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lame-duck? the drama. but notice what she did not do, for all her grandstanding, she did not try to remove johnson from the speakership today, and gave no timeline for when she might bring her motion to vacate to the floor, still, she -- speaker johnson is in a pickle. he cannot seem to govern or get anything done without democratic votes. ic votes. joining me now is the former department of homeland security chief of staff, miles taylor, the author of blowback, a warning to save democracy from trump's revenge. also with me, the msnbc contributor, president and ceo of voter latino. so, miles, ntg now has two cosponsors to vacate, but they have not triggered it yet. what has that signaled to you? >> it signals to me that the same republicans who fomented

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path that these folks have to put together. >> the alarm bell that ought to go off at the white house is the economic number. if this election is not about abortion rights, they're in trouble. >> i think it's about the economy and education. i think a lot of parents right now are seeing their kids are way far behind. who is talking to me about education? the republicans are, and the economy as we see it there might be inflationary pressures that are going to come. everybody is saying it, but it looks like it might actually happen. i think the challenge for the biden administration is to remind the american people who got them out of the pandemic and the real checks. one of the things that we found in voter latino was that when people supported donald trump that they believed he literally gave them the checks that he signed, and i think it's getting the american people to understand it's far more complex and who actually got us out of the incredible pandemic.

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>> the dam onesie gets me every time. >> they hope something changes. >> i want nothing more than to have kids. but i am terrified to be president again. >> -- nbc news, austin, texas. >> but this for more, maria three succumb, are the president of voter latino, she's also the former board member for planned parenthood. maria, absolutely heartbreaking, i wonder what you make of this lawsuit. >> it's a long time coming, and so sad that so many women have had to be sitting on the brink of almost dying, and not only having to grieve the loss a filled pregnancy, but i shouldn't hold these individuals to account. let's be clear, this is not about science. this is not about making sure that a woman is okay, nor the fetus, this is all about control.

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what he cannot do. >> does it ever give you pause, that there are situations that have happened after this law, where lives been put at risk? >> yes. our mission is to save lives, so the fact that some women's lives have been jeopardize, it's something that we take very seriously. >> amanda and josh are still grieving their loss. >> the dam onesie gets me every time. >> they hope something changes. >> i want nothing more than to have kids. but i am terrified to be president again. >> -- nbc news, austin, texas. >> but this for more, maria three succumb, are the president of voter latino, she's also the former board member for planned parenthood. maria, absolutely heartbreaking, i wonder what you make of this lawsuit. >> it's a long time coming, and so sad that so many women have had to be sitting on the brink of almost dying, and not only having to grieve the loss a filled pregnancy, but i shouldn't hold these

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georgia, arizona, texas, north carolina, the potential where they have to flip states, that number actually creeps up even higher. the reason it creeps up very high, because we're not talking about republican/democrat in the traditional way. the moment there is a maga republican, you see a large group of latinos who flip over to the democratic side because they understand what maga republicans mean for their own personal safety. voter latino, we did polls because we were seeing these polls showing the deflection. it turns out that when it comes to the bread and butter issues, they're absolutely right. al sharpton is absolutely right. they want people to figure out how they can make end's meet. but what is happening in the democratic party, they are not communicating with folks at the local level of the great things the democrats are doing. what i mean by that, we did a poll and found close to 59% of latino voters, while they believed in infrastructure, had no idea who is responsible for

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so that was one of the reasons folks weren't paying attention to it. that said, the issue of the border patrol specifically, because that is really what she was running on. she's the wife of a border patrol agent. when democrats are saying they're going to demolish i.c.e. on the border, you can imagine that not playing well. it is one of the biggest employers that a strong middle-class family can count on. the democrats need a frank conversation of what they mean by law enforcement and what they mean by making reforms in the police and at the border. but i also want to make sure that we are all clear. i think we're all saying the same thing. when there is a maga republican on the ballot and you're a latino, you know exactly what that means. you know that it terrorizes your family. you know the moment you walk out there, doesn't matter if you are an american citizen, it creates a chilling effect among latinos and their rights. so what we're finding at voter latino, we are the largest voter outfit and we're effective.

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pence's life in danger during the capitol riot when he refused to go along. >> approximately 40 feet. that's all there was. 40 feet between the vice president and the mob. >> i'll talk to one of the committee members, democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland. plus, the economy. prices everywhere going up. >> everyone had it up to here really. >> interest rates too. >> we're strongly committed to bringing inflation back down. >> leading to a sinking stock market. >> this week was brutal. today was brutal. >> over fears of a coming recession. my guests this morning, former treasury secretary larry summers, who says a recession is likely. also, thanks to the troubled economy and president biden's aides, democrats are worried about the president's 2024 chances and whether he should even run again. joining me for insight and analysis are nbc news chief white house correspondent, peter alexander. maria teresa kumar president of voter latino. republican strategist brendan

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of guns. >> right now there's 28 million plus people in texas. you know how many mental hospital beds there are available, no more than 1,000 in the whole state of texas, and that's sad, and i'm not -- look, guns play a role in this, too, i'm not downplaying that either and i don't want to get into a second amendment but it took a person to pull the trigger of that gun so we need it address both issues. >> joining me now is the president and ceo of voter latino. she's heading to ufld toe honor the victims and to host a call to action in san antonio on saturday. thank you. always great to see you. great to see you. let's talk about this for a second. there was this op-ed that one of my producers noticed and sent out to our team which was really bracing. tea called i'm from uvalde. i'm not surprised this happened.

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>> so the lisa murkowski, the differences you don't have a large ethnic population where she's from. in arizona, 30% of the base is latino. by the time senator sinema will get on the ballot they're gonna have 162,000 newly minted eligible voters that have just turned 18 within the last four years. the fact, this government to remind viewers, the president biden won arizona by less than 12,000 votes. these are absolutely opportunities as anything we will contest the primaried opens up a big deal to find new dynamic votes and voices that really serve the interests of the arizona people. we to remind folks that it wasn't just the filibuster, the filibuster if we cannot access the voting everything else that arizona seems to care about whether it's the, environment because they don't have water, whether it's access to health care, whether it's access to -- none of that is possible because there's an obstructionist government right now that's being held by the minority party and is being espoused by the minority of americans not the majority of americans. >> teresa kumar, as president and ceo of voter latino again launching this new campaign, a cat accountability campaign against sinema. is launching

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