has to be taught. >> i agree personal spansability is very important. i agree with that. >> you can't continue to have 75% of black babies being born out of wedlock. you can't. >> 35 white babies out of wedlock. >> that doesn't matter. you are deflecting the big problem. >> i'm talking about it's a systemic problem. you started the dialogue with brother sowell personal responsibility, family. you say wait a minute, you have got is% of the population have 42% of the wealth. they used to have 20%. that's redistribution of wealth upwards. upward. >> as african-americans become more educated and become more sophisticated in the marketplace, that gap will shrink. you forcing it to shrink will never work. it never has worked. last word. >> what evidence do you have in terms of the free market functioning inequality is reduced? you don't have evidence of that.