes happening across the american economy. after this break, what does toys "r" us have to do with the latest jobs numbers, the dip we saw in the economic growth. plus rudy giuliani says they will soon see if the president will sit down with robert mueller's investigators. if the president agrees, what are the risks? what are the rewards? you're watching msnbc. relentle. tremfya® is for adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i'm ready. with tremfya®, you can get clearer. and stay clearer. in fact, most patients who saw 90% clearer skin at 28 weeks stayed clearer through 48 weeks. tremfya® works better than humira® at providing clearer skin, and more patients were symptom free with tremfya®. tremfya® may lower your
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you blame among other things the slower hiring in july on toys "r" us of all folks. why is that? >> that's where we saw 32,000 losses. 31,800 to be exact in the sporting and hobby categories, which includes toys "r" us and toys "r" us went bankrupt and actually closed all their stores in the month of july. we saw that poor little giraffe going away forever. i remember my kids playing with one of those when they were little and that went away. so that was one factor that took it down. we also had upward revisions to previous months and so at the end of the day it was still ray fairly strong number. >> one of the real holdups right now in these numbers, unemployment looking pretty good, but wage growth has been the place that it has stalled not in the last several months but the last several years. it's been a real frustration. why is that? what are you hearing from your companies that are looking at higher paying jobs and breaking them down and keeping wages
throw. >> what is new has been how these employers are taking higher paid jobs, breaking them down into smaller jobs among more workers and paying them lesser wages and training them to fulfill the jobs. we've also seen some companies where they have gone back in and said do we really need a college degree for this job? can we hire someone with a lesser degree, bring them up to speed and pay them a little less as well. all of that is creating more jobs but not more wage gains. that's what happens when you start to run out of -- for a long time these employers were able to skim the cream off the top of the milk when it came to hiring. they could hire just the best and only who they wanted and sort of really make it tight. now they're having to dip a little deeper and churn the milk into butter and that's a positive thing because it brings people off the sidelines that might not have had a chance before. >> diane, i traveled a lot with the president when he was candidate trump. he spoke often how he was going to help erase the deficit. he said economic growth will help do that.
are we seeing that take place right now? what are you witnessing? >> in terms of the federal deficit? >> in terms of the federal deficit. >> it's blown up. yeah, no, it's not being erased. this is really unprecedented to see a period of time where we're already at low employment to use fiscal stimulus, tax cuts and spending increases. they're looking for more money. we're even seeing a threat of a shutdown of the government. border crossings have gone down over the last decade and that's a strange thing to see at this stage of the game. it's unprecedented to see these deficits. we'll hit the trillion dollar mark and that's going to add to the problems we face with the national progression of the deficit. more medicaid payments going out, social security payments going out, all of that is something we worry about going forward but it sure gives us a little extra growth today.
>> diane swonk from grant thornton helping us understand those new jobs numbers today. diane, thank you very much. >> thank you. i want to get back to our breaking news on the russia investigation. we already told you this hour that robert mueller has interviewed the manhattan madam, kristin davis. but i want to talk about another potential interview for mueller's team. according to trump's personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, the president and his legal team will likely make a decision on whether to grant mueller an interview with the president monday or tuesday. perhaps as early as next week. for more on this i'm joined by nbc news white house correspondent kelly o'donnell and for more legal analysis, danny cevallos. kelly, i know you're already up there where the president is spending a working vacation but his aides say he just wanted to get in some golf. if you can, walk us through what you're hearing from his legal team about the potential for an interview.
rudy giuliani has been telling us for months that the deadline was this date or this date or this date and we've blown past all of them. >> reporter: that's true. of course there's an urgency on the part of the president to want to get this wrapped up and ideally before labor day with the issues that relate to the president. obviously the mueller investigation is bigger and broader and would continue. but try to get it wrapped up so that the president in the final stretch before midterm elections can be out on the trail with this potentially behind him. so here's the latest update on the strategy. there's been a back and forth and exchange of letters and conversations between the president's outside legal team and the mueller team about the terms, the scope, the when, the where, the subject matter. what i'm told is that the latest offer has been that the giuliani side, of course representing the president, would say to mueller you can question the president about issues of collusion, but not of those that relate to anything that happened once he took office, meaning the obstruction of justice issues, firing the comey, et cetera. why? because when he was a private citizen, it's expected that
those would be things he could be compelled to answer under subpoena if it were to come to that. but while in office, they might be able to defeat a subpoena in court. so that's a bit of the divide. the timing, i'm told that by the beginning of next week, monday or tuesday, they will follow up with their response to the latest back-and-forth from the mueller team and they expect that there has to be a conclusion coming. when, as you point out, we've heard it before, that it's almost over. it isn't yet. but there does appear to be a willingness to talk about certain issues and maybe a stronger kind of a push to avoid perhaps the most perilous ones relating to obstruction of justice. peter. >> notably we hear from rudy giuliani on a regular basis. we do not hear from the special counsel's office on this. so, danny, to you. what are the real risks, the rewards, break down the pros and cons for the president if he were to sit down with robert mueller. >> the president's legal team has a difficult choice to make, but in the end it is no choice at all. there's no question that the president cannot sit down with
an -- for an informal interview with the mueller team. the reason for that is lying to investigators or telling nontruths or exaggerating or fabricating to investigators in an informal interview situation like that is a crime just as perjury is a crime if it's under oath. that's why giuliani and team have to bluff. this is a gambit. they're going to tell mueller that they'll consider sitting down, but in the end they will never voluntarily sit him down with mueller's team. they're going to take the chance that mueller will decide on his own that he cannot subpoena the president or will not subpoena the president and it really ultimately is going to be a big bluff. >> a lot of this a pr game at this point. danny cevallos and kelly o'donnell, kelly, i'll be there at bedminster, we'll see you next week. coming up next, the latest on the hundreds of children still separated from their parents. where does it stand right now? you're watching msnbc.
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court order deadline to reunite the children and parents the trump administration forcibly separated at the border. according to a new court filing, there are still more than 570 children who are not with their parents. now the aclu who is representing the hundreds of families says the government is asking for their help to reunite these parents and children and that includes helping to locate the parents who have been deported. msnbc's jacob soboroff has been following the story for months for us now. jacob is live. jacob, we have a new statement from the aclu where they say the government appears to be taking the remarkable position that it is the job of private entities to find these parents and it can largely sit back and wait for us to tell them when we find people. you have to imagine the aclu wants to help reunite these families, but at the end of the day, the government separated them. isn't the government's responsibility to put them back together? >> you know what, peter? i was thinking of when you sat
down with the secretary of homeland kirstjen nielsen, are you going to be able to unite them? we are not going to cut corners. it appears that is exactly what they are doing right now. they are cutting a corner, 572 children large at this point. basically saying the aclu is the one that is the plaintiff in this lawsuit. they're the ones that want the children reunited. so, hey, aclu, why don't you guys take the lead and we'll be in the supporting position here to put the rest of these children back with their parents. >> a reason this is striking a lot of parents, we heard ivanka trump yesterday, she described it in the past tense saying it was a low point that family separation policy for her personally, she said in her comments, during that conversation yesterday. which makes a pretty good point. one, she said it was a low point. we are still in the middle of this low point, then, right? there are more than 500 of these children who are not back with their parents.
here's ivanka trump yesterday. take a quick listen. >> that was a low point for me as well. and i am very vehemently against family separation and the separation of parents and childr children. >> so the frustration, jacob, people are opposed to separation. it's a low point. advocate for family reunification. why isn't the government doing something to put the family back together? >> if you watch the entire clip of ivanka, she goes on to make the case for family separation policy, how difficult it is and why you have to deter people from coming to the united states. this whole thing was built around deterrence. it might have been a low point for ivanka trump. it is still a low point for 572 children in the custody of the united states government and in particular for 410 of those children whose parents have already been deported, and for
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hearing between the trump administration and the aclu try to figure out actually how these reunifications are going to take place and if he will basically encourage, listen to the proposal there from the government. >> yeah, the government basically throwing its arms up. it is amazing they're asking the aclu to help establish contact. jacob soboroff covering this for months. good to see you. thanks for your reporting. >> thank you, peter. >> coming up now, we'll be back after a quick break and then nicolle wallace. the line between work and life hasn't just blurred. it's gone.
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