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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:33:00

voting equipment in coffee county, d.a. willis writes that scott hall and trump's justice department lawyer, jeffrey clark, spoke on the phone for 63 minutes. a few days before that call, clark had tried to get the acting attorney general to sign a letter claiming the department of justice had found evidence of fraud that may have impacted the election results, particularly in georgia. when that attorney general wouldn't sign it, trump reportedly considered firing him. and appointing jeffrey clark to be attorney general, so that he would do it instead. now, in the midst of all of that, jeffrey clark allegedly spent more than an hour on the phone with this random bail bondsman in georgia, that no one had ever heard of. so as much as the coffee county breach was a failure, it appears to have been a failure that was coordinated at the highest levels of the white house. and that, my friends, has echoes of another famously failed break-in from our nation's history. >> the burglars broke through a fire escape drawer that led to

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:42:00

history of watergate in its entirety are going to benefit from this conversation. but talk to me more about the fact that coffee county officials did not to try to conceal their activities, and the idea that they might have thought they were doing the right thing by helping the then president. >> well, absolutely. it was very blatant, the security cameras, as you pointed out, showed them being escorted right into the voting machine area from the public. it showed them actually tampering with the machines. one of the three has said in an audio recording that was discovered in a civil lawsuit, that they image the computers of all the voting equipment, they scanned all of the ballots. they were very blatant about what they were doing. they purport to contend that they had, quote, permission, close quote. to do this.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:42:00

is shed machine area secured from the public. sitting on it showed them actually a recording tampering with the machines. that was one of the three has said in an audio recording that was discovered in the shuffle motion discovered in a civil lawsuit, that saw thanks to the computer smoke all the voting equipment they that they imaged the computers scanned all of all the voting equipment, the memo they scanned all of the ballots. that the grumbling they were very blatant about about what they were what they were doing. doing the report to contend they purport to contend that that they had they had, quote, permission, permission close quote close quote. to this phone course think it's against the law

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:32:00

effective break-in in american history. so why does this matter? well, fulton county d. a., fani willis, lays all of that out in her indictment. first off, the tech company that this group used to scan these voting machines was hired by trump lawyer, sidney powell. she was allegedly instrumental in orchestrating this plot. second off, just days before they allegedly breached the voting equipment in coffee county, d. a. willis writes that scott hall and trump's justice department lawyer, jeffrey clark, spoke on the phone for 63 minutes. a few days before that call, clark had tried to get the acting attorney general to sign a letter claiming the department of justice had found evidence of fraud that may have impacted the election results, particularly in georgia. when that attorney general wouldn't sign it, trump reportedly considered firing him and appointing jeffrey clark to be attorney general, so that he would do it instead. now, in the midst of all of that, jeffrey clark allegedly spent more than an hour on the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:49:00

equipment software, and personal voter information. the stolen data was then distributed to other members of the enterprise, including members in other states. similarly, jack smith's federal indictment ended with the allegation that trump was part of a conspiracy against the right to vote and have one's vote counted. it accuses that trump and his confederates deliberately eroded trust in the electoral process by pursuing unlawful means of subverting the election results. among the four individuals charged with breaching voting equipment and the georgia indictments are sydney powell, a former member of trump's legal team, kathy latham, of former schoolteacher and a warmer -- of the coffee county gop, who escorted from belize into the coffee camp the gop's, and mr., hampton was tasked with overseeing coffee counties elections. look at getting these in fizzles of the coffee county office was at computer forensics a team to hire

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:50:00

electric -- according to the indictment, a team working for the firm, sullivan structure, along with powell, traveled to coffee county yoshinori seventh with the purpose of quote, willfully tampering with said electronic ballot markers and tabulating machines. howell had previously ditch past the same perm to michigan, to copy election data from rural and -- county voting machines. according to the indictment, the illicitly obtained data was stored on a secure server and access by multiple trump allies and election deniers across the country. joining the four individuals charged are a slew of unindicted coconspirators who participated in the breach of voting equipment, leveraging their testimony to potentially escape formal charges. pack 91 of the georgia indictment, for example, accuses sidney powell accused of emailing the firms sullivan strickler and instructing them to send the copy of all data obtained from michigan to three unnamed coconspirators labeled

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:48:00

republican players who actively participated in a multi state effort to breach voting systems and compromised sensitive voter data. according to the indictment quote, members of the enterprise, including several of the defendants, corruptly conspired in fulton county, georgia, and elsewhere to unlawfully access secure voting equipment and voter data. the fulton county district attorney, fani willis, zeroes in on the breeches of voting equipment that occurred in coffee county, georgia. one of the country's earliest known breaches of voting equipment. four of the 19 defendants charged under georgia's racketeering statue are accused of breaching dominion voting machines and sharing those files with other election deniers, serving as part of a broader effort to overturn the 2020 election. quote, several of the defendants corruptly, let me put it this way, several of the defendants corruptly conspired to unlawfully access secure voting equipment and voter data, and stole data, including ballots images, voting

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:59:00

nation's first-ever law inside our threats. we made it a felony to do that type of behavior. we added whistleblower protections, increased our physical security. there was going to be 20 47 cameras. there is going to be swipe access to where the voting equipment is, along with other security upgrades. and one of the things is the rest of the nation needs to follow colorado's leads. this insider threat of election tampering is not over. many states have not passed the reforms that colorado passed, and we need to very quickly that for the 2024 election. there is somebody who may or may not be an unindicted consent coconspirator in this indictment in georgia. who had said to the washington post, when asked about can't really make sense that random people could be heard by a campaign to go into an election's office to get a thumb drive into downloaded. this person's response, she's a lawyer, said, there's nothing

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 15:00:00

wrong with. that county wants to double check their machines, they're entitled to get that kind of verification outside. can that happen? can random companies be hired to come in and check machinery and download data the way that it's alleged happened in georgia. >> absolutely not. it's very probably under state law, am facing various felony for doing exactly that. also legal under federal law. the idea that just a random person has unrestricted access to voting equipment is a huge security breach. it leads to the decertification of voting equipment. and make no mistake, the trump world purpose is to sow chaos. to sow chaos. to use those types of scenarios as a way to push out further disinformation across the country. it is highly illegal.

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