southwest and my lieutenant venn egga gave venega gave a roll call and we made our way west but we didn t know that bob venega was buried in the pocket by the elevator base with two chiefs. he didn t tell us to come back and we didn t know it but 3 other members of the company were working on digging him out and 45 minutes trying to dig them out and the next big bang, he told them make a run for it and everyone that was working to get him out, they tied a rope and we spent 3 weeks following the rope and the rope eventually is hole in the basement but i still can t imagine the bravery of someone who basically he wasn t hurt, he was a vietnam