we look forward to seeing that kick off. that's going to do it for a wednesday edition of "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ the top democrat in the u.s. senate majority leader harry reid has now mentioned the bill nra koch brothers this year more than 140 times. >>er in in it to make the money. an attempt to buy our democracy. it's dishonest, deceptive, farce and unfair. >> it is wrong. incorrect. [ laughter ] erroneous. [ laughter ] >> even the keystone debate, mr. president, they're one of the main owners of all that stuff up there. that ugly tar stuff in canada. they are, if not the largest, second largest owner of that stuff up there. [ laughter ] good morning.
hey will. >> good morning, it's wednesday, may the 14th, on set, along with me, we've got joe here that's here. >> that's all. >> msnbc. >> it's a good show, right? >> yes. >> you can't always predict who is going to be here. >> it's exciting. >> it's interesting, it remains the name of the show. mike barnicle is here. former communications director for george w. bush, nicolle wallace. >> jon stewart went in last night. and landed another blow right here. >> this guy spent millions fighting online gambling. tens of millions fighting organized labor. in the 2012 presidential election he gave $90 million to republican candidates. perhaps because he thought he would help him take on quote,
radical islam and unions. yeah, that's right. laugh harry reid is going to crush this guy. >> so don't pick on him. >> wait? sorry, what did you say there? don't pick on the billionaire that puts money in politics. >> he's not in this for money. he's in it because he has certain ideological views. [ laughter ] >> what the [ bleep ] difference does that make? [ laughter ] what are his ideological objections to online that the largest gambling casino has? >> i can't tell overt internet who is under age. i can't tell whose got financial difficulties. i can't tell who is not gaming responsibly. >> but if you come to my casino -- [ laughter ] you don't enter without answering a very detailed
financial solvency questionnaire. >> if you lost john stevens, you lu lost everything. he didn't make a distinction between the koches and the adelsons. >> and also speaking of "daily show" skits, let's continue with news about karl rove. karl rove is dullinging down that hillary clinton should be prepared for scrutiny about her health if she decides to run in 2016. the republican strategist pushed back who claimed he openly claimed the former first lady had brain damage. he said, of course, she doesn't have brain damage. still, it's pretty clear where he's trying to aim voters' attention. >> my point was, if hillary clinton were going to run for president, but she would not be
human if this didn't enter into consideration. this will be a topic in the 2016. they will be 69. she will be 77 if she serves two terms and this ends up being an issue. >> clinton's spokesperson blasted rove's remarks saying hillary clinton has recovered 100% from the blood clot from 2012. a republican and the white house getting involved as well. >> this was not clever. this wasn't an insinuation. this was karl rove running head first into a brick wall. nothing drives people away from a decent office than this kind of attack. they say why would i put my family through this. it weakens -- in both parties, it weakens the fabric of both. >> here's what i say about cognitive capacity, that dr. rove might have been the last person on election night to recognize and acknowledge that
the president won re-election in the state of ohio. we'll leave it at that. >> go back to the newt gingrich comment it weakens the fabric. that's tough talk coming from newt. we go fresh off the thrilla in manila. we'll let you be the one around the table to defend karl rove this moraning. he didn't say brain damage -- >> he said she was wearing a kind of glasses that were associated with severe brain trauma or something like that. >> which i find this fascinating because she wore coke bottle glasses in college. you have ever seen those pictures of hillary in the late '60s and early '70s? what's karl thinking? >> i think she couldn't wear her
sunglasses, she they gave her a pair of glasses. >> she was wearing the same style four years ago and her traumatic brain injury didn't get in the way of being the most successful secretary of state in history. >> let me try to explain karl. what karl -- >> let me try to explain karl. >> hey, i feel different. karl didn't just stumble into this line of questioning about hillary clinton's health, okay? he's one of the most prepared and deliberate speakers. and when he gave speeches at the white house, people were always doing -- you know, reading research. so this karl's nature, is that things are talked through. he plans these types of thing. >> so are you telling me that he thought through this before saying this? >> well, i think he thought
through and is probably, you know, maybe not in front of -- >> what's his strategy? >> well, i think injecting questions about her health crisis from a few years ago is something that karl thinks is fair game. and i think that the fact that we're having a three-day conversation about hillary's age and health, he is in this objective. >> it's not about hillary's age and health. it's about whether karl rove suffered brain damage. >> well, to some. but some of the people that may be thinking about 2016 have definitely given some thought to -- >> she is giving it all she has. >> that's all i've got. >> karl rove -- you know what -- >> can we go back to jon stewart, is there anything else? >> you gave us an ending. >> i mean -- >> listen, katrina was easy compared to this.
>> well, when you rebecome president, you release the results of your colonoscopy. >> you know what karl was trying to do. >> if she becomes president, there will be countless discussions, over the years she will release her -- >> this comes directly from the stupid part of it you're talking about. ronald reagan got inaugurated at 69. when he starts at 69 and leads at 77, i think about ronald reagan. that's not a bad thing. >> there anything that they can device to try and diminish hillary clinton, they're going to use brain damage, benghazi, boko haram now. that's what this is. >> that's all this is. >> jim peters -- go ahead. >> i was going to follow up on what nicole was saying, she's exactly right, this is not
accidental. hillary's health is something that democratic strategist have been whippering about for about a year now, when they talk about what can ruin her candidacy, it's always a question of her health. here's a case of the most public visible case really spilling out into the open. now, one thing i think this is not, and you've heard some of this chatter over the last couple of days, i don't think this is sexist. i think you would have had these questions come up about biden. >> it's ageist. >> nicholl, remember i told you, they released that ad, how many houses did john mccain have? well, he can't quite remember. >> that was an attack against his family wealth and his age. >> and his age, right. >> these questions were going to come out, anyway. i think the question is whether or not karl rove has temporarily taken it off the table by being
so crass about it. >> but the other thing that shouldn't get lost, it is interesting, look at how the clintons respond. their first response is pretty funny. she's 100%. but they escalated throughout the day to near hysteria through the end of the day, whoever gave the initial response should be given the job of rapid response and whoever gave the second or two should be the understudy. >> for people that don't sit around sets like this or don't talk to journalists, there have been questions off camera, speculation. i only say this because jerry was talking about republicans. it wasn't just republican a lot of reporters were worried about her health. of course, they had absolutely no evidence whatsoever. they were worried. >> they were worried with justification after that fall. >> with some justification, it took her a while to come back
but it was speculation. and karl rove didn't help himself and he didn't help the republican party by speculating like he did. >> when we get the results of all of these personal data, colonoscopies and everything else, i think we'll find out she's healthy as a horse. >> there you have it. >> marco is clarifying remarks? >> yeah, going back to the climate change remarks. senator rubio found himself the target of unwanted headlines after he recently entered the climate change debate talking at the national press club. the potential 2016 presidential contender tried to clarify remarks he made on sunday. here are the original remarks and what he had to say about them yesterday. >> i don't agree with the notion that some are putting out there including scientists that somehow that are actions that have is an impact on our climate. >> let me get this straight, you do not think that the human activity, the production of co2
is caution changes? >> i do not believe that human activity is causing changes the way the scientists are portraying. i do not propose the laws they pass will do anything about it. >> headlines notwithstanding, of course, the climate is changing because climate is always changing, that's a measurable you can see. there is climate change. i've never conceded that the climate is not changing. that's not the question before me as a policymaker. the question before me as a policymaker, is that if we ban all coal in the u.s., if we ban all carbon emission information the united states, will it change the dramatic changes in climate and the dramatic weather impacts that we're now reading about? and anyone that says that we will, it not being truthful. but for you to go out and say if you pass this bill that i am proposing this will somehow lead to us have less tornadoes and hurricanes, that's not an accurate statement. >> seems rational to me. >> listen, i may be out of step with my party on this.
i don't know where you have to live to think that the climate isn't changing dramatically. and miami is one of those places where they haven't seen dramatic change. it's not the same thing as acknowledging that climate change is real. >> i guess what's interesting about this, i'm not exactly sure who marco's audience is. he says he believes in climate change. i do believe, like he said, that we're not going to pass legislation they're going to stop tornados and hurricanes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. and the left is -- >> but that's a defensible position. >> that is a more defensible position. but i'm just saying all the republicans i've talked to. and i've been talking to a lot of them for a very long time over the past four or five years, they believe in climate change, they believe that humans are responsible for climate change. the only thing they don't believe that the federal government could combat and
impose massive cut jacks because it makes extremist and trillion they'res. >> without getting china and other parts of the world that are doing more. >> they're doing more, actually. >> right. >> so in a time in the world, everybody is saying, steve, we'll go to you, we're going to be in competition with china for the next 100 years and china is going to outcompete us. at that time, we're supposed to usually disarm and let the chinese continue to damage the atmosphere more than us? and we're supposed to be worried about what tom steyer and other people say? i don't believe that. and even if we do what we do in that direction, without putting millions of americans out of work. >> i agree. first, the same people, the middle people, do want to have
some kind of coordinated change to climate change. >> they're so effective? >> the reason, nicole, they are not effective, if you're a country on your way up, and you don't have all the resources and you say, wait a minute, you guys have polluted the air for 200 years, don't i get a chance to pollute the air for a while while i'm economically developed. china, they don't have any clean energy. they have coal. and imported oil and really expensive natural gas and that's it. and they don't have any nuclear yet. so it's going to be very hard for them to do what they have to do, but he have to do it. and it thirdly, joe, there are policies, nonetheless, there are policies out there that we could put in place that would destroy millions of jobs that would put us on a path for a more responsive behavior. for example, we've not increased
the gas tax since 1983. the highway trust fund is going broke. we could raise the gas tax, rebate that to americans so it didn't cost jobs and get more balanced. >> jeremy peters on the hill, you look at polls, and i don't think climate change is at the top when it comes to intensity. i would suspect because of that we're not going to see another pass or do anything on the climate for quite some time. democrat stride in 2009. even the president was reluctant to get involved but they dragged him into that battle at the last minute. any legislation on the hill that marco rubio would have to be concerned about voting on before the election and the rest of the candidates? >> there was a bill that fell apart this week in the senate, an energy bill that was actually quite modest, the fact that it fell apart in a filibuster just shows how difficult it is to get even the smallest things through on climate. >> what -- well, you have your moderate democrats that like the
landrieus and others who do not support this legislation? >> no, it fell over keystone. there was a land mass that landrieu and bagich wanted to approve. the white house has not decided what it's going to do. and if it ultimately decides it's not going after this, they are going to wait until after the legislation to do that because they don't want it to hurt senators like begich and landreau. >> i thought it was fascinating having the canadian ambassador here last week. he kept doing the talking points that i thought came from the
koch brothers, i asked him where he got it, he said, oh, the state department study. >> our state department? >> our state department. >> this is one of the most widely overpoliticized decisions. >> a lot of very rich liberals don't want barack obama to pass this legislation. and what do they have to worry about? because they got millions and millions of dollars. it's just the 50,000 people that aren't going to have jobs because of it. i hope that makes you feel better. go to your yacht, polish it -- you won't polish it, you'll have somebody else polish it. that would be a really good paying job that makes you feel bad about yourself. have them buff your fingernails, too. coming up on "morning joe," we're going to be talking to senators rob portman and john tester about some of the most pressing issues in washington including the keystone pipeline and the controversy surrounding
the v.a. that's atrocious. and former yankee great willie randolph is going to be on set. and larry kudlow and joy reid. and miles nadal. former secretary time geithner is standing by. first, though, not fun, bill karins. >> across the country, just a crazy weather pattern. record highs on the coast. it's been snowing a couple days in colorado. how about this yesterday, it was 52 in boston. that was it. in d.c., it was 92. 40-degree swing in the northeast alone. this morning, we are tracking showers and a few storms up there around the capital district, albany, schenectady and troy. and albany you've got showers, pittsburgh, a shower or two. later this afternoon, cooler today in d.c. and baltimore than yesterday. this is where we should be this
time of year in the 70s. chance of storms from pittsburgh to buffalo. and how about out west. the drought is bad enough. now we're getting one heat wave an another. areas that don't see a lot. san francisco, san diego, 90s to 100 today. how about this for l.a., 101 today. 100 tomorrow. we finally cool it off by the weekend but the fire danger is really high. and in the middle of the country, i mean, it's cold. it's a chilly, cold morning. a lot of extremes out there. if we're going to get any tornadoes 0 are severe weather, we'll watch out for you from nashville to louisville, back up to the ohio valley. more "morning joe" when we continue. we'll be right back. ♪ when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here
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former u.s. treasury secretary timothy geithner. i'm sure they pull put u.s. treasury secretary. it could have been canada, luxembourg. but, no, this guy was former u.s. treasury secretary. he's out with a new book "stress test: reflections on financial crisis." wait wait to read this. i'm glad you finally got more people in the treasury department. let's start there. you had a couple of dogs wandering the hallways the first year. it was actually hard. that was a challenge. >> you could hear the echoes of footsteps. >> you had. but that first year, it was so shocking to us that you were going through the financial crisis of our lifetime and you couldn't get staffed. you. >> we had great people, we really did. >> i know you had great people. it took you a while, though.
what was the challenge? don't say you had great people again. you didn't just win the nfl -- okay, the super bowl. talk about the tough start. >> well, the world was burning still. remember, in january '09, the country was falling off the cliff, complete was shrinking at the rate of 9%. we had already put trillions of dollars in the financial system, but things were still frozen or falling apart. >> right. >> we had to find a way how to right the ship, how to land a plane safely. yeah, we had challenges. >> off the top, steve ratnor. >> ratnorwas fabulous. >> obviously, this book has ignited talk about what happened. different points of view, left, right, all that stuff. looking back, i think the central concern people have is
did we do too much for the banks? did we give them too much money, too cheaply, not fire enough ceos, more pain from the share 408der, more pain from the executives who got bonuses. how do you feel about that? was there stuff that could have been done differently, i know you had legal constraints but wasn't there something that could can be done differently? >> i think the huge damage done by the crisis and all the bad people that caused the crisis, they say, really, seriously, you couldn't bring a tougher measure of justice more quickly for people. but that was a classic panic. we were risking the great depression. and the first challenge was to land the plane safely. once we landed the plane, we moved quickly to try to clean up the system and bring a much better response. it's true, you could look back and say, was it tough enough on
them? but the first obligation, the most important obligation was to protect the risk of massive unemployment, a great depression. we did that, it wasn't messy, but we did that effectively. better than any government has in the last 100 years in a financial crisis. >> you write about being handed talking points by a white house official -- >> it was actually my treasury colleague. >> i'm not trying script you but suggesting messages that you had a pretty visser ral negative reaction to. i certainly have been in the position that they may have been in of wanting a cabinet secretary to echo a message. seeing it from your perspective -- i know you worked with some of my former colleague in the bush administration. you can talk about how political your job got and how difficult that was? >> i think one of the most important tests of government in a crisis is the ability to put policy above politics. >> it's impossible, isn't it? >> no, it's not.
in fact, i think that was a great moment for the united states. if you look at that moment, you know, the transition between a republican and a democratic president, you know, the world at the edge of a great depression. you had two presidents with bipartisan support, mostly from democrats at that point. basically put politics aside. and do what's necessary to help pull the country back from the abyss. it was a pretty big moment. >> with the t.a.r.p. and all of that? >> with the first to break the back of the panel. then the stimulus to put money back in the hands directly of the american people. and then the range of the financial system. i got a pretty good test of government at a terrible time. and we passed that test much better than other governments who sat there, were paralyzed by their politics. or played politics with the crisis. a pretty good moment for the bank. >> you mentioned in january 2009, we were on the brink. that was a term we heard a lot.
the country's about to go over the cliff in the fall of 2008. what does that mean explicitly and specifically? i mean, what would have happened if we hadn't taken that step back? >> take a look at the great depression, there's no memory of it. you know, people didn't live through it. but in the great depression, unemployment went to 25%. and gdp fell by 25%. and it took a decade to try to get back to some measure of security for people. and that's because we allow it as a country, a financial panic torsion escalate and bring the system to collapse. and why does that happen, it's like the lights going out. it's like the power not functioning. if the company can't get oxygen, people can't borrow and businesses fire people on a brutal scale and people are trying to protect themselves. that produces a certain set of conditions, panic leads to crash. that's why it's so damaging. and then, of course, they have massive innocent victims in that
content. >> so how close were we? >> right at the edge. paulson wrote he thought we were three days away from the atms not working. people were talking about burying gold in their backyards. you could hear panic and fear in the voice of the leaders of the world and largest corporations at that time. >> mika does that. unrelated to the economy. jeremy peters is in washington, "the new york times" has got a question for the secretary, mr. secretary. >> mr. geithner, one of the prime takeaways of this book is just how complicated your relationship with larry summers is. he promoted you to various senior positions. he was your mentor. and as you know, the president was strongly considering him for chairman. federal reserve, twice, actually. do you think that president obama made a mistake by not picking him? >> no, i think that janet yellen
is going to be excellent. i watched her make judgments at a very complicated time. and i think she's going to be an excellent chairman. i have just huge respect for larry summers, i think month more talented person in the country. henry kissinger said about larry summers, you should give him a permanent office in the oval office to vent any idea. he's a great person to work for. he's a pretty challenging, demanding guy. i used to say, what matters is the ratio between the thrill and the torture. and with larry, the thrill was -- >> higher? >> -- much greater than the torture. >> a couple issues before we wrap it up, one, what you had to say about elizabeth warren's hearing. she said she were made for youtube hearings, sort of show trial, explain. >> well, that was sort of a
gentle way to put it. >> like they were witchhunt, talk about that? >> i've got a lot of respect for her. >> it doesn't sound like it. >> i do. she did a great job in standing up with the agency and protecting from a form of abuse. she was excellent. there's a lot of oversight process. >> what made them show trials? >> well, you know, people didn't like what we were doing. it was unpopular stuff. it was essential, necessary stuff, very effective stuff but it was deeply offensive to people. it looked like we were giving money to the arsonists. the core paradox of what it takes to break a financial panic to keep the lights on. and there are going to be collateral beneficiaries of that. and that's deeply offensive. she gave a lost voice to that concern and she was very eloquent in making that case. >> speaking of arsonists, a
handful of banks still control 50%. too big has gotten even big. >> you're right, you always worry about too big to fail. and this is something we should always worry about. it's like a federal war. you should be on it. >> the big bank's concern, still approaching 50%? >> well that's not the way to think about it. that risk for the country is say much lesser risk today because of reforms we put in place. i'll give you examples. we mate capital requirements -- the limits on risk much, much more conservative than they were before the crisis. >> why? >> we had much better tools to put banks on the line when they screw up. >> let's say -- they're not going to because they've strengthened. let's say citi has a crisis, we're bailing them out or do we let citi fail? >> we're in a much better
position to let them fail that doesn't do too much damage. >> was it a mistake not to save lehman brothers? >> it's not like financial security. we don't give presidents a set of tools to react. we don't do that because of other concerns. we don't want to leave the market with expectation. >> if you could do it all over again, would you? >> if we had the authority -- >> with the authority, would you save lehman brothers? >> you don't want to save everybody in a financial crisis. it's a mistake to do that. you have to make sure you do -- we didn't have this authority until after the panic. we want to make sure we can protect the rest from the failure of the rest. you want to make them fail -- to use a different metaphor, you want to draw a fire brig around
the couordinates. >> should they have been saved? >> in retrospect, with full knowledge at that time, what we should have done, we would have escalated much more quickly to prevent the panic from spreading. of course, now, we ultimately did that, but it took a lot more work because the fire was burning too hot at that point. >> all right, tim geithner, thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you, nice to see you guys. >> the book is "stress test: reflections on the financial crisis." you can read exempts on our website mojo/msnbc.com. >> first, americans are hitting the bottle harder than ever before, we'll explain why in your morning papers and "morning joe" sports next.
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all right. let's take a look at some of the morning papers. "the wall street journal" crews, are racing to save hundreds of miners after a deadly accident in turkey. at least 201 people are dead with more than 200 others still trapped deep underground. almost a mile under there.
the coal mine is located in the town. soma, about 150 miles from istanbul. nearly 800 people were in the mine when a fire triggered an explosion. the fire is under investigation. two children are recovering from serious injuries after a gust of wind swept away one of those bouncy houses. >> my son loves those. >> oh, my gosh. >> this is that bouncy house that parents like myself. >> and me. >> and you. have been putting in your yards for your young kids' birthday parties. three children were playing inside one of these bouncy houses when it was ripped from its stakes and sent it flying high in the air. a witness took this photo that we were showing. you one child escaped with only minor injuries. >> look at that. >> look how high those three little children are up inside that bouncy house. one escaped with no injuries.
another boy has some broken bones after falling 15 to 20 feet in a parking lot. while the third has a serious is head injuries after landinging on a car. this is horrifying. terrifying. >> horrific. >> they're usually staked down when you see them in the yard. but maybe that's not strong enough when the wind picks up. from the parade of papers the san francisco chronicle, google wrote the global web of dominance got more difficult. the right to be forgotten. meaning google can be forced to erase links to content about individual people on its search engines. that includes documents. >> the quote, other documents, very important for mike barnicle. if there's ever going to be a senior staffer for elizabeth warren, he will not pass through the background check. >> that's correct. >> because of the quote, other
documents. >> other documents that are in mike barnicle's computer main frame. >> your confirmation are going to be interesting. >> legal experts say this decision will only impact operations in europe and citizens of the e.u. and from the l.a. times, army sergeant kyle white is the latest recipient of the congressional medal of money for this heroism in afghanistan in 2007. white was honored for his actions for his ambush where he helped other soldiers and maintained radio contact all while injured. some were present at the ceremony. he's the seventh living recipient for a medal of honor for actions in iraq and afghanistan. sergeant white is going to be joining us in the studio on monday. >> can't wait to meet him. the telegraph, the united states has become the world's biggest consumer of wine, all right, passing france for the first time in history. >> that's something to be proud of, right. >> a new study said wine
drinking continues to climb at a record pace, meanwhile, the popularity of wine is fading in france. u.s. consumers bought 2.9 billion liters of wine. still, the average frenchman drinks six times more wine than the american. so per capita was trailing behind. we got to get to work on that. willie, nba playoff action. >> a wild one between the clippers and thunder. let's go to the fourth quarter. okc had been down about 13 points with four minutes left. kevin pierce. and durant on the break lays it in. a two-point game. clippers quick inbound to chris paul. he turns it over. no foul called. the ball ends up out of bounds. this one is reviewed. and in a controversial call, the thunder get the ball back. so 11 seconds to play. another controversial call.
russell westbrook of oklahoma city is fouled shooting a three. he hits all three foul shots. the thunder take a 105-104 lead. with six seconds on the clock, chris paul is stripped. he loses the ball again. the thunder come back for a 105-104 win. and a 3-2 series lead. clipsers head coach doc rivers was steaming after the game. >> that's our ball. we win the game, and we got robbed because of that ball. it's clear, everybody in the arena saw it everybody was shocked when they said oklahoma city. that was our ball. we got two more games to play. but that could be a series-defining call. and that's not right. >> wow, that's pretty strong. the series goes back to l.a. society clippers get a chance to even the series back there. the wizards blew out the pacers. they were on the brink of
elimination. 102-79. it's coming back to d.c. tonight, the nets fight for their lives in miami. miami can close that out, and the spurs can do the same against the blazers. >> what about the rangers, down 3-1. >> 3-1 in the series come all the way back against the mighty pens. a couple of good one in the stanley cup playoffs. blackhawks and wild in game six. and the rangers and penguins in a huge game seven. >> and he scores! patrick kane, one hand, and chicago is headed to the western conference final. >> carried back off the wing and worked on by mcdonough. swatted on the cross. score! and the rangers are going to the conference final. >> rangers come all the way back down, 3-1 in the series to win game seven. they'll face the winner of tonight's other game seven
between the canadiens and the bruins. the blackhawks will face the winner of the ducks/kings. that series is tonight. >> can the bruins do it, mike? >> yes, they can. >> well, those are two evenly matched teams. it's go to be a great game. there will be fights tonight. >> if you can get boston and new york in the conference finals. still ahead from "morning joe" from the men who brought you freakonomics. and at 7:00, magic strikes back. he's heard enough from donald sterling. his reaction. he says enough is enough. we'll be right back on "morning joe." [ brian ] in a race,
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she's faxed them from the south of france. "the wall street journal" -- >> did she bury her gold in the south of france or westchester county, what do you think? >> put it evenly. >> you never know when the people are going to rise up. i mean if marie antonette had buried her gold in two different places she might still be with us. >> "the wall street journal" editorial board writes this. harry reid has essentially shut down the senate as a place to debate and vote down policy. he's refused to vote on on all but nine amendments since july. mr. reid is worried some of those amendments might pass with support from democrats, thus embarrassing a white house that opposes them. not too long ago it was understood that any senator could get a floor vote if he wants it. the minority party, often democrats, used this right of amendment to sponsor votes that would sometimes put the majority on the spot.
it's called politics. rightly understood, this meant the senate debated national priorities and worked its bipartisan will. >> jeremy peters, i've been about cushion harry reid for a couple years, what's with this "wall street journal" editorial? >> i think often when you're talking outrage along these lines, it's often a little bit stronger when you are the person who is on the brunt of the perceived injustices. >> right. >> and in this case, i think that's what's happening with "the wall street journal." i doubt that they would be crying so loudly if this were republicans and not a democrat. >> but, jeremy, we heard a thousand stories about those terrible republicans that won't pass democratic leases of legislation through the house. the question is can republicans fairly make -- and i'm not leading you here, i'm curious, can we not fairly make the aim argument about harry reid not
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a lot going on in congress yesterday. there was a hearing. i mean, there's so much going on, boom, boom, boom. >> real quick, there's a snake in the bathroom at texas a&m. a 12-foot rock python. came in through the back door. a little control and a bucket to get rid of it. it was an aggressive one. it was somebody's pet who got loose. >> it happens. it happens. willie, you were talking about it yesterday on the judiciary committee hearing. >> were you watching that? >> i actually was. >> very clean people. i was on the judiciary committee. very clean people.
hungry people, but a clean people. >> but those hearings are long. >> you get hungry. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank you and member connors for your willingness to work to make progress on this issue, and in making sure that other surveillance cannot be used in a similar way. i'm pleased this be addressed in the amendment. >> take a look, willie, on the right, a lot of ear wax, this happens. >> check it out. >> oh, my god. >> wax smeared on the teeth. >> seconds, anyone? >> oh! >> oh. oh, oh -- ear wax. that's disgusting. >> who eats it? >> it's awful. >> enjoy your breakfast. >> oh! that's awful. >> republican or democrat, joe
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♪ jews, when they get successful, they will help their people. and some of the african-americans, maybe i'll get in trouble again, they don't want to help anybody. [ laughter ] >> maybe? maybe you'll get in trouble again? [ laughter ] jews help blacks -- eww -- unless what he's doing is workshoping new material for
donald sterling literally comedy jam. jeremy peters with us. and with us from washington, nbc news correspondent and host of "the daily rundown" chuck todd. winning columnist and associate editor of "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson. we're going to talk in two seconds about the sterling controversy. but, chuck todd, we had a lot of elections last night. a lot of races. a couple have stood out. what are your thoughts? >> well look, it's a generational change in nebraska. this is a couple of young guys taking over the nebraska republican party. pete ricketts tried to run for the senate a few years back now is a heavy favorite to be governor. and ben sass. i think what's unique about sass, a lot of groups are saying, hey, we want a race, we want a race. but the establishment is split in this race. >> now, sass went after mitch
mcconnell a way back. >> he did. this is about mcconnell. but paul join was for sass. i had sass on my show yesterday. he said he'd vote for mcconnell as leader. she'd try to put an end to that. i think he's going to be a little moron johnson than he's going to be ted cruz. a lot of people are trying to figure out where is this guy going to fit on the senate. i'd put him more on the johnson side. >> he's now a big favorite to win state wide, right? >> slightly. absolutely. and shelly is a heavy favorite in west virginia. be west virginia's first republican senator in over half a century. but she is, dare i call this person a pro-government republican. they do exist, and that's about what you have to be ideologically in place like west virginia which actually likes federal dollars coming into the
state because she's going to be somebody like a murkowski, collins, the republicans that do a lot of bipartisan deals. >> sound goods. let's go straight now, the latest from sterling, some quotes that i can't believe. >> the earthquake of the sterling interview, the ripple effect continues because we're one day after donald sterling attacked magic johnson. the former laker star is fighting back. magic was dragged into when v. stevian know post evidence this image on instagram. it's a photo made public by tmz sports. and sterling told her not to bring magic johnson or any other african-americans to clippers games to that original racist rant that was made public. it was days ago that sterling went after magic again, this time for having hiv. >> what has he done? can you tell me? big magic johnson, what has he
done? >> he's a business person. >> whose got aids. did they do any business? did he help anybody in south l.a. >> i think it's hiv, it didn't focus on aids. >> what kind of a guy that has sex with every girl and then he catches hiv. is that something that we want to respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed of himself. what does he do for the black people? he doesn't do anything. >> here's a man who we would think would be educated. and a man who would -- is smart enough to build this type of wealth. he's reaching, he's trying to find on to something that's going to save his team. am i upset?
of course. but at the same time, i'm a god fearing man. i'm going to pray for him and hope that things work out for him. the problem is, he's living in the stone ages. he can't make those comments about african-americans and latinos. he just can't do it. >> gene, i don't know where to begin with the ignorant statements. let's leave hiv out of it and instead talk about the fact that for a very long time, magic johnson has focused on going into inner cities and creating economic development and bringing hope to the hopeless in a lot of african-american communities for some time. in fact, that's what i've associated him with over the past 10, 20 years. >> yeah, so many ignorant statements, so long time. it just shows how out of it and how divorced from reality donald sterling is. and i think sometimes invested certainly tens of millions of
dollars, i don't know if it's hundreds of millions of dollars into low-income communities across the country, created economic opportunity. he has walked the walk, in addition to talking the talk. and is the last person in the world that you would say such an ignorant and prejudice thing about. but there you go. that's donald sterling. that's the donald sterling we've come to know. and not exactly love. >> mike barnicle, how can this guy remain associated in the nba? i can't see any judge thinking that there's any way that he would have any standing, to have any part of any team? >> well, he can take them to court, certainly, but there's no way he's going to end up with the l.a. clippers at the end of this, with whatever litigation proceeds. i choose to go back to what is soon to be ex-wife reference last week when she said she
thought certainly that donald sterling was in the early stages of dementia. >> he's got to be. who would do that? >> it's possible, the racism goes back a bunch of years, guys. >> yeah. >> so it's not like this stuff wasn't buried down in there. maybe even his sensor is turned off. >> no doubt. there's no guard rail now, so he's going right off the cliff. >> it's insanity. and it's just -- i don't know -- i don't know how this guy, and we've asked this question before, thomas, how is this guy been allowed to be an owner since 1981, the nba had to know, had to know. well, they did know that he had racist tendencies. >> yeah, they had the largest judgment go against him for discrimination and a payout that he and his wife had to make based on discriminatory practices. so the nba does know what's
there. if they have something to leverage him out -- and he agreed, mike, as you point out, he knows what's in the laws of nba ownership. if they have majority of those owners saying he's got to go, he's got to go. that's something that he agreed to on the front end. and according to his work philosophy, if magic johnson made such a mistake and should fall into the background and never be heard from again, what's his problem? he's made such a horrendous mistake that he should drop off the face of the earth. >> obviously, he has nobody around him that can counsel him. and he's stumbling from one crisis to another. it's unbelievable. speaking of surprising, it's not quite along those lines. but karl rove is actually doubling down on the suggestion that hillary clinton should be prepared for serious scrutiny about her health should she decide to run for president in 2016. >> we've got the republican strategist that is pushing back
against the new york post head line. he questioned whether the former first lady may have brain damage. it's pretty clear where he's trying to aim the voters' attention. >> my point was, that hillary clinton wants to run for president, but she would not be human if this didn't enter into consideration. and my other point is this will be an issue in the 2016 race. whether she likes it or not. she'll be 69 by the 2016 election. and she'll be 79 if he ends up erving two terms. >> clinton's camp blasted back saying she's recovered 100% from a blot clot in 2012. it wasn't just clinton pushing back, a well-known republican and white house jumped into it as well. >> this wasn't clever, ant it wasn't insinuation. this was karl rove running into a brick wall. nothing drives decent people running away from public office
more than this type attack. it weakens the fabric of democracy. >> here's what i would say about cognitive capacity which is that dr. rove might have been the last person in america on election night to recognize and acknowledge that the president had won re-election, including the state of ohio, so we'll leave it at that. >> chuck todd, what's going on? i mean, i just don't understand why would karl rove bend over backwards to make hillary clinton look like a more sympathetic figure? >> i am curious. it's amazing the conspiracy those are i heard yesterday. rove did this, he's doing the old lbj here. make them deny that they have brain damage. throw it out there and then say, oh, i didn't say brain damage, brain damage, brain damage, you know, but i'm trying to get it into the ether. and then i've talked to other folks who say that rove truly
was sort of shell-shocked that that got out there. that wasn't what he meant. >> well, he didn't exactly spin it very well yesterday. >> and he didn't spin is very well, no. look, the fact is she's the same age, she's going to be the same age as reagan was. if you're going to go down this road and claim she's going to have health issues, and things of that nature, then you may have to be throwing your own guy, ronald reagan under the bus a little bit. so i think this is a dangerous, tricky road to go down. and as we saw, with rove, you go down this road, and you stumble down this road, i mean, i agree, at any point, any presidential candidate has deputy release their health records. i don't care if they're 45 or 70. at the end of the day, i think it's important, the american public wants to know, they want to make their judgment about who the running mate is, things like that. so that is fair game. but to sit there and say it only really applies to her.
and you go down that road, it's going to look a little sexist if you're not careful. and it's going to backfire. >> you obviously have known hillary for a very long time. and you're absolutely confident. while you said legitimate -- there are a lot of people legitimately concerned after her fall that she's doing fine. >> look, i think she's doing fine. you watch her during her time as secretary of state, all the travlgs all the wear and tear and meetings she did. yeah, she had a little health problem, but probably would the rest of us after what she went through. regardless of what rove was doing, it's clear what what he was doing. if somebody like joe biden decides he wants to be in the mix two or three years older than hillary, it's going to apply to him. senator marco rubio found himself the target after recently entering into a climate change debate. speak at the national press
club, the potential 2016 contender looked to clarify remarks he made sunday. here are the original markings and what he said yesterday. >> i don't agree with the notion that some are putting out there including scientists that somehow there are actions we can take today that would actually have an impact on our climate. >> let me get this straight you do not think that human activity, production of co2 has causing change? >> i do not believe human activity is causing changes to our climate. i do not believe the laws that they will pass will do anything about it. >> headlines notwithstanding i of course, the climate is incorporate challenging because the climate is always changing, that's a measurable you can see. i've never disputed that climate is changing. i pointed out that climate is always changing. it's never static. that's not the question before me ace policymaker. the question before me as a policymaker, if we ban all coal,
all carbon emission information the united states will it change the dramatic weather impacts that we're now reading jab and anyone who says that we will is not being truthful. but for me to go out and say if you pass this bill that i'm proposing this will somehow lead us to have less tornadoes or hurricanes, that's just not an accurate statement. >> there we have him cleaning up his language but former president gore speaking about the calculus around climate change. he's said it's not complicated and why candidates are carving out their positions now. >> they will face primary opponents financed by the koch brothers and others who are part of their group, if they even breathe the slightest breath of sympathy for the truth. >> sympathy for the truth. jeremy peters, let's talk to you about the whiplash effect that we're seeing from senator marco rubio. obviously what he had to say to jonathan karl did not go over
well at the national press club and he's giving a different answer on climate change. >> i think this is what happens when you're thinking about running in a republican primary at the same time trying to become a viable national figure. you have to say one thing that on the one hand doesn't alienate the base. in this case, the republican base doesn't want to hear that global warming is man-made or a serious problem. but on the other hand, the majority of americans feel this is a real issue and that it needs to be dealt with at a federal level. so you've also seen this pattern from other contenders. possible contenders for the republican nomination. remember what happened with rand paul when he came out and said that republicans need to stop talking about voter fraud. and voter i.d. he got slammed on the right, even though what he said, this is offensive, republicans need to be careful about the way they're talking about this. it's offending african-americans. yesterday, he walked those statements back, saying, well, i
didn't say -- i didn't say that these laws are a bad idea. all i was saying is that we need to not talk about them as much. a lot of times these guys are trying to have it both ways. >> chuck, off of what jeremy just said, potential candidates trying to have it both ways, not offending the base. karl rove's comments about hillary clinton. the base, not only the republican, but specifically, the republican base, where does this potential field of candidates go in appeasing the base, while perhaps alienate oeg they have a demographic problem anyway in this country. can they shoot the middle here? is there a middle for them? >> i don't know, they have a -- we talk about a demographic problem. i go back to the term and color phrase of 2013, this is a period of time where it's not exactly where the democratic party was in a great place in virginia. and he used climate change, he
used some of these issues. but climate change was one of them, to define his opponent as out of the mainstream. you won't believe what he said about this in suburban -- in a suburban part of the state. this is -- there is a sort of a suburban wing that used to exist of the republican party that's sort of pro-business. the old eisenhower, rockefeller republicans. the children of them are starting to vote democrat. not because they're enthusiastist perhaps about the democratic party but they're just -- they've gone all brian sullivan to reference that. but they go, wait a minute, what's going on over here? and they feel as if you can't have rational discussions about certain policy issues. and so that's the voter that they've also turned off in suburban america. and 2016, the clintons are very good at wooing suburban america. and climate change that can turn
off potential with right-leaning republicans. >> gene robinson, a fascinating story in the front page of "the washington post," your newspaper. you read the article, he has conservative challenge from the right in his district. there was this weekend, where cantor was booed by republican act that visits. quite a turn of events for a guy who was seen as the conservative alternative to john boehner just a year ago. what's going on? >> well he's in trouble. and it's hard to figure why or how. because he's gone so far out of his way to try to define himself as the more tea party-friendly member of the leadership. of the leadership duo. and the one who will, unlike john boehner was really with the tea party. now, he faces this challenge that seems to be getting serious. i mean, i don't know that -- i don't know that you can call him
in grave peril at this point. you know, look, the majority leader in the house in a safe district, isn't supposed to be in trouble at all. at this point of the cycle. and i think it shows something that's happening in general about the republican party through these primaries. even though the so-called establishment candidates are winning a lot of races. they didn't win last night in nebraska, particularly. but they're winning a lot of races. but the tea party is bringing the staekt farther to the right in some cases. cantore will probably be brought yet further to the right. this, i think, could present problems for the republican party in the general election. >> we shall see. all right. thank you so much, chuck todd, thanks. we're going to be watching "the daily rundown" at 9:00 a.m. eastern.
you guys go after it, right? >> the irrational middle, that's what america needs. angry middle. >> the angry middle. they saw it yesterday. gene, stay with us if you can. former yankee second baseman willie randolph is here to explain why the yankee way it's the way it is. and senator jon tester is here later this hour. up next, his energy bill was derailed by the controversial keystone pipeline. we're going to get senator rob portman's thoughts on that and much more. you're watching "morning joe." be right back. 0
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unfortunately, many americans live on the outskirts of hope. some because of their poverty. and some because of their color.
and all too many because of both. our task is to help replace their despair with opportunity. and this administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in america. >> that's lyndon johnson 50 years ago, declaring a war on poverty. now with the republican senator from ohio, rob portman who has revealed his ideas for a conservative plan to take on poverty. thank you so much, rob, for being with us. >> you you bet. >> we thought it was an either/or. you have to be republican or you have to fight against poverty. what are your plans? paul ryan's been talking about a focus on poverty, too? what are we willing to do to help in this area? >> well, first, just the opposite you know, from
either/or. lyndon johnson just talked about opportunity, rather than despair. i mean, lieu technical economy today, joe, we're clearly at a point of despair, in the sense that poverty is up -- the rate of poverty is up. 47 million below the poverty line. we also have a weak economy coming out of a recession. the recovery is not adding hope and opportunity to the middle class, as well as people on the poverty line. so the question is, what do we do about it? i think there's two major things. one is, we need to grow an agenda. and you and i have talked about that, that includes transforming all of the economy, from the health care system to tax code regulations and so on. that's what jfk talked years before this. a rising tide lifts all votes. and second, even with a rising tide, people are going to fall through the cracks and end up on the shoals. we talked about prevention and
treatment and recovery. some of the models there, two decades ago, you and i worked on this issue of drug abuse from a republican perspective, but also a bipartisan perspective. i've done this with regard to prison re-entry with second chance. my point is there are ways to get at this with constructive conservatism because we know it would. >> if we're talking about this, i'm just pressing you a little bit here, if you came out and said i've got a plan to take on poverty and tax cuts, et cetera, et cetera, a lot of people are going to roll their eyes and say, well, that's the republican party we've been hearing about for 50 years. there has to be a spending component to it if you're going to get people's attention. are you and other republicans willing to invest in some of these programs to make a difference? >> yeah. i think we do. we invest in what works. i talked about yesterday, joe, of the fact that we should use federal funds to leverage local
and nonprofit private funds. this has happened with regard to the drug issue. the example i used was this legislation that was passed two decades ago that i offered that talks about how to get community coalition, started. it turns out there's like 5,000 coalitions that have been sparring for the act. it has to be funded at the local level. it involves the whole community coming together. the idea is it's not going to be solved from washington. also evidence-based approaches, i talked about the second chance and the fact that it requires that we use the best practices and the federal government has a big role to play there because some of the best research is done at the federal level. you can bring together best practices. you can go online and see the website it's called what works. >> gene robinson with "the washington post." >> senator portman, good to talk with you. >> thank you. >> does the republican party have any plans to address poor
people? to try to communicate with poor people on these issues and to try to sell a program that, frankly, does sound like what republicans have been say for a long time. and what a lot of team think has not worked. >> yeah, look, i don't think republicans have talked about this for a long time, john kennedy's admonition that a rising tide lifts boats. in a growing economy, some people will be left behind. i think we saw that in 1980, for instance. we saw that in the economy. and yet, ronald reagan actually talked about how do you deal with people who have drug addiction problems and therefore there are broken families and therefore there are problems. we need to get back to that. i specifically talked yesterday that you're not able to deal with some of the broken communities until you deal with drug addiction and the impacts, particularly, the impact that's
disproportionate on communities with the current war on drug which is i don't think is working. and secondly, the record number of people in prison and not dealing with them when they get out. 95% of them are going to get out. that's a conservative approach otherwise taxpayers are picking up the tab for two-thirds of those people getting back in the system. there are ways to deal with those things. >> i don't want to cut you off. we've got a lost people that want to get at you, rob. here's steve rattner. >> you had a couple references to kennedy's quote a rising tide lifts all boats. but it was a lot more than nap it was after his famous visit in 1960 when he in fact launched the war on poverty. launched what became head start. and your party was in the process of trying to cut all of those things. you of course voted against raising the minimum wage. i know you think costs jobs but
would raise 4 million or 5 million people out of poverty simply by getting them to $10.10 an hour. so what is wrong with those programs? >> steve, first of all, regarding the minimum wage, since you talked about that i strongly support programs that create jobs. i don't support raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour because it's going to create fewer jobs. the issue with regard to poverty isn't the minimum wage, with all due respect as much as it is about jobs. as you look at it, as you know fewer there been 0.3 of 1% of people are under minimum wage and under the poverty line. why? because most people under the poverty line need a job. it's not about the minimum wage, it's about a job. the problem about raising the minimum wage too fast and too high, you're going to eliminate jobs. the budget office has joined and said if you do what the president is proposing it will result in jobs being lost not gained. why not do things like making
the earned income tax credit work better. things that could affect work. i do support that in ohio. that would. i think states should be able to do that. i think we're getting off track on some of these political discussions. i know it's very popular, the minimum wage issue. again, ohio's got a higher minimum wage index. >> mike barnicle. >> senator, these are admiral goals but how do you attack poverty in this country when many members of your party have voted to cut food stamps. they've voted to repeal health care, you talk about a rising tide lifts all boats. how do you talk about a rising tide that lifts boats still filled with the hungry and rising ill-health? >> i do believe that the rising tide theory is important. in fact, i think it's necessary. you got to have a stronger economy. you've got to have growth. there are five or six things that we should do immediately to
get the economy moving again. dealing with health care costs. and the competitive global economy. we've got to do a much better job really reforming all of our institutions of our country as other countries have done when we have not. my point is that's not enough. it's not sufficient. the question is how do you come up with ways that are practical, i call it constructive, to actually look at what's worked. and deal with the issues. i don't believe it's going to happen from washington alone. by the way, lyndon johnson said that later in that same speech which is this is not going to happen in washington, it's going to happen in the field. it's going to happen in private homes in public lawsuits from the courthouse on up. he even acknowledged this is not something that's going to happen in washington. but washington has an important role to ply. that's what i tried to lay out in my speech yesterday. >> rob, thank you for being with us. senator rob portman. tomorrow morning on the show, glenn greenwald is going to join us on his new memoir on braying
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recovering from serious injuries after a gust of wind swept away a bouncy house. you can see the image there. three kids were actually playing inside. >> hey, you can guys take down the lower third. and go back to that other shot. i want to put a perspective how high this thing went. yeah, go back to the next shot. just right there. >> wow. >> look how -- >> oh, my god. >> -- how high three little children are inside that bouncy house that we've all had, if we have kids. nicolle, you can't even look at it. >> my 3-year-old loves that. >> three little kids. we've all had these at birthday parties, right our kids have all done them at birthday parties. and apparently, it was staked down. >> it had been staked down, joe, you're right. this gust of wind came along and blew it up 50 feet in the air. this gives perspective of where the ground is and cars parked
nearby. one child escaped with only minor injuries but another boy has broken bones after falling 15 to 20 feet in the parking lot nearby. while the third has a serious head injury after landing on a car. heartbreaking for the parents. it's just a simple toy that a lot of parents book for birthday parties for their kids. >> my kids aren't going in one of those. >> yeah. >> if parents that don't want them anymore, there's there's a good reason. >> i'm done with the tent. >> unless the stakes go down 40 feet to -- >> to aquifer. >> oh, my gosh, that's horrible. thomas, what's coming up in the 8:00 hour? >> all right. a big hour coming up how to think like a freak. >> that's what i'm talkin' about. >> that's what i'm talking about. >> the men behind the book
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back from iraq and the injuries to the vets are pretty intense, especially the ones we can't see. i think the v.a. is doing a pretty good darn job. that being said, if one veteran dies because somebody screwed up on a wait-list, that's far too many. >> first of all, i've got to say, there are a lot of veterans that would take exception to you saying, quote, the v.a. is doing a pretty good job. if you think the v.a.'s doing a pretty good job. i think you may be one of people in washington, d.c. that think that v.a. is doing a good job, but maybe one of the few people in america who believe that. >> i couldn't disi agree with you more. i've been around the state of montana. i've talked to veterans for the last eight years. and i'm not a veteran. i've talked to veterans. and i can tell you almost truly without exception they truly appreciate the v.a. is it perfect? absolutely not. does it need to be improved? absolutely. we need to work on it, especially when it comes to
mental health issues. but overall, i will tell you that the v.a., and i'd know it's in vogue right now to politicize everything that's going on with the v.a. but the bottom line is, we need to get to the bottom of this, we need to find out if there's wrog doing and hold people responsible. >> it's not in vogue with all due respect, senator, there's been a waiting list that's been extraordinarily long. an you've got parts of the v.a. that are actually cooking the books. and possibly killing veterans. >> we need to get to the bottom of that. but i will tell you, the waiting list, we knew was coming. it was coming. and i can tell you that this secretary has reduced it by 45%. that being said, it's being increased by 45%, too. because we're having veterans come home from iraq and afghanistan as we wind these wars down. and i think it's good we're winding these wars down but we've got to be realistic. the fact is, the waiting list is too long. secretary shinseki has made it a priority. and he's worked hard at it. and he needs success.
in the meantime, what has congress done? well, we've had sequestration and shutdowns and anything but certainty to the v.a. so when we see politicians badmouthing the v.a., they're pointing a finger at the v.a. and three back at themselves. >> that's bad mouthing the v.a. paul reichoff is bad mouthing the v.a. he's not a politics. and there are are millions of other veterans for some reason don't share your rosy scenario of the v.a. >> let me tell you, the v.a. has plenty of room to improve. but they do plenty of things right, too. i think if we want to focus on the negative and we don't want to focus on ways to improve the v.a., then we'll be right where we are right now. asking for resignations when we don't have all the facts. we need to get all the facts and then we need to act appropriately. >> well senator, instead of
focusing on the negative, you come from a big state. let's talk about accessibility from ptsd treatment. you get in the car and drive for hours some veterans before they get properly treated. what can you do about that? what should the v.a. be doing about it now? >> well, what we need to do, we need to get both in the v.a. and the private sector more mental health care professionals throughout. this could be the biggest issue fatesing this country over the next 20 or 30 years. what the v.a. is doing about it, they're trying to hire as many folks as they can to serve areas both urban and rural. they're working on telehealth which is critically important. with success, by the way, even better than eye-to-eye work that they've done with the folks that have ptsd and tbi. look, it is a business issue. i don't know that we've got one psychologist east of montana. and there's a big area east of billings. there needs to be work done there, no doubt about it.
all hands on deck to get it fixed. >> senator jon tester, thank you for being with us. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i don't get it. i don't -- >> it's an outrage. >> well, you talk about -- >> i don't get that, i talk to veterans all the time. >> we have them on the show. >> i talk to veterans all the time that wonder why shinseki should still be there. they are killing vets in phoenix. they are cooking the books. i don't know if he -- if he's lobbying for another facility. in his state. i don't understand that. >> well, and you talked about -- >> i'm sorry, that is -- >> that's political in itself. >> that is one of most remarkable disconnects, political disconnects from a guy i've always respected. i don't get that. >> he's a good guy. he's heart's in the right place. but the reality is the v.a. is an incredible mess. at outrage more senators going
the house of representatives, the american flag, we have to take care of our veterans. >> and even came on saying shinseki who he has covered a long time and he doesn't get it, he doesn't get it, giant should be gone. i'm shocked that you've got a united states senator saying this is about politician? it's about vets. >> coming up next, yankee great willie randolph joins us. wow. ♪ [bell rings]
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now former second baseman, now coach for the yankees, willie randolph. we're just talking about what you're doing now. you managed the mets for how many seasons? >> three and a half years. >> you had a great run as a coach and player with the new york yankees. what's next? >> i hope i get the shot to manage. i got the opportunity and lived the dream. i grew up in brooklyn, new york.
i rooted for the mets as a youngster. i got a chance to manage the team. my life has been really charmed and really blessed. and then also captain of the yankees. living both worlds and just understanding the game has been good to me, i love the game but i'd like another shot and see if i can get better at it. >> you ought to get another shot. >> your career with the yankees spans almost 30 years. you put it all together and you saw some things. >> yes. >> you were there for reggie jackson, you were there in the 80s with don mattingly, you saw jeter come up from the minors and watch him grow under that great yankee run with joe torre. can you put into words what the experience was for you? >> it was a great experience for you, a 21-year-old kid to be a part of a world series championship. the yankee way means a winning tradition, a legacy that's rich in championships.
everyone can't win, it's not easy to win championships. i was fortunate to get traded by the pirates to the yankees and it just took off for me, again, storybook. the yankees for me are about family, tradition. the steinbrenners gave us an opportunity to win. i was fortunate to play with great players, hall of famers. >> how would you like to be joe girardi trying to handle jeter's farewell tour? >> how hard is it to know when it's time? >> the players don't know it's time. your hear feels i can do that. >> i went through that a little bit with mike piazza. he did a great job of saying you got to give me a day off, i'm okay with this.
derek is a different thing. it's got to be a tough thing for a father and son to go to the game and jeter has the day off. it's a tough, tough pill to swallow. >> when you talk about the hear, though, do you have a conflicted heart when it comes to new york and mets and yankees? i know the book is called "the yankee way" but you grew up a mets fan. do you have a conflicted heart over where your allegiance really lies? >> i'm conflicted but the best of both worlds. when you manage a team, it's like a father/son. as a player, you leave it on the field. i enjoyed playing more than managing. but when you think about me, i'm a yankee. you know, i got the world championship rings, i was captain of the team. >> the ring says it all.
distracting. >> we're all surprised you didn't say the mets way. >> and i was the honor of being one of eight yankee captains. that was special. i probably have some pin stripe blood in my veins but the love the mets. >> that ring, though, look at that bling. >> this was actually, 2000 world series. imagine living in this town? this was the most nerve racking. the true subway series. they're going on right now but had is the real subway series. >> there a lot of great stories, including the one where you went to yankee stadium as a fan and heckled derek jeter. you got to read the book. >> still ahead, magic johnson's reaction to donald sterling's
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♪ ♪ ♪ tell me you never saw this man move, doing the dance, the karl rove dance ♪ >> sickening, isn't it? >> welcome back to "morning joe." mike barnicle is with us, steve rattner, mark halpern and joy reid. thinking on the whole brain damage thing. >> we picked through that a couple of years ago. he didn't say brain damage but said was wearing glasses that suggested he had a traumatic brain injury when of course these are the same type of glasses that you wore in college. >> those milk bottle glasses. >> from the yale days. >> you remember that. >> i think this will go down in
history as a miscalibration by carl because of of the way he let it come out. i'm not 100% certain he wanted this in the blood stream. this was a private event. people can say, as nicole did yesterday, people had no know this was going to come up. he had to know this was going to come up. >> but the clean-up was not handled well either. >> what she said in private obviously is in private. obviously she didn't have brain damage. i just disagree with her on issue. >> the republican party is in crisis right now. doesn't look like jeb bush wants to run, people are worried about chris christie, there's another other establish candidate. the big gun, the big brains at the presidential level is what can we do to intimidate hillary clinton from running or try to make the conversation about her
about the past and negative. i think that's part of the package that carl's part of now but i don't think he planned this. >> well, joy, this sure isn't a way to intimidate her. if i had my opponent throwing a wild charge like that at me or let's say a member of my family i'd go, okay, well, so they're going to just hand me this election then, aren't they? it was a stupid thing to say and it was stupid to not back down from it. >> yeah, i mean, the source of it obviously he's now backing off saying he didn't really say that but it comes across, if true, as a schoolyard taunt, needlessly petty and small, a stupid insult. as somebody who grew up wearing glasses, it comes across like a schoolyard, foolish taunt. it doesn't in any way get to hillary clinton as secretary of state. like what you're supposed to go after if you're being serious about running against her is the actual content of the work she's done as a public figure, the content of what she did as
secretary of state. this petty stuff and speculating about her having brain damage, it isn't even serious politics. >> and talking about her being old, when karl rove says she'll be 69 if she wins, 77 when she gets out, you know what i think? think of ronald reagan, who was 69 when he was inaugurated, 77 when he was out. i would take eight more years of ronald reagan. i know a lot of people would. but republicans, who are listening to karl rove, i don't even think republicans get it. >> can't you just see hillary clinton saying to rand paul i'm not going to use the youth and inexperience of my opponent against him? >> exactly. >> you're reminding people she has a lot of experience in public life. people who know her and know politics understand she's a serious person. >> the republican party is in
existential crisis right now. their kind of republicans now are trying to disqualify her. it's the strategy president obama used to disqualify mitt romney. they're saying our only hope of winning now until we have a candidate that can match up with her until we have a candidate in the electoral college, is to disqualify her. that's where the energy is now. >> is karl rove more wary of hillary clinton or more leery of the existing republican field? >> he would like a horse to get on. until they have a horse, there's a one-word job description for the party right now, who can beat her?
they don't have anybody gung-ho who can beat her, to try to start enough noise who can beat or damage her. >> the tea party got a much-needed primary victory last night, some are saying. the nebraska former bush official, ben sasse captured more than half of the votes. he's scored endorsements from sarah palin and ted cruz and outside groups including club for growth. they spent millions on sasse. when he called out senator minority leader mitch mcconnell to show some, quote, actual leadership on obamacare but yesterday he down played that rift and told chuck todd he would absolutely support mitch mcconnell as leader. and pete rickets, businessman who won the primary in nebraska
had the backing of ted cruz, who campaigned out there for him. so ricketts has to be the favorite for that state. a lot of tea party got behind him and establishment got behind him as well. he was a unifying candidate, wasn't he? >> but he is an outsider. mcconnell is someone who will come to washington like senator johnson of wisconsin or mike lee from utah, he's not going to come and play nice. i don't think he'll be as far outside the mainstream of the party in terms of attitude as ted cruz. he'll be a senator and peter ricketts will be senator most
likely. >> and magic johnson was first dragged into this controversy after sterling confronted his then mistress over a photograph. stiviano posted the image of magic johnson on it instagram. sterling told her not to bring magic or any other african-american to clippers game during that original racist rant and then sterling went after magic johnson again, this time, believe it or not, for having hiv. >> what has he done? can you tell me, big magic johnson. what has he done? >> well, he's a business person, he -- >> he's got aids. did he do any business? did he help anybody in south l.a. >> i think he has hiv, he doesn't actually have full-blown aids. >> what kind of guy goes to every city, has sex with every girl and then he catches hiv. is that somebody we want to
respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed of himself, he should go into the background. but what does he do for the black people? he doesn't do anything. >> here's a man who we would think would be educated and a man who would -- is smart enough to build this type of wealth and own a team, to have an incredible platform to change the world but he's doing it in a negative way. he's reaching. he's reaching. he's trying to find something he can grab on to to help him save his team and it's not going to happen. am i upset? of course. but at the same time i'm a god fearing man, i'm going to pray for him and hope that things work out for him. the problem is he's living in the stone ages. he can't make those comments about african-americans or latinos. he just can't do it. >> joy reid, why don't you tell us what donald sterling is thinking when he goes on tv and
says that? >> the only thing i can think of between that and what he said to v. stiviano on the phone, here's a man who has a desenep sense o inadequacy, just his girl friend being a picture in magic johnson -- >> what kind of fool would say that? he has to know, does he not? we all know what magic johnson has done in communities and cities over the past 20 years. the investment, the financial investments, the risk he has taken to help the disadvantaged, he's done so much. forget the ignorance about aids or hiv, the more ignorant statement has to do with the fact that magic has been doing exactly what he said blacks should do. it's insanity. >> he's a deeply ignorant man who obviously knows very little
about magic johnson other than the way he makes him feel. this is magic johnson -- in the 1980s the idea of hiv/aids terrified people. magic johnson probably more than any other single person has humanized the issue of hiv, has made people understand it in the real sense. it is considered heroic in the african-americ african-american community both for the way he has contributed to the community and -- >> why doesn't magic johnson age? magic looks like he did 25 years ago. >> he's magic. >> that's right. he's magic for a reason. >> you have lebron coming out and saying he will not play basketball next year if this creep is still running the clippers or has anything to do
with the clippers. >> i'm not that familiar with the nba board of governor rules and apparently if the majority of owners is against sterling returner so he will be done. the larger issue, joy alluded to it, do you remember the day the news broke that magic johnson and hiv? >> of course i do. >> at that stage of the hiv crisis, he provided -- >> it's impossible for people too young to remember but there was such a panic. i remember americans going to restaurants and feverishly wiping down their silverware when they got to restaurants because they were afraid they were going to get, posed to the hiv virus. magic put a loving face on the epidemic.
we all thought, oh, my god, in two, three years magic is going to be dead? >> that's right. >> no, that was a turning point in that battle that we owe an awful lot to magic for as you were saying, joy. >> arthur ashe and magic johnson are the two people who did more to end the panic for hiv/aids than anyone else. the federal government refused to use the word aids, people fighting for basic drug care. people thought he would die almost immediately. his survival in and of itself but also his really just incredibly dignified champion of just living with hiv, besides the fact that he was just an ignorant fool who should be out of the nba, that is stupid. >> magic of '91, that's the on thing people would be thinking
about now. now that's way down on the list. people don't even think about it. talking about living with hiv and making a big difference in american society, the guy did it. joy, thank you for being with us. do you know what your show is going snto be? >> we're going to be talking about this and we're going to be talking about the nigerian girls. this is a very personal issue to me and we're going to stay on that story until we see a resolution. >> that's great. can't wait to watch that. >> are you following my advice? >> my staff can hear this, by the way. >> i told her to stay at home, relax. >> i've done it a couple of times. >> pixar has swimming pools and volleyball courts. you got to be in the right mindset. do not come in here for your meeting. i'm talking to the staff. >> don't watch this, just this
part. >> it's not about you, it's about joy. >> coming up, our reaction to the interview of time geithner with larry kudlow. and calm down brian sullivan, boy, he's fired up. coming up next, speaking of freaks, the authors behind freakonomics are coming up. they want to teach you how to think like a freak. bill karins, what do you have for us? >> you can't say freak and lead into the weathercast, joe. >> we're into some freaky weather. it was only 66 degrees in san antonio, it was 92 in washington, d.c. and out west, an incredible heat wave on top of this historic drought. let's add in the santa ana winds and it's one of those days of
firefighters are going to be gearing up and be ready. it's a very dangerous day. winds could gust in the mountains up to 80 miles per hour. 80 miles per hour and 100 degrees. that's like having a hair dryer blower. record heat expect, 100 on thursday. they don't cool off in southern california until friday and especially the weekend. heavy rain and possibility of a few severe storms, maybe isolated tornado or two, it goes through pittsburgh, columbus, louisville, tupelo. if you have any problems at the airport, it will most likely be with the thunderstorms. how about los angeles, 101 today. early in the season for that. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ and you're younger than you
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need to do that they can't do. but what they can do is be relentlessly curious, and their brains are physiologically sharper. we're start to deteriorate at about 22 years old. we suggest people channel the inner child as best as they can. especially when you're trying to come up with good yquestions an creative solutions. >> give us an example how you can do that at work. >> think like a child? >> yes. >> kids don't know anything about the world and they have a lot of solutions. a lot of answers people come up with people think you're nuts but -- >> and also learn to say i don't
know. >> and as adults we tend to present a theory or possibility as a certain tear. >> put away your moral compass. >> we don't mean to say people shouldn't be moral. nobody wants to live in a world where people don't have a strong moral compass. but if you're trying to solve a problem and you walk in thinking you know what's the right thing to do and what's wrong, you will exclude a whole set of possibilities. put your moralali itit itit iti aside and you can come back to it later. >> also in the book -- >> i still think you can be an astronaut. >> i'd like to if we still had nasa. >> you're limiting yourself. >> he already looks like an astronaut. >> thank you very much.
>> could have been. >> you talk about don't be afraid to quit. a lot of people, once we get on a certain path, we don't want to trigger any type of failure in our lives because we get comfortable with being on a path. why do you try to get people to not think of that as a bad thing. >> quitting and failure are two different things. the worst failure is looking back at our life and doing the same thing and wondering why you do that. the people who quit are happier than the ones who don't. >> from freak to frank. you tell great stories. tell bus the hot dog eating contest and what lessons he teaches ees us. >> i love this story and this guy.
kobiachi, he wanted to solve the problem and he approached it totally differently. instead of doing what everybody else did, fasting, starving themselves, instead of thinking how can i eat more hot dogs, he thought how can i eat one faster? he broke the process down and the first time out doubled the world record. >> from like 25 to 50? >> it would be like usain bolt running the world record in like 4.5 seconds, somewhere between a taxi and a cheetah. >> we've heard about creative destruction, that does lie at the heart of it. like you said, you don't drive the car off the cliff. sometimes -- well, all of this is about getting out of your comfort zone and not doing what everybody expects you to do. >> absolutely. it's about thinking. it's about not just sleep walking through life but thinking about what you want to
do and taking control and doing it. >> so who is your favorite freak that you studied that put the big light bulb over your head? >> barry marshall was an australian medical young doctor who figured out what causes ulcers, okay? it doesn't sound like a big game he also figured out what causes stomach cancer. at the time ulcers were thought to be from stress and stomach issues. he went and found out it was about bacteria and solved stomach cancer by looking at a problem, asking questions, hey, what are those bacteria being here, was ostracized by the
medical community and finally was recognized and won the nobel peace prize. >> i know hough to eat a hot dog faster now. >> and you can go out for thai food to celebrate. >> let your freak flag fly high. >> you can read an excerpt on moj mojoe.com. coming up, your favorite internet stock is most likely collapsing. i told up not to invest in pets.com, you didn't listen to me. we're going to dig into it when we come back. ♪ ♪
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fell by 25% and it took a decade to get back to some measure of security for people. that's because we allowed as a country a financial panic to escalate and bring the system to collapse. and why does that happen? it's because the light's going out. it's like the power grid not functioning. if the economy can't get oxygen, just to mix some more metaphors, companies can borrow, then businesses fire people on a brutal scale and that produces those set of conditions. panic leads to crash. that's why those things are so damaging. and they have massive innocent victims in that context. >> how close were we? >> we were right at the edge. >> paulsen wrote he thought we were three days away from the atms not working. people were talking about burying gold in their back ya s yards. >> they cut out the part where
they explain that's exactly what mika is still doing, burying gold in her back yard, west chester, south of france, all over the place. >> that of course was tim geithner earlier. mike barnicle did not have a lot of nice things to say about elizabeth warren. >> i don't think he likes elizabeth warren. >> i don't know that he doesn't like her. but i think he clearly felt abused by her in the settle of setting her up for questioning, youtube moments rather than -- >> oh, i think he doesn't like her. >> okay. we're going to talk about that and much more. we're going to ask why too big to fail has got i don't know even bigger. brian sullivan is trying to recover from yesterday. larry kudlow, miles neddal, a cast of thousands will be with us when we return on "morning joe."
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can we just stop saying "the republican party." as someone who grew up in a conservative household, i don't recognize the republican party of even my youth. i don't like what i see. i don't like the far right, i don't like the extremism. they've pushed me away. as somebody who is pretty much not religious, right, pro same-sex marriage, pro legalization of marijuana for the most part, okay, what party is this? what party am i supposed to be in when i'm a fiscal conservative who believes that small government can often be better. there are times for larger government. so we keep saying "the republican party" and i love you guys and i love the show and i come on all the time but i don't know who the republican party is anymore. i don't know in the republican party knows -- it's not a party i can get on board with because
i don't like the small minded attitude, a lot of the right-wing stuff that comes out. >> well, come on down, come on down. >> give this guy a cup of decaf. >> a ticket to new hampshire. >> that was brian sullivan on our show yesterday. brian is back today. lexapro is doing a remarkable thing in his life for the past 24 hours, along with larry kudlow and miles nadal. brian sullivan, i hear not just republicans but a lot of conservative republicans that oppose obamacare, that oppose higher taxes, that oppose more regulations, that are larry kudlow and joe scarborough conservatives who say you know what, just keep the crazy at home, we want to actually win elections and change america for the better. so i don't know that you're -- i mean, i'm hearing this from the
most conservative, ideological people out there, which is just stop winning election. >> by the way, i want to thank everybody for the support. that was obviously unexpected and a little bit out of character. i appreciate everybody writing in. >> you didn't just win the academy award. >> it's like baseball. if the pirates bat .320 as a team but every team bats better and they keep losing, does l thr batting average really matter? the republicans have lost five out of six of the last popular elections? >> we've last five out of six elections. larry kudlow, people are doing some really, really stupid things. harry reid should be going to boxing matches in nevada in his
pajama and flip-flops. he should have been beaten. >> keep your eyes open. he's on the ropes. >> i think this is a year where the big tent philosophy is going to work pretty nicely. >> it worked last night in nebraska. tea party support. >> the republicans are going to have the upper hand on economic growth and obamacare. tease are very important issues. with all respect to brian, i am not in favor of legalizing pot, i never will be in favor, i don't think the republican party should be in favor of legalizing pot, but if a state wants to do it, let the state do, it don't get in the way. i would say the same thing regarding certain key social issues. if certain states want gay marriage, that's up to the state. >> but the national party, let's focus on getting america back to work, right? >> and you're going to see that,
is going to be the big theme. this is the worst economic recovery since world war ii, the job situation still remains very difficult and, frankly, obamacare is not only bad for the economy, it's going to be bad for health care and health care costs. my advice to the gop, big tent is number one and, two, keep your eye on the balls that really matter. >> steve rattner, every time on the house floor we started getting to social issues, the republican party would split, work, jobs, taxes, regulation, getting people back to work, we'd be united. this economy, a lot of unrest in the economy. unemployment numbers are going down. last quarter that we flatlined, maybe because of weather. but you have a great chart here talking about how we've got two americas. we've got the america on wall street that's setting records every day and we've got the america on main street that's been losing real wages since
1973. >> it's true. the stock market has been hitting new highs pretty much every day. it's up 32% last year, 3% this year. >> is there a bubble? >> is there a bubble? i'm sure people on this panel have an opinion about it. looking at the price-to-earnings ratio, how expensive is the stock market in this goes back to 1910 and uses a measure developed by robert shiller, an economist. and it's not as high as it was in 1929 and it's not as high as it was in 2000 and not quite as high as it was in 2007 but other than that, it is higher than it's been. does it mean the stock market can keep going up some more because of these irrational bits of exuberance? sure, it can. >> but your chart doesn't end
we're in a bubble now? >> it suggests stocks are on the expensive end but not in the bubble we've had before. >> explain what happened to internet stocks. >> look what's happened. twitter down 47%, groupon down 46%. some of that are questions that have questionable business models. i don't think many think groupon is the greatest business in the world, twitter when it went public, the valuation was crazy. the whole market is sort of rotating at the moment away from internet stocks. >> can i make one point? steve is right as far as this chart goes. this is a ten-year average of price-to-earnings multiples. now, bob shiller is a smart guy. i'm not here to put him down, this is not necessarily the best way to measure it. look at last year or this year
or a year ahead,or really around 15 times earnings and that's not bad. my advice, sometimes kudlow is right, sometimes kudlow is wrong, i wouldn't jump out of the market right now. >> housing and consumer spending. >> housing is stable temperature it -- stable. larry said trade at about 16 times earnings currently. and on that basis the s&p 500 could be 1950, 1975 next year. s&p earnings are supposed to be 117 this year, gross 6%. if you believe what lee cooperman says, which is stocks are the best house in a good neighborhood currently, they're fair live priced. they're not cheap in relation to what they've been historically
and they're not over live expensive. >> so why is main street still suffering and why is wall street doing so well? >> when you look at the unemployment rate that has declin declined, it's mostly because people have left the workforce. there's only about 150,000 job being created monthly. >> the answer is simple. why has main street suffered and wall street done so well? because wages have not increased, and what hasn't gone into wages has gone into corporate profits. workers are simply not sharing in this prosperity. >> the wage point is exactly right. it's exactly right. and i think that's because of the slow growth in the economy and i think that's because of poor economic policies. but i want to make a point, wall street versus main street. no, won't buy it. 50% of the households in this country own stocks. when you talk about main street, union people, cops, fire,
teachers are all in pension funds and the pension funds are doing very well because the stock market has done very well. in queens your cop is making $120,000 a year, your school teach ser making $120,000 a year, they're putting some money into pension funds and that money is being matched and then some. those pension funds have gone up a lot since the bottom in 2009. >> teachers make $120,000 a year? >> how much? >> did you say they make $120,000 a year? >> in this city? absolutely. look at the recent de blasio settlement, it's going to be more than that. >> how much is the market in unrest in ukraine and overseas? >> they don't seem worried at all. the bond yield has gone down. but to steven's point, the stock market continues to go up. perhaps we are the cleanest dirty shirt in a bag of laundry. do i want to push back a little on what steven said, incomes
have not gone up, that is well founded, well known, accurate. but let's not forget corporations have paid out this huge gain in money to health care over the last 20 years. any corporation will say we have given our employees a raise, it just hasn't been in their paycheck, it's been in benefits. if the president's health care plan works and does as advertised, if we can bend that down, corporations will then transfer some of those savings to workers' actual paychecks. >> that's a fair point. but the balance of the evidence is workers have not had much pay increase. to larry's point, sure. >> has some direct interest in the stock but the vast preponderance of the gains in this stock rally have gone to the famous 1%. >> i just don't think the evidence supports that. i'm not making this stuff up. half of the households in this
country either directly or indirectly through pension funds or 401(k)s and what have you own shares. >> the most important issue is about job creation. if the republican party focusses on that single issue about job creation throughout the entire economy, especially in small business, that is the critical issue. way to stimulate the economy and benefit main street is through job creation. >> and that's the gop message inside the big tent. if they stick to their knitting on that, they're going to do very well. >> all they need is a policy now. >> we'll find it. at least we have focus. that's what we need. thinking like a child, thinking like a freak. >> larry kudlow, good to have you all here. and harry reid on the koch brothers when we come back.
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on the record with greta van susteren is up next. see you tomorrow. this is a fox news alert. the secretary of defense is warning, warning every single american about isis. >> isil is as sophisticated and well funded as any group that we have seen. they're beyond just a terrorist group. they marry ideology, a sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess. they are tremendously well funded. oh, this is beyond anything that we have seen. so we must prepare for everything. >> he says we must prepare for everything, you can hear it in his voice, the pentagon is in a crisis mode.
meanwhile, across the potomac river, the lights are out at the white house. no one is home. president obama still on vacation. and today, he was back on the golf course, that is despite being slammed from the left and the right. democrats and republicans both slamming him about playing golf yesterday, and that was just minutes after talking to the nation about the beheading of an american journalist, and john bolton joins us. good evening, sir. the optics matter and it's hard to pay a lot of attention to these issues if you're not around. >> i think that's an important point, but honestly, i wouldn't mind if the president played golf morning, noon, and night if he cared about the national security of the united states. that's the real problem. he doesn't focus on it, he doesn't understand it even after five and a half years of on the job training, he still doesn't get it. that's why this news conference today between secretary hagel and general dempsey is so incredibly contrasted with what the president said yesterday. the pentagon, as you say, is on
full alert. and i don't think the president yet understands the nature of the isis threat. >> is it that he doesn't understand it or is he incredibly rude? the american people care about this stuff. this is a well funded, very fluid situation because they can move around the world quite quickly. we know, why isn't -- is it the fact they call him in jv in january, doesn't he get it? >> he hasn't apparently changed his mind. he said isil speaks for now religion. it has no value to human beings. that's repudiated by the ground. if you don't understand the nature of the threat, you're never going to have a strategy to deal with it. i think we have, as the briefing said today, a real crisis. we need a strategy in response. i think the strategy ought to be to eliminate the threat, not to contain it, but to eliminate it, as secretary kerry himself has said. >> is it possible, you know, a lot of people are appalled he's playing golf. i would like to see my president
pay more attention. is it behind the scenes maybe he's doing a lot of that? >> i think the golf is the wrong thing to focus on. i found a picture earlier today of dwight eisenhower during world war ii laughing on the front green of the st. andrew's golf course in scotland. you could say what is eisenhower doing on a golf course? the answer is, life goes on. and if we had a president anywhere close to dwighti eisenhow eisenhower's capabilities, it wouldn't bother me. we should focus on what the real problem is, which is a commander in chief who is not competent to do the job. >> you say he's not competent. maybe he's speaking to prime minister cameron six times a day, maybe he's doing these things and speaking to secretary hag hagel, general dempsey. >> that would not be the pattern of the last five and a half years. at some point, you have to produce a strategy. i think there is a strategy to defeat the islamic state as they now call themselves and i think it's important to do it sooner rather than later before they
consolidate territory, before they become a magnet for other terrorists. there are estimates, for example, that 500 of the terrorists they now british citizens. we don't know how many are americans. these are people who could come back to europe, come back into this country with a valid passport they already have. that is a real threat for the united states. >> what is president obama's strategy on isis? >> i don't think he has a strategy. i think that's the problem. he's driven from one tactical response to another. so you're worried about 30,000 or 40,000 iia yeedys being massacred, you're worried about personnel in erbil, the mosul dam being opened and flooded the valleys down toward baghdad, so there are pinprick responses, but none of this constitutes a strategy. he hasn't defined our objectives. he hasn't tried to define how he wants to go about that. there is no evidence he's building an international
coalition. i still don't think he understands the internal political situation in iraq or iran's influence there. it's just completely disconnected from the reality that is evolving minute by minute on the ground. >> ambassador, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> tonight, we have new information about the failed mission to rescue american hostages held in syria. jennifer griffin life at the white house with the latest. jennifer. >> greta, defense secretary chuck hagel told reporters at the pentagon he regretted the mission to rescue foley did not succeed, adding isis is a sophisticated and well funded as any terrorist the united states has ever seen. unusually strong words from the secretary of defense. he warned americans, to quote, get ready, without specifying what that meant. chairman of the joint chiefs, general martin dempsey said air strikes alone will not destroy isis and suggested action needed to be taken against isis targets in syria, though not necessarily
he said by the united states. in terms of the failed rescue mission, u.s. military sources tell me the special operations team that attempted the rescue was on the ground longer than they expected. when they got to the first compound, the hostages weren't there. there was evidence they had been there just days before. they got into a firefight. one u.s. aviator was injured. the intelligence leads for the operation came from interviews with two spanish and four french hostages released this spring. they described where they were being held in eastern syria. they said they were held by british jihadists. the executioner in the video speaks with an east london accent. the u.s. air force helped the government retake the mosul dam, foley's captors sent his parents a venom filled rant via e-mail suggesting they would kill foley in response to u.s. air strikes in iraq. previously, they had asked for 100 million gryos or $132
million in ransom according to his employer at the global post. there were additional six air strikes in iraq against isis targets and 90 since august 8th. isis is still holding at least three american hostages. their lives hang in the balance tonight. >> jennifer, thank you. so what's up with the cia? isis is clearly not jv, despite president obama saying that in january of this year. now there's news of this dangerous operation totally botched because of bum intelligence, and the white house now facing some criticism for releasing details of the failed rescue mission. major general bob scales joins us. >> good evening. >> looking at this failed effort to rescue, it seems to me that they went there to do the rescue and nobody was there, which means that we had the worst intelligence possible. >> well, first of all, let's remember that saving someone is an order of magnitude more difficult than killing someone.
>> right, but the president has to be there to save him. >> so the intelligence situation for a hostage rescue is sort of like a rolling event. in fact, these guys were getting intelligence updates while they were actually flying into the target, so the intelligence gathering is much greater, but your point is well taken. this is not a failure of operations. this is a failure of intelligence. you're risking the lives of the very competent team and an enormous amount of hardware to go into a site that was vacated two days before. that's a failure of strategic intelligence to your point. >> what is the military saying tonight because general dempsey has said today rather terrifying things. he talk about open borders and immigration issues and it's an immediate threat, isis. he also said if isis gains what it intends to gain, it creates a security environment that would certainly threaten us in many ways. he said air strikes are not enough, but we had six today. so, you know, and ambassador
bolton said we have no strategy. >> what's so interesting, first of all, the response i got from my military friends was overwhelmingly negative. >> negative towards whom? >> towards the slagz letting out the details of this failed hostage rescue because they're saying wait a minute, it affects our ability to gather intelligence, and it also affects surprise. now, isis knows that we're on the hunt for them, and that complicates this whole idea of surprise enormously. the reason it almost worked is isis got complacent. they're not going to be complacent anymore. >> that's about one american and it's enormously important. it's the bigger picture that isis is growing, that air strikes aren't going to be enough. nobody wants to say boots on the ground, and the president is away, and ambassador bolton says we have no strategy. pretty soon the media is going to pull out because it can't have everyone beheaded and we
won't get any information at all from there. >> you notice dempsey's body language is, look, i know what the president said, and what the ambassador said is absolutely true, but i'm telling you this is far more serious than the body language we're getting from the administration. i'm telling you those in uniform understand the threat of isis. you heard him say very important, air strikes aren't enough. >> was that to the president? >> i think it was to a degree. if air strikes aren't enough, what is enough? an escalation of an american presence in iraq? yes. is it gives the mepesh murgy weapons? does it mean operating forces operating not only in iraq but clandestinely in syria as well? absolutely. >> are they asking that from the president and they're not getting it or what is it? >> a, they're asking for it, and they're pushing the limits with the administration. they want a strategy. they also want a campaign plan. after you get a strategy, then you have to have a long-term campaign plan.
this is going to last years. it's not the next bombing strike or thehostage. >> if isis grows so fast and they're so well funded, this is unlike any other enemy we have had because there's so much money. >> absolute lay, and what the military is trying to do is get ahead of it. i think dempsey understands clearly this is a multiyear campaign that is going to have to eventually involve congress, the administration, and the american people. he's trying to set the conditions and tell the american people, get ready. this is all starting over again. >> general, thank you, sir. nice to see you. it's very difficult to think it could get worse, but it is. right after beheading james foley in that horrific video, isis threatening that other american journalist sotloff will be next. this woman has met with the family in miami. she joins us. good evening. >> thank you, greta. i'm just going to talk briefly about my limited role in this case. i had the opportunity to meet with steven's parents in miami
as well as in d.c. and had a phone conversation with them. we have kept in touch with the state department, with the fbi, cia, national security council, the white house. they have all been keeping the family abreast. and the family has wanted to be very low key, private. they have made limited statements. the mom today said he's alive. so that's very good news. and then the boyfriend of the sister just said sign the petition and change.org and pray. and so what i can say is that i just can't imagine as a mother and as a grandmother the kind of ordeal that this has been for the family. it's almost a year to the day when i met with them and debbie wasserman schultz and ted deitch have also been helping, but it's very difficult to have had our agencies get the information from a terrorist organization. i would say that now, every is
really in operation to try to rescue him. and i'm cautiously optimistic, and i hope that your viewers will pray for his life as well. >> you know, i think, we all want him to come home. we're all sort of suspicious having seen or heard of the video with mr. foley and what his family has gone through and an operation where the pentagon did try to rescue him, and i appreciate the members of the military trying to do that, but the problem we have here is we're dealing with a very different, vicious, vsavage grume, and it doesn't seem, at least from the outside, it doesn't seem we have a strategy. a few air strikes and bombing them with drones is sort of maintain the status quo, but that's it. we have a far bigger situation, at least i think. am i wrong? >> i think you're correct. especially it's a shame because we have a natural group, the kurds, who are willing fighters, who want to take arms against
isil. they need our help. and they need far more than these limited air strikes. they want weapons. they want the ammunition. they're willing to fight this terrorist organization that's going to stop at nothing, so we pray for steven's life. we pray for all the journalists being held there, and steven is sadly not alone. but i think that if we are able to help those folks in iraq and in syria who are willing to take on these guys, i think that we can turn this around. it is not hopeless, and i think that our military can do it. we have the hardware and we have drones. we have great intelligence. >> don't tell me about the great intelligence. i'm not big on it. i actually am deeply disturbed that cia director brennan has been spending his time spying on senate staffers, and then -- >> that's a shame, i agree, greta. >> it's a shame because this is
what he should -- i don't know if you could have better intelligence, but i would much rather have him paying attention to isis than what a bunch of senate staffers are doing on their computers. >> even the german leader and the president of brazil. i mean, we have done a very bad intelligence operation, but i think in terms of getting the drones and getting to know where these folks may be, i hope that they can find steven, and i hope that they can save him. and that's my prayer every day for that family. >> but then you've got the whole problem with all those people who are part of isis carrying passports for western europe, and you've got a very rich organization. are we boog truly realistic about what we're dealing with. i want to get steven back, too, but are we focusing on the big picture? are we doing that? >> we kept -- we did not keep our eye on the ball. this terrorist organization more
from what president called jv organization, that is really just a regional problem, to an international headache, a massive terrorist organization that has no respect for human life. and we let precious months go by. >> how could he even in january have referred to them as jv if he had good intelligence? where's our intelligence community in getting information about isis. isis didn't suddenly become awful people six weeks ago. they have been there, they have been on the ground. i don't know, you know, i assume the president is getting his information from our intelligence, the cia and everything. >> sadly, we're getting back to a pre-9/11 mentality and that's very dangerous. these terrorists are still there. they are our enemies. we have to defeat them. that's what we should be focusing on every day. >> agreed. agreed. anyway, representative, thank you. >> thank you, greta. >> viewers, you heard defense
secretary hagel say isis is not just well funded. it's rich. well, it's very rich. it robbed a bank in mosul in june and got $425 million. that's just starters. it now has oil and lots of it. the former deputy assistant secretary of defense under president reagan joins us. i want to focus on the oil money. what do they have? >> well, they've got a number of things. in eastern syria, they've got oil wells. in western iraq, they have oil wells and refineries. as you pointed out, they robbed a bank to the tune of half a billion with a "b." they're thought to have roughly two billion. they're getting revenue from selling extra weapons, from selling antiquities and kidnappings and ransoms. they're getting nearly $2 million a day. that makes them not only the best equipped military because they have all of the state of the art american kwipt, but it
makes them the richest. if you take that coupled with the fact they're somewhere near 7,000 european passport holders fighting in syria and iraq and several hundred american passport holders, in other words, those groups could come to the united states. they're rich. they've got money, seed money. they can form cells and they're clearly not afraid of anything. in fact, the leader of isis has said in the past, see you in new york. their goal is to bring the fight to america. >> just let the viewers get a sense of this. they now control seven oil fields and two small refineries, and they've got all this oil. they're selling 40,000 barrels a day, which is about $2 million a day. they sell it on the black market for anywhere from $25 to $60, when if they were selling it on the regular market, it would be $102, so people want to buy it from them. people are buying lots of oil from them. they're getting money.
it's coming in over the transom. >> what are they using the money for? they used to be called al qaeda in iraq. they didn't have a very good experience. they got kicked out by the sunni tribes for being too violent and too brutal. they had a rebranding. they're taking over the areas and holding them. how? because they're paying off, they're offering bribes to the sunni tribes, and they're no longer violent to those people as they used to be. they're letting the local guys run it. they're saving their violence for christians, for religious minorities, for everybody who doesn't agree with them. >> k.t., thank you. >> yeah, thank you. >> and while the world focuses on the brutality of isis, another islamic extremist group, boko haram is growing and terrorizing africa. they seized control of another nigerian town, hosting their flag over the local government building, but it gets worse.
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not just from republicans but democrats too for continuing his vineyard vacation in the middle of the isis crisis. how did president obama respont to yesterday's mounting criticism? you guessed it. today, he made a beeline back to the golf course. joining us, our political panel. bob kustak, susan, and steven. bob, first to you, what do you think? the president immune to this? >> i don't think he's immune. the optics don't look good. these are eight rounds of golf. i mean, michelle obama must be a very understanding spouse. i can't play a couple rounds of golf when i'm on vacation, but i do think because the world is on fire, but i don't think obama cares. i really don't. and clearly -- >> why doesn't he care? because he thinks it's not a problem or he doesn't care? >> he doesn't care about the golf criticism because he continues to do it and he says, hey, i'm on vacation.
it's a working vacation. i came back to washington. >> which was weird. has anyone figured out why he came back? >> it was a really important party by his assistant chef and that msnbc host. he was there if four or five hours. you don't want to miss a party like that, greta. >> susan, your thought on the president? >> so the top golfer of all time was president eisenhower. 800 rounds of golf during his presidency. right now, obama is right at about 200 rounds. we can't just criticize him for golfing allot, but it's pairing the golfing trips with the crisis on the world stage and then you look at the way the public views his aptitude for foreign policy. it's in the 30s or 40s. the public is catching on that he's not really interested in foreign policy, but we really need a president at this point who can lead on foreign policy because of what's going on in the middle east. >> i'll tell you another issue. you talk about foreign policy. it's very important that the president be able to lead in the
foreign policy realm. that includes having influence around the world. the brits woke up today to a front page of their newspaper, the daily mail, and the president is in a golf cart laughing with alonzo mourning because of this. where david cameron rushes back to london. >> the president and his team should be noticing if they're finally returned from the 18 hole that this is coming from the new york daily news. this is not coming from crazy right wingers complaining about this from the beginning. it's not the number of golf or the fact he plays golf. it's the contrast. one of the most tired lines. obama has used it like 30 times, whenever there is a crisis, we will not rest. that sounds good. we're really determined. we're fired up, and in many cases he literally goes on vacation or goes on to a political fund-raiser, to golf, after saying that. >> he went off to a fund-raiser. it looks like he doesn't care. i would love to know right now what people, his closest
advisers, people who surround him, what are they saying to the president right now? because surely they're notets -- >> did you see senator claire mccaskill's quote? >> it's like eating spinach to him. he does not enjoy spending time -- >> that's right. a long complaint that he doesn't work with them. >> he doesn't have anyone around him to tell him, mr. president, maybe cut it back on the golf. i don't think he does. the person who could tell him that was rahm emanuel and he's long gone from the white house. >> think the biggest criticism if he showed up more often during the day and talked to the american people or we saw more of the generals talking to him, we had an impression he was doing other things, that's the problem. >> right now, as we talked before on this panel, he's looking beyond his presidency. that's why they call him the president in semiretirement. he's been criticized for not having his head in the game. >> panel, thank you. up next, we'll take you to ferguson, missouri, as the sun
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you're looking live at the streets of ferguson, missouri, where the sun is soon to set. if there is trouble tonight, we'll see it first right here any moment. missouri's governor ordering the national guard to leave the town. on the record has a team on the ground monitoring the situation.
we spoke with missouri highway patrol captain ron johnson. >> thank you for taking the time. >> sure. >> i know you're tired. i'm exhausted. more importantly, how are your men doing? >> they're doing good. they're energized. they're committed to getting things back to normal. >> tell me a little bit about the operation as a whole, how it's going. >> there's a lot of hope last night. i think everybody went home thinking there is a lot of hope this is going to get back to normal. and they appreciate it. >> you have what you call agitators and criminals with peaceful protesters exercising their first amendment rights, many of them out of towners. >> many of them out of towners but let's not let it get lost. we have many people who live here in missouri who are also part of the problem. many people here in north county who are from surrounding areas that are part of the problem. there's a good mixture of issues we're dealing with, and we're going to deal with them, but
there are a lot of great people. >> tell me, if you will, what are the biggest challenges you've got? what are your big hurdles right now as we go forward? >> our biggest hurdles are bringing this community back to a sense of a normal environment, allowing these businesses to get back. allowing the schools to reopen. and allowing the homeowners to get back out in the communities. so that's a challenge we have, and to do that, we have to rid these criminals and agitators of this community. we're going to do that by whatever means we need to. our guys are going to protect that. we're going to make sure they have the proper gear on to train for that. i was asked last night why they're wearing helmets with shields. for a sense of protection. it's not a sense of intimidation. it's a sense of protection with bottles and urine and some of those things thrown at them. >> any idea how this ends? >> it ends in peace. >> thank you, captain. >> thank you. and kris jenkins joins us
live from ferguson. >> hi, greta. captain johnson is doing a remarkable job of leading this operation, but he couldn't do it without the brave men and women serving tirelessly out here day after day. and the equipment like the bearcats, an armored vehicle that is used here across the united states to break barricades. it looks like something you would see in a war zone, and we went for a ride in it as we hit the streets of ferguson last night. there was a perception this is an ominous looking vehicle but you need that in this situation when you're being shot at. >> yeah, we have taken a lot of gunfire and projectiles. you know, throughout the last 12 days. so, you know, we have had a lot more injuries, so yeah. it kept everybody safe, everybody back here, all the officers back here, the ones who have been getting out of the vehicle, they want to go home to see their families, and you
know, this is to keep them safe. >> greta, that bearcat we were in obviously didn't get shot at last night, thank goodness, and the folks that couldn't be happy seeing law enforcement officers, but without that, they wouldn't be able to be in such a difficult situation. lieutenant colonel dierks that i was with last night said in the 28 years he's been here in missouri on the force, he's never seen protests like this and as violent. what is left out of this story very often is these men and women. 12 days now, they have families many of them, serving hour after hour, day after day, night after night, trying to keep the peace here, and without them, it would be a very different place. greta. >> thank you. and we're 12 days into this investigation, still no answers to critical questions. was officer darren wilson hurt? if so, where was he hurt, how
badly, and how far away from michael brown was officer wilson when he pulled the trigger? on the record, defense lawyer ted williams has more from ferguson. good evening. the lingering question, trying to piece this together to find out to what extent the officer was hurt, how much was he hurt, and where, what part of his body? >> hi, greta. you know, you have just asked the $64,000 question. what we had last night was unconfirmed ro eed reports that reported that the officer suffered from a fractured eye socket. injury. but there's been another change of unconfirmed information put out there, that he did not have a fractured socket eye injury, but that he suffered a swollen jaw. greta, i don't think we're going to be able to find out right away. i think that there are certain sources that are putting bits and pieces of information out there, and there are other sources that are -- that we have
not been able to unfortunately verify. but i have to tell you, greta, i have been out among all of those demonstrators, just to try to find out what their thinking was. you knee, we see them night after night, but i'm going to bring you their thinking. take a look at this. >> he ran, and because he had his hands up, that is an act of surrender. you do not shoot, and even prisoners of war get better treatment than that. >> i believe it was how many shots? six? at close range. i don't see how you would think someone would survive that. >> i feel he could have tased him because they have other means instead of using the gun on the young man, and then the officer probably feared for his life because the boy was standing 6'4" and that man looked real little. >> police is not supposed to kill our children. they are supposed to protect them. >> they think they can just shoot, shoot, shoot. i'm not saying all police
officers are bad, but this one right here, it was an unjustified killing. >> i think everybody should be treated fairly, but to me in this case, fairness and justice for him would be that he's indicted and he's arrested and charged with first degree murder. >> greta, as you can see, everybody has an opinion here. and all of the opinions differ. some want officer wilson to be prosecuted. some want him to be arrested. some, if they could, would want him hung. the emotions are running high. it's hard to decipher who it wants to be fair in this whole entire scenario. >> and the most disturbing thing is, as you say, ted, everybody has an opinion, but nobody has the facts. we don't have the toxicology report, whether there's clothes, whether there's any gun powder residue. there's so many facts we don't
have. anyway, ted, stay with us. >>. up next, the calls getting louder for the prosecutor in the brown case to recuse himself from this investigation. should he? our legal panel is here next. . . .
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protesters taking to the street in clayton, missouri, demanding the prosecutor recuse himself from the michael brown case, but -- joining us, our legal panel, ted williams is back, and katie fang. katie, your thoughts. should the prosecutor step aside for this case only? not get out of his job but step aside in this case? >> i'm going to say no. i may take some heat for it, but i'm going to say no. i'm sure the optic would be great, greta, for him to basically recuse himself from this prosecutor, but there's been no suggestion, nothing objective that would suggest he needs to step down from this. at this point in time, i think they need to continue to do his job. do it objectively, and do it
well. >> all right, ted, your turn. >> greta, we've got a game of chicken and politics being played here between two men. we have the governor of the state of missouri who has declared a state of emergency and who could replace the prosecutor. we have the prosecutor who is saying that if the governor tells me that he wants to replace me, i will go. now, what's significant about that, greta, is that this is the same governor, governor nixon, who has come out and just about said that this police officer irrespective of what the evidence is, should be prosecuted. so at any time the governor -- >> should the prosecutor stay on the case or not? >> well, i think that the prosecutor should stay on the case, or i think the pressure and the world is looking at him, and i think he should stay on the case, absolutely. >> all right, i'm going to disagree with both of you, and i know all the viewers are going
to jump all over me. >> i expected that. >> i will. >> i'm going to tell the viewers why. i want the viewers to know one thing. i am not saying this prosecutor can not be fair. i'm assuming he's the fairest person in the world. i'm saying he should take a longer vision of this in this unique case because if he presents it to a grand jury and there is no indictment, the community is going to be in an uproar and say he was biased and unfair because his father, who was a police officer in a course of an arrest was shot and killed by a black man. so that is going to be horrible. if, on the other hand, the prosecutor gets an indictment against the police officer, then people are going to say you can indict a ham sandwich and he only did it to sort of quiet the community. because of the unique circumstances and because i would suggest that even though i'm saying he's fair is on this particular case, take the long vision. step aside, let his first assistant do it, and i would
also say there's some sort of guidelines from the national association of prosecutors which says you should recuse yourself if you think people will view you as unfair. take me on. >> katie, let me go at her first. i could not agree with you. if you take this prosecutor off, the governor then, let's say, appoints someone. suppose that person doesn't get an indictment, so what happens then? >> i'm saying take the first assistant in the office. he has a lot of assistants. katie? >> but greta, aren't you creating a slippery slope problem. let's say he recuss himself and the first assistant -- by the way, some of the first assistants are presenting to the grand jury right now. he himself is not doing it. putting that aside, fast forward a little bit, greta. what if you have the same common denominator of facts? then he does have abobligation to recuse himself then because he did it before?
you don't succumb to the pressure. >> katie is right, greta. >> citizens are so raw and have taken to the streets on both sides, i think this is the one case in a million where you try to take a longer look and you try to do everything you can to try to build up on both sides of this dispute. people have taken sides and we haven't heard the facts. everyone has made a decision, and we haven't heard a single fact, but that's what i would do. >> come on, greta. if you do it on this case, and i hear you say the one case, but then it will be the two case, and the three case. you can't set this kind of a precedent. you put the pressure on this prosecutor. the whole world is looking at him. the whole world knows about him. and he, i believe, is going to do the right thing. >> let me give katie the last word. you have ten seconds and then we have to go. i'm giving you the last word. >> well you know what, you have to consider this. the man has a history like we all do. i know his father was killed in the line of duty when he was 12
years old and the perpetrator was an african-american. i know there was a huge scandal or this big controversy that happened back in 2000 when he did not indict the two white detectives that shot the two unarmed african-american drug suspects. but you know what? that was 14 years ago. that was how many years ago in terms of his father being murdered? i think everybody needs to take a step back and look at it with some objectivety and say he hasn't shown he can't do the job well so let him do his job. >> ted and katie, thank you both very much. straight ahead, i'm going to talk to you off the record. i'm going to tell you why the whitehouse.gov documepatricians phony. ♪ [ dog barks ] ♪ [ male announcer ] imagine the cars we drive...
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court documents now exposing the motive behind a murdered college student. one of his alleged killers told police that the murder was revenge for u.s. military killings in the middle east. prosecutors say that he is a devout muslim and -- he is also charged with three murders in seatt seattle. an american recovering from ebola virus spent three weeks in a hot in atlanta. dr. kent brantly was released today. >> today was a miraculous day, i am thrilled to be alive, to be well and to be reunited through my family. through the missionary team in liberia, the use of an experimental drugs and the expertise and resources of the health care team at emery
university hospital, god saved my life and i'm glad for any attention my sickness has attracted to the tragedy in liberia. >> nancy writeboll was released from the hospital on tuesday. let's all go off the record for a minute. i have a message for "the washington post," which is don't hold your breath waiting, what am i talking about? the post printed an argument with the headline. the white house must respond. must? well, that's laughable. the post has been punked. and this is not a slap at "the washington post" or michael browne and his family, but a slap directly at the white house and president obama. that precision stuff on white
house.gov is a gimmick, this is a fox news alert and you know what? you did it. 100,000 of you have officially signed that white house petition to get his case in front of the president. that was back on may 30th. the white house promises, yes, to answer petitions that reach 100,000 signatures within 30 days, has the white house kept its promise to enter the petition? not even a peep out of the white house. it's been more than 2 1/2 months already. the white house has just ignored it. the sergeant served two terms in afghanistan for our nation, that means for us, and suffering from ptsd after an ied explosion. while president obama is busy, well, golfing. i guess he's too busy to keep his word. that's my off the record comment tonight. and coming up, the pope making a very important phone call, that's next.
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stay tuned for that. hope you have a great labor day. "fox & friends" starts right now. hey, everybody, and good morning. today is monday, september 1st, 2014. it's labor day, everyone. i'm in for elisabeth hasselbeck. just call them jihadis gone wild. could have been a bit shallower for them. but it's not summer vacation video. these rowdy partiers are islamic militants celebrating inside the united states compound they've just taken over. >> and there he goes again. alec baldwin flying into a fit of rage. surprise, surprise. and wait until you hear what set him off this time. and three weeks after he killed a fellow driver on the track, tony stewart makes his nascar comeback.
>> tony stewart! [ cheers and applause ] >> but his triumphant return ends early. those details and the video, straight ahead. mornings are better with friends. you're watching "fox & friends," the number one morning cable news show in america. >> great to be with everyone. thanks for joining us. jesse watters. >> the hodgepodge right here. >> i'm in for elisabeth. we'll be asking for your labor day pictures, how are you celebrating, how have you celebrated in years past? we want you to be a part of the show, the barbecues, the parades. right now, ainsley has the weather. >> and i'm filling in for heather! >> we are the "a" team. >> all right, let me tell you what happened over the weekend. there was extreme weather over the labor day holiday. terrified beach-goers running for their lives as lightning
strikes three people on a new york beach. two of the victims, a father and his teenage son, were taking shelter under a tree when that lightning bolt hit the tree, sending them flying at least ten feet. take a look at this photo. the lightning was so powerful, look at that, it shredded their clothes. >> it was really loud, like, just, boom! like a bomb blew up. >> lightning hit the water. >> it hit the water? >> it hit the water or the sand. you could see an explosion. >> just things lifting up and people just running. and this picture out of florida. thunder and lightning forcing the florida gators football team to postpone and then cancel their home opener. terrifying moments at a church bazaar in texas. two people are seriously injured after falling nearly 30 feet to the ground midcarnival ride. fire crews believe the ride malfunctioned, but witnesses say at least one person who fell was not wear his seat belt. the victims' conditions were not yet released.
a massive hacking scandal hitting hollywood. racy photos of more than 100 celebrities, including jennifer lawrence and kate upton, leaked online. a glitch in apple's icloud storage system apparently allowed the hacker to get into their iphones. jennifer lawrence's publicist saying "this is a flagrant violation of privacy. the authorities will prosecute anyone who posts the stolen photos." coming up, we'll tell you how to protect your iphone from hackers. >> every guy in studio paying attention to that story. a bittersweet return to r e racing for tony stewart fans, thrilled to see him after a three-week break, but a flat tire forcing him out of the race. they seemed, though, very happy to see him back behind the wheel. >> we all look at him, you know, just to lead us and to guide us. and you know, it was good to have him back. we look forward to going on to the rest of the year and getting him back to victory lane. >> stewart still troubled from the tragic death of kevin ward jr. three weeks ago. and those are your headlines. back to you guys. >> all right, ainsley. thanks so much.
well, it's jihadists gone wild, throwing a pool party at the cia annex in libya. how in the world did this even happen? peter ducy joins us live from washington, d.c., with the answer. good morning, peter. >> good morning, anna. and the latest video out of libya looks like a party theme from a movie about having the neighborhood over when someone's parents are away, but the backdrop isn't a house, it's this cia residential annex in tripoli, and the men on screen are not harmless teenagers, they are reportedly jihadists with a group called dawn of libya, who look like they're having a blast, cheering each other on, diving off the roof and into the pool. apparently, these militia men moved in a week ago, but it's been more than a month since american personnel moved out, with the state department saying "at this point, we believe the embassy compound itself remains secure, but we continue to monitor the situation on the ground, which remains very fluid.
the primary reason the united states temporarily relocated our personnel and operations from tripoli recently was the ongoing fighting between militias occurring very close to our compound." furthermore, ambassador to libya, deborah jones, tweeted "per my knowledge and recent photos, the u.s. embassy tripoli compound is now being safeguarded and has not been ransacked." right now we still don't know exactly who the u.s. government hired to guard these specific buildings in libya after all the americans left, but it doesn't look like those guards did a very good job. back to you. >> all right, peter. thanks so much. >> interesting. doesn't look like it's all being that well protected. >> no. it looks like justin bieber's house over there. high-dives and carrying on. >> yikes. well, today, britain's prime minister, david cameron's going to be laying out a counterterrorism plan. we already saw him raise the terror threat level to severe, the highest it's been in some three years. and he's going to be cracking
down on passports, making it easier to strip terror suspects of those. this is something that we've seen from a lot of commentators, saying the president is showing a real sign of weakness, not leading in the way that david cameron is. this no-strategy strategy is not working for him. >> and he quickly raised the terror level threat and already is coming up with a plan, stating that today. it's creating mixed feelings, even among the democrats. one democratic congressman had this to say yesterday on the house intelligence committee. take a listen. >> i know the president was criticized saying we don't have a plan. you just don't come in and bomb unless you know where you are, who you're going to get. you don't want collateral damage killing other people. and when the time is right, we will do what we have to do. you just don't rush in because the media is talking about it. you don't rush in because other countries aren't going to tell
us what to do. >> interesting. what does rush in mean? i mean, it's not like this hasn't been going on for years and now, suddenly, we say wait, we don't want to rush in. >> and they say we don't want to rush in like the bush administration rushed -- let's remember, the bush administration put together a huge coalition. they had u.n. resolutions, they had a vote in congress, there was a year leading up to that. so, i don't think anybody's accusing obama of rushing in. i think everybody's taking their time. but i think the point is, if you're going to announce that you don't have a strategy and then you're going to go play golf, i think the american people, after we've had an american beheaded, are wondering, why are you playing golf? why aren't you working on a strategy? there's a big disconnect here with the president and the american people. >> yeah, and we've heard from senator dianne feinstein, of course, a democrat, who says that, you know what, isis doesn't want to stop until they spill our blood and that the president is simply too cautious in his foreign policy, especially in this instance. take a listen. >> jordan's at jeopardy, lebanon
as the jeopardy, the uaa and other countries are in jeopardy. so, there is good reason for people to come together now and begin to approach this as a very real threat that it in fact, is. >> the president back in january told "the new yorker" magazine's david remnick that isis is the jv team. that was clearly wrong. >> well, i think it's wrong, too. i think it's a major varsity team. >> what do you think about the uprising in 2011 in syria? the president has said several options put before him, according to mike rogers. he says this is simply the president not wanting to be engaged. he's had time, he's had the options, and this is methodical, this is on purpose. >> and also directly contradicting the president. so, completely, exactly the same -- not what the president is saying. take a listen, though, to what one of the republican congressmen is saying, mike rogers. he is saying it is very simple. this is the president's plan. it's intentional, he just does not want to be engaged.
>> we're spending a lot of time talking about things that we won't do. that's the problem. the president wants to tell you what he won't do. he's having a hard time putting the coalition together to talk about what they will do. you're not going to humanitarian aid isis out of iraq and syria. it's going to take more than that. there have been plans on the table. the president just did not want to get engaged in any way. that is a decision. that is a policy. that is a strategy. and it's not working. >> this does seem to be the strategy, is that there is no strategy. he doesn't want to get engaged. you saw it in libya. he led from behind. it was a total disaster. he led mubarak in egypt basically be deposed and did nothing. he drew a red line in syria, and assad is still there and genocide's taking place. so, he's actively trying to not engage, because i think truthfully, he thinks u.s. military power is going to have a negative effect on the region. i think a lot of people disagree with that. a lot of people are looking to join the coalition. but why would you join the coalition?
he's pulled the rug out from under our allies with the red line comment. he's alienated some of our best friends in great britain, in germany, in israel. i think a lot of people don't trust the president to follow through on what he says he's going to do. >> yeah, they think it's a foreign policy failure all the way around and that, certainly, our adversaries are watching this coalition that is hopefully going to be formed at some point during this nato summit on thursday and friday in wales. it's going to be addressing not just isis, but also what putin's doing in ukraine. >> we're going to get a lot more on this this morning. guess what else is in the picture this weekend, labor day? >> our buddle. >> our buddy, alec baldwin. coming unhinged again, getting into a scuffle with photographers. there you go. he's outside a hamptons playground. police are dispatched to handle the situation. the photographer was out there trying to take pictures of him and his family at the playground. and the cops had to be called. >> you know, in some instances, it's like, you feel bad for these celebrities, right?
they can't go anywhere. they can't even go out to the hamptons and new york and enjoy a nice day at the playground with the family, but who acts like this? and it's not as if alec baldwin doesn't have a history of getting into scuffles with the media. >> right. i mean, people say this photographer was provoking alec baldwin and his wife. it's a he said-she said, you don't know what to believe. it's like you poke a bear and the bear's going to attack and run wild, but you don't really give the benefit of the doubt to alec baldwin. he's getting into scuffles almost every week with these guys. it's like a cottage industry. it's good for him, i think, his career now, because whenevhe pua ka areaman and he's back in the picture. >> he grabbed his shirt and apparently the guy didn't press charges. apparently, alec has to behave until january. the cop told him if you have any more problems, it's going to escalate. so, the photographer did not press charges on the guy because he said alec just wants to be with his family, can tell he's a good family guy, loves his kids,
didn't press charges. so, maybe either alec's learning and calmed him down or he realized, i have until january. >> i wouldn't give him to october to behave. we'll see. we'll follow that closely. >> we see how alec baldwin is spending his labor day weekend. what about you? what are you up to? barbecues, pool parties, neighborhood parades, fireworks? send us your pictures and we'll be sharing them throughout the show. all right, coming up, the boston marathon bombing and ft. hood shooting committed by radical muslim americans, but tell that to the fbi. the latest domestic terrorism report doesn't even refer to islamic terrorist threats? and it's a close call for swimmers at the beach. the shark encounter forcing them to scramble. it's a video you have got to see. at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in.
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hey, everyone, good morning. both the boston marathon bombing and ft. hood shooting were committed by radical muslim americans, but tell that to the fbi. their latest domestic terrorism assessment doesn't even refer to islamist terrorist threats. here to weigh in is president of american islamic forum philosophy and retired navy officer dr. jasner.
good morning. great to have you with us. >> good morning. it's great to be with you. >> i want everyone to see what is involved with the fbi extremist list. it says "antigovernment militia groups, white supremacy extremists, black separatists, sovereign citizen nationalists, anarchist, animal rights extremists, environmental extremists, abortion activists and puerto rico nationalists. they're stealing the headlines today, aren't they? it's jaw-dropping that islamic extremists are not on this list. what do you say to this? >> as a muslim who has been fighting radical islam, you wonder why the voice of moderates aren't getting out? you have two major issues. one is, clearly, the administration and homeland security are in a deep state of denial, rooted in political correctness and, basically, a fear of engaging the ideology. they're just afraid to engage it. secondly is, this really is a sign of the deep, profound influence of muslim brotherhood legacy groups and the
organization of islamic cooperation lobby in defining the language that we use in this debate. i mean, abroad in the middle east, they call themselves islamists, and yet, we can't even use that diagnosis to call them. and now we wonder, there's over 200 americans serving in isis, and that just happened in the last few months. it was happening when this report was made and they weren't even talking about it. >> right, and you think back to ft. hood and the shouting of al you akbar, and somehow, it's considered workplace violence. and then take the headlines from last week when we had the two guys from minneapolis who were radicalized and ended up being killed while fighting for isis. we've got estimates of hundreds of western people who have gone, they have western passports. they can come back and hurt our homeland, obviously. what kind of a danger are we in if we don't recognize this issue? >> we're in danger of continuing to be in a whac-a-mole program
where we continue to do the same thing in an insane way without learning the lessons that we have, because we aren't engaged in solutions. the only solution is to engage in muslims that fight against this islamo patriotism that pulls our muslim youth into movements like isis, hamas and other radical groups and pulls them back into american nationalism, british nationalism, western loyalty. and unless we engage muslims like our group that has the muslim liberty project or our american islamic leadership coalition to have a seat at the table, america's going to be more at threat than ever before. i'm sorry, this report is a pre9/11 mentality. and muslims that are fighting for reform are being left in the shadows, because it's as if there's nothing going on within the house of islam, and the oic lobby and the muslim brotherhood groups are driving american policy today. >> dr. jasser, why do you think more muslim groups aren't speaking out like you? you have a unique perspective, being muslim and having served
in the united states navy. but why aren't more speaking out to share the divide and make americans realize that we need to do something about this? >> because the government doesn't want to engage islam and muslims. it wants to pretend no problem exists so we don't even exist, but we exist. we're making statements. if they listen to us, you'll hear more of our voices. >> okay. dr. zuhdi.jasser, happy labor day. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. coming up on "fox & friends," this woman accused of killing her own daughter, but she'll still get the child's trust fund, even if she's convicted? how does that even work? and there is a massive water crisis in california, but critics are saying a new bill would give fish more rights than farmers. it's the latest version of government gone wild. ♪ i wanna know have you seen the rain ♪
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welcome back. some quick headlines now. five people are dead after their small plane crashes into a field north of denver. barely missing nearby homes. witnesses heard the plane sputtering shortly before crashing. it's not clear if the plane was taking off or trying to land. and the search for a pilot who crashed a small plane off the coast of virginia is halted after a boater finds what's believed to be the aircraft's wheel and engine cover. the coast guard says that they are unlikely to find anything else. the pilot is believed to be ronald hutchinson, a retired harley-davidson executive with 43 years of flying experience. jesse. >> thanks, chris. a new law regulating the pumping of groundwater being sent to the california governor.
while it would protect fish in the delta smelt, critics say it takes away property rights and hurts farmers already struggling in a three-year-long drought. tim donnelly is a republican on the california state assembly, and he joins us now from los angeles. good morning. >> good morning, jesse. >> so, let's get this straight. this is not a result of global warming, this is bad liberal government policy. one of the things that's happening is that they're not storing water for times in crisis. they're letting this excess water, basically drift out into the ocean because they want to protect some fish? why is it so important that we now defend this fish? what is this fish? >> well, the fish in question is the delta smelt. and essentially, in order to protect four buckets of minnows from dying every year, they have deprived farmers and ranchers of their basic fundamental allocations of water. you have a state water project that was supposed to build a ton
of dams, and then they were going to have a peripheral canal to keep the excess water that comes down through the rivers and be able to use that for agriculture and ranching and also even residential use in southern california. but instead, they let it run out into the delta, because in large part, they've got to flush out the raw sewage that the city of sacramento and other cities are dumping in there. and that's really killing more fish than anything else. >> so, the same liberal politicians that ended up creating this policy are now trying to come in and save the day. and so, they have this new plan that they're going to do, and then they're going to try to regulate private property.
under the purview and control of the state water resources control board instead of under the control of local communities who have elected water boards. this board is unelected, it's unaccountable, it's based in sacramento, and you're talking about literally -- at some point, they're going to wind up charging people for their own water that they're drawing from their own land. and of course, that will create inflation and food will cost more, all because of the government. >> that's exactly right. now you're seeing, you know, high jobless numbers in these agricultural areas. you're seeing food prices already going up. i don't even know if this is taking a toll on governor jerry brown, but listen, we've got to
go. thank you very much. hopefully, you guys get some rain out there, okay? >> great. thanks. >> all right. coming up, remember this kid catching heat from his neighbor for running a lemonade stand? the ironic trouble that the neighbor now finds himself in this morning. and it's a close call for these swimers at the beach. a shark encounter forcing them to scramble. it's the video you've got to see for yourself. but first, happy birthday to our friend, dr. phil. he turns 64 today. ♪ ♪ baby get your shine on ♪ (car starting) great. this is the last thing i need. seriously? let's take this puppy over to midas and get you some of the good 'ol midas touch. hey you know what? i'll drive! i really didn't think this through. brakes, tires, oil, everything. (whistling)
good morning, everyone. an extreme weather alert on this labor day. thousands of people in sergeant bluff, iowa, waking up in the dark after a massive storm
knocked down power lines and tossed trees into homes. one person struck by lightning. maria marina. that's the word that i messed up on after all that. maria is tracking the storms for us today. >> reporter: hey, good morning. good to see you. hello, everybody! happy labor day. we're all here watching the weather very closely to see what our outdoor plans look like. and like you mentioned, we had extreme weather yesterday across parts of iowa, parts of the plains seeing severe weather. by the w massachusetts, in wooster county -- i believe i'm pronouncing that correctly -- they had a confirmed tornado. an ef-0 with maximum winds there at 85 miles per hour. thankfully, no injuries. and unfortunately today, we could be looking at more severe storms stretching from parts of eastern kansas up into the great lakes. large hail, damaging winds and isolated tornadoes will be a concern. and we are still heading into the peak of the atlantic hurricane season, and i want to take you now to the gulf of mexico, because the national hurricane center is tracking an area of showers and storms,
pretty disorganized right now moving through parts of the yucatan peninsula, and it does have a high chance, about 60%, of being a named storm or a tropical depression within the next 48 hours. temperaturewise, it is going to be a hot labor day across parts of the south and parts of texas. 99 degrees for dallas, 102 in del rio. that's very typical for this time of the year. it's been hot. parts of the southeast also into the 90s. but take a look at rapid city and minneapolis. out there you're only in the 60s and 70s. factor in the humidity across portions of the southeast, and it's going to be a lot hotter, or feel a lot hotter than what it reads like on the thermometer. 99 is going to be your heat index value in the city of memphis. let's head back inside. >> thanks, maria. yes, summer is here finally. we haven't had summer at all. >> it's the end of summer and now it's here. >> worcester, massachusetts. it's worcester. >> remember we told you last week about this cute little
12-year-old who set up a lemonade stand? many of you or your kids have done it. >> yeah. >> well, apparently, he had this crochety neighbor, doug wilkey, who tried to shut him down because he didn't have a license. well, those who throw stones shouldn't live in glass houses. apparently, this guy also is running a business out of his home, allegedly, a financial business, without the proper permitting. >> amazing. amazing how that happens. you know what, this kid is selling lemonade and mowing lawns so he can pay for his own cell phone bill and take his mom to dinner. i mean, how amazing that? >> what a good kid. >> what a good kid. those are the kids we want to be supporting, we want to be raising in this country, not people who are going to run that business out of their homes later on without a license. >> you can't even be a kid anymore. i mean, everyone says go outside and stop playing video games. all of a sudden, the guy goes outside and gets shut down because he's trying to sell lemonade. i mean, you can't play football now because it's too dangerous, you know. you can't sell lemonade, you can't play tag because it might offend people. can't even say merry christmas these days if you're a kid.
it's totally crazy! i don't know what's going on. >> we had d.j. guerrero on the show last week. listen to what he said. >> this lemonade stand is a very good business and that everybody else is supporting the lemonade stand. so, i think he should, too. >> he says it's very loud and some of the people that come there use profanity. >> it does kind of make me upset, the fact that he is kind of lying, because nobody does that. but everybody else is supporting me so much, so that just brings me right back up. >> yeah. and here's the other ironic twist to this. since the neighbor who tried to shut him down, little t.j. has gotten an influx of customers, obviously, because he's been on tv, not just around his neighborhood in florida, but in new york city, in europe, everywhere. he's been given donations, free limo rides and had all kinds of extra customers. so, you know what he's done with that, aside from taking his mom to dinner and paying his cell phone bill?
he's donating himself to things like the humane society. >> a great gift. something tells me that doug wilkey, the man running an illegal business out of his house, will not be getting a boost to his business. >> and if he's smart, he should have hired this kid. the kid's obviously a entrepreneur. bring home to the team! what's going on, guys? >> e-mail us. let us know what you think about this @foxfriendsnews.com. ainsley earhardt has a look at the headlines. >> lots of people hitting the beach, so listen to this. a close call. a hammerhead shark hunting its dinner, getting far too close to two oblivious swimmers in destin, florida. >> get out of water! >> he's coming towards you! go, go, go! >> wow. those are the two swimmers in the forefront of that shot. you can see the shark in the background. the shark was chasing a stingray, but it eventually took a turn, and that's when the two
swimmers saw that shark thrashing around in the water. they immediately -- look at that, they're running on to the beach to get away, just in time. just three days after implementing a new domestic violence policy, the nfl gets its first test. 49ers defensive end ray mcdonald arrested in san jose on felony domestic violence charges. team officials saying that they're aware of the arrest and they're looking into the facts. mcdonald out now on a $25,000 bail, says that fans will know what happened soon enough. >> the truth will come out. everybody knows what kind of person i am. i'm a good-hearted person, i mean, you know. >> well, the nfl just announced a six-game, unpaid ban on players who violate the league's domestic violence policy. a mother charged in her own daughter's death could inherit the girl's million-dollar trust fund, even if that mother is found guilty. nicole diggs, accused of withholding food and medical
care from her 8-year-old severely disabled daughter. but as long as she isn't charged with intending to kill her daughter, she could get all of that money. the trust fund was created in a malpractice suit settlement surrounding complications during that child's birth. he is known for owning trendy restaurants around the country and appearing on "iron chef usa," but now todd english arrested for driving drunk on long island. the 54-year-old celebrity chef getting pulled over around 3:30 in the morning and then later in port posting a $1,500 bail. and those are your headlines. back to you guys. >> hmm, didn't overseat, i guess. he just overdrank. >> yes. he was overserved. >> overserved, one way or the other. coming up, caught on camera, illegal immigrants storming a california beach in broad daylight and what happens next is shocking. the eyewitness who took this video as it happened is here with her experience, here live. and a massive hacking attack leaks the nude photographs of
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hey, everyone. good morning. we have a fox news alert now. the family of jones rivers praying for a miracle this morning as doctors try to wake the 81-year-old from a medically induced coma. let's get right to wnyw reporter theresa priolo live outside of mt. sinai medical center in new york city. good morning. >> good morning. the family remains optimistic but are in a holding pattern, a wait-and-see approach. they have to determine once joan rivers is awakened from her coma if, in fact, she is able to lead any sort of normal life at all. the family over the weekend said
"thank you for your continued love and support. we are keeping our fingers crossed." the feisty and very funny 81-year-old stopped breathing during a routine throat procedure thursday. it occurred at an east side clinic here in manhattan. doctors when she arrived at mt. sinai hospital placed her in a medically induced coma, and yesterday they tried to bring her out of that coma, a process they say will take about three days, anywhere from two to three days. and once she awakes, they will be able to determine exactly what her status is, what type of life she can lead, what her injuries are, and her family will be able to make some type of informed decision from that point forward. this is a woman whose career has spanned six decades. she appeals to all generations. and yet, just the night before she fell ill, she was having dinner with longtime friends who said that she was joking about dying and what she would leave to friends in her will, and she saw this minor procedure as nothing more than a simple little procedure that would be nothing. certainly, no indication of what
was to come on thursday morning. we'll stay here live at mt. sinai hospital to see if the family has any further statement and certainly any change in joan rivers's condition. that's the latest from mt. sinai. anna, back to the studio. >> we're certainly pulling for her. from stand-up comedy to "fashion police," a lot of fans. rick, over to you. >> so true. so, there's a massive hack attack hitting hollywood. racy photos of more than 100 celebrities, including people like jennifer lawrence and kate upton, have been leaked online. the hacker was able to get the photos through a reported glitch in apple's icloud service. so, what do you need to know about protecting yourself with any sharing device? here to explain is kurt ka neutzen, the cyber guy. how's this each happen? >> that's a great question, the first question we need to start with. first of all, the list of these celebrities goes on and on. ariana grande, kirsten dunst or are a couple more.
the website is where all of a sudden, these nude photographs, and apparently, a video that's about two minutes long that would not be the kind of video you would want mom and dad to see of jennifer lawrence is also out and about. and somebody at that site is saying that they'd like you to transfer some money by paypal in order to upload it somewhere else, and they've also commented that they want to keep the fbi from getting involved. well, guess what, buster? if you're in the u.s., the fbi is not only going to be involved, but they will be after the type of break-in that has happened here. the question leads us now -- i mean, this affects celebrities' value in the marketplace. it either ups the ante or, in some cases, it damages the celebrity's future earnings. you and i using icloud -- now, there's no reported confirmation that this did come from icloud. what we know is that anonymously, people have posted at the same site that that is the source of this type -- these
photographs. >> so, we don't know for sure. >> we don't know for sure. >> in a sense, it doesn't really matter. if the photos are out there somehow, the thing you and i and all of us at home need to know, how do we keep that stuff safe? you take a picture on your phone, whatever it is, your kids, your parents, something that you want to be your own personal information. how do we know that's safe out there? >> you may not have the type of information that these celebrities had on their phones that are out there, but here's some tips to get right away. go with a stronger password. it doesn't matter if you're using icloud or another cloud service, you're going to have stuff up there that you want protected. a stronger password is going to take you. on "fox & friends" website, we show you an instructional video how this morning you can logon and see how to make a stronger password. >> quickly on the password. sometimes apple will stay, here's our suggested stronger password. if i pick their suggested stronger password, does that mean i'm then susceptible to that hacker who's getting into that system? >> no, not necessarily. i'm not familiar with the
technique you're talking about. i think that might have been a process that they used in the past. >> okay, got you. >> today they're going to really go for, honestly, they've done a very, very good job at apple locking up icloud and making it very difficult for someone to break in. this, though, underscores the fact that no matter where your information is, it's not safe. >> got you. >> and no matter what, you've got to protect it. >> okay, and i interrupted you on your tips here. what are some of the other tips here? >> all right, you've got to see, what do you have stored? you may not have nude photography, but you might have financial information. >> sure. >> you might have stock certificates. i've scanned those. but i store them locally at home. i will not put them on an icloud device. not because i think it's going to be broken into, but it could. but because i'm just clumsy and foolish and i'll leave my ipad somewhere unlocked, which is another tip. lock your devices. if they don't automatically lock now, they need to lock in the future. now, if, indeed, this was icloud, let me just give you the basic 101 of how that works.
like, how would a celebrity's nude photographs be able to be in the hands of somebody else? >> sure. >> icloud is a cloud-based serving system. so, it's a bunch of computers stored somewhere else with your name on a particular part of them, and that belongs to you. that's where all your information is backed up, photographs of these celebrities are backing up there as well. and when you have that photograph, say in your ipad, it shares it also with your phone and your desktop or your laptop. so, wherever your photos and documents are, it makes it easier so that you don't have to constantly transfer it back and forth. >> there's a lot of these cloud services out there. >> yes. google drive is another very popular one. >> do you think we can trust these things? >> all right, you can trust them about as far as you can throw them, which is, you can't get your hands on these kinds of things. >> sure. >> virtual servers are giant farms somewhere else. no matter what, know that whenever you put something on
your phone or you take a nude photograph, the chances are, it's not protected. >> scary. kurt knutsson, thank you very much. great information. scary times. all right, remember when al gore said the melting polar ice caps would flood the world? not so much. the real inconvenient truth catching up with him. then, illegal immigrants storming a california beach in broad daylight and what happens next is shocking. an eyewitness who watched it all unfold is here next. ♪ coming to your city ♪ gonna play our guitars and sing you a country song ♪ ♪for a snack that isn't lame ♪but this... ♪takes my breath away every time you take advil you're taking the medicine doctors recommend most for joint pain. more than the medicine in aleve or tylenol.
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the footage is shocking. mist rye boat and 20 illegal
aliens storming a san diego beach in broad daylight. >> this didn't just happen once. it happened again the very next day. an eyewitness who watched it all unfold joins us now. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> you were visiting from phoenix. you're in san diego and cooking breakfast for your daughter. look out the window and what do you see? >> i saw a red boat. it looked odd to me going parallel to the shore. out of nowhere, it made a bee line at the con did he and beached itself. >> so what do you do next? >> i grabbed my phone, obviously and ran to the window and two heads turned into four and turned into 20 and they jumped out of the boat and started running up the beach and all i could do was keep snapping away. >> in your wildest dreams, do you think they're illegal immigrants coming across in broad daylight? are you worried about your safety? do you think it's terrorists? what's going through your mind?
>> i think i was in shock. i knew something was definitely not right when they started running. the way they were dressed and the way they left the boat behind. i wasn't sure if i should go wake up my uncle and my husband and ask them to do something about it. i didn't know what to do. >> when you saw all these illegal aliens and scatter, what were the people on the beach doing? were they trying to help them piece? were they running away? was anybody contacting the authorities? >> i didn't see many people on the beach, but i did see a construction crew and i did notice he was on the telephone. the other ones were just standing there pointing, too, in shock. it was in daylight. >> the reports that we're getting is that seven of them were apprehended, but that left everybody else at large. who knows where they are and who knows what happened to the seven that were apprehended. were they caught and released? still in custody? but then what's really wild is that it happened again the next
day. do you think that these people are just getting so bold that they think hey, the borders are open, let's come on in broad daylight? >> i don't know what they're thinking, but it was pretty bold that it happened in daylight. it happened that far up the california beach in mission beach. they did kind of walk, some of them, like they were confident that it was okay what they were doing. >> fortunately, border patrol was waiting for them and there were 20 illegal aliens at that point and those were apprehended. >> they looked pretty brazen, in broad daylight. did you have a preconceived notion about this illegal immigration controversy going in? has this changed your opinion of the immigration crisis in the country after what you saw? >> i definitely feel like we might want to adjust our resources, give them more manpower and the ability to protect our borders and our beaches a little bit more. >> there are reports that the president is going to delay immigration reform until after midterm elections for political
reasons. what do you think about that? >> i think we probably need to adjust our situation right now and take a deeper look at it. >> thank you. i'm glad you're okay and keep snapping those photos when you see something. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up, alec baldwin flying into a fit of rage. and wait until you hear what set him off this time. remember when al gore said melting polar ice caps would flood the world? turns out not so much. this morning the real truth about the inconvenient truth and it's all catching up to him. ♪ ♪ for over a decade,
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hey, everybody. good morning. today is monday, the 1st of september. labor day. i'm anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. they're jihaddists gone wild. can you believe this? islamic militants storming a pool party after taking over a u.s. compound in libya. here he goes again. alec baldwin flies off the handle. and wait 'til you hear what set him off this time. and overnight, some of hollywood's hottest stars exposed. nude photos leaked by hackers who allegedly broke into apple's icloud. is your data vulnerable? you better believe it. mornings are better with friends. >> it's "fox & friends". not only is it labor day, it's september 1. that's the thing that's freaking me out about what today is. >> summer is over.
is it official? >> summer is over, yes. >> but you actually say we'll check in with maria with this. but summer is on the way. >> it will be a really hot week. really the hottest of the summer. so summer didn't happen. here it is. >> it's jihaddists gone wild. islamic militants throw ago pool party. how did this even happen? peter doocy joins us live from washington with the answer. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. normally when you see people jumping off a roof and into a pool on youtube, you expect the amateur dare devils to be harmless young teen-agers. but that is not the case in this video because the men are jihaddists with a group called dawn of libya, a i militia group that moved in there one week ago. the building you see them swan diving off of as others cheer them on is a c.i.a. residential
annex in trip apply abandoned earlier, which means nobody was captured or injured, which turned into a big pool party. right now the state department says we believe the compound itself remains secure, but we continue to monitor the situation on the ground which remains very fluid. the primary reason the united states temporarily relocated our personnel and operations from tripoli was the ongoing fighting between the militias fighting very close to our compound. u.s. ambassador to libya has tweeted this now, to my knowledge and per recent photo, the u.s. embassy tripoli compound is being safeguard and has not been ransacked. right now we still don't know exactly who the u.s. government hired to guard these specific buildings in libya after all the americans left. but it doesn't look like those guards did a very good job. back to you. >> all right. peter doocy live in washington,
d.c., thanks for that. it's unbelievable to see those pictures. >> it's embarrassing as american. >> it is. so just a couple days after british prime minister raised their terror threat in the u.k., today he's making his plan to announce his efforts to combat that terror threat which is great, that he's on the ball here. we have not seen the exact same thing happening obviously from president obama. but some of the democrats are saying that that's all right. so we've heard from one of the top democrats on the house intelligence committee saying that we don't really have enough intelligence. listen to what one democrat had to say. >> i knew the president was criticized saying we don't have a plan. you don't just come in and bomb unless you know where you are, who you're going to get. you don't want collateral damage killing other people. when the time is right, we will do what we have to do. you don't just rush in because the media is talking about it. you don't rush in because other countries aren't going to tell us what to do.
>> it's really sad that they had to have poor dutch go out there and take the heat on this one. obviously a huge guy for the president to admit we don't have a strategy. there has been warnings about the crisis on the border, didn't do anything about that. there were warning signs about the v.a. scandal. didn't really do much about that. and you have the russian invasion of crimea, he issued a warning and now they're deep into ukraine. so it looks like there is military options on the table. that's what the military's job is. the president just hasn't pulled the trigger on anything. >> this has been growing for a few years now. if you remember in january when the president called isis jv, we heard from diane feinstein, another democrat, who says no, isis actual israeli a major jv team. this president is cautious on foreign policy and in this case, certainly too cautious. there is a republican, representative adam kinzinger from illinois, an iraq war veteran, air force pilot, served
on the foreign affairs committee, said perception is everything and the president needs to sound strong. >> that's the battle in this is public perception and not just public per session of the american public, but our enemies. if the president said we're going to take our time to find out where the targets are, but isis should understand they're not going to survive, period, they would quake in their boots because they're no match for the fierce united states military. >> i don't think isis is quaking in their boots when the is the says there is no strategy and then the president says this is just a humanitarian mission. could you imagine if during the bush administration an american was beheaded and the president of the united states says we don't have a strategy? he would have been crucified. but this goes back to what we were talking about before when you show weakness and when you make empty threats about a red line and things like that, there is going to be consequences and then you don't follow through and it emboldens the enemies. it emboldens china, isis, putin. this is what we're seeing as a consequence of this.
>> i think it's great to have a measured and thoughtful response. if that was the case, i could appreciate that. but to say there is no strategy, but the pentagon saying there is plenty of strategies, nobody is making any kind of decision on what to do with that. >> mike rogers, also from the intelligence committee, says the president is doing this on purpose. he do not want to be engaged. we heard others say he would rather push the problem to somebody else and hope that somebody else handles it. there is going to be that nato summit going on thursday and friday in wales and hopefully a coalition of some sort is formed not just to deal with isis, but also to figure out what to do about putin taking over all this territory in ukraine. >> it's time for a look at our headlines. we'll send it over to ainsley. >> thank you so much. good to see all of you. i'm filling in for heather. happy labor day to you. two teen-agers plunged 30 feet from a carnival ride. it happened at a church bazaar in el paso, texas. both teen-agers are hurt.
one critically. a third person had to be rescued from that ride. fire crews believe it malfunctioned, but witnesses say at least one person who fell was not wearing a seatbelt. five people are dead after their small plane crashes into a field north of denver, barely missing nearby house. witnesses say they they heard the plane sputtering moments before it crashed. no word on what went wrong. a bittersweet return to racing for tony stewart. fans were thrilled to see him three weeks after that dirt track tragedy in new york. look at that. a standing o for number 14. a touching reaction for stewart, but the race was cut short for him. he was forced out of the race after slamming into a wall, damaging the suspension and a tire. next week's race in virginia is a must win if he wants to participate in the chase for the sprint cup.
a mad dash for money, armored truck crashing on a rhode island highway dumping bags of dough all over the road. people swarming that scene, it's still unclear if anyone walked away with any money. those are your headlines. >> what to you think? >> i'm sure there are lots of good samaritans there. >> do you remember two years ago that guy robbed a bank and was throwing money out of the car? people were running for it and no one returned the money. >> thanks, ainsley. have you seen the latest antics from alec baldwin? he's spending his labor day in the hampton, something that many of us can't imagine getting the opportunity to do. but wheel he's on a playground, he gets into a bit of altercation with the media. >> pictures wanting to take pictures of this guy, maybe to illicit a response like this because go crazy. one of those, the paparrazzi was there taking a picture, he grabbed his shirt, told him to
stop. and then obviously the cops are called. >> you make a lot of money when you go and get attacked by alec bald in. he probably got this picture and sold it to tmz. the thing is, can you imagine if he was a republican and this guy was just assaulting reporters and members of the media left and right? he'd be killed? but everybody laughs it off because he's this nice democrats and donates all this money to charities. it's a total hypocrisy. >> if he was a republican, he probably wouldn't be getting any work in the first place. >> probably true. >> i think he'll have a hard time with career, unless he just keeps it calm for a number of years. he's kind of lucky because he had fallen out of favor for a long time. he hadn't had a huge hit in a long time of the a lot of celebrityies when you -- they end up at the macy's parade, and a lot of the older actors are so gracious and kind because they've had a long career, which alec has had.
you would think he had more gratitude. >> when the paparrazzi bother me on vacation, i let them take photos. >> there is a small part of me that feels bad for him. he can't dependent away from the media. they follow him around everywhere. and it is like poking a bear. >> poor alec baldwin. >> you know, that's the price you pay for a $10 million paycheck. >> exactly. >> we showed you this ridiculous video. terrorists throwing a pool party after taking over a u.s. compound in libya. up next, why these partiers pose a more dangerous threat than you might think. and a brawl on the gridiron, but this goes way beyond a heated competition. police are involved. ♪ ♪ who's more excited about back to school savings at staples?
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should the united states be concerned another group just like isis could be growing in the middle east? lieutenant colonel tony schaefer, author of "the last line," joins us now. good morning. thanks for being with us. >> good morning. thank you. >> is this them taunting us? this video seems like more something from high school or college spring break. it's jihad had -- jihadis gone wild. >> that's the issue, they have gone wild. this is the best possible face on something very bad going on. these folks are moving out smartly. they're going into all the ungoverned spaces that we helped create and as they go, they actually go about doing things to undermine any governance that's there, which in turn then -- we talked about isis and the extremism in syria and iraq, these folks have the same methodology, same basic ideology, and wherever they go, you will see bad things happen. again, this may look funny, but it really isn't in the long run. >> it's absolutely not. this is so wild, the state department has given us this
statement. contrast that to the video. at this point we believe the embassy compound itself remains secure, but we continue to monitor the situation on the ground which remains very fluid. have they not seen the same video we're showing right now? >> if that's true, i've got some swampland in florida i want to sell you that's really good for development. the state department is completely out to lunch on this. so is the white house. there is this policy of wishful thinking. they all wish this will go away. that's why you don't have an adequate strategy to deal with this as a regional issue. you saw dutch talking about no intelligence. that's a choice. we have the best intelligence system in the world and they've made the choice to not collect because they don't want to have to deal with this. >> so who are these groups and are there any moderates when it comes to terrorists? >> you've got al-shariah that did the take down of the government in -- the consulate in libya back several years ago. you've got the al nusra fronts,
the quote, unquote, moderate element in syria, which we're supposed to be dealing with, who just took prisoner a bunch of u.n. peacekeepers. you have organizations like one of the organization i faced early in the war on terror that used to be called the southwest group of preaching and calm and combat. we defeated them in combat, but because of these ungoverned spaces, because we reopen the door for this, they have come back. when you set your guard down -- i'm not saying we have to be the boots on the ground. we have to work with our ally, you will see these folks come back. and the long run, they'll all come together and do what they want regarding their radical version of islam. >> the united states can't act alone. of course we need some sort of coalition. but what do you think these arab nations need to be doing? >> well, one of the things we've recommended short-term is we partnered with elements that will help push isis and these folks back. the egyptians right now are in libya trying to defeat the folks
there, the folks we've been fighting all this time and we need to look at a long-term solution, nato, if you will. the egyptian, saudi military, the jordanian, we've all trained. they can be the boots on the ground to do what's necessary to bring stability. stability is the key to any sort of democracy. any sort of economic promise. we don't have that, there will be no end of this terrorism. >> yeah. they'll continue taunting us and do worse than throw pool parties. thank you so much. >> thanks. coming up, it's no secret illegal immigrants are flooding our border. but can terrorists do the same? how real is the threat? a former border patrol leader joins us ahead. and didn't al gore say the melting polar ice caps would flood the world? this morning the inconvenient truth catching up with him.
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22 minutes after the hour. time for news by the numbers. first seven years ago. in a real inconvenient truth, former vice president al gore once famously claimed the north pole ice cap would be ice free by now due to climate change. but scientists say the ice cap is actuallyç expanded and is nw twice the size of alaska. next, 90 years. that's how long this arab mascot that's been on the side lines at the southern california high
school now it's been removed after complaints from an antidiscrimination group. finally, 16 years. that's the age of the formula one race driver who crashed his car while showing off and doing doughnuts. the dutch teen-ager will be the youngest formula one driver and was not hurt. it's a struggle that few people truly understand what it's like to be a veteran returning home with the physical and mental scars from war. >> now you're dependent on everybody for everything and it just -- you're mad at the world because that's not who you were and it's just difficult to overcome that. you just don't know what's going on. your world is turned upside down. >> fox's greta van susteren getting a firsthand look into the night on the record labor day special. >> it's called "the next battle" when our hereries come home." griff jenkins joins us now. great to see you. you had a really great
opportunity, there is so many different groups that are doing great things for our veterans. what is special about this group and how did you get involved with them? >> good morning. happy labor day to you. this is a remarkable special because having had the opportunity to see firsthand our brave soldiers, sailor, airmen and marines in ballot, a lot of people don't know the toughest battle begins when you come home. even after you've fixed the broken and banged up pieces that war gives you, there is the reconnecting with your wife, getting your life moving forward. as we heard from mike rawlins in that sound bite there, your world is turned upside down and greta and i traveled up to alaska, bristol bay, it's gorgeous, it's pristine, and reverend franklin graham has this retreat that allows military warriors and their spouses to try to reconnect. we did some amazing stuff. it's hard to put in words just
how therapeutic and wholistic it is to take some wounded warriors struggling with world problems and go see bears up close, bears that are in a stream just ten feet in front of you catching fish. it allows the time to step away from your lives, to get out of the military hospital, to get out of the v.a. and find what matters in life. that's what was so unique about this special. greta and i were lucky to be just journalists witnessing this and to be involved. this is greta's second time to go up there. she asked me this year. she said hey, you want to go up there on the fourth of july? bring a camera. we'll shoot it. i said you bet you. it's quite a remarkable thing, guys. >> since 9-11, almost 50,000 wound warriors have returned home and like you were saying, they don't just come home and everything is the same. they have a dependency on someone else they never had, the world is upside down. but their spouse, either their husband or wife, that takes a long time to heal. what was it like being close to
this kind of intimate healing of these relationships with these people threw in alaska? >> well, we certainly give them time to breathe. so we don't roll the cameras in the intimate moments, but what you do realize is just how remarkable this country is. one of the men you'll see in this piece and i have a sound bite i'm about to play -- chief warrant officer three marine ron perez, he is a first generation american, came to this country, served his country and spent eight tours disarming ieds that have blown up, countless americans, ron perez, here is a little bit of what he has to say tonight. take a look. >> we lost a lot of guys out there to ieds and i knew that i would be called to go back to combat doing that. i felt like every ied, every bomb that i disarmed, that was
one young man, one young woman, husband, wife, son or daughter, that was going to come home. >> so theed going off, but clearly as you can see, the damage remains and you're going to see a fascinating inside look tonight at 7 p.m. >> all right. very excited to watch it. thank you for doing that. great thing to be able to go up and have that kind of experience and these guys need all the support we can give them. watch tonight at 7:00 o'clock. >> coming up, massive hack attack, exposing nude pictures of hollywood's hottest stars. the tips you need to protect your own data. and jenny mccarthy and donny webber tie the knot. but where was marky mark? why the groom's famous brother was a no show. ♪ ♪ introducing nexium 24hr finally, the purple pill, the #1 prescribed acid blocking brand, comes without a prescription for frequent heartburn.
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♪ ♪ >> happy labor day. we're asking you all morning long how you're spending your holiday over the weekend and today, whether it be parades, barbecues, hanging out with the kids. >> it's kind of unofficial end of summer, makes me very, very sad. >> we're going to play so much more beach days. don't worry. ted sent a tweet that said i'm at hawaii volcano national park look at the crater. nod bat. >> tony kelly writes, finishing a 48 hour shift at the pennsylvania national guard operation center. then a quick nap and barbecue this afternoon. >> you have to barbecue first. and amanda says, abbey, sophie and laura spending labor day weekend at mount mitchell state park, north carolina. been there a few times. >> and chris rogers tweets, golf all day today. pinehurst, north carolina. this is the first hole.
>> keep them coming. we love to see how you're spending today. i had one from a truck driver who said i'm delivering groceries for americans today. >> we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> so you keep on sending these pictures to us and thinking your pictures are safe, we just shared them with everybody. but the pictures on your phone may not be so safe. a massive icloud attack. jennifer lawrence, kate upton, ariana grande among others have been exposed in a massive nude photo leak. so is your icloud at risk? >> yeah, it makes a lot of people nervous just thinking about it being out there and not being able to have these physical copies of things. i think probably the first lesson if you don't want people to see you nude, don't take a picture nude in the first place, even if you think it's for your and your husband's eyes only. >> need to get a polaroid. >> that's right. that's a fail safe method. that's right. do you know what this could be? publicity stunt.
this kind of reminds me of when all of a sudden these nude photos leak and then all of a sudden, someone's got a movie coming out the next week. it's just the timing seems a little bit odd. >> but it's 101 celebrities, unless they all band together. >> i want to know where we find these photos that goes through every guy's mind, where are the photos? >> this isn't just that and for these people. think about all the other things. i a lot of times i will take screen shot of a bank statement or something i want to have later on down the road. that's i think what most of us might be dealing with. earlier i talked to kurth the cyber guy and he had something to say about this. >> virtual servers are giant farms somewhere else. no matter what, know that whenever you put something on your phone or you take a nude photograph, the chances are it's not private. you may not have nude photography, but you might have financial information. you might have stock certificates. i've scanned those. but i store them locally at home.
i will not put them on an icloud device. it doesn't matter if you use icloud or another service, you'll have stuff up there that you want protected. a stronger password will take you there. >> a strong password and multiple passwords. >> you know what else scares me? i don't even know how to put something on the cloud or on to my local server and i'm pretty smart with the computer. i think that's a problem for most of us, you don't even know that you put stuff into a cloud. >> yeah. i didn't even know what a cloud was. i thought it was up in the sky before we did this segment. i'm kind of clueless about this stuff. but i do know your password has to be bigger than 1234. >> or your dog's name. >> right. put an exclamation in there, maybe an asterisk. this is a brave new world out there. you have your health records now potentially going on line, the nsa is look at all your e-mail. there is red light cameras everywhere. you got to be careful. >> i'm concerned about the iphone 6 is rumored to be about to come out. one of the things aside from having a bigger screen is it will be a lot easier to pay with
a swipe of your phone rather than carrying around your different credit cards. is so sensitive information is leaked, how is everything else not going to? >> it's also rumored to get a deleted photo back. so think about you think i'm delete ago photo, now it's gone. but now if there is a way to get it back, clearly that photo wasn't completely gone. so that makes it more scary. clouds, speaking of clouds, clouds that i understand a little bit better and someone is here with us, brand-new video into "fox & friends," the aftermath of a tornado that tore through worcester, massachusetts. 85 mile-per-hour winds, toppling trees and cars. this happened last night after it was dark. maria molina is here tracking these storms for us for labor day. >> hi. good morning. that's right. that tornado stood on the ground for almost two hours in massachusetts. today we have the risk for more severe weather stretching from portions of the plains including parts of kansas, parts of oklahoma, up into portions of the great lakes and the concern
out there today is going to be some damaging winds. i think that's the biggest concern. there is still that risk for isolated tornadoes and also some large hail with some of these storms. that's going to be something to watch. we have a line of storms early this morning pushing through portion of missouri. now switching gears into the tropics, we are heading to the peak of the atlantic hurricane center. we're almost there now. you can see the national hurricane center is tracking an area of showers and storms out there across parts of the southern belt of mexico, across the yucatan peninsula. 60% chance of this system developing into a tropical depression or the next named storm system. 70% chance over the next five days. clearly they think there is some possibility of development out here across this region. we'll keep an eye on that. otherwise temperature wise, it will be a hot one today across parts of the south. take a look at parts of texas. 99 for your high in dallas. you factor in the humidity out there, and it's going to feel hotter than that. it will feel like 104 in the city of dallas and 98 in tampa.
if you can, head out to the beach along parts of the coast. let's head over to you inside. >> thank you. >> get some more summer in. it's not done yet. ainsley earhart has a look at the news headlines for us. good morning. >> good morning. thank you so much. much needed support for a u.s. marine sitting in that mexican prison. a florida motorcycle group, here is some video of them, they're made up of fellow marines and raised money for sergeant tahmoreesi. his legal fees are nearing $100,000 now five months after he was arrested for making that wrong turn across the border with three legal guns in his truck. this coming as the white house finally responds to at that petition demanding his release. coming up at 8:40, his mother will join us live to discuss that long-awaited white house response. 49ers ray mcdonald free on bail. he was arrested on felony domestic violence charges. the arrest just days after the
nfl implemented a new domestic violence policy. mcdonald accused of having an altercation with his fiance during his own birthday party. the fiance allegedly showing police officers bruising on her body. mcdonald claims that fans will know what happened soon enough. >> i need the truth to come out. really know what kind of person i am. good hearted person, i mean. >> a hearing is now set for september 15. if found guilty, mcdonald could be benched for a while. the nfl just announced a six-game unpaid ban on players who violate the league's domestic violence policy. a brawl breaks out during a high school football game. both benches clearing in ohio after one player hits another on the opposing team. the game canceled as police have
to move in and they do arrest three people. at least two others were taken to the hospital, including a football player. new kid on the block, donnie walberg and jenny mccarthy are newlyweds. they tied the knot in front of 80 people in chicago. one vip guest noticeably absent, donny's brother, mark. he was at his 11-year-old daughter's birthday party. but sent well wishes via instagram. >> congratulations from all of us. wish we could be there. >> congratulations! >> love you. >> congratulations. very happy for you. see you soon. >> inside sources say mark and jenny are not on good terms. those are your headlines. >> is that carmen electra? >> it was mtv. >> i would never admit that.
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praying r a miracle as doctors try to wake the 81-year-old from a medically induced coma. live outside mount sinai hospital in new york is our reporter. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. the family is really in a holding pattern right now. they are waiting to see what happens over the next few days. it will really be very telling to her condition when she gets out of this coma what her prognosis will be. the family released a statement yesterday saying thank you for your continued love and support. we are keeping our fingers crossed. the feisty and very funny 81-year-old stopped breathing during a routine throat procedure thursday at a manhattan center. doctors here at mount sinai hospital where she was brought put her in a medically induced coma and there are sources reporting that she's on life support. yesterday they began taking her out of that coma and said it would take a few days before they really understood the gravity of her situation, the extent of her injuries, and what
her long-term prognosis would be. just a day before she had that very routine procedure, she was out to dinner with friends, she was joking about this, saying it's nothing. it's just a simple little procedure. let's hope that she is able to pull through this situation that she's going through right now and really have the last laugh. that's the latest from live outside mount sinai. back to you. >> thank you so much for your time today. the white house already caught offguard by isis in the middle east, could it happen again here at home? >> the cause of the condition of the border from the standpoint of it not being secure and us not knowing who is penetrating across, that individuals from isis or other terrorist states could be and i think is a very real possibility that they may
have already used that. >> ron coburn is the former national deputy chief of the u.s. border patrol and just returned from ha trip to the border and he says we should all be on high alert. you just got back from the border. is there actual intelligence that you're seeing that shows that isis is reaching out to mexican drug cartels and potentially crossing the southern border into texas? >> yes, there is significant evidence and chatter to call it that to being discussed amongst the intelligence community here in the united states that organization such as isis are in fact reaching out to the very unscrupulous cartels and cartel leadership in mexico. they are a marriage one might call, that is quite a high risk to the united states of america. if we think that the terrorist organization in the middle east are dangerous, beheadings, all
one has to do is look just south of our border to see the cartels as dangerous and compared to past years where we thought law enforcement community that they had some screwles or lines they would not cross, this new generation of cartel leadership has no limit and would they facilitate the entry of terrorists into this country? absolutely. i think we need to be watching this coming 9-11. >> the president has not been to the border recently when he was asked to go down there. he's cut funding for the border patrol. he eliminated building the border fence. you were just down there. how is morale down there? do you even think the president believes in borders? >> actually i will be going back to the border after this show this morning. that's how focused i am right now on what is going on in the state of the border.
last week i was in el paso, texas, the day after a high number of border patrol employees were served letters by this administration informing them that they will be reduced in pay by as much as 20%. >> wow. >> which means they'll be reduced in hours of work, which means fewer agents on the border. morale is at an all-time low in the 35 years that i have been doing this kind of work. >> in terms of the solution right now, if we had a president that did want to fortify the border, during the bush administration we had a hot spot in arizona, they addressed the situation. they flooded the zone. we had reduction of illegal crossings from about 2700 to just six. what lessons could we learn from that to apply to today? >> yes. i was chief in houma sector when president bush visited houma a first ever for that community twice, once in 2006 and a follow-up to see the progress
made in 2007. significantly the example you used, smugglers at will, they're choosing a location of their choice would load up vehicles, whether it was ten illegal aliens or 1,000 pounds of narcotics, we didn't know. we recorded 2706 known drive-throughs. a year later with the tactical infrastructure fence, we reduced that to six and we caught all of them. we reduced cross border illicit trafficking and crime by 95%. it can be done. but i think right now we have some leadership all the way up to the white house that don't even know the border patrol and have never been down there and actually one wonders whose side they're on. >> wow. stunning. please keep us posted. thank you very much. >> my pleasure. coming up, a new laptop sounds like a pricey end of the summer splurge.
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outdoor. retailers are moving things out to make room inventory for things like snow shovels and leaf blowers. first up we have a gas grill, a char broil grill. it's normally $199. it's on sale for 169. that's a savings of 15% off. you can get that at the home detail and free shipping. look for that on your big items. free shipping will be key for large items like that. >> that makes sense. patio furniture also? >> yes. for the big outdoor item. for me and you, we have this great coffee and cream colored outdoor patio furniture set. it's aluminum, great for all weather. it's five piece, comes with the willows. normally 2 thousand dollars. you're going to get it today for $899. what an incredible savings. >> good deal. kids going back to school. you need computers. >> yeah. this is an incredible savings from staples. they're having a blowout from electronics. you don't have to wait for cyber monday. this is 34% off.
in store, normally $499. but there is like $100 off in store. another $20 off. fifty dollars rebate that really drives down the price. also you can get great deals on digital cameras this time of year. don't forget the great school supplies. fifteen cents. when was the last time you put a dime and in this case toll buy something? the mini sharpies, 25 cents each. what a great deal. >> awesome. clothes, you can get good deals on? >> yeah. for kids for back to school, now is a great time to stock up on all the fall basics. we have faux leather, nice warms and cozies to take them into fall. also we have a great graphic up. great summery dresses. now is the time to stock up end of season, you can get great deals on zulilly. >> you just have to have storage for all your summer stuff for next year. >> absolutely. >> thank you very much. we're going to send it back to you inside. >> thanks so much. 7:56 now. they're jihaddists gone wild.
islamic militants throwing a pool party after taking over a united states compound in libya. ed henry is here live from the white house.
good morning, everybody. thanks for being with us today. it's monday, the 1st of september, it's labor day. i'm anna kooiman in for elisabeth hasselbeck. they are jihaddists gone wild. unreal. islamic militants throwing a pool party after taking over a united states compound in libya. is this another example of a foreign policy failure? ed henry weighs in straight ahead. and there he goes again. alec baldwin flying into a fit of rage. what in the world set him off this time? your e-mails are pouring in. some of hollywood's hottest
stars exposed literally. hackers claim they cracked apple's icloud and leaked celebrity's personal photos. is your data vulnerable, too? you better believe it. mornings are better with friends. >> you're watching "fox & friends." that's a great way to begin your day. >> yes, it is. we are all fill-ins this morning. >> that's right. i am so happy to have a job on labor day. >> yes. >> i'm happy i have a job. it's about labor day and being able to work. >> we're working hard this morning. >> that's what it was initially about in the 1800s. i think it's more about the unofficial end of summer. unfortunately, we've got sunshine on the way for the rest of the country. >> summer is still here. >> that's right. let's hit the beach. >> this morning we have the pleasure of bringing in ed henry from washington, d.c. to talk about the hot topics this morning. great to be with you. thank you for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> what did you make of this wild pool party that jihaddists threw at a united states
compound that they overtook? this looks more like something from spring break from colleges and high schools. >> it certainly does. i don't want to make too much of it and make too much light of it because you're right. this is pretty goofy, but meanwhile, this is a very serious security situation on the ground throughout libya and frankly throughout the middle east as well right now with jihaddists running wild. not just going wild. this is a very tense time right now all around the world. what fascinated me was the reaction from the american government and the libyan government as well. the american government, state department basically said, look, we think things are still pretty secure. everyone kind of calmed down. doesn't look that secure. thankfully this doesn't look like they were smashing things or that anyone was harmed. remember, our u.s. personnel had been taken out by president obama several weeks ago fearful of a desperate security situation like benghazi, number one. number two, libyan government said everybody calm down. these guys that are there, these jihadis are helping to protect
the compound. so these are the guys -- i'm not sure they're supposed to reassure us. these are the guys who are supposed to be protecting things. meanwhile, they're sort of running wild. it's a very bizarre situation on the ground in libya right now. >> also bizarre, the statement you alluded to from the state department, this is exactly what it says. at this point, we believe the embassy compound itself remains secure, but we continue to monitor the situation on the ground which remains very fluid. it certainly doesn't look very secure there. some said this group of terrorists isn't as barbaric as isis. is there such a thing as a moderate terrorist? what has to be. setting alarm bells off at the white house right now is the fact that beyond the republican criticism the president has been getting for appearing to be slow in reacting to isis is you have a top democrat, diane feinstein, senior member of the intelligence committee there, the actual chair of the committee, saying on "meet the press" yesterday that she thinks the president has been too cautious, saying in general the context is he's had a very
cautious foreign policy. she thinks sometimes that can be good instead of just jumping into things. but in this case, she said, she's concerned that the president's got to get going with this strategy that he referred to at the news conference last week that he doesn't have yet. >> exactly. speaking of strategy, there is a strategy coming out of the u.k. and today the british prime minister is laying out his counterterrorism plan. so is president obama's no plan strategy a signal to the rest of the world, especially isis and our enemies, that the white house has kind of withdrawn from the war on terror? >> reporter: certainly our key ally in david cameron is not doing president obama any favors by doing this very specific speech today that's coming up in just a couple of hours, laying out what his plan is. and on friday, having this news conference where he appeared to be very on top of the situation, talking not just about this specific situation with isis, but saying more broadly, radical islam is a problem and the brits are not going to sit back and wait. for that to happen 24 hours after the president's news
conference here in washington where he said he didn't have a strategy yet to deal with isis militarily inside syria was an awful contrast for the president. think about it, i'm heading to europe tomorrow because the president is going to estonia and then to wales where he'll see david cameron at the nato summit. they were supposed to be talking mostly about afghanistan, but you can bet now russia and ukraine as well as isis and spreading throughout the middle east will be a big issue at the summit and david cameron has shown a contrast to the president. >> it looks like the white house is still reeling from the president saying we don't have a strategy to defeat these guys. let's listen to what mike rogers, republican, had to say on the sunday show about that. >> we're spending a lot of time talking about things that we won't do. that's the problem. the president wants to tell you what he won't do and having a hard time putting a coalition together to tell them what they will do. you're not going to humanitarian aid isis out of iraq and syria. it's going to take more than that. there have been plans on the table. the president just did not want to get engaged in any way.
that is a decision. that is a policy. that is a strategy and it's not working. >> ed, the president was at a fund-raiser the other day and he was saying, you know with a? if you watch the nightly news, you think everything is falling apart. and he said the world has always been messy, but now you hear about it more because of things like facebook and twitter. that's world class spin right there. what are you reading to that that? >> remember who his audience was, it was hard core democratic donors. these are his fans who were at the fund-raiser in new york and rhode island of the he's probably hearing from them what in the world is going on? he's trying to calm them down because they've got these big midterms coming up. he needs to raise his campaign cash despite these crises because he's got to hold on to control of the senate. that's very much up for grabs now. it's interesting spin to say look, the world has always been messy, but the president told these donors behind closed doors, it's because of social
media we're hearing about it more. that seems bizarre. chuck hagel a couple weeks ago said the world is burning, the world is on fire right now. and that isis, this is like nothing we've ever seen. worse than al-qaeda pre9-11. it's odd for the president, he seems a little out of step with some of his own cabinet. >> also out of step, i was reading something like 32 grand or something per grand. >> fundraising is one thing which he's doing, but campaigning is another thing and there is a lot of democrats who don't want him going anywhere near their campaigns. with the mid terms right around the corner, are there more problems for president obama with the democrats? these battle ground states issues have kind of made a no fly zone for president obama. >> yeah. i think that's a phrase that's in politico this morning, that some of these states, i think this has always been expected to be a problem for the president. these key senate races that will decide control of not just the senate, but control the president's agenda for his final two years are in battle ground states where the president just
frankly is not very popular. the south is one of the worst areas for him. it's the area that he couldn't win in 2008, 2012. so for those senate battle grounds to be in states where he's not very popular is difficult for him and you're probably going to see a lot of these democrats saying thanks but no thanks, mr. president. we've known that for a while. >> i want to talk to you, is the relationship between the pentagon and the white house as icy as it seems? we've seen a totally different tone from the two. >> i'm glad you raised that because one of the things that didn't get as much attention at that news conference last thursday, i was sitting in the front row, the president beyond the no strategy comment also said look, the reason why we don't have this strategy to deal with isis in syria now is we're still waiting on the pentagon. josh earnest repeated that on friday in his daily briefing. i've talked to some senior military analysts and folks at the pentagon who say they've had plans for a long time. they're waiting for the president to make his decision. and they're not necessarily criticizing him. they're saying he's got to
deliberate. he's got to go through this. but to suggest they don't have plans yet is not entirely accurate. so again, it does seem like if you look at some of the public statements by his own defense secretary, as well as general martin dempsey, who a couple weeks ago said you can't defeat isis. he said this publicly. it's not any secret. at a news conference, he said to defeat isis, you have to go in to syria. so for the president then a couple weeks later at a news conference saying we still don't have a plan to deal with isis in syria is a serious disconnect. >> from the tone of general dempsey and also from chuck hagel, it seems like military action was about to happen. >> they seemed to be hipting at it. i think that was the other things that got lost in the president's news conference because of that statement about news strategy is what he wanted to do was put some brakes frankly maybe on his own national security team and say -- they keep saying the media is pushing us towards war. no. his own national security team, general dempsey and others, were
suggesting we were pretty close to it. >> ed, thank you very much. ed will be on "special report" tonight. we will be watching. >> thanks. now some headlines. >> thank you. labor day weekend plans end in horror when two teen-agers plunge 30 feet from a carnival ride. this happened at a church bazaar in el paso, texas. both of the teen-agers were hurt. one of them critically. a third person had to be rescued from the ride. fire crews believe it malfunctioned. witnesses say at least one of those people who fell was not wearing a seatbelt. five people are dead after their small plane crashes into a field north of denver, barely missing nearby houses. witnesses say that they heard the low flying plane sputtering just moments before it crashed. no word yet on what went wrong. a bittersweet return to racing for tony stewart. fans were thrilled to see him three weeks after that dirt track tragedy in new york.
a standing ovation for number 14, but the race was cut short. he was forced out after slamming into the wall. damaging the suspension and a tire. in virginia, it's a must win for him if he wants to participate in the chase for the sprint cup. alec baldwin caught on camera flying into a fit of rage in the hamptons. he went after a photographer who was snapping some pictures of his wife and baby. witnesses say that baldwin grabbed the guy's shirt, grabbed him and tried to put him in a head lock. you can see the cop trying to calm him down. the photographer decided not to press charges. this is not the first time baldwin has had a violent temper tantrum. last year he got in the face of that fox reporter and she was trying to interview his wife. he was screaming, calling her all sorts of names. those are your headlines. what a gentleman that guy
is. >> it gives us something to talk about. >> that's right. all the things we covered today, everybody is e-mailing us about alec baldwin. we have one from dolly in south carolina, i'm still waiting on alec baldwin to pack up and leave america as he stated he would do when george w. bush was elected. that's right. listen, if you're a man of your word, let's go. let's buy a ticket. >> here is what's coming up on "fox & friends." what is making hundreds of americans turn on their families and their country to fight for terrorists? we'll ask a muslim leader here in america whose own nephew went radical next. this woman accused of killing her own daughter, but she still gets the child's trust fund even if she's convicted? how does that work? ♪ ♪
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remember them? two high school buddies turned terrorists. they both left america to fight for isis and they both died for their cause. and they're not alone. more than two dozen young men from minnesota have followed the
same path. thanks in part to videos like this. >> you guys only knew how much fun we have over here. this is a real disneyland. >> that recruitment pitch came from a minnesota man killed in 2009. it's just one of many videos that peaceful muslims in minnesota are trying to stop. among them, somali community leader who joins me now from minneapolis. so minnesota, specifically minneapolis, is a recruiting ground for isis and they're targeting this community because there is a lot of young, impressionable muslims. what propaganda techniques does isis use to recruit these kids? >> well, they take advantage of the conditions of the young people. a lot of people argue the internet and videos and social media. i think that's partially true. but that's not the fact. the fact is that there are
recruiters on the ground that embrace these young and engage young men and women for years before they elevate them to videos and social media. >> you're an expert in trying to combat this. what techniques do you use to try to counteract this propaganda and then in the same token, non-muslims in america, what should we be doing, 'cause we're the first line of defense. what should we be doing to try to counteract this radicalization here at home as well? >> i think what we need to do, which is very effective, is that we need to engage young people into protective and positive activities. for example, if you look at all the young people who were radicalized and brainwashed were young people who are not -- most of them -- were not engaged in any activities or after school
programming, or leadership programming or anything. so we need to -- the recruiters and leaders are here. they are in every other community. not only in minnesota. we need to compete with them for the hearts and minds of the young people, from poverty into employment, into skills training, into programs that guide them and mentor them into positive way of life. >> all right. thank you very much. you're in a very unique position to help combat this home grown radicalism. we really appreciate what you're doing. thank you very much on this labor day. >> thank you for having me. coming up, a brand-new drug claiming to cut heart disease death by nearly 20%. is this too good to be true? we're break down the facts next. and caught on camera, illegal immigrants storming a california beach in broad daylight. eyewitness who took these pictures sharing the shocking
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5.1 million people in the united states suffer with heart failure at 24 million people world wide live with the condition. but experts are saying a new drug could change all that. >> dorks say the drug from pharmaceutical company nevartis is the biggest potential advance against heart failure in more than a decade and studies show it lowers the chance of death and hospitalization. >> what does it mean for the medical community and is it right for you if you have symptoms of heart failure? joining us is a physician at nyu medical center. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> because this could potentially be on the market by next year even, how does it work? >> first let's do a little background. heart failure is a very, very common situation in for americans. the heart muscle is not pumping as effectively as it should. there are different classes, different degrees of severity and yes, you can still live if
your heart is not pumping as adequately as it should. >> this is you live with chronic heart disease. >> right. reasons for people having chronic heart failure could be previous myocardial infarction, where the heart is not pumping as well. over the last few decades, there have been different medicines designed to enhance or improve the heart's pumping capabilities. what's interesting about this drug and why we're so excited about it, why is it so ground break is that there hasn't been a new f.d.a. approved treatment for heart failure in almost a decade. and what makes this so amazing, this study was an incredibly well designed study. that's very, very important to think about in terms of what are we doing? are we having a large enough patient population and sample population? what this drug has shown to do is to decrease cardiovascular death, decreased the hospitalizations for heart
failure and decrease all cause mortality. what i like is that we're taking what they understand about the physiology of heart failure and what's happening to the heart and they've specifically designed a drug to target those things. >> i also read that people who might be doing with this, it also makes their lives better. they don't have the symptoms in the same way. >> exactly. if you think about statistically, if we're doing this study to see how well it's performing and one thing that's interesting about this drug is that the study actually met all of the primary end points. it's also clinically meaninger for patients. are they more comfortable? able to walk further without shortness of breath and the answer is yes. so not only are they potentially living longer, but the time that they are alive is much more comfortable for them. >> sometimes when new drugs come out, people think whether it's lowering their cholesterol or blood pressure, that means their lifestyle doesn't have to change. is this drug going to be a magic bullet? >> look, the number, while statistically significant, the primary end point is what
percentage of patients died and the number was 20%. so it's not a cure for heart failure. it's basically going to improve the quality of life and improve long-term morbidity. >> this drug doesn't have a name yet. but when can people expect that this would be out in the market here in the u.s.? >> it's now being fast tracked for approval by the end of the year in this country. what that means is that it's going to enable the f.d.a. to sort of not necessarily bypass loophole, but get this approved more quickly for people who are clearly in need for it. again, the study is robust. >> the start of the coming year, doctors could talk to patients about it? >> yes. >> coming up, remember this kid catching heat from his neighbor for running a lemonade stand. the ironic trouble that that neighbor now finds himself in this morning. and a massive attack exposing pictures.
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♪ ♪ >> wow! how have you been spending your labor day holiday weekend? you've been tweeting and e-mailing all morning long. this comes from marie. >> she writes, my daughter and i went to ocean park, manila. the highlight of the day was feeding the penguins inside their nice cold arctic adventure exhibit. >> and john tweets, are we there yet? weekend trip to monroe, louisiana with rescue dogs camp.
>> sherry tweets, happy birthday. the weekend to my little one. >> and gregory tweets, labor day weekend, south plat river just outside of denver. that looks good. >> and linda tweets, labor day morning in asheville, north carolina. lot of carolina lovers. >> absolutely. here is major dan rooney at the folds of honor golf day supporting the families of our wound and fallen heros with pga legend jack nicklaus. >> i'm not going to lie, it looks like everybody is having a good weekend. >> yeah. >> i'm going to take a nap after this. >> so we told you last week about this cute little kid, t.j. guerrero, i believe, from florida, trying to sell lemonade like so many kids do. he's got this crotchety old neighbor trying to shut him down. take a listen from last week.
>> this lemonade stand is a very good business and that everybody else is supporting the lemonade stand. so i think he should, too. >> he says it's very loud and some of the people that come there use profanity. >> it does kind of make me upset the fact that he is kind of lying because nobody does that. but everybody else has supported me so much so that just brings me right back up. >> yeah. so he says that illegal businesses cause excesstive traffic in the neighborhood, illegal parking from too much noise and the large amounts of trash. first of all, if this kid is getting more traffic coming to the neighborhood for his lemonade stand, good for him. he's doing something right. >> he wants to be an entrepreneur. this guy, 61-year-old neighbor, is now being investigated himself for running a business out of his home without proper permitting and licensing. apparently some sort of financial business that he hasn't legally registered. >> this little hypocrite. it doesn't surprise me.
everybody is a hypocrite these days. there is a war on kids going on right now. you can't even go outside and sell lemonade. you can't have a pick sale in school. you can't even go like this, bam, bam in school or you'll get suspended. can't play tag, can't play cowboys and indians. football is too dangerous. we can't do anything anymore. >> what's so great about a kid with a lemonade stand is a kid saying i want to work. i want to support myself. i want to pay for my own something. i had a paper route since i was ten years ole making our own money. >> he said he wanted to pay his own cell phone bill. and wanted to buy his mom dinner. now that he's been making not just headlines here on "fox & friends," but international headline, even in europe, he's been getting an in flux of customers and made all kinds of cash and now making donations himself to things like the humane society. what a good kid. >> something tells me that the other guy is going to lose a little business. we asked you what you thought and someone on facebook said, it's pretty sad when a lemonade stand is a focus of adults. >> all right. and facebook from april, isn't
this almost always the case? the person break the laws is the one trying to divert attention of the supervisor, government. >> rhonda says, you know the old saying, what goes around comes around? it's true. you go, kid. >> that's right. karma got him. >> ainsley earhart, you're here with more headlines. >> got some other news to tell you about this morning. thank you so much. the family of joan rivers praying for a miracle this morning as doctors try to wake the 81-year-old from a medically induced coma. her daughter, melissa, releasing this statement saying, quote, thank you for your continued love and support. we are keeping our fingers crossed. sources telling the new york daily news the family's considering a lawsuit now after rivers stopped breathing during a procedure on her vocal cords at a new york city clinic. doctors are concerned the lack of oxygen to the brain could leave her if a vegetative state. a massive hack attack hitting hollywood. nude photos of more than 100
celebrities, including those two beauty, jennifer lawrence and kate upton, just leaked on line. the hacker was able to get the photos through a reported glitch in apple's icloud service. so how can you protect your phone from getting hacked? earlier on "fox & friends," kurt the cyber guy shared these tips. >> go with a stronger password. it doesn't matter if you're using icloud or another cloud service, you're going to have stuff up there that you want protected. a stronger password will help you. lock your device. if they don't althoughly lock, they need to lock. >> he also recommends if you have any important financial information, store it locally at home of the not on the icloud. the images are shocking. a mystery boat and group of about 20 illegal aliens storming that san diego beach in broad daylight. earlier the eyewitness who shot that footage shared the outrageous details. >> they didn't kind of walk,
some of them. like they were confident that it was okay what they were doing. >> at least seven of the illegals she saw were apprehended while the rest got away. by the next day, however, all 20 of them were u.s. border patrol -- in u.s. border patrol custody. he is known for owning trendsy restaurants around our country and appearing on iron chef usa. but now todd english arrested for driving drunk on long island. the 54-year-old celebrity chef getting pulled over around 3:30 in the morning. later in court posting a $1,500 bail. those are your headlines. back to you guys. >> thanks. so there is extreme weather out there. brand-new video into "fox & friends." the aftermath of a tornado that last night tore through worcester, massachusetts. 85 mile-an-hour winds tossing trees into cars and people's homes and this happening in the dark, which always makes
tornadoes much more scary. maria molina certainly knows all about that. you're tracking these storms for us and through your labor day. >> that's right. that storm happened yesterday between 8:10 and 8:14 p.m. eastern time in massachusetts. that's when that tornado touched down. it stayed on the ground for 1.7 miles. today we do have the risk for more severe storms stretching from parts of kansas up into portions of the great lakes and you are going to be look at that risk for more tornadoes, damaging winds and even large hail from some of the storms. the greatest tornado potential is going to be including portions of southwestern missouri, eastern parts of kansas, and also northeastern parts of the state of oklahoma. so that's going to be a big concern out there, especially during those afternoon and also during those evening hours. we do also have an area in the tropics that we are tracking and that storm system does have about a 60% chance of becoming our next named storm out there. tropical depression or a tropical storm over the next 48 hours as of the 8:00 a.m. update from the national hurricane
center. that's eastern time. the storm still looks relatively disorganized. we're still looking at an area of areas across the yucatan peninsula. hot across parts of the southeast, southern plains, you're looking at highs there, widespread in the 90s. low 90s in atlanta. for your actual high, but then you factor in the humidity. it will feel like 95 in atlanta. 98 in raleigh and 99 in the city of memphis. i'm going to toss it back inside. by the way, rick, i know you know about this, but today is the first day of meteor logical thaw. not astronomical fall. that's not 'til september 22. we'll see the shift in temperatures. it doesn't really feel like we've seen summer. >> until now. finally summer is here. people don't realize the typical conditions for a season don't coincide with the calendar.
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we're a petition to free andrew tahmoreesi from a mexican prison received more than 134,000 signatures and finally it seems to be capturing the attention of the white house. seems like a victory. but will it finally help to fast track his release? jill tahmoreesi, his mother, is with us now. you just spoke with andrew. how is he doing? >> he's holding on. he's a marine, so he's got a lot of courage and valor. >> jill, 134,000 signatures, wasn't it supposed to be 100,000 signatures from the american people and the white house would address the issue? that happened back in may. what do you think took so long? >> i'm not sure, but what i asked for was the white house to urge or to expiate the due process to influence the due process and that hasn't hopped because the judge presiding over the case had to sanction the customs official in mexico for them to even release the border
surveillance tape. just now the 911 tape is in the judge's hands and the border surveillance. i would hardly say that was an expeditious due process. it's been six months. >> you think about what he's been going through and struggling with and then you hear from the white house and their statement just seems very straight to the point and very bland. i want to read it for you. we will continue to monitor the case and work with the mexican authorities as this case proceeds through the mexican judicial system. we continue to urge the mexican authorities to process the case expeditiously. is this enough? >> i would say that it is not been effective because andrew's case is not being expeditiously processed. there is a high serious urgency with this case. so i would expect things to move along. in fact, we don't even have another court date hearing. so i would say that it has not been effective and it needs to be ramped up. >> what's the latest with the
proceedings? is he going to be there for months, do you think? i remember you mentioning a winter coat. >> well, unfortunately, if there isn't even another court date set on the calendar, i can only presume that we could be approaching winter before there is a decision on this case. the presiding judge has two years to make a decision. >> let's remember the story goes back to that 911 call that your son made saying i'm lost. what can i do and they said son, i'm sorry. you're in mexico, we can't help you. he didn't mean to cross the border with those guns that are legal in the united states, illegal there. and he's being held against his will there. it's so unfortunate. if the president is watching this morning, jill, what do you say to him? >> i would say please, president obama, escalate that level of urgency that you say that you are asking mexico to expedite because one more day is one day
too many. >> you've had a long road with this and we do hope that it gets moving. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. 46 minutes after the hour. coming up, the u.s. open honoring veterans in a special way this week. how this wounded warrior made it to be one of the biggest stages -- beyond one of the -- be on one of the biggest stages in pro tennis. that's coming up next (vo) get ready! fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood, real veggies, and never any by-products or fillers. wow! being a cat just got more enjoyabowl. fancy feast broths. wow served daily.
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investigation. is this torture for cats? noah just can't figure out how to catch the evil red dot. turns out his owner put a laser pointer on his head. so every time noah moves, the laser pointer moves. and this video is sure to put a smile on your face. this grandma has all the right moves. see for yourself. ♪ ♪ >> 97 years old. >> we might be being punked on that. all right. from chasing enemies on the battlefield to chasing balls across the court, these wounded warriors are defying the odds, earning their place in the coveted role of ball person in this year's u.s. open. it's all part of the u.s. open's tennis association military initiative. and here to share their stories are retired sergeant first class todd reed, who is also the oldest ball person this year. sorry to give that you
designation. and retired sergeant chris bustamente. this has got to be an incredible honor. >> it is. it's been amazing. >> you've been do this for two weeks. since the open started. >> correct. >> i've got to imagine, first of all, you're 53, so you're the oldest. how does that feel? >> oh, it's wonderful. i'm glad to be out there doing this and to still be active like this and hopefully it inspires others to get out and do more. >> yeah. you were injured in desert storm. >> yes. >> how does this rank up there in some of the exciting things that you've had happen to you? >> it's right there at the top. it's definitely been a lot of fun. >> you guys are both tennis fans is that right? >> yes. >> so you've been out there now. what has been the most exciting part of being out there at the open and the single most exciting experience or person you've been able to work their game, their match? >> for me, actually watching the players kind of pick themselves up when they're down. i have seen a lot of players getting a straighted with mistakes they're making. but they walk off to the side
and sometimes you just think that they're trying to get it together. but they're actually talking and they're like come on, come on. you can do better than this. let's get back in the game. or you'll hear people in the audience be like, come on, rooting them on of the for me, i love watching them kind of self-motivate and then they jump right back into it and before you know t they're really back in the game again. >> here i thought you were going to say maria sharapova or something like this, and he pulls out something that tennis and sports teaches us, how much your mind plays an important part in that. talk to me about that. over your experience after your accident and losing your leg, what is the mind and how do you control that and how do you motivate? >> i think after my accident, losing my foot, the biggest thing is i wanted to get back in shape and get back into sports. that was a huge motivator for me at the time. and i've always been a huge softball fan. so to get back on the ball field was something that really pushed me. >> yeah. and chris, tell me about that.
what message do you have -- we have so many people who have returned from these wars who have physical and emotional issues that they're fighting right now. what kind of a message do you have to them from this experience for you? >> basically despite your injury or your disability, you have it within you to actually overcome and push forward and accomplish. so it's never too late to get back in the game, no matter what it is. >> that's so great. todd, tell me, of all of the players out there, there is a loft tennis fans, the most attended sporting convenient in our country. this happening right now. of all of the players out there, what is their reaction to you guys as you're out there? >> i would say probably -- my best experience with that was with victoria azarenka, i worked a matching a. after the match, she did an interview in the center of the court and then came directly over to the corner where we were standing and shook my hand and just basically said she wanted to tell me how much of a trooper i was and shook my hand, which i
thought that was great. >> that is incredible. that's incredible. guys, thank you so much for your service and enjoy this honor. how many more days do you think you'll be out there? >> i'm going to try to finish 'til the 8th. and on that note, i'd like to thank the program for having us. it's a real honor to be here. >> certainly it is an honor for you to be here. >> and it's great that they have military appreciation day and invited several wounded warriors to attend and watch the matches. >> awesome. thank you very much for your service and for being here with us this morningful enjoy your time. >> thank you. stay right here because there is more "fox & friends" coming up. one for the road is next. ♪ ♪
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we got one for the road. >> my last weekend after the napa earthquake, i went to napa and there was a winery who was incredibly gracious to let us go and shoot there at 12:30 in the morning. >> tough job. >> seriously, it was a tough job. i have some pictures from what it looked like after the -- is what it looks like now. we took this from my camera. that's with it looked like after the earthquake knocked all of those barrels of wine over and she sent me this. they sent this to me and they have a new -- it's all clean. >> they said it's good wine. >> all weekend long we celebrated national bacon day on the show. so i had to get some bacon strips. >> george bush making an appearance over the weekend, baylor unveiled a new statue in his likeness. and george w. did the coin toss, very nice, to see him back in
action. >> that's great. he offered last words of encouragement to bryce petty. >> yeah. speaking of football, florida state, that was a close one on saturday night. got it in there. >> after the show show coming up >> chaos continuing in libya. it reached the abandoned up s. embassy in tripoli. that embassy being guarded by that islamic militant group. all of the area near by has been overone. >> the so-called dawn of libya group he telling the associated press that they have been in control of the abandoned post
we are doing our entire living room in stainless steel. >> very good. good morning, everybody. tuesday, october 7th. look at that times square. it's buzzing or still is. with us on set, we have associate professor from columbia school of university, along with willie, joe and me. >> yeah. what's up? >> we need to talk about what we'll wear, before we wear it. this is like -- >> just get it out of the way. >> a holiday party. i've got to change. >> it's still october. what's going on? >> halloween -- >> i don't like this. this is not going to work. this is not going to work. >> i'm sorry. >> can you do -- i'm going to change. hold on. i'll be right back. you read the news. i'll be right back. >> no, please don't change. i like that sweater. it doesn't look like it will walk away. it doesn't look dirty. >> i'm going to get another garanimals going on. >> that's the first time he actually wore a different sweater. all right. well, okay. he's gone. let's do the news, shall we? willie, dorian? i can't believe it. >> i like the holiday look. >> i thought he looked good. you know? just trying to mix it up a little bit. okay. if you believe the latest polling, allison lunder gram
grimes has a real chance at unseating the top republican in the senate. according to a new kentucky bluegrass poll, grimes leads senator mitch mcconnell 46 to 44%. a month ago, mcconnell was up by eight points in the nbc news maris poll. that's not the only race by the way where democrats are showing strength. so we're seeing this in a couple of other key places. north carolina, kay hagen, has a four-point lead on tom tillis. still pretty close, but still leading him. the race in kansas already starting to look out of reach for incumbent pat roberts. he's down by 10% to independent greg orman. in colorado, mark udall has a three-point edge on cory gardiner. that's close to a tossup. gardiner was leading by as much
as eight points. and jeanne shaheen is now leading over scott brown by seven. and in iowa where joannie ernst was leading by six, she is tied with democratic bruce braley. i don't know. you think the president is such a hindrance as sort of the narrative has been, dorian. yet, we are seeing something, potentially happening here. if you believe these polls. >> right, you know, we haven't seen the clintons in action yet, by the way. >> well, we're going to talk about them. good point. >> so that'll make a difference. but this -- it's hard to disentangle is this an anti-incumbency wave or potential wave or is this something that the democrats are doing in terms of their campaign strategy that republicans aren't? >> grimes, that's particularly remarkable. it started to slip away and then you saw mcconnell get some distance.
so she's closed that gap now with a month left to go. as you say, that whole campaign for mitch mcconnell has been about pairing her with president obama. >> yeah. >> now, here she is tied. >> i find that to be extremely interesting to watch. in alaska, mark begich has been losing ground. and tom cotton has a slight edge. and louisiana senator mary landrieu is down by six points to republican bill cassidy. there we're seeing a fight there for senator landrieu's life. the comeback kid though, as you mentioned is looking to help democrats in his home state. former president bill clinton returned to arkansas to headline rallies for democratic senator mark pryor. and gubernatorial campaign mark ross his former driver. he urged them to reject the
republican efforts to make the elections about president obama. >> thank you. you cannot afford to do what their opponents want. they want you to make it a protest vote. all three of these races they're saying you may like these guys, but you know what you have to do. you have to vote against the president. i promise your last shot. it's a pretty good scam, isn't it? i may wander and groan, but i may never be far from home. you're in my heart and you'll always be arkansas, you run deep in me. vote your heart. don't vote for what they tell you you have to be against. vote for what you know you should be for. vote for mark pryor. vote for mike ross. vote for pat hayes. vote for the legacy and you'll be happy a month from now. thank you and god bless you. >> boy, he's something isn't he? willie geist -- >> yes you are. >> could he be any happier? getting to -- >> please don't do the face
scratching. don't do it. >> and how about mitch mcconnell, huh? he's down. >> yes. i mentioned that at the top of the show when you walked away. [ laughter ] >> that was great. >> we were chatting about that. >> i was excited about your reaction and you left. you just left. i'm going to do that. let me try that. >> me too. >> why? i thought we looked good. >> because i didn't want to hear andy williams' holiday song in my ear. we were talking before the show as we were coordinating our sweaters -- >> yeah. >> if you look what's happening with mcconnell and we were out asking what were the polls going to look like after the beheadings? after barack obama went out golfing. after the beheading. specifically. and now we're starting to see, like a big turn around in kentucky. you look in north carolina, big turn around, republicans were sure a month ago this is a wave election. it may still be a wave election. you just don't see the evidence of it out there. in fact, democrats are doing so
much better now than they should be doing. and republicans now are going to lose kansas? >> what do you make of kentucky though? i don't see it as sort of related to isis. do you? i mean, is that what's happening here? >> well, -- >> this is -- >> all democrats were hurt a month ago by barack obama's seeming obliviousness to what was going on with isis and the jv comments and the golfing after. but i think you're starting to see the races go back to sort of their set point. and the set point is, let's just say it, a lot of kentucky people can't relate to mitch mcconnell. they may not agree with grimes on a lot of issues. >> she and other candidates have run a smart campaign, distancing themselves from the president,
right? so as the president -- as the former president bill clinton said in arkansas yesterday -- this is not a vote for barack obama. this is a vote for mark pryor or lundergren grimes. this should have republicans worried for 2016, by the way. because they have a lot more seats to defend in 2016. >> on clinton's comments, they were interesting too. as dorian points out, he said this is two more years of president obama. don't worry, it's only two more years, but these guys are applying for six-year jobs. >> right. >> don't make this about president obama. maybe if you want to read a few things into that, there could be somebody else -- >> he's very, very good. >> if you talked to any republican strategist six months ago, a year ago, listen, a month before the election -- >> to an independent candidate. >> and there won't be a democrat in the race, you're losing north carolina, you're going to -- in some polls you're going to be losing louisiana. arkansas is going to be split
down the middle. i can tell you as a republican we're screwed. >> iowa is tied. >> iowa is tied. by the way, i'm sorry, the democrat out in iowa is a clown. i mean, democrats say quietly that guy is a clown. he's ill-fit for candidacy. he goes to texas trial lawyers, hey, the last thing we want is somebody from iowa -- dumb farm base is what he's saying running committees. >> joannie ernst -- >> against the candidate? >> clearly, iowa voters are thinking something else now. >> i don't know. i think if you look at the trend, it's all decidedly against the republicans right now. there are exceptions but go to scott walker, a guy i like very much. who was, you know, the great hope for a lot of conservatives like myself, he may not even win this year. >> well, he's being investigated
for corruption scandal. >> go a state over to michigan, one tough nerd. you know, the governor of michigan. a year ago, everything looked great. now, he's on the run. this is -- and here's the thing. this is what republicans need to understand. i have been saying -- you have to stand for something. you just can't be against president obama and if the republicans can't win, and reince priebus will say this, if the republicans can't win in 2014 when everything is breaking their way, when they are fighting on -- in red states, then in '16 all the senate fights will be in blue states, plus the presidential race is going to be especially ugly. >> yeah. let me get one other headline in here. officials are confirming the first case of ebola to be contracted outside of west africa. a nurse in spain is in stable condition at a hospital this morning after testing positive
for the deadly virus. officials say she cared for two spanish priests who both died from ebola. meanwhile, the parents of freelance nbc cameraman ashoka mukpo said he's in good spirits after arriving in omaha for treatment. meanwhile, dr. nancy snyderman and her team arrived in the united states last night on a charter flight and were checked by a health official upon arrival. all are feeling well, in good health. they're deemed low risk, but will be staying home and monitoring their temperature for the remainder of the 21-day period recommended by health authorities. and in dallas, the man being treated for the ebola virus remains in critical condition. we have learned thomas eric duncan is being given an experimental drug that was approved by the fda. president obama says his administration is working on increased screening for ebola at airports here in the u.s. and overseas. it comes as a new pew research poll finds nearly 60% of americans have either a great or
fair amount of confidence the government could prevent an ebola outbreak in the united states. but there's a sharp divide among parties. 69% of democrats share that confidence. while 51% of republicans have little or no confidence in the u.s. government in terms of how it could stop an outbreak. i think screening is going to be difficult. i don't know how they'll do it, because it's not just about cutting off flights if they go a step further. flights coming in from all sorts of different countries and flights going back. >> willie, what do you make of the poll, the republicans -- >> they don't trust -- >> it looks like it's about president obama. it's just a blind referendum. it's kind of strange that that -- that became a political question. >> i think it's a lot of things. obamacare, irs. a lot of things that have kind of made us think -- >> i agree. i think democrats feel the same way about government. if you asked them how is george
w. bush handling the outbreak you'd see that flip. this is political. >> it's strange. >> about ebola? >> and i guess -- at the local level versus the federal level especially since president obama's been in office. so that's not unusual. it's just the broad trends. but it is strange around ebola. it's not an explicitly political question. >> and the bigger question of whether people are losing faith in institutions we talked about for some time. anyway, we have a big show today. did you see chris matthews is dropping by to say hello? >> i can't wait. i can't wait. you two be nice now. all right. still ahead this hour, why you may look like a member of the courts militia if you stop at h&m -- if you shop at h&m. have you ever shopped there? >> i was there yesterday for the sweater. >> the kids love it. i can't believe you changed in the middle of the show. and plus an update, the bubble man. he is safe on land.
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holy cow. >> like a cashew? >> okay. >> wow. first time i heard that expression. >> well, so we have -- we're reading stories from local -- >> no, time to look at the morning papers that you care about. "the los angeles times," pope francis has called a meeting of 200 cardinals and bishops in rome to consider controversial issues for the church. including divorce, contraception and sexuality. no topic is off limits and the holy father has encouraged attendees to speak openly and freely. they'll discuss the survey of catholics worldwide which many feel that the church is out of touch with their needs. "new york times" t waldorf astoria hotel will be sold to a
chinese insurance company -- >> of course it will. >> for nearly $2 billion. one of the highest prices paid in a hotel sale. the landmark hotel which has hosted social gatherings will undergo a big renovation. the company plans to return the 47-story building to the original art deco style. h&m has come under fire for a khaki jumpsuit which many say resembles the uniforms worn by the female kurdish militia. >> i think it's fetching. >> what the heck is this story? so far reaction -- >> would you wear that? i kind of like that, mika. >> i don't think i could pull it off. >> but if you could, would you wear that? >> sure. >> the one on the right, with the gun and the hat. >> i could do that. the reaction has been mixed with some saying it celebrates the
females who are currently fighting the islamic state in syria, but others say it is insensitive. what? h&m spokesman -- i know the designer was not thinking kurdish militia. come on. move it on. i'm not reading it, it's stupid. that's stupid. anyone who would argue with that has no life. >> and i read the delaware news journal every morning. >> then you already read this story. the police have arrested the mother of a 4-year-old after the kid showed up to her day care with a backpack full of heroin. >> what? >> not good. >> the little girl was caught handing -- oh, my gosh. handing out packages of drugs. >> no! >> to her classmates, thinking it was candy. the mother has been charged with endangering the health -- >> what? >> heroin? >> what do you send them to
school with? >> coke. diet coke. he loves it. he gets him buzzing around. >> mm-hmm. little jack. don't say that. not right. >> just joking. just joking. >> the telegraph -- stop it, willie. this is important. >> i don't know what that means. >> michael bloomberg was given an honorary knighthood by the queen of england. the british embassy said he was granted the honor due to his entrepreneurial and philanthropic endeavors. don't call him sir mike. bloomberg will not use the word sir because he's not a british citizen. >> thank you for clarifying that, mika. >> okay. go to new orleans. >> a collision between a train and a big rig has left two rail workers injured. thank think no one was injured. a truck was stuck on the track and here it comes. >> oh, no, not good.
>> the train cut the trailer in half. the driver of the truck escaped unharmed. >> i with wish we could show that in slow motion. >> the train's conductor and engineer suffered minor injuries. residents have been evacuated due to concerns over a gas spill. >> my goodness. incredible. all right. >> coming up next, voters are still hungry for gun laws despite it getting little to no interest on the campaign trail. and joe biden defended by the editorial board that's standing up for the vice president ahead. don't go away. we may have another outfit change. >> no, no fashion changes. nothing. we'll be right back. stop! [ hoof beats ]
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>> who is joe biden? >> who is joe biden? i have no idea. >> do you know who our vice president is? >> um, no. i don't. >> do you want to take a guess? >> condoleezza rice? >> you're right. first female black vice president. >> i don't know. the guy joe biden, he is a republican and he's going to be president soon? i'm assuming. >> he's coming in to town today. >> he is. >> he's like an assistant president or something, i don't -- >> that's right. he's the assistant president. >> assistant president. [ cheers and applause ] >> i -- >> that's just not funny, actually. >> yeah. i watched the first two, funny. but when it kept going? >> that is just tremendous. whoa! >> scary. >> okay. so let's do the must reads.
we have a bunch to get to here. "the wall street journal," joe biden's apology tour. and this is what the paper says. mocking joe biden is a national sport, but today we come to defend him. the vice president spent the weekend apologizing to middle eastern strongman for his comments about syria, but he's apologizing to the wrong people for the wrong reason. they did arm extremists in syria. if mr. biden is feeling contrite he ought to apologize to the syrian and the american people. for three years the obama administration sat on its hands in syria as the moderate army was marginalized on the battlefield, isis and others moved in. >> dorian, what's your take, is that true? >> this is the 111th apology tour he's gone on. that's his trademark, speaking honestly in a field that it's
hard to do that. >> sure. >> in terms of the actual apology, i don't think he needs to do that. but the editorial is interesting because there's an issue to be raising, what's our relationship with the previous ally in terms of the rebel forces in syria? >> and why? i understand he has to be diplomatic, but why apologize to turkey? turkey should be apologizing to us. turkey, if they continue to act this way should be kicked out of nato. turkey should be called out for what they are. >> well, when is the president in turkey going to apologize to the united states for having isis on his doorstep? and he's quite close to having to call nato 911 to rescue the turkish border. >> that's right. >> all right, let me get two more on this while we're on it. this is -- i'll go to "the wall street journal" again actually because senators john mccain and lindsey graham penned a piece.
remove assad. how can we arm and train 5,000 syrians and expect them to succeed against islamic state without protecting them and their families? from the assad's air strikes and bombs or expect moderate groups to take advantage of u.s. air strikes if we do not coordinate or communicate our operations with them? this is reportedly not happening. instead, mr. assad is exploiting u.s. air strikes to kill the very people we want as our partners. this is not just a recipe for failure. it is immoral. >> willie, okay, how do we do it? how do we invade syria and take out assad? how do we -- how do we do that? >> well, we have swung in a year from saying we wanted to get rid of assad to now kind of supporting people who are helping assad. we are fighting the people he's fighting inside the country. >> what void is created? >> i don't think people are talking about this, how is the
assad regime responding to what? we have gone into his air space and launched military strikes in here. what's his reaction, is there any coordination, what's going on between us and him? >> so we have this -- >> right now, it's -- >> right. >> he's like, go ahead. again, for lindsey and senator mccain, i would ask, we go in, let's say we take him out. what does syria look like in a decade? i'd like them to answer the question. i'm sure maybe one of them will. like to answer the question. would the middle east be safer today with saddam hussein in power or out of power? at what point do we start judging characters in the middle east by one very simple question. do they want to kill people in the united states of america or do they want to be left alone in their open countries? it's that simple. saddam hussein did not have
plans to blow up america. >> no. >> al qaeda did. isis does. >> saddam was never coming here. >> yeah, i know there's talk about a possible, you know, possible assassination attempt against 41. you can ask the same question though about -- as horrible of a human being as he is, does assad want to blow up buildings in washington and new york? i mean, and if he doesn't, who is going to replace him? possibili possibly -- these are questions that we don't answer before firing. >> i want to read part of "the new york times" editorial on ebola because it points to one of the reasons why it's so complicated to just sort of deny access and sort of siphon off an area of the world. they write in part this, top health officials are strongly opposed with good reason to take the more extreme step of banning
all travel to the united states from guinea, liberia and sierra leone where the epidemic is concentrated as several prominent republicans like louisiana's governor bobby jindal have recommended. that could actually hamper the battle to contain the epidemic abroad. the first line of defense against the disease in part by leaving americans who are risking their lives to contain the epidemic stranded in africa, with no way to return home. if volunteer workers can't return home, they may elect not to go in the first place. that's weakening the fight against the epidemic. >> that's a silly argument. >> i don't think it is. >> that's a silly argument. >> you do not want to it to explode there. >> that's silly. >> why? >> because you go, do you have an american passport? thank you. this is a false choice. to say, well, we can't ban people coming from west africa. that aren't aid workers here. i'm not recommending we do it. i am saying we need to ask the question.
and that -- this is -- this is why there's not a real discussion on this, because dorian this is a false choice to say somehow we aren't advanced enough to see who has an american passport and we allow them to come back, versus somebody like the gentleman that came back to dallas? >> all right. but i'm going to defend that editorial, joe, because the premise is that the -- there's an incentive. there's a signal that i would send to potential people that would go over. your plan sounds just fine to me. yes, maybe we could carve it out so that only american aid workers could get back in. but to a lot of people they just hear we're banning all people coming from west africa. that creates an incentive for people not to want to do good and go over and help. >> i think the aid workers, all the aid agencies, would be sending people over there, mike, would again, they would know if they were able to come back. >> but there's a larger issue
here and it gets into what we were talking about earlier. it gets into turkey and syria and saudi arabia and qatar. it's us. the world needs -- looks to us, to the united states for everything. where are the other countries? every country in the world can be affected by the ebola virus. >> that's true. >> you can carry it -- ships. you can -- it can leave by sea. it can leave by air. now, if you're in liberia and you have even a scintilla of evidence that you or a member of your family have the ebola virus, where are you going to go? you're not going to want to stay in liberia. >> you'll want to go to the united states. >> you'll want to come to the united states of america. so the larger universe depends on us for so many things that we should start using our influence and say to other countries, come on, come on. >> and the international response has been so slow and so -- >> yes. >> just -- >> the world health organization it has been absolutely scandalous. i just -- this op-ed you're talking about, in "the new york
times" i'm not saying put a wall up and don't let anybody come over from west africa. i just want a better argument. that's not a strong argument at all. you can allow aid workers to go over and to come back. and i just -- i want to know what's the argument for having people from liberia and the other affected countries not coming to the united states. unless they pass a really rigorous screening process. because again -- >> working on new -- >> if i had a child that had ebola i would figure out how to get to the united states. >> i would lie on every form. >> uptick screening process. what are we going to have at airports? you can't have the tsa people like two or three tsa people instead of one tsa person. you need nurses and doctors at the airports. >> the real problem, you have to have them camp out for 21 days. >> right. >> so even the screening process seems to be a nonstarter in many
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fulfilling the promise of equality. >> that was virginia's attorney general praising yesterday's decision by the supreme court. the justices declined to rule on challenges to lower court decisions that overturn same-sex marriage bans in indiana, oklahoma, utah, virginia and wisconsin. marriage equality now exists in 24 states, plus the district of columbia. and the supreme court's decision will soon bring the marriage equality to 30. still, the supreme court did not settle the issue for the country as a whole. so joining us now, executive director of the national center for lesbian rights, kate kendall. good to have you on board with us this morning. >> great to be here. >> so kate, i take it you agree with the virginia attorney general that this was a great day for proponents of same-sex marriage? >> oh, it's a sweeping day. it's a ground breaking moment. i think it's a moment last year with the windsor decision and the striking down of the defense of marriage act, we hit an
undeniable tipping point. i think yesterday is the undeniable no going back point. it's really extraordinary. >> well, isn't there -- wouldn't it have been extraordinary if the supreme court actually decided to take the cases and rule on them? there's still ambiguity out there, right? >> we have to pick up the other 15 states, no doubt about that. i will say that the court's decision to deny review in all five cases and to now have the three circuit court rulings stand and to have marriage now immediately in another 11 states was not something any of us anticipated. but the momentum that that signals -- i think what the court is essentially indicating by declining review is that it is confirming that these circuit courts are getting it right. i think that's huge. >> but you said what you think, you're guessing which allows in another -- again, i'm not knocking you.
obviously if i were in your position and i took your position, i would be excited about it. everybody is saying this is a glorious day, but even your morning, you're saying i think what the court is saying, but this still allows another what, 25 states to ban same-sex marriage, right? >> well, it has 15 -- there will be 15 states that will not be states that recognize the right of same-sex couples to marry or perform those marriages itself. but you have to agree that this is a sweeping momentum shift and we had momentum before and now it's momentum like turbo charged. and i can't imagine a situation -- i think this is a clear signal to the remaining circuit courts that the -- where the court is on the ultimate question. because they're not going to have a ruling like this that they know will be so sweeping and then take it away. they're in our corner, they're ready to rule then we that moment comes. but they're happy to let this
play out. >> joe, i want to show you the response from republican governors, but governor pence,ly always believe in the importance of traditional marriage and abide by the rule of law. under our system of government, people are free to disagree with the court decisions but not to disobey them. governor walker says for us, it's over in wisconsin. the federal courts have ruled that this -- that this decision by this court of appeals decision is the law of the land and we will be upholding it. >> well, again, it was -- again for proponents of same-sex marriage yesterday was a great day. but it's not a slam dunk, kate, obviously until the supreme court rules at least five justices on the united states supreme court rule that you are a -- a state is violating the equal protection clause if they ban gay marriage. >> well, no, that's a really important point.
and we are one country. it is an untenable situation that we will have couples who will be married in wisconsin and if they -- if their car rolls across the state line, their relationship will not be recognized. that is obscene. so that -- that has to change. >> let me ask you, why do you think -- what's your gut on why the justices were afraid -- and they were. the justices did not want to touch this case. what's your gut? just your politics aside and your beliefs aside, as a legal analyst, why did the court shy away from ruling on this case? >> well, i think there are a couple -- i mean, i can't read the tea leaves any better than anyone else, but i think there are two reasons. one, they decided two really important cases for the lgbt community just last term. the windsor ruling and the
ruling on prop 8. and the second thing, this is like really from my first year in law school, there's no split in the circuits. every circuit -- fourth, seventh, tenth, all ruled in favor of marriage equality. i think if you go back to the classic reasons why a court would take a case for review, they want to settle a question among which there is disagreement. you know, ginsburg signalled this in a law school speech she gave a few weeks ago. it was the first time she laid out this possible scenario. i have to say a lot of my law school professor friends pretty much said to me, kate, that's how it's going to be. i actually think in some ways this is brilliant because what it will signal, as more people live with the reality of same-sex couples getting married in their communities and their marriage is still fine, the community is fine and they're celebrating love and they're seeing the relationships strong and nurtured by the government, people love it. it's fine. >> kate, thank you.
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it began as an act of defiance, a way to turn a tragedy into a symbol of hope. 26 playgrounds have been built to honor the 26 victims of the sandy hook elementary school shooting. each one uniquely celebrates the children or teachers who lost their lives. brian williams brings us that story from the site of the 26th and final play ground. >> reporter: on a startlingly beautiful october day, happy children swarmed all over the brand new playground in connecticut, dedicated to the principal who died trying to protect her students at sandy hook elementary school two years ago now. after the ceremony and the flyover and the honor guard, there was raw emotion. a reading from a book that dawn loved to read to the children. it was led by one of her daughters.
the young children don't understand why this playground was built, but their faces remind us what it's meant for. >> it is amazing. she would be so, so happy. >> reporter: all 26 of the memorial sandy hook playgrounds are now happy places. they're all scattered around the new york area in towns that also suffered damage from hurricane sandy. and at each one, the family members pitched in. >> put my hands in the cement. >> reporter: what is your favorite job to watch and favorite job to do yourself? >> my favorite is probably the sidewalk. and my favorite job to watch is probably the panels that they put on the -- >> reporter: okay. for the other families who lost someone at sandy hook, this project has held so much meaning. >> we became a family with all the firefighters. >> our little daniel loved to go to the playground.
it's a beautiful tribute. >> today, the angels are looking down at us. wow, this is the final one. it's beautiful. >> reporter: the group behind this is a foundation called where angels play and they plan to keep doing this across the country in places where there's been tragedy. like boston, aurora, colorado, and moore, oklahoma. bill lavin is the founder of this whole concept. he's a retired new jersey firefighter who told me on the job site last week it doesn't get more personal for him. if you close your eyes can you see all 26, do they have a special meaning to you? >> every single one has a miracle that's happened. think of the moms and dads who have inspired this group here. who will work from dawn to dusk. then thank me for allowing them to do all of that. you know? they'll thank us. but quite frankly this is our blessing and privilege. >> what a beautiful idea. >> really is a beautiful, beautiful idea.
hard to believe, but this december it will be two years since sandy hook. and mike, tell you what, i just can't -- i can't, other than 911 i just can't think of a day that has shattered the peace of this country more than that day. and there's a lot of talk after about gun control. there are a lot of battles. nothing has been done on any front. the issue i talked about the most, the background checks. i went back and checked -- checked to see. because there are a lot of things like -- people talk about assault weapons bans and even mike bloomberg said that won't save lives down the ground. but the background checks, a new quinnipiac poll shows that -- i say new this year, still overwhelmingly support background checks. even gun owners. even gun owners.
even gun owners. >> yeah. >> support background checks. 92% to 6%. not gun control. background checks to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally deranged. out of the hands of terrorists. out of the hands of convicts. and congress does nothing. nothing, nothing. >> you mentioned september 11th. after september 11th, this country came out of that epic tragedy with a sense of purpose. with a sense of unity. now, it became misguided. we invaded iraq. after what happened in connecticut two years ago this december, it raises the question, who are we? i will forever be amazed that there was no sense of purpose, no specific sense of outrage
directed at our institutions, the congress, various state legislatures, ourselves as to why we can't do minimal steps to remove weaponry from the hands of the deranged. >> the cowards in congress ran and hid despite the fact that in some states 94, 95% of the people in their states supported background checks, expansive background checks, like ronald reagan supported background checks, like george w. bush supported background checks. like 92% of gun owners support background checks and they were afraid of the 4%. by the way, if -- forget gun control, forget ale the things that diane feinstein wants. if you take care of that, and you realize that the gun
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a pair of newscasters up in boston came back from commercial and something was a little off. just watch. >> good morning, everybody. thanks for joining us this morning on the october 4th. >> look at that guy's coffee mug again. just hold it -- the only way you can save that, mugs are they safer held upside down? a new report finds the answer. >> oh, my goodness. that's so funny. see, if we did that, all of the vodka would fall out. you have to keep it upright, joe. welcome back to "morning joe." joining us from washington, i've got a copy of tip and the gipper. did you get yours? >> a paper back. >> the host of "hardball", chris matthews.
his book. "tip and the gipper, when politics worked." now out in paper back. more than ever before, we need this book. >> chris, we'll talk to you about this book in a little bit. we want to get through some news first. but we'll talk -- looking through the lens of a story we just talked about about background checks. 92% of the people supporting it, but congress -- >> we'll do that. >> let's go through the polls first. >> if you believe, chris, the latest polling, alison lundergan grimes has a chance of unseating the top republican in the senate. according to a new kentucky bluegrass poll, grimes leads senator mcconnell 46 to 44% that's within the four-point margin of error. a month ago, mcconnell was up by eight points in the nbc news/maris poll. what do you think is going on there? >> well, i think that's a robo poll. so i'm not sure that's not an
outlier. we have to watch the pattern, i think it's an outlier. >> not the only race that democrats are showing strength. kay hagen was a four-point lead over tom tillis. the race in kansas is starting to look out of reach for incumbent pat roberts, he's done by ten to greg orman, an independent. >> we'll save this tape until wednesday after the elections. let's make our predictions a month out. in the republicans win the senate i think they have a good chance to do it. it will be the following route they'll take. they'll win south dakota, montana, west virginia for sure. the next states will be alaska, arkansas and louisiana. they'll then have to win iowa which i think they'll win because they have make up for the loss to the independent orman. again, south dakota, montana, west virginia, alaska, arkansas, louisiana, and iowa. if they want to pick up a little bit of a benefit or a premium, they'll win in north carolina. but i don't think they will. or in colorado or new hampshire or michigan.
>> chris -- >> just a minute, joe. just a minute. >> no no, it's my show. i'm going to ask you a question. >> no. >> you always do this and you act like you never ask follow-up questions and you come on my show and you're shocked and stunned that somebody stopped you and asked you a question. to the follow-up question, what's happening in north carolina? >> i think she's going to win it. >> why? >> really? >> she's a really good candidate. >> why though? i'm just curious. this is a state that obviously it's sort of a purple state right now. >> yes. >> she was supposed to be weak. look at the south, mary landrieu is keeping it close. arkansas is closer than it should be. north carolina is closer than it should be. it seems like the solid south for republicans isn't so solid anymore. >> yeah, well, i made my prediction for what i think going to happen. the net six pickup they'll squeak in. but it's a month out, of course. i think north carolina is interesting because tillis has to play defense as well as
offense. i know the state is moving to the right. certainly -- and i know that, i don't like it, but it's happening. but i think she's been running consistently well. this is going on for months now. a consistent performance ahead of tillis. i think she's capable of -- a winner again this time. >> i wonder if in north carolina you had republicans take over in 2010, they went further right than a lot of people in north carolina were ready for them to go. you have the state senator who's actually paying for that on the campaign trail now. >> yeah, well i have a sentimental thing, we're bringing the whole team down to follow around that race and i'm getting -- i'm bragging now. the north carolina hall of fame i'm getting down there. so i love the place down there. >> of course you do. congratulations. you sound like my dad right now. >> i love it. >> let's go to some other races. >> well, you mentioned colorado, mark udall has a three-point edge over cory gardner. >> yeah.
i think he'll win. >> last month cory gardner was leading. jean shne shaheen was tied with scott brown and now is leading. and now joni ernst is now tied -- >> maike barnicle i want to ask you, remember we heard in new hampshire, the day after president obama went golfing, right after the isis beheading, you had people up there telling you they saw immediately a drop in polls? >> yeah. >> a month ago we had republicans coming on here saying oh, this is going to be a wave election. we're feeling good about it. we have those elections after the president seemed disengaged on isis. and now in all of the states -- not all, but most, it looks like we're back in the democrats' favor from a tie a month ago in new hampshire to the seven point lead for jeanne shaheen.
i know chris said it's a robo call, but a lot of the twists around turns are going in the democrats' direction. >> you're seeing one consistent pattern, both in north carolina and in new hampshire. shaheen and in north carolina, both have achieved some separation from barack obama. and they have had to. because on the ground in both new hampshire and north carol a carolina, i assume in north carolina it would be the same as new hampshire, they don't want him in there. both candidates do not want the president of the united states in there. jeanne shaheen is a different, unique case. she is of new hampshire. >> she's of new hampshire. let's really quickly, willie, where republicans are ahead in alaska. mark begich has been losing ground. sullivan has a slight edge over pryor in arkansas. you know, that race keeps -- i'll tell you, i thought tom cotton would be six points ahead. but this race is still close.
cbs news/"new york times" poll, louisiana senator landrieu is down by six to republican bill cassidy. much different from a poll a couple of days ago. >> it is. you mentioned that arkansas race, president clinton was in the state yesterday. really feeling up in his home state. looking to help democrats get a win there. the former president returning there. headlining rallies for mark pryor and gubernatorial candidate mike ross who is the former driver by the way. >> that's great. >> he urged them to reject republican efforts to make the elections about president obama. >> you cannot afford to do what their opponents want. they want you to make it a protest vote. all three of these races, they're saying, you may like these guys but hey, you know what you've got to do. you have to vote against the president. i promise you your last shot. it's a pretty good scam isn't it? i may wander, i may groan, but i'll never be far from home.
you're in my heart and you will always be. arkansas, you run deep in me. vote your heart. don't vote for what they tell you you have to be against. vote for what you know you should be for. vote for mark pryor. vote for mike ross. vote for pat hayes. vote for the legacy and you'll be happy a month from now. thank you and god bless you. >> it's like seeing elvis in vegas. it disn't matter -- it doesn't matter what happened before he got there and put the long scarf on, when he belts out like, you know, jailhouse rock. he's still elvis. that is a sight to behold. >> a man on his home turf. singing his favorite songs. >> i may go far -- >> chris matthews, were you moved? >> i hear 2016 calling already. >> it runs deep in you. >> it runs deep. 2016, yeah. >> hey, chris, let's say your
scenario plays out, that you laid out and republicans do squeak out the senate. okay, so they take the house. the senate. what are the last two years of president obama's second term looking like? >> well, it looks like -- go way back in history the republicans when they got the congress in '46 when truman was president, i see a lot of probes, investigations, a lot of that. you know, a lot of darrell isa stuff going on. mainly investigations and again going back to obamacare i don't think it will look good going into 2016. i think the no vote is what they're selling this time. but by 2016, people are looking for a yes candidate. somebody who offers something for the future. so they have to do a hell of a quick turn around from being the no party to the yes party.
i still think hillary has the yes, potentially over them. people want to say yes when they pick a new president. not no. i think. >> now, they do. and mika, things look very different for barack obama if republicans get in versus if the democrats hold. i will tell you this. for republicans it's the same. no matter what. whether they get in or not, if they don't have a forward looking, positive agenda they're doomed in '16. if getting in means stopping barack obama, they're going to lose in '16. the party just fold up the tent and go away. if winning the senate means they're moving forward with a positive, hopeful forward looking agenda, they have actually a shot at '16. when they're in the minority or the majority, it really doesn't matter for the '16 candidate if they're the party of no. as chris said, they are doomed in '16. i'll say it right now. they are doomed in '16 if they don't stop just playing. >> there's still time for
constructive ideas and candidat candidates who are exciting. let's get to the next story, same-sex couples in another five states are now able to be married. the supreme court declined to rule on challenges to lower court decisions that overturned same-sex marriage bans in utah and other states. and joining us now edward whalen, a former law clerk to antonin scalia and served on the senate judiciary committee. great to have you on. >> i'm just wondering, does this go on the pantheon of conservative disappointments when republicans supposedly rule the supreme court? sandra day o'connor, back in the famous missouri decision on abortion and now the roberts court deciding not to move on this issue? >> well, i think it's a
disappointment to all parties concerned, that is there are folks on both sides of the issue who thought it should be decided by the court and it's disappointing that they're letting the lower court ruling stand. that said, this seems to be a consequence of the court's opinion a couple years ago. especially in the united states versus windsor where the court ruled 5-4 that the federal defense of marriage act was unconstitutional. in reasoning that i think most people would find baffling. that act was passed by the overwhelming majorities by both houses of congress, including lots of strong supporters of gay rights. signed in to law by president clinton, but it could be explained only by an intent to injure. so i think with that sort of baffling reasoning, the conservatives on the court which a group that does not include justice kennedy, probably concluded that justice kennedy
was beyond persuasion on this. >> so governor walker said the fight is over when it comes to gay rights. do you agree? >> well, i think the question isn't one of gay rights broadly. the question is one of marriage and -- >> i misspoke. gay marriage. >> what marriage is and who decides what marriage is. obviously, in the state of wisconsin for now, there's been a judicial imposition of same-sex marriage and it's difficult to see what could possibly be done there. >> he's -- >> well, as a practical matter right now, it's difficult to see what can be done. now one could sketch a scenario in which it's not over. i won't claim to be an optimist on this. again, when one looks at where five supreme court justices appear to be there's little cause for short term optimism. >> ed, thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. again, none of the circuits disagree. if the circuits aren't disagreeing, they won't weigh in. >> chris matthews, "tip and the
gipper when politics worked." 92% of gun owners support background support and yet the extremes control so much. the big money on both sides control so much. we get nothing done. >> yeah, the funny thing is that for years, joe, you and i know that the slogan of the nra was guns don't kill people, people do. find out who are the people buying the guns. it's not about the gun, but about the person. so let's make sure that the right people are getting guns if they have to have a gun. and the wrong people don't. i mean, that seems to me consistent with what they have always argued about training and safety and everything else. isn't one of the safety precautions for the gun making sure that crazy people and murderers don't get them? isn't that safety precaution? it is logical and consistent with the way they have always approached at least theoretically gun ownership. >> chris matthews, we'll be watching "hard ball" tonight.
i love it. it's the show i'm watching as i'm winding the day down. >> can i tell one story? >> sure. >> i was on the air -- >> take about ten minutes. >> one second. one second. i was trying to explain my book when i started this push for the paper back the other day. and somebody gets on the phone with me from one of the local stations and says, when did tipper gore and ronald reagan begin their relationship? [ laughter ] >> oh! oh. >> i had no idea, mika, where to go with that. >> wow. >> i gave the bill clinton answer from the debates. i acted as if she had said tip o'neal and ignored what was -- >> that is so funny. don't you love book tours? >> sometimes you have to roll with it. like when pat buchanan had -- >> i had a doozie, remind me to tell you about it. thanks chris. after a rescue at sea, the bubble man is back.
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we'll take a look at the morning papers. "the wall street journal," the joe biden apologyç tour. it comes after making remarks critical about the allies in the middle east. >> he was right, other than confusing -- >> well, he shouldered the blame for the rise of isis and now the vice president is reaching out to officials in saudi arabia to clarify and apologize. he's spoken to leaders from turkey and the united arab emirates. >> shouldn't have done that. >> yesterday, the white house stood by the vice president. >> the vice president is somebody who has enough
character to admit when he's made a mistake. the vice president is somebody who continues to be a core member of the president's national security team. he is somebody who has decades of experience in dealing with leaders around the globe. and the president is pleased to be able to rely on his advice as we confront the variety of challenges that are so critical to american national security. >> and by the way, if you're keeping score at home, the no criticize joe zone still -- >> it applies here on the set of "morning joe." >> yeah. we're not going to criticize joe biden here. from "usa today," floyd mayweather said he's $1.4 million richer after bet on the indianapolis colts. >> hmm. >> the boxer took to instagram to share his ticket, showing he bet on week 3. he bet $373,000. negative 105 odds and the colt won it despite ending with 0-2 record. >> "the miami herald," the
endurance athlete rescued in the inflatable bubble off the coast of florida, this story brought to you by my sister-in-law. may be safe -- >> but he's still stupid. >> but he wants the bubble back. reza baluchi was attempting to run the border of the bermuda triangle in a bubble, it's called a hydropod. his journey was cut short on saturday when he was rescued by the coast guard due to extreme fatigue. his bubble was left in the water and now he wants it back. it cost him 4,500 bucks to build and it still has his green card, passport, wallet and cell phone and shoes inside. there's something so ridiculous about this story. and the guy's dead serious. he wants his bubble back. >> and how much did the coast guard spend on that, rescuing that idiot? >> yeah. maybe they can balance out after he pays them for what they did
for him, he can get his bubble back. >> we go from that story to a serious one. how about some fighting kangaroos. this is posted to reddit, two kangaroos boxing on a residential street in australia. nbc can confirm this is in fact a residential street and that those are in fact kangaroos! >> that looks like you and me after the show. >> well, sometimes during the show. look at that. >> oh, my goodness. is that -- they're raging roos. a good lower third. >> can you believe that? look at that. >> yeah. oh, yeah, you deserve that. all right. i don't know how to do this transmission. >> i'm mesmerized by that. >> can we see that again? >> okay. >> let's put it in the box in the lower left of our screen. as we take to mike allen, we can gaze at the kangaroos kick boxing. >> put it in the loop.
i'm serious. keep this up. >> keep it up and we'll talk to mike. >> we have mike allen, here with the morning playbook. if you know don't like what mike is a saying, look to the left side of your screen. mike, according to politico the midterm race for the campaign viral videos isn't close. we are going to be showing you this viral video throughout this entire segment, but first, let's take a look at what republicans are doing online. >> i'm matt rosen dale, this is how i look from the government drone. and this is what i think about it. >> sometimes when a politician has been in d.c. too long it goes to his head and he can't seem to get the job done. if you have a boehner lasting longer than 23 years seek immediate medical attention. >> i'm joni ernst, when i get to washington i know how to cut pork. >> mom, this is my decision. i see a better future with rick scott. >> sometimes it's hard to let go of old styles, but it all worked out in the end because brittany
said yes to rick scott. >> uh. >> i'm stuck on the first one. >> all right. now, the first one is pretty good. all right. so mike, why have -- i'm sorry, i don't see the kangaroos fighting, there we go. why have the republicans fared so much better than the democrats when it comes to this season? >> well, politico analyzed traffic stats from youtube and facebook and said that the republicans have a much bigger lead in the viral videos. and that's such a change from 2012 when obama and the democrats were so dominant in creating digital comment. the republicans are much better and one of the reasons is they're taking the more gorilla approach. the outsiders trying to take the senate, taking on obama. many of the most clicked ads which were made by the koch network had to do with obamacare.
and democrats say now they're more -- putting their digital resources into fund-raising e-mails. >> is there any evidence that this actually has an impact on supporters? >> i'm so glad you asked that because yes, this can change elections and could change the senate. joe, joni ernst had her stand out in a field of republicans. nobody knew who'd win that primary and now ernst who is looking strong in iowa could be a bluish state that could go red. she could be the majority maker. so in this time when everybody's attention is fractured a viral video can change the senate. >> we're looking at one right now. mike allen, thank you so much. we appreciate it. it's kind of like those old -- >> kick boxing kangaroos.
>> like the old palmolive videos, you're soaking in it. remember madge? >> yeah. bill clinton comes to the defense of mark pryor. but first, relieved to be back in the united states, but the freelance nbc cameraman still has a long way to go for recovery. we'll have kate snow with a special report coming up. and many more kangaroos kick boxing.
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now the very latest on the ebola outbreak and the efforts to keep that virus from spreading. there's a nurse in spain that's the latest to be infected. the first diagnosis outside of west africa. meanwhile, the white house is rejecting calls for a travel ban but says it's working on increased screening at airports here in the u.s. and abroad. and we're learning new information about the nbc freelance photographer who arrived for treatment less than 24 hours ago. kate snow joins us live from home omaha. how is his treatment because they were deciding on what type of medicine to give him.
>> that's right, thomas. last night we learned that he will be given some kind of a experimental medication. his father telling us that his dad happens to be a doctor in his own right and he says they're really lucky that they caught the ebola virus pretty early. ashoka mukpo is waking up in isolation. he was able to walk off the plane from liberia. >> he gave a little wave earlier when he first came in. that was reassuring. >> he and his girlfriend lived together in liberia for two years. helen was due to join him in liberia this past weekend. >> i miss him i really miss him. i was meant to see him, you know, a couple of days ago. and i wish it was under different circumstances. >> his parents say he's scared by ready to fight. >> he said i'll get through this. >> it's a combination of emotions. we have been very afraid, on the
other hand we're very confident. >> the 85-year-old mother of ebola patient thomas eric duncan arrived in dallas monday. she drove 15 hours to be near him. hoping to find a way for him to hear her voice. he is taking an experimental drug. he was given the same dose on saturday, the same day that his condition took the turn for the worse. if duncan infected anyone else, they would likely have symptoms this week. so far, none of the 48 people being watched is sick. >> 100% seen yesterday. 100% of them had no signs of fever. had no signs of illness. 100% were doing well. >> still, authorities worry about the toll this ebola case is taking. >> the stress of this and the fear of this, you know, could be more damaging to this community than the virus itself. >> now, experts say we have the tools in this country to stop any kind of ebola outbreak.
the key tool is finding anyone who's been exposed to the ebola virus and making sure that we monitor those people. that's exactly by the way what's being done with dr. nancy snyderman and her team. the nbc news team returned late last night on a charter flight and we know that they were monitored by health officials when they got here, back to the u.s. we are told they're in good health, showing no symptoms. but just out of an abundance of caution they're quarantined and staying away at home for the next 21 days. >> explain the process that h e have -- that was and the decision process made to take mukpo to the hospital in omaha. >> yeah, it sounds random, but they have a bio containment unit here that has been set up for a number of years. they have been training extensively to handle any kind of infectious disease. by the way, they already treated one patient with ebola. remember, dr. rick sacre, he was treated here. so they have experience.
the doctors were pointing out to me yesterday this is not something that's been in the u.s. much before. so it's very new so they wanted to send him somewhere where they had the expertise. >> all right, kate snow, thanks. appreciate it. coming up next, bill clinton saying arkansas runs deep in him. >> yes, it does. >> when he's not in new york city. >> we'll hear more from the former president turned star in his home state as he fights -- as he fights it falling into republican hands. joe, what do you say to that? >> i want to see kangaroos.
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democrat mark pryor is still hanging on in arkansas, but he's been slipping in the latest polls. he's now down by four to tom cotton. time to bring out the big guns and there's no one bigger in arkansas than bill clinton.
casey hunt is on the trail. >> i love my native state. without you i never would have had a chance to do anything. and i didn't come back to the briar patch, i came back to the future. >> reporter: for bill clinton this is where it all began. >> bill clinton who announced today he wants to be a democratic presidential nominee. >> i'm proud to say here in arkansas we have led the way. >> reporter: now clinton is trying to save what's left of his party in his home state. senator mark pryor, the son of clinton confidant david pryor in danger of losing to tom cotton. >> i didn't come here to talk about my opponent, but let me take this opportunity to do so. you know, he went to harvard. right? i know. he couldn't get into uca, what can i say? >> the president's unpopular in arkansas. they want you to make it a protest vote. all three of the races they're saying you may like the guys,
but hey, you know what you have to do. you have to vote against the president. it's a pretty good scam, isn't it? >> reporter: arkansas had just one republican in congress and now pryor is the last democrat left. >> people like my parents used to vote democratic. but now the obama democrats in washington no longer represent arkansas's conservative values. >> is this still the arkansas you governed? >> oh, i think so. i think we've got a really good chance. i think he's run a great campaign, i think he -- i expect him to win. >> can he win this race for you? >> i have got to win this race on my own. >> reporter: if there's one thing they agree on it, might be bill clinton. >> i think a lot of arkansans look back on the clinton years like the obama years and view them favorably. >> president clinton, can i get a selfie? >> wow. >> with us is -- nobody draws them like bill clinton. certainly not in arkansas.
but this race has been up in the air. i said a couple of hours ago i thought tom cotton to be up by ten points now. but it's a lot closer. what keeps pryor close and what makes democrats think they can still win this race? >> reporter: it's a couple of factors, joe. this is a democratic state for decades. only recently it's finally started to slip away from the southern democrats and at this point, mark pryor still has a ton of goodwill from his father, david pryor, who is very close do former president bill clinton and bill clinton himself has been really engaged here. you know, he noted in his speech, hey, this isn't the only time i have been down here to arkansas. he's been back for three funerals, coming back for his high school reunion. he's still very connected to it. and if there's anybody that can make a difference for mark pryor it's bill clinton. that's what you're soing over -- seeing over the next few days.
>> what did you see down there? >> well, i travelled with tom cotton on saturday. i'm upset with the pryor campaign, he's a wonderful man. i asked what events, and they wouldn't tell me. >> that's weird. >> but aside from that -- >> okay. you have vented. >> aside from that, pryor is a very decent, lovely man. cotton is, you know, -- is moving with the trends down there. i saw him on saturday talking to a gun rally and saying that the right to bear arms was not just a constitutional right, but a god-given right. >> oh, my. >> and -- >> well, you obviously, it's the 11th commandment. >> yeah. >> okay. >> or the 12th maybe. >> so it's a very conservative state, but arkansas still a little different than let's say alabama or mississippi or tennessee.
there's still sort of -- >> yeah. >> more of the yellow dogs still running around in the south. >> one thing i noticed when talking about north carolina a little while ago, i was there as well on my road trip and the thing that -- that's keeping the democrat afloat there is the fact that tillis' legislature cut education funding. and in north carolina, there is a long, moderate tradition, 50 years since terry sanford of boosting education as a way to bring in industry. >> you know, i'll tell you what, for conservatives who are shocked when i say this, i mean, you've got to look at the tea leaves this year. this is in many ways i think a -- an election where the warning flags -- if they haven't gone up for republicans already, they need to go up on issues education and tax cuts. you can cut education to pay for tax cuts, you need to talk to
sam brown back, it's not paying anymore for republican. this tax cuts at all costs mentality, if brownback goes down, this as the center plank for the republican party -- >> i agree with joe scarborough on this one. i think you see two states now, north carolina and kansas are education cuts are paying heavily in the democrats' favor. what's interesting about a arkansas you have obamacare there and i'm curious what casey can tell us about how that -- obviously, medicaid expansion has insured a lot of people. i think arkansas has the steepest drop in the uninsurance rate in the country. casey, did you pick up anything from this? >> yeah, president clinton actually offered a pretty row
best defense of the president's health care law. which was interesting to me. following senator pryor's campaign. it is something they have tried to kind of run on a little bit. they have the one ad sort of praising obamacare and then they backed away from it. i think it illustrates this broader problem that he has in dealing with president obama. president clinton alluded to it, noting that president obama was unpopular in arkansas. and i asked pryor about the ebola crisis yesterday and i think it illustrates the problem he has here in the ad talking cotton. this is what he had to say. >> do you think that the obama administration has done an appropriate job handling the ebola crisis? >> um, i would say that it's hard to know because i haven't heard the latest briefing on
that to know all -- i read the paper and all, but my impression is that we have people over there, both from cdc and other medical type people and even some engineers to try to build, you know, medical facilities. that's what they need over there. they need the medical infrastructure. >> have we been aggressive enough in helping these people? >> um, again, i have to see the latest numbers. >> wow. >> stop it. stop it. stop it! stop it! >> what? >> just stop. >> you're like -- >> throw in the towel, casey, what was going on there? >> nice, gentle question. >> i'm not sure. i thought he would have a yes or no answer. but -- >> could i -- >> what was that, casey? >> she asked a gentle question. she was just being honest and the guy just collapsed. >> you were there, why were the questions so hard for the senator to answer? >> well, you know, like i said,
i was a little surprised that they were so difficult because he had aired this out on ebola late in august. accusing his opponent tom cotton of not doing enough to fight global pandemics. i -- >> you thought that was a softball? >> -- for that ad. >> news of the day question. >> joe klein? >> compare and contrast on saturday i asked cotton about ebola and he immediately said we have to shut down flights from that region because -- and this was the brilliant part, because the terrorists might send people infected with ebola over here. and, you know, when you think of boko haram, i think that deals to the sense of fear in the last three weeks -- >> that was an answer. >> a professional answer even if it was -- >> sam stein, you brought up the
ad that senator pryor had used before on ebola. >> yeah. >> trying to blame tom cotton for it. he was very critical and yet to have him stammer there with casey, pretty stunning. i mean, it's painful to watch. >> yeah. and the answer is pretty self-explanatory from mark pryor's perspective. go back to the facts of the ad. the budget for the centers for disease control has been cut by $600 million from 2010 to 2014. listen, the republican party and the austerity movement has cut cdc funding, but he stammered and couldn't come one the word, it was really awkward. i would say cotton referencing ebola patients and sending them across the border -- >> well, split screen with the kick boxing kangaroos -- >> no, no. let's watch this quickly. >> can you guys play it again? >> how do you say no mas in kangaroo? >> stunning.
>> do you think that the obama administration has done an appropriate job handling the ebola crisis? >> um, i would say that -- it's hard to know because i haven't heard the latest briefing on that to know all the -- i read the paper and all, but my impression is we have people over there, both from cdc and other medical type people and even some engineers to try to build, you know, medical facilities. that's what they need over there. they need the medical infrastructure. >> do you think we've been aggressive enough in -- >> um, again, i have to see the latest numbers. >> oh, my god. casey hunt, you have done it again. >> what is wrong with you? >> she is so mean. >> you're cruel. >> she asks such simple questions. >> it's a trap.
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welcome back to "morning joe." there's outrage in one new jersey town this morning after a high school canceled the rest of the high school football season amid a hazing investigation. seniors on the team intimidated and bullied freshmen, including some acts that could be considered sexual assault. >> this district, in this board of education is making unified stance to say no. no to bullying. >> last night school officials in sayerville, new jersey, announced they will cancel the remainder of the football season. from freshmen to versety squads. the drastic measure less than a week after widespread allegations of hazing by senior team members towards freshmen, including severe bullying and possible sexual assault. >> there were incidents of
harassment and bullying that took base on a pervasive level, a wide scale level, and at a level in which the players knew, tolerated and in general accepted. >> the cancellation comes as schools nationwide are cracking down against bullying. >>. >> i'm not satisfied with the way we handled it from the get-go. >> meanwhile, in sayerville -- >> it's unfair for the kids that didn't have nothing to do with it. >> the community itself is like family. >> you're still proud of this community? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> it's just very devastating. it's very sad for the parents and the players. >> wow. >> no players have been suspended from school as the investigation goes on. there are questions about the role the coaches played. the superintendent said he asked the the assistant principal at the school to look at the sports
team and their protocols. they have a pretty good football program. >> so obviously for those of us -- i started playing football when i was 6. now play it your whole life. a lot of these kids, football has been their life for a decade. they get to senior year and because of the hazing, they're not going to have a senior year. this will impact them for years to come. >> why not just punish the people that were committing the mistakes, instead of the entire team. >> i sympathy in the context of everything going on in with the nfl and everything else, they want to make a big statement. it also includes the cheerleader and the band. all these people have their season completely wiped out. >> yeah, but to me it sounds like that's the leadership the nfl could use. >> they won three state titles in four years, then these seniors who were freshmen, this is behavior they've seen
cultivated over a certain period of time. >> it would have to be widespread, i would think, mike. to cancel the entire season. >> that's a huge crisis. >> for people that understand these kids, over a decade, their entire life, and the parents and the family every friday night. >> yeah. yeah. >> and so i'm just wondering and again, it does start at the top. those coaches should never coach again in jersey. >> if they knew. >> yeah, up next, a great poll showing a surjs of support for democrats across the country. is there any connection to president obama remaining off the campaign trail? plus, the most expensive hotel ever sold. who is buying the waldorf and what they plan to do with it and whatnot to send your kid today
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in most of these jurisdictions now, same-sex marriage will be de facto legal. >> now we're in a situation where 30 states have same-sex marriage. the momentum when you have that many people living in a world
where same-sex marriage is legal makes it inevitable, it seems, that the rest of the country will follow. >> inevitable that the rest of the country will follow. well, i guess that's it. i would like to thank my wife lorain for 25 good years. what can i say? we gave it a ghood shot, honey. i was just about going to get a photo of you. and i was going to announce my new governor appointed life partner, roger and i are registered at restoration hardware. we're doing the entire living room in hammered stainless steel. >> good morning, everybody. it's tuesday, october 7th. look at that times square. it's already buzzing. or still is. with us onset, we have msnbc contributor, associate professor at columbia university school of international and public affairs
along with willie, joe and me. >> yeah. what's up? we need to talk about what we're going to wear before we wear it. >> just get it out of the way here. >> it's ha holiday party. >> it's still october. what's going on? >> i don't know. i don't like this. >> this is just not going to work. >> i'm sorry. i'm going to change. i'll be right back. you read the news. i'll be right back. >> don't change. i like that sweater. it doesn't look like it's going to walk away. >> i'm going to get another. read the news, mika. i'm sure there's a lot to talk about. >> it's the first time he actually wore a different -- all right. okay. well, he's gone. let's do the news, shall we? >> i can't believe it. >> i like the holiday look. >> i thought it looked good, you know. just trying to make it up a little built. if you believe the latest polling, can you guys believe this? has a very real chance at
unseating the top republican in the senate. this didn't look like it could happen until now. according to a new kentucky bluegrass poll, grimes leads mcconnell 46 to 44%. that's within the four-point margin of error. a month ago mcconnell was up by eight points. it's not the only race, by the way, where the democrats are showing strength. we're seeing this in a couple of other key places. north carolina, kay hagan has a four-point lead. but she's leading. the race in kansas, already starting to look out of reach for incumbent pat roberts. he's down by 10% to independent greg orman. in colorado, mark udall has a three-point edge of corey garner. that's close to a toss-up. he was leading by eight points at one point.
last month jeanne shaheen. and in iowa where two weeks ago joni ernst was leading by six, she's now tied with democrat bruce braley. i don't know. you think that the president is such a hint rans as the narrative has been, dorian. and yet we're seeing something possiblily happening here if you believe the polls. >> and we haven't seen the clintons in action by the way. >> we're going to talk about that. >> that mr. make a difference. it's hard to figure out, is this an anti-incumbency wave, or is this something the democrats are doing in terms of campaign strategy that republicans are not? it remains to be scene. >> particularly remarkable. grimes looked like she was starting to slip away. she had done so well for several month ls. you saw mcconnell getting some distance. so she closed the gap now with a
month left to go. and as you say, that whole campaign has been about pairing her with president obama, and now here she is tied. >> i find that to be extremely interesting to watch. in alaska, mark begich has been losing ground to sullivan. tom cotton has a slight edge on pryor in arkansas. and the cbs news "new york times" poll has louisiana senator mary landrieu down by six points to really bill kasz di. so there we're seeing a fight for senator mary landrieu. the comeback kid, as you mentioned, is looking to help democrats in his hometown state. former president bill clinton returned to arkansas to headline rallies for mark pryor. clinton urged votered to reject republican efforts to make the elections about president obama. >> you cannot afford to do what
their opponents want. they want you to make this a protest vote. all three races. they're saying you may like these guys, but you got to vote against the president. it's your last shot. it's a good scam, isn't it? i may wander and roam, but i will never be far from home. you're in my heart, and you will always be, arkansas, you run deep in me. vote your heart. don't tell you for what they tell you you have to be against. vote for what you know you should be for. vote for mark pryor. vote for mike ross. vote for pat hayes. and you will be happy a mon from now. thank you and god bless you. >> boy, he's really something, isn't he? >> yes, you are. >> i love that guy. >> could he be any happier? >> please don't do this. just don't do it. stop. >> and what about mitch
mcconnell, huh? he's down. >> yes, i mentioned that at the top of the show when you walked away. i was excited about your reaction. but you just left. i'm going to do that. i'm going to try that. why? i thought we looked good. >> i didn't want to hear andy williams holiday song. we were coordinating our sweaters before the show, it's a showing. if you look what's happening with mitch mcconnell. we were all asking, what were the polls going to look like? the first wave of polls after the beheadings. after barack obama went out golfing after the beheading specifically. and now we're starting to see a big turnaround in kentucky. you look at north carolina. big turnaround. republicans were sure ap month ago this is going to be a wave election. it may still be. you just don't see any evidence
of it out there. democrats are doing so much better now than they should be doing. and republicans are now going to lose kansas. >> what do you make of kentucky? i don't see it as related to isis. do you? is that what is happening here? >> all democrats were hurt a month ago by barack obama's seeming obliviousness to what was going on with isis. and the jv comments and golfing after the beheading. but i think you're starting to see these races go back to their set point. and the set point is a lot of kentucky people can't relate to mitch mcconnell. they may not agree with grimes in a lot of issues, but they just can't relate to mitch mcconnell. >> and she and other candidates have run smart campaigns distancing themselves from the president.
as the former president bill clinton said in arkansas, this is not a vote for barack obama. this is a vote for mark pryor or london grimes or other particular candidates. this should have republicans worried for 2016. they have a lot more seats to defend in 2016. >> i'm sorry. i was just going to say clinton's comments were interesting, too. he said this is just two more years of president obama. he's almost saying don't worry. it's only two more years. but these guys are aplaying for six-h year jobs. so don't make this about president obama. >> oh, my gosh. >> he's very, very good. >> if you talk to any republican strategist six months ago, a year ago and said a month before the election you're going to be losing kwst by ten. to an independent candidate. and you're going to be losing north carolina. in some polls you're going to be
losing louisiana. arkansas is going to be split down the middle. i can tell you as republicans we're screwed. >> iowa is tied right now. >> and the democrat out in iowa is a clown. i mean, democrats say quietly, that guy is a clown. he's ill fit for kansas. he goes to texas and say, the last thing we want is somebody from iowa, a dumb ass iowa farmer is basically what he's saying. >> well -- >> although i would say, joni ernst commercials -- >> the the castration candidates. >> i those were brilliant before. clearly iowa voters are thinking something else now. >> i don't know. i think if you look at the trend, it's all against the republicans right now. there are exceptions. scott walker, a guy i like very much. a great hope for a lot of conservatives like myself. he may not win this year. >> he's being investigated for
corruption scandal. >> go a state over to michigan. one tough nerd. the governor of michigan. a year ago everything looked great. now he's on the run. and here's the thing, this is what republicans need to understand. you got to stand for something. you can't just be against barack obama. and the problem is. if the republicans can't win. and priebus will say this. if the republicans can't win in 2014 when everything is breaking their way. when they were fighting in red states, then in 16 all the senate fights are going to be on blue states, plus the presidential race. r is going to be especially ugly. >> yeah. let me get one other headline in here. officials are now confirming the first case of ebola to be contracted outside of west africa. a nurse in spain is in stable condition at a hospital this morning after testing positive for the deadly virus.
officials say she cares for two spanish priests who boelt died from ebola. the parents of ashoka mukpo said he's in good spirits after arriving in omaha for treatment. dr. nancy sneiderman and her team arrived in the united states and were checked by a health pishl upon ail rival. all are feeling well, in good health. they're deemed low risk but will are be be staying home and monitoring their temperature for the remainder of the 21-day period. and in dallas, the man being treated for the ebola virus remains in critical condition. we've learned thomas eric duncan is being given an experimental drug approved by the fda. president obama says his administration is working on increased screening for ebola. it comes as a new research poll finds nearly 60% of americans have a great or fair amount of
confidence the government could prooent an ebola outbreak in the u.s. but there's a sharp divide among parties. 69% of democrats share the confidence. 51% of republicans have little or no krz in the u.s. government in terms of how it could stop an outbreak. i think screening will be difficult. i don't know how they're going to do it. the it's not just about cutting off flights. >> willie, what do you make of the poll we just talked about? is this -- >> it looks like it's about president obama. it looks like just a blind referendum. it's strange that became a political question. >> i think it's a lot of things. obamacare, irs. a lot of things that made us think, do you guys do anything? >> i think democrats feel the same way. how is george w. bush handling the outbreak, yould see the numbers flip.
this becomes split call. zblf it's strange, isn't it? >> and the government at the local level versus the federal level. especially since president obama has been in office. that's not unusual, the broad trends. but it is strange around ebola. >> coming up on "morning joe." as the white house plans new airline screening procedures to minimize the threat of ebola, we'll look at how one key american city is handling the the crisis. plus, michael bloomberg gets knighted by the queen. but don't call him sir just yet. speaking of sir, he always wants us to call him that. he always wants him to call us -- what is that? can we say it on the air? >> yeah, he loves that. it's better than what you could have gone with, i guess. good morning, everyone. including joe and mika. blood moon. have you heard the term? we're going to have one later tonight. all it means is we get these lunar eclipses with pretty much
the full moon. we get the refraction of the light off the earth. because of the dust and the dirt. it looks ret oud there during the eclipse. this is going to happen tomorrow morning very early. if you're on the east coast, a lot of clouds. but around 5:15 to 8:15. the best viewing will be the west coast around 3:30 to 4:30 in the morning. the next one will happen in april. we get four of these in two years. that doesn't usually happen. e back to weather. i mentioned the clouds blocking the view of the lunar eclipse in the east. a large amount of clouds and rain to the east. heaviest rains are in h northern new england. a a batch over north carolina. and pretty good amount of showers and thunderstorms between memphis and cape gerardo on the mississippi river. that could clip the memphis area shortly. and in nashville, we have rain for you. and new york city, southern new
england, and coastal jersey a line of strong storms will go there. gusty winds could bring down trees and maybe an isolated tornado. very weird scenario for you. if you're west of the mississippi, you're looking rather nice today. the exception being arizona. we leave you with a shot. can you believe this? the rink is back. they're making the ice. getting ready for the holiday season. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.
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be sold to. it opened 83 years also. it will also undergo a big renovation. the wlean says they plan to return the building to the arjal art deco clothing style. >> h&m has come under fire for a khaki jumpsuit which many say resembles the uniforms worn by female members of the kurdish militia. >> i like khaki on women is this story? kbl would you wear that? i kind of like it. >> if you could, would you wear that? >> sure. >> oh, the one on the right, with the gun and the hat. >> well. reaction has been mixed with some saying it celebrates the
females fighting the islamic state in syria. others say it's insensitive. what? i just know the designer was not thinking kurdish militia. >> what's the next story? >> come on. moving on. that's stupid. anybody arguing that has no life. >> just about anything. i read the delaware news journal every morning. >> then you already have read this story. but i'll say it again. the delaware news journal. police have arrested the mother of a 4-year-old after the kid showed up to her day care with a backpack full of heroin. the little girl was caught handing out packets of the drugs to her classmates thinking they were candy. the mother has been charged with drug possession and endangering the welfare of her child. >> what in the world? >> it's heroin? >> i never ever send jack to school with heroin. with packets of heroin. >> what do you send him to
school with? >> coke. diet coke! he loves it. buzzing around you know. you. >> little jack. don't say that. >> okay. okay. gl the telegraph. no, stop it, willie. >> like a cashew. >> i don't know what that means. >> former new york city major michael bloomberg was give an an honorary knighthood by the queen of england. he was granted due to his entrepreneurial endeavors. but don't call him sir mike. bloomberg will not use the name sir because he's not a british citizen. >> thank you for clarifying that, mika. >> okay. >> and the new orleans times, a collision between a train and a big rig has left two rail workers injured. thankfully nobody killed. he began recording when he realized the truck hauling a crane was stuck on the tracks. moments later, here it comes.
oh. that's not good. the train comes through cutting the trailer in half. the driver escaped unharmed. >> i wish we could show that in slow motion. >> they suffered minor injuries. residents in the area have been evacuated due to concerns over a gas spill. >> my goodness. >> up next, the eyes of the nation continue to be on dallas where the first ebola patient to be diagnosed in the u.s. is in critical condition. the mayor of dallas. >> and we have a power house economic round table coming up this morning. >> yes, we do. powerful. >> money dudes, willie. wall street is riding high while middle america is struggling to find its footing. what's it like being an sbrerp neurotoday? much more "morning joe" straight ahead. ♪
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28 past the hour. the terror threat of isis is now at the doorstep of a top american ally in the middle east. the front page of the wall street journal shows islamic state militants planting their flag near syria's border with turkey. it follows fierce battles between kurdish and isis
fighters. it now appears they're poised to take control. meanwhile, an american teenager has been arrested after trying to board a connecting flight to turkey with the intent of sneaking into syria and fighting with isis. the 19-year-old left a handwritten three-page letter to his parents begging them not to alert the authorities, while saying, quote, we are all witness that the western societies are getting more immoral day by day. >> syria, obviously, still under siege by isis, and now turkey who sat back and done nothing. now they are having isis knock at their o doorstep. this is going to be a real wakeup call to our alliance with turkey and our relationship with turkey. isis is now on the turkish border. turkey is a member of nato. if the president and the turks need help, they have to go
through nato to get help. we'll see what happens there. it's a disgrace. it's just a disgrace. >> yeah. they are not a strong ally. we don't have a lot of strong allies. >> in other news this morning, the first person diagnoseded with the ebola virus in the united states remains in critical condition. thomas eric duncan is being treated with an experimental drug in dallas. it comes as texas republican governor rick perry is forming a 17-person task force to focus on the current ebola outbreak, and how the state responds to other infectious diseases. and president obama says his administration is now working on increased screening for ebola at airports here in the u.s. and overseas, but he is resisting calls to impose any travel restrictions. joining us now from dallas, the city's mayor, mike rawlings.
good to have you on the show. >> great to be here. i watch you all the time, so it's fun for me. >> thank you. that's great. >> tell us, mr. mayor. you've been talking about this quite some time about what happened. but tell us how the hospitals across dallas and across texas have changed since the mistake. >> well, i'll tell you, everybody was trained in august. we had this incident, which is a agreement hospital. my daughter was born there. i had a close friend that had a baby there this weekend. everybody has been retrained, doubled up, and they know everybody is overanalyzing the situation now. that's okay to make sure the hospitals don't miss anybody. and we've got all individuals that had contact with the patient, we're checking them twice a day.
and hopefully we'll find any symptoms before they get there. >> let me tell you about the the fear factor in dallas and the country. there's la lot of information out there about isis. how is that impacting or affecting the citizens of dallas? >> i assume you're talking about ebola, not isis. >> ebola, yeah. isis is scary, too. >> yeah, i was thinking about turkey. >> that's all right. i think we're calm. we're sitting on pins and needles. but we had an all-time hoping of our state fair over the last week. and 92,000 people showed up to the cowboys game. i went to a big oktoberfest. people are out and about. this is a great time to be in dallas. the weather is good.
i don't see any pulling back on that. folks are going to school. but we're serious. this is a very tough issue. but i think it's only the mean people creating some of this -- some of this fear. >> let's talk about the incubation period. this is the critical week, as you pointed out, where people who came in contact with thomas eric duncan could show any type of symptom ls. no one was showing any signs. but we had ten people who had contact with duncan who are considered high risk. so explain exactly what the monitoring process is for those ten people. well, basically each -- we've got a couple of dozen people tracking, around 48 people and we visit with them every day.
they look at the temperature. they ask how they're feeling. they look at them from a health standpoint and give them a little checkup. and so every morning i'll get a report. we have one today at noon. so it's turning over a big blackjack card when i get the report to make sure they're healthy. >> mayor mike rawlings, thank you for being on the show. thank you for watching. >> thank you, mr. mayor, we'll have to drop by in dallas next. >> please do. >> we're you're in new york, come on the show. >> i would love to. >> still ahead, barack obama says the economy is stronger than it ever has been during his presidency. we're going to fact check that with our powerhouse economic round table straight ahead. plus, why one of our panelists says crazy is a compliment. >> i'm with him.
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start building your confident retirement today. all right, here with us now for our business roundtable, cnbc's brian sullivan. it's good to see you. >> oh, stop being sarcastic. >> even if your enthusiasm is fake, it is appreciated. >> ceo and managing partner of q ball. i can't wait. >> least going to do my nails. apparently he's going to do a lot of nail ls. we're going to get that later. i'm not one of those people. oh, it's bad. it's bad. >> who has time? >> the author of crazy is a compliment, the problem with zigging while everyone else zags. >> i love that. >> you just complimented joe.
>> any time people come with an idea and say it's crazy -- >> exactly, if they're not calling you crazy, you're not thinking big enough. >> i'm reading the new google book. he said things move so quickly. if you're not being called crazy every week or month, tyou're going to be left behind. >> we can do nothing and hope our jobs are safe, or we can take risks. the riskier strategy is to do nothing. the reason i wrote crazy is a compliment is to bottle up my experience working with a thousand entrepreneurs to help people who have a dream but are feeling scared or stuck and create a road map for helping them go guard. >> so brian, we have, in the united states of america, a congress and a political structure that is just the
opposite of crazy in the good way. we're not doing anything to move this economy forward. >> no, we're not. >> and we'll have the pleasure of all kinds of great people, successful people. they have nothing in common, except for one thing. they all have this amazing ability to take risks and believe in yourself. congress is all about consensus. either it's red state or blue state. somebody is going to have to zag. >> and they're scared of their own shadow. >> yes, they are. >> that comes because we have a rough time in the economy. wanes haven't moved. jobs were very hard to come by. we're getting a little bit of a change in the overall economy. >> we got about a quarter million net jobs created. a lot of those didn't go where
we needed them. they didn't go to women. they didn't go to younger people. i think one of the things we're proud of. they have nearly 200 employees today. >> did you just use starbuck as a verb? >> he did, didn't he? you're starbucking a nail salon. >> trying to transform something mundane. the 65,000 nail salons in this country. $8 billion reported. it's probably closer to $14 billion. we need professional standards. >> right now it seems like a lot of people are intrigued. that's amongst the highest in the last decade. it's not going to things more mundane. the service economy. the service economy. the independent workers.
>> and what i think i love is it's not just technology where entrepreneurship is thriving. most people starting businesses are women and baby boomers over 55. we just don't hear their stories. and your point, entrepreneurship is not just entrepreneurs anymore. we haul need the skills of change making. >> and what you're talking about cannot be outsourced. you cannot amazon -- can i use that has a a verb? you cannot amazon nail care. you need people. and we hear from both parties. that's not true. new businesses are job creators. and so, yesterday i talked to a neighbor. and asked how is paul simon?ç but it's a guy that has a business. he's a small business owner.
mom and pop shop. runs it out of his house. and i ask him what i always ask with restaurants and businesses in the town. >> they all say the same thing? this month was good. last month was bad. the month before was so-so. the month before was terrible. the month before was agreement. i'm hearing this from all small business owners. they can't make plans because it's um and down. we have a schizophrenic consumer. >> and your neighbor will continue to say that until we have real wage gains. >> if it goels down. >> this is the next election. >> one of the issues around there is we're so focused on the demand side and not supply side. and what we need to do is focus
on them. be focused with the authentic crazy person was self care. only then can you get the predictability of revenue. the problem is trying to focus on the profit and performance. you need to start with product. >> so linda, how do you describe the the schizophrenic economy? you have unemployment below 6%. and that's because people have given up looking for jobs. and chaos favors the entrepreneur. but entrepreneurs are not about the farm. we imagine them going all in. entrepreneurs are risk minimizeers. so three facts i point out in crazy is a compliment. number one, you don't have to go all in. 50 pk 50% of the fastest growing companies start with under $5,000. the best innovators keep their
day jobs while they're starting their ideas. the founder of nike did taxes for ten years. you need to balance between taking risks and doing risk. deal with chaos. >> people are scarred, right? they're scared, too. i'm not going to leave my job where i feel secure after what just happened to start a company. >> that's why sho many are 20-year-olds. if they fail, they're okay. if you're 40 with a couple of kids and a mortgage, you're not starting a business. i've known tony two years now. i can't imagine him being a nail man. thank you so much. tony, greatly appreciate it. >> thank you so much for coming in. and the book is crazy is a
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it began as an act of defiance. a way to turn a tragedy into a symbol of hope. 26 playgrounds have been built to honor the 26 victims of the sandy hook elementary school shooting. each one uniquely celebrates the student or teacher who lost their lives. brian williams brings us that story from the site of 26th and final playground. >> reporter: on a startingly beautiful day, happy children swarmed all over the playground dedicated to the principal who died trying to protect her students at sandy hook elementary schooler inially two years ago now. after, there was raw emotion. a reading from a book that dawn loved to read to the children. it was led by one of her daughters. the young children don't understand why this playground
was built, but their faces remind us what it's meant for. >> it is amazing. all 26 of the memorial sandy hook playgrounds are now happy places. they're all scattered around the new york area in towns that also suffered damage from hurricane sandy. >> put my hands in. >> what is your favorite job to watch and favorite job to do yourself? >> my favorite job to do myself is probably the sidewalk. and my favorite job to watch is probably the panels they put on the playstand. >> reporter: and for the other families who lost someone at sandy hook, this project has held so much meaning. >> we became a family with all the firefighters.
>> our angels are looking down at us. looking wow. the final one. it's beautiful. >> the group blind this is a foundation called where angels play. they plan to coop doing this across the country in places where there's been tragedy. like boston, aurora, colorado, and moore, oklahoma. bill laven is the founder of the whole concept. he's a retired new jersey firefighter who told me on the job site last week it doesn't get more personal for him. >> if you close your eyes, can you see all 26? do they all have a special meaning to you? >> every single one has a miracle that has happened. they will work from dawn to dusk and then thank me for allowing them to do all that. but this is our blessing and privilege. >> this september will be two years since the sandy hook
shooting. two years since a disturbed individual was able to get his hands on three semiautomatic weapons. and nothing has been done in congress. and it's not done on the campaign trail with isis, ebola and stagnant wages in the headlines. it's easy for politicians to ignore it for some reason. polls show americans overwhelmingly support background checks on all gun sales. even gun owners support it by a wide margin. 89 to 9%. >> that's straight forward. you start talking about gun control and the numbers drop quickly. >> i'm not sure why gun control, though. it's just a background check. >> i don't know. george w. bush supported background checks. i don't know. mike? we talked about this before.
endlessly. the institutional indifference and lack of courage. it's so depressing. you look at the numbers as we just ind kalted. when you walk a street and talk to ordinary human beings, it's depressing our political institutions don't react. >> having said that, bill laven, the firefighter who came up with that idea. >> what a great idea. >> what a hopeful, beautiful person to find a way to celebrate as well as remember these people. and that was a great piece. that was really nice. >> it's a wonderful thing to do. >> up next, what if anything did we learn today?
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>> what? it's hot sf. >> oh, frazier is down. frazier is down. >> thomas, did you learn anything today? >> i will happily give up my time for this youtube video. >> mike, did you learn anything today? >> i learned unlike what i first thought -- they're notó[/mm as kangaroos. >> i was worried it wasn't real kangaroos. i learned crazy is a compliment. maybe there's hope for you. mike, what -- i also learned the founder of nike continued to work for a decade until -- while he was setting up his business. so what's on tap today in baseball? >> in disable you have two playoff games. the first game this afternoon. tryinging to old on as
cardinals. you think they may pull it off? >> i do. i think they'll win the series. the matchups favor them. and stick around right now. we have peter alexander with the daily rundown. a new ebola case. the first time a patient gets it outside of africa. his treatment continues for patients in omaha and dallas here in the u.s. and president obama considers more measures to screen travelers. plus a major milestone in the same-sex marriage debate. both the republican and democratic national committees with just four weeks left until election day. meantime on the midterm trail, bill clinton is heading home to arkansas. big debates for key races in
the park. >> one wrote i have no idea how a law could protect them. >> john says the world is no longer a safe place but i doubt a lot that prosecutes parents can be helpful. thanks for watching. "fox & friends" starts now. good morning. it is tuesday, august 26. they told us the irs targeting e-mails were gone. >> there has been a hard drive crash and some may have been lost. >> no e-mails could be retrieved. >> now the big bombshell, those e-mails do exist. it is just too much work for the government to find them. that explains it. >> that does. then this. a flight forced to be diverted mid air because of a battle over leg room. somebody tried to put their seat down and wouldn't go.
we are going to tell you about a new device that led to an epic mid air melt down and why you probably don't want to install it next time you go for a flight. last night's emmy's got pretty steamy. >> previous wins have been for "seinfeld." >> more hot moments for one of hollywood's biggest nights straight ahead. >> because mornings are better are friends. >> hi. you are watching "fox & friends" and you should sit on the curvy couch. >> welcome to the curvy couch. live from new york city on this very busy tuesday. thanks for joining us. >> we are so glad that you are. good morning to you both. hot topic today u.s. military is preparing right now. >> fox news alert.
>> for surveillance flights. drones overseeria to gather intelligence on what is going on. the administration, we are going to take a look at all of the flip-flopping right now. because last thursday we actually heard this is more serious, that this was terror times two. we understood that this could effect the western world in a way that we haven't seen before. all of a sudden the president returns from vacation and yesterday we heard a very different story about isil. >> we were hoping the president would come out with a hard core plan for the way forward. he decides if we attack isis we have to start where the headquarters are in syria. to do that we have to get intelligence on the ground. a little disturbing we don't have any. so he is telling everybody we are going over with drones to take a look at where to hit. among the people upset by this
is the free syrian army. if they are saying you are just going to hit us once in a while and try to contain it you are tickling isis and doing more harm than good. >> you talk about the flip-flops with the administration. to your point it goes back last week when general dempsey was talking apocalyptic terms about how bad isis was. if we are going to get rid of them we have to go over there. then somebody must have gotten to general dempsy because he said it is really just kind of a regional threat. regional? really? >> the president of the united states has described it as a cancer which is funny because back in january when he was talking to the new yorker magazine he referred to that organization that wants to fly the black flag over the white house as the jv team. josh earnest, the president's spokesperson was asked about it
yesterday, that gaff the president made in january. he did his best to try to untangle the president. >> the president was not singling out isil. he was talking about the very different threat that is posed by a range of extremists around the globe. many of them do not have designs on attacking the west or the united states. that is what puts them in stark contrast to the goals and capability of the previously existing al qaeda network led by osama bin laden. >> that is such a load because david remnic asked the president specifically about isis. >> and he did and he talked about that. i remember when george bush said bring it on to what was left of the dead enders and he said i shouldn't have said that. that is wrong. the administration now to pretend as if they didn't call isis the jv while they flew the black flag is wrong. it is a relative insult to people who are paying attention,
which i imagine is you. the president of the united states has to look at this group, this group bringing in $2 million a day in oil revenue alone and in extortion in various points saying how do we contain them. >> in addition to that a state department official concluded 1,000 americans joined the forces such as isil. we had an american beheaded across the world globally on the web and witnessed what their intentions are. when you hear that reference back in january to these groups, isis, as j.v. it is insulting. right now colonel west said it is completely idiotic. >> when i listened to those comments made by josh earnest those were inane, incoherent,
incompetent. what josh earnest is doing and the obama administration is trying to relegate and define isis in a term or ideology that fits in their national security strategy so they don't have to take an action. >> we have found out in the after math in our operation in libya where we led from behind and had no plan afterwards egypt and the the uae have conducted air strikes in libya because extremists have taken over the airport. uae and egypt see this as a threat and conducted air strikes in the region and didn't even tell us. >> you know why they didn't tell us? they can't trust us. that's the problem. >> i get that. here is the thing. do you trust your government? because we have heard that louis
lerner who apologized at the irs they illegally targeted conservative groups and tea party groups. people tried to get her e-mail to make sure there wasn't coordination with the white house. it was revealed her e-mails were destroyed because there was a problem with the hard drive. people came out of the woodwork to explain away the problem. listen to this. >> the actual hard drive after it was determined it was dysfunctional and with experts no e-mails could be retrieved. >> was it physically destroyed? >> that is my understanding? >> because there was a computer crash? 67,000 e-mails provided to congress. 24,000 have come from this period during which her hard drive crashed and in which those e-mails were lost. >> in april determined that, in fact, there had been a hard drive crash and some e-mails may
have been lost our next step was to investigate how many e-mails did we have and could we find. >> so they are very clear there all of her e-mails gone. as it turns out judicial watch which has filed some freedom of information lawsuits against the irs were told by government attorneys on friday there is some backup system that keeps everything. it's in the end of days thing where if you need the continuity of government there is a copy of it somewhere. there is a copy. >> as the law dictates. >> it's just too hard to get so we are not going to try. what? >> everything we have been hearing about scratched hard drives and missing e-mails with lois lerner and other irs officials and other officials in the obama administration has been a pack of malarkey. they can get the records but they don't want to. they haven't told anyone about
it frankly until we were able to get it out of them on friday. >> just to be clear. there were backup tapes but too costly to retrieve and we are not sure if they are there. this is pretty much the same thing. who are we writing the checks to? if we can't retrieve it how much does it cost. is it in a vault? is it a trip? >> what did you know? when did kroun it? let's start from the beginning here and get to the truth on how this all started. >> the administration says there is no new backup system describes to judicial watch. do you believe that? did you see ansly this
morning? >> i was looking for her. >> money must be flowing in her account to do two shows in a row. >> glad to be here. thanks for welcoming me to the show this morning. an update to a missing person's story. 21-year-old luge s rovy has been missing for a week after he failed to show up at college at the university of montana. now a new clue might shed some light. this surveillance footage from a chevron station in garden valley, idaho appears to show his green subaru. he was working at a raft and kayak camp in idaho. his friend and supervisor will join us at 8:15. thousands gathering paying final respects to michael brown. family, friends, celebrities and even strangers among the crowd
there. the reverend al sharpton delivering a wild speech criticizing police and calling for justice. tomorrow the grand jury is set to resume hearing that evidence. as the fbi interviews witnesses as part of a justice department investigation. a united airlines flight heading from newark to denver forced to make a landing in chicago after a fight over leg room. a passenger used a banned knee defender device to stop the woman in front of him from reclining. the knee defender locked her seat into place. they got into a fight. the woman threw her water on the guy. both passengers were kicked off the plane. they were both sitting in economy plus which already allows for four inches of leg room. >> those are banned. don't buy one of those. let the person in front of you decline. >> the knee defender seems
defensive. hundreds of residents in napa, california may be without running water for days following the 6 magnitude earthquake. the destruction may take a week to tally and damages could top a billion dollars. we are joined live from napa. good morning to you, rick. what can you tell us about today? >> good morning, elizabeth. people still working on the cleanup process and also not only small business owners going through inventory but homeowners who saw devastating damage. we have seen images and i believe we have video of the fire that struck one of the mobile home parks during the earthquake or immediately thereafter. yesterday we were able to get footage and see exactly what the area looks like and talk with one of the owners who survived and barely got out in time before her home was engulfed in flames. take a look at what she had to say. >> there was a fire in the house
in the back of me was burning. and then there was a big explosion. and it was really, really burning. they told me half of your place is gone. >> so everybody there having to figure out what to do and get their life back on track now and how to sort through the pieces as well as the small business owners we will be talking with the folks here. we will bring more of that to you in a bit. >> absolutely heartbreaking. live in napa. coming up on this tuesday, the president slams the use of enhanced irrigation. as the isis threat gets worse is it time to use them again? the cia official who ran the program under george w. bush is here live next. and a proposal so big it is catching the attention of police. the couple behind the incredible
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>> before i came into office i was very clear that in the immediate after math of 9/11 we did some things that were wrong. we did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks. we did some things that were contrary to our values. >> that is the president's opinion that we tortured some folks. with enhanced interrogation techniques would it help us now. joining us now a man who defends the use of the techniques, the former head of the cia's clandestine service. your response to the president's characterization of what you did? >> i take tremendous exception to what the president said. it is very disturbing and it is not true.
as i have explained many times all of those techniques were approved by the president, authorized by the president, president bush at the time were certified as legal and were briefed to the congress. so when the president comes out and accuses cia officers of torture it creates tremendous problems for all of us. and we take tremendous exception. >> so would you say -- obviously you did everything right. you did what you were supposed to do and got tremendous intelligence out of it. now, with isis, this organization everyone says is as bad if not worse in al qaeda who beheaded a journalist from being a journalist, would you think some of these techniques would be effective in maximizing intelligence opportunities? >> yes, isis is a dangerous and evil organization that has no
problems beheading american citizens. mark my words, if we don't go after them, they will come after us here at home and try to kill us and terirorize us. we have to go after them. i don't think the enhanced interrogation program should be used against them. the reason why is because in the spring of 2009 president obama decided to release the legal justifications for the use of the techniques. he declassified it and released it to the world. and this document provided the details of the program and also the legal options available to us to undertake the program. so basically we have given away
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we have quick tuesday morning headlines. former fbi director louis frye seriously injured in a car accident in vermont. he required surgery for a broken leg. all eyes on primary races in arizona and florida. in house it is a three way republican race in arizona's second district. a win for retired air force
colonel martha mcsally would set up a rematch against former gabrielle giffords aid martha. the winner faces incumbent rick scott in florida. let's talk. >> good news for tired teens. the american academy of pediatrics urging schools to start no earlier than 8:30 a.m. they say teens need between 8.5 and 9.5 hours of sleep per night and they are not getting it. well rested you look. for teens i think it was from a parent i think that sleep is important but statistically you say could be vital. if teens are not getting enough sleep we know the consequences are real. >> this is actually a very
important study. 8.5 to 9 hours. the new logo is let them sleep. what they found was about 20% of our teenagers are getting that number of sleep. we have a lot of accidents the next day. they are not functioning well both physical and mentally. memories are not functioning well as a result of not enough sleep. most of them are going to bed around 11:00 distracted by computers, ipads, facebooks and twitter. next day they are taking a nap and not doing so well in school. this is a new finding. >> the demand on them is high and the pressure to get into college and many holding down a job, homework, accounts to -- activities to build a resume before a resume. one study found a 70% drop in car crashes involving teens
driving after. when they push the school date back they found kids are safer on the road. that is a huge number. 70%. >> that is a big number. >> it's a huge finding. that is why they are emphasizing this. also as a physician i will tell you that lack of sleep leads to obesity. your cortisone level is all out of sync. risk of heart attack and diabetes. overall this will help us in a big way. there are also behavioral changes. you don't want to workout right before sleep. you don't want to take a lot of caffeine and energy drinks before you go to bed. make sure you go to bed at the same time and wake up the next morning at the same time so you have a system down. make the bedroom comfortable it them. >> phones and things like that should go off? how early before bed? a half hour before you want to go to sleep? >> at least about an hour or so. interesting finding.
>> only 15% of schools right now start later than 8:30 so maybe that number will changed based on this. >> it's a good move. >> good to see you. is this a sign of the times? a new study shows the majority of americans want to make it illegal for children to go to the playground alone? should a walk to the park be a crime? she is not exactly a model citizen. a model accused of shop lifting chocolate. wait until you hear what someone told her. ♪ ♪
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the dentist that i dated. >> she has won five emmy's and had 18 nominations. previous wins have been for "seinfeld." >> he was on "seinfeld." >> they smooched there. >> that wasn't the only hot moment. did you see it? the emmy's did not disappoint. you are stepping in. were there more kisses? >> good morning. it was definitely tv's big night last night. for all the talk about big movie stars being invited and the tv academy nominated streaming services like netflix, they really stuck to their own last night. the academy while they gave them invites to the big party didn't get mvp passes. jim parsons won.
a lot of people were shocked. matthew mcconaughey everybody thought he was a lock for last night. he was a big part of the program, a lot of jokes, a lot of comments headed his way. people were kind of surprised. what an amazing performance with "breaking bad." billy crystal had a heart felt tribute. >> so amazing. one of the big more popular moments of the show and the highest rated moment of the show is in memorial. last year it was very depressing. this year they did it perfectly as each of the people came up of people we lost this year. at the end billy crystal did a tribute to his long time friend and colleague, robin williams. this is what he had to say. >> he made us laugh hard. it is very hard to talk about
him in the past because he was so present in all of our lives. miraculously because they float in the heavens so far away from us now the beautiful light will continue to shine in us forever and the glow will be so bright it will warm your heart, it will make your eyes glisten. and you will think to yourselves, robin williams, what a concept. >> well said. >> very moving. it all started last night on the red carpet. we were there live. the big question we asked everyone last night was some of the best story telling is happening right now on television. we asked some of the stars what they thought about that. >> i think television is kind of like a new film. a lot of people are telling us television is where it is at. >> drawing the best actors out there? >> that's what great material
does. it draws the best talent. >> the fact that networks put money behind big shows. i think boundaries are left because you can do any concept or idea and follow it to the darkest place. >> a great, great night out there. a little hot in the l.a. sun. >> that the where you are wearing a vest this morning? >> i figured why not? trying things different. we are bringing the vest back. >> it works, michael. >> thank you, sir. >> worked for chuck coners on the rifle men. >> he was not nominated. it is 25 minutes before the top of the hour. >> everyone loves you because you go from the emmy's to that. it is just so fun. >> it was a great show. it lightened my life in the
afternoons after school. here is what is happening in the news. a football player turns hero when he jumps into action to save his nephew's life. star defensive back for the university of california was at his cousin's house when his 7-year-old nephew started to drown in a swimming pool. shaw jumped off of the second story balcony on to the concrete and pulled that boy to safely. he did severely sprain both ankles and will be sidelined. despite risking his season and potentially his career shaw says he would do it all over again. murderers on the loose. u.s. immigration and customs enforcement releasing convicted killers. 169 immigrants have been released with homicide related convictions because of a supreme court ruling which prohibits from detaining people who cannot be deported.
ice said they cannot release identity and locations because of privacy concerns. it looks like a top model should get used to the perp walk and not the catwalk. this dutch beauty charged with shop lifting fish oil and chocolates from whole foods. appearing in a manhattan court the six foot stunner was told to stand up straight and unfold her arms. she declined a plea deal saying i'm doing fashion week soon. a romantic mystery. police in london looking for a stolen car when their helicopter spotted this. will you marry me spelled out in lit candles. the thermal image picking up the man getting on one knee in a par. police left wondering who the couple was. thanks to twitter he they are. their back is to the camera. we know that she said yes. those are your headlines. brian, over to you.
a buzzworthy performance at the u.s. open. let's talk tennis. a be wreaking havoc on venus williams first round win. the two bugging out as attendants tried to swat away the pesky opponent which would not get off her racquet. williams refused to kill the bee and later would not comment. the bee could not be reached for comment. this may be the last time they watch the nationals. a little girl in front of the nationals pitcher stephen strasburg as he winds up for a warmup pitch. the girl was involved in the pregame show and just didn't leave. she ran between the pitcher's mound and home plate. kids do not belong at baseball games. make the kids stay home. talk about crafting a message for new recruits the university of tennessee photo shop "rolling stone" of him with beyonce.
it includes a section on why the pop star thinks tuttle belongs at tennessee. the big question is will it work. tuttle is still undecided. it is amazing what schools will do to get a top level recruit. in the world of polling a poll asking is it appropriate for young children to play at the park alone? 68% of you americans say that there should be a law that would require kids under 9 to be supervised. remember, this comes on the heels of a south carolina woman who was thrown in jail because she allowed her 9 year old to go to the playground unsupervised. >> 68% for a 9 year old. 43% feel the same way if a kid is 12. what do you think about that? >> obviously, it depends on the
circumstances. if you are in a bad section and have to worry about going outside your house it is an issue. in suburban america or cities without a high crime rate, just normal every day things i think it is a bad message. you scare the heck out of kids thinking you walk out and get kidnapped. i can't go in the park, parents paranoid. >> with everyone's head down into their device you don't necessarily feel that everyone has that neighborhood watch over the kids. when i grew up everyone was watching. elizabeth was doing this. people telling my mom what i did all day long. >> you were a bad kid for a while. >> the irony is all of us played in the park alone when we were in kindergarten. now we are all parents. there are so many helicopter parents who don't let the kids out of their sight and then scare them where they say you have to be careful. if you know your neighborhood. if your kid has a cell phone
when they are out and about they are going to be safe. what kid doesn't know about stranger danger? what teacher -- just get away from them. >> should be illegal. >> it criminalizes the kid and the parents, is that okay with you? >> there would be no satch, no mo. >> they went to the park alone. >> they were at the park alone. let us know what you think. e-mail us or facebook or twitter. northern california still reeling from a massive earthquake. our next guest says they actually dodged a bullet and the worst could be to come. and a top secret weapon that could hit any target in the world within hours. it is not a secret anymore after a mission failure is caught on camera. >> what is that?
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15 minutes to the top of the hour time for quick headlines. batteries in apple's iphone 5 turning rotten? apple recalling a small percentage of iphone 5s because batteries no longer hold charge. to see if your phone is eligible head to website and enter your serial number. and a photograph shows the moment a top secret weapon explodes. the hypersonic weapon was destroyed four seconds after launching. officials say there was a technical glitch. >> great. thank you very much. northern california is still picking up the pieces and reeling from a massive earthquake over the weekend.
our next guest says we dodged a bullet and the worst is still to come. here now is associate director at u.s. geological survey. >> we dodged a bullet i understand you told one of our producers. what are you talking about? >> a couple of different things. one is that this earthquake ruptured and began in the south and ruptured up to the north. so a lot of the energy was directed away from some of the most populated areas and particularly some of the soils, the california bay delta which is a major source of water for californians. a lot of levees are susceptible to liquid faction failure. the energy was directed up towards napa. of course, we saw what happened with the buildings there. you also saw a lot of sidewalks where there was rubble. this was in the middle of the night. we saw no fatalities. we are very grateful for that.
that is part of a factor. it was 3:00 in the morning. if it were a different time of the day we would have seen fatalities. >> it is interesting you talk about how thankfully the energy was directed to the north. had it been to the south that could have been much worse. automatically when people think about big california fault lines they think of the san andreas fault. this particular fault that had the earthquake the other day was the west napa fault. it kind of runs parallel to the big one, right sth. >> that's right. the san andreas is a system of faults. they are taking up movement all the time. about the speed the fingernails are growing. moves against north american plate. since we are talking about rocks even though plates may be moving slowly the rocks themselves get jammed up. pressure builds up and they fail. there is a whole sequence of
faults in the bay area that have the potential for building up strength and have the potential for a major damaging earthquake. >> and there is an image that shows 63%. put on your professor hat for just a second. what is a straight slip? >> there is essentially three ways that these plates can be interacting. one is that they are pressing against one another and you get for example subduction zones around the ring of fire in the pacific. where they are diving down against the other. you can get them pulling apart or have them moving side to side. that is what happens in the case of the san andreas system. it is what we call a strike-slip fault. it moves to the right or the left. it is accommodating that kind of a movement. >> very informative stuff. we thank you very much. i think people watching may have
got two hours of college credit. that was really good. folks, you know what a strike-slip is. >> thank you, david. burger king may be forced to leave the united states because they say their corporate taxes are too high. one democrat slamming the move. how about criticizing shouldn't our ridiculously high rates be the focus. for two years this 12 year old running a lemonade stand to help pay the bills. why is one neighbor trying to shut him down? that young entrepreneur here live next. ♪ ♪
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he's 12 years old, but fort last two years, t.j. has been hard at work running a lemonade stand in his fellow there neighborhood. >> but while cops say it's completely legal, one neighbor has been pushing to shut him down. joining us is lemonade stanine, t.j., welcome. when did you get this idea for a lemonade stand with different flavors and the location? >> well, my friends, they did a lemonade stand in the summer before i did it. i figured that was a good idea, so i decided to try it. >> were you surprised that someone by the name of doug wilke decided to complain and doesn't think you should have this. he says it's an illegal business, causes traffic problem, too much noise and trash? >> yes, i was very surprised. >> so has he said anything to you directly?
>> no, not really. >> wow. they actually we know around, the police went around and said the neighbors were polled and no one around seems to have a problem but this gentleman. what would you tell him about this business and why it's so important to you? >> that this lemonade stand is a very good business and that everybody else is supporting the lemonade stand. so i think he should, too. >> right. it's totally legal right now. he's just made a few phone calls. how much is the lemonade and what kind of flavors do you offer? >> lemonade is one dollar and i have pink, strawberry and regular for one dollar. i said that. and 50 cents for cookies. >> you get cookies, too. so you expanded into food. >> yes. >> i heard you're 12 years old now. i heard you can't wait to be 14. why is that? >> because when i'm 14, i can apply for a bagger job at
publix. >> right. what do you do with the money? >> i buy my mom and i dinners. i pay for cell phone bill. all different things. >> wow. that's tremendous. >> such an entrepreneur. >> it doesn't get you down that your neighbor is complaining and has hurt your business, 'cause he says it's very loud and some of the people that come there use profanity. >> it does kind of make me upset the fact that he is kind of lying, because nobody does that. but everybody else has supported me so much. so that just brings me right back up. >> we actually reached out to him to see if he would join us and provide a comment, but we haven't heard back yet. have you given him any remedy, maybe a free cup? >> i tried, but he won't really listen. he won't come to the stand. he won't answer the door. >> why do you think that is? >> i guess he's just not really
into the lemonade stand, so he doesn't want to join. >> right. >> i tell you, it looks like everything that's good about america. beautiful neighborhood, beautiful town. great drinks. what else can you ask for? >> a fantastic entrepreneur who can't wait to get his first official job. we are impressed, we have some cheers to you today with our own lemonade. >> it's not as good as yours, but it will have to do. >> thank you. >> thanks for hanging with us this morning and hope you have good sales. >> if we only can get him to deliver. four minutes before the top of the hour. it's the most popular week for beach goers. but this could change all that. a great white shark could be coming to your beach. where that shark is heading and does he have your name on his mind? >> and they show up for waffles and stay fort alcohol. the new york neighborhood getting up in arms over these
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good morning. it is tuesday, august 26. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. they told us lois lerner irs targeting e-mails were gone forever. >> a hard drive crash and some e-mails may have been lost. >> hard drive crashed in which the e-mails were lost. >> no e-mails could be retrieved, was recycled and destroyed. >> this morning a huge bombshell. they were never really gone. it turns out it was just too much work for the government to find them. >> great. meanwhile, a flight diverted at 30,000 feet because two passengers came to blows over leg room. that little gizmo right there featured in the green circle led to an epic midair meltdown.
we'll tell you about it. a quiet day at the beach turns terrifying when this, yep, that, you know, this and that was spotted swimming just feet away from shore. that's a great white shark with the capability of coming on land. run for your lives, but team your tv on so we get the ratings 'cause mornings are better with friends. >> hear ye, hear ye, this is the town crier! you are watching "fox & friends"! >> thank you, town cryer. brian, i think you're confusing the news of the day, which is big out of massachusetts, with sharknado. that wasn't real? >> it wasn't? >> wicked big news coming out of massachusetts. >> yeah. we got a reporter to tell us about that in a moment. but right now, ainsley earhart joins us on this tuesday with an update. >> hey. yes. let me tell you what's happening in the headlines. an update to a missing person story. we first told you about it yesterday. 21-year-old lucas roby has been
missing for a week after he failed to show up for college at the university of montana. now a new clue might be shedding some light on all this. this surveillance footage from garden valley, idaho, appears to show his green subaru last tuesday. search teams and volunteers are now scouring the mountains of the boise national forest for any signs of him or his car. kenneth long was the last person to see him. he will join us at 8:15 with the latest on this search. lois lerner's lost irs e-mails do exist. that according to government watchdog judicial watch. they say justice department attorneys are admitting now the e-mails are likely on back up computers, but they say they're just too difficult to retrieve. the agency accused of targeting conservative groups has repeatedly said that her lost e-mails cannot be recovered. >> just an amazing sequences of cover-up, delay, denial, even what now appears to be a false
statement from the new irs commissioner in which he said he moved heaven and earth to give us lois lerner's lost e-mails. he either lied under oath or he chose not to know a critical fact. >> judicial watch now plans to ask a federal judge to force the irs to hand over those e-mails. a united airlines flight forced to land in chicago because of a battle over leg room. a passenger using the band's knee defender device to stop the woman in front of him from reclining. the knee defender essentially locked her seat into place so that she couldn't move it back and she became angry. a flight attendant intervened asking the man to remove the gadget. he refused. the two passengers got into it. the furious female even throwing water on the guy. both passengers were kicked off the plane when it landed in chicago. get this, they were both seated in economy plus, which already has four inches of more leg
room. "breaking bad" broke good. the tv show dominating the emmy awards almost a year after going off the air. >> and the emmy goes to "breaking bad". >> it took home six emmys, including best drama series. bryan cranston picked up lead actor. anna gun and aaron paul won for supporting roles. one of the best dressed, "modern family" star sofia vergara. with missing one thing, her new boyfriend. sofia vergara said that she didn't bring him because he's too hot for the red carpet. you be the judge. there he is. and speak of steamy, julia louis-dreyfus got quite a surprise from former seinfeld flame. >> you look so much like the actor in "seinfeld" who played the dentist that i dated. >> she won five emmys and had 18
nominations. previous wins have been for seinfeld -- >> he was on seinfeld, yeah. >> she took home her third emmy award in a row for best actress. those are your headlines. >> very thorough. thank you. meanwhile, we've got a fox news alert. united states has overnight started flying surveillance drones over the country of syria. >> this move authorized by president obama over the weekend brings the u.s. one step closer to an all-out air assault in the region. >> could it happen and did we ask the government for permission? how do they feel about this? let's go live to peter doocy in washington. hey, peter. >> reporter: hey. the goal right now is to get a better look at what kind of fire power isis is working with in syria. that's why president obama signed off on surveillance flights over syria and depending
on what these man asked unmanned aircraft see, the next move could be air strikes. >> we've been looking at syria from across the border with very high altitude observation for a long time. now he's given permission to fly drones over syria. this is a step props of increasing surveillance and reconnaissance over time, gather the information, find the targets and eventually i'll guarantee you, we're going to start bombing them. >> reporter: a syrian government official is warning the white house not to start air strikes unless their president, al assad, gives the okay. the obama administration says they may not ask permission. kind of like when they decided to go after bin laden in pakistan without giving anyone a heads up. >> i'm not going to get ahead of decision making that the president hasn't made yet or rule any option on our off the table, but we're not going to be restricted by borders. we're actively considering
what's going to be necessary to deal with this threat. we're certainly working with a range of partners in the region as we coordinate those efforts. >> reporter: there is a debate about how much of a threat isis really is. the white house says they don't know of any active isis plots against the u.s. homeland, but the house intel committee chairman mike rogers concerned with all the westerners getting involved with militants said this weekend, isis fighters are one plane ticket away from u.s. shores. back to you in new york. >> all right. thank you very much. it seems like the debate as well is going on between the white house and the pentagon. last week the pentagon, you got the joint chiefs chair, general dempsey, he said that the only way to take out isis is to go over to syria. couple days later, he walks it back. he says, you know what? it's really just kind of a regional threat. what happened? why did he flip flop? ralph peters has an idea.
>> took hem out behind the wood shed and for an extended period. general dempsey committed the greatest sin you can commit in the obama administration last week. he told the truth. and that just doesn't go with them being a jv team or the administration's narrative. he and secretary hagel were right, president obama would have to do something. with a wave of the president's magic golf club, suddenly within back to, where, it's not an immediate threat. >> so the question is, what would he be doing? so if we do start bombing there, we are technically helping assad who is our enemy and has done nothing for the last 15 years in that region but make life miserable for us and indirectly responsible for the loss of american lives. among the people who are critical of us taking action if it's just willie nilly and without a plan is the free syrian army who have been let down. they say we have not done anything we said we were going to do and that by doing what we
said we're going to do now, it would be like tickling them. >> it seems confusing at the border. -- that the border seems so administration to the administration, but our own border here does not. right now this imminent threat, there is no denying it. an american was beheaded and it went across the web waves like wild with a message from isis and their intentions to drown us in blood. we actually spoke with the former head of the c.i.a. rodriguez, and he said that if we don't do something, isis will sure do it. they'll do it right here in our soil. >> isis is a dangerous and evil organization that has no problems beheading american citizens and mark my words, if we don't go after them, they will come after us here at home and try to kill us and terrorize us. so we have to go after them. >> he handed up the clandestine
service. he knows it. what's interesting is the fact with this break news that -- apparently the white house authorized the flying of drones over syria. we weren't doing it before. isis has been over there for a long time and the fact that just now we're finding out that we're going back because the president didn't want to cross that international border? that is crazy. >> right. he said there was no dissemination. it was a fallacy to think we could just arm a small section of the anti-assad forces. we put in a request for $580 million to arm them and now we're looking to blow up isis to empower them, so something doesn't gel here. yet what's staggering is we still don't have a comprehensive plan. >> most people are praying we don't see a double bogey when it comes to syria with this administration. >> we've got another breaking news story. the iconic line from "jaws," we're going to need a bigger boat, left on this shore line as beach goers are warned of a great white shark in
massachusetts. leah gabriel joins us with the latest details. >> good morning. beach goers in massachusetts clearing the water on a beautiful sunny day after an unexpected visitor shows up. this massive great white estimated to be 15 feet long. spotted just yards off the shore line. the state police called in to verify it was indeed a shark, while confused beach goers had no clue. >> we're in the water maybe three feet deep and we saw the helicopter start coming from the south end of the beach. >> the lifeguard came and told people to get out of the water and i went down and i just asked and they said there had been a shark sighting. >> reporter: lifeguards ordering everyone out of the water for two hours. then the shark slowly swam for deeper water. once the coast guard determined it was safe, people got back in the ocean. at least one person having a little fun with it, leaving this message on the shore line. you're going to need a bigger boat. the famous line from the movie "jaws." and while the beach is now back
open, warnings is posted to swim at your own risk. there is stepped up police presence as we head into the holiday weekend. i don't know about you, but swimming with sharks not on my to do list. >> i wouldn't be the first one back in the water either. >> thank you very much. a little close to home, the movie "jaws" was filmed in massachusetts at martha's vineyard. >> yes. which has a big problem now. >> with the cops there, no shark wants to get a ticket on a holiday weekend. coming up, they show up for the waffles and stay for unlimited cocktails. now neighbors fighting back with this video of boozies brunchers. but is that legal? how many mimosas in that? >> right. i think you got to cut them off. burger king under fire for wanting to leave the united states over high taxes. but is burger king really to blame? stuart varney is from england. ♪
♪ >> they're buy ago canadian doughnut chain. here is what happened when they made the announcement in the city council up there in toronto, the burger king is buying a canadian doughnut shop. here is what happened. out of my way, lady! out of my way! i got to get to the doughnuts.
in a whopper of a move, burger king is in talks to buy a canadian company so they can move their operation, burger king, out of this country and into canada which some are calling unamerican. >> i think it is also about taxes. i think you're right because burger king is so visible, it puts the focus on the general behavior of corporate america and in a sense, the contempt that they feel for the average citizen of the united states. >> is this a bad move or a response to the high regulation and taxes in this country? here to discuss is the host of varney and company, stuart
varney. >> wait a minute, there is a new angle. >> which is? >> warren buffet, president obama's major corporate supporter. he is facilitating burger king's move. >> wow. >> he is financing part of the deal. he is helping burger king leave america, which is an astonishing thing because he's the principle corporate supporter of president obama. >> ironic there. but explain why businesses are opting to do this or why they feel this is only, if not best choice for their business? >> several reasons. number one, if you go overseas, you get a lower corporate tax rate. america's tax rate is the highest in the world, 35%. go oversea, get a lower tax rate. more profit for you and your shareholders. number two, this is a very antibusiness country at the moment. the obama administration regulates business, tries to stamp down on business. corporations are fleeing in droves to a less regulated environment. who would have thought 20 years ago, 25 years ago that american companies would jump ship, go to
canada of all places for lower taxes, less regulation, more growth? who would have thought? >> why is the reaction -- this is devastating for business, the fact that they have to jump ship. >> it's very strong from american business. lower the tax rate, reform the corporate tax structure and let us grow in america. that's what they want. >> 70 companies have left the country and gone overseas since the 1980s. >> how long until somebody in the administration calls warren buffet unamerican? >> unpatriotic, unamerican. that's what president obama called these companies which have jumped ship. corporate deserters, unpatriotic. >> the interesting thing is so many people say, the most brilliant investor, the most brilliant businessman in the world is warren buffet, and he sees the utility in leaving the united states. corporate wise to avoid the tax. >> it's astonishing. president obama got a lot of support from warren buffet when he was doing the tax story.
warren buffet objected to pay ago lower tax rate than his secretary. of course, he didn't pay himself very much. that's why he paid a lower rate. now we have the instance of he's supporting burger king, financing burger king jumping ship to canada. >> that's the closest thing we have to royalty in this country and it's leaving. >> i'm sorry. i got it. i just got it. >> it's okay. >> we could say the same thing about larry king, but he's staying. we'll be watching you on fox business. >> thank you so much. coming up, his tickets sell tore over 100 bucks a pop. but gang members got to say david blane for free. we'll explain. >> did he disappear? and call dad's little helper around the house because it will launch your daughters to career success. mark meryl and just how real that impact is.
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it's raining numbers. that means it's time for news by the numbers. first, 169 convicted killers. that's how many murderers the united states immigrations and customs enforcement have released over the last year. 169. due to privacy laws, they can't reveal their names or locations. terrific. next, $15,000. that's how much oprah spends on water tankers to keep her 40-acre california estate looking green. this as other lawns in the state suffer water restrictions amid a very long drought.
and finally, $10. that's how much arby's new sandwich is going to cost you. the super sized sandwich boasts eight different delicious kinds of meat and two different cheeses. look at that. what time does arby's open? >> that made me hungry. thanks. they say actions speak louder than words and it turns out this could be the case when it comes to fathers and daughters. a new study finding dads who help out more with household chores ended up having daughters who aspire to less traditional feminine jobs. could that be true? joining us is the president of family first and author of all pro dad, mark meryl. good morning. >> good morning. >> so the study is interesting. it basically said if a dad helps out, their daughters would most likely be astronauts, marine biologists, geologists, police officers, professional hock you're owe soccer players. if they don't help out, the daughters would tend toward more feminine jobs, being a nurse, fashion designer, librarian or
stay at home mom. what's your assessment of this? >> my assessment of this small university of british columbia study is i have five kids and i have three daughters. i have a corporate recruiter who is working out in the work field now. i have a nuclear engineer and then i have a musical theater major who is in college. i can tell you, the fact that i did a lot of laundry and dishes as my kids were growing up probably doesn't have too much to do with their career choice. now, i will have to say that there are fringe benefits to doing the chores. in fact, my wife, she loves it. >> i bet she does. let me ask you this, so how can we -- you're speaking from experience. five kids, three daughters who with well on their way to success. do you believe that there are things that you can do as a father specifically that impact their decisions, careers and self-esteem? and what are they? >> yeah. no question about. parental influence is one of the
biggest things that we can do as a parent to affect our kids' career choice. the first one is be a student of your child. watch and take mental notes of your child's natural inclination s in their areas of giftedness. we always did that when our kids were little. one of my daughters, emily, i noticed she was really creative. she loved to sing. so we made sure that we directed her in that area and put her in courses and allowed her to perform, to really work that out. >> what do dads get wrong, do you think? >> well, i think sometimes dads get it wrong that they just really don't understand the incredible impact that they can have on their daughters and mom, too. and so it's very important to be a student of your child. it's also very important to validate your children's gifts. not only observe them, but also look at them and say to them, you know what? i've noticed that you're really good with people. i think you should continue to
develop that because that's -- you're really, really good at that. that's something that we need to do as well. so not only be a student of your child, but also to validate them in their gifts. >> good advice there. dads across the nation right now are pretty psyched because they don't have to do extra chores, it won't make a difference in the career choice. but it's being there and what they can do with their kid that matters. thank you for that advice. >> thanks. tell tim no more chores. he's off the hook. he doesn't have to do anything else. >> i hope he didn't hear that. thanks, mark. >> thanks. coming up, they show up for the waffles and they stay for unlimited cocktails. new neighbors now are fighting back with this video of boozey brunchers. but is it legal? and the college football season kicks off in a matter of days. we are warming up in the middle of times square. brian loves soccer so much, we're going to see if he can kick a field goal.
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all right. damage estimates following the 6 magnitude earthquake in napa, california on sunday could take weeks to tally. fixing the damages could top $1 billion. but experts say we dodged a bullet and the worst could still be to come. >> there is a whole sequence of faults in the bay area that have the potential for -- they're building up strength and have the potential for a major damaging earthquake. >> rick reichmuth is live in napa with how this quake could actually impact the wine
industry moving forward. a lot of people worried in the coming days here that the worst could be yet to come as we heard and the wine industry one of them. >> yeah. wine industry is a really difficult thing, especially small business owners. large wine companies, or wine makers, maybe not having as much of an impact, but it's really the small wine make that are will have some of the biggest impact. i'm joined by karen, a wine owner. thank you for letting us be in your space. all of these barrels that we're looking at fell very quickly, you say. >> yes. it happened very fast. it was 3:20 in the morning. my husband and i live next to the winery. so obviously a loud boom came. we later realized the boom was the barrels coming down. and it happened instantly. >> and you look at all of this, so you still don't have a good sense on the economic loss for you guys? >> we're in the process of pulling the barrels out, finding out how much wine we actually lost and as you can see, we
still have a lot of work to do. >> kind of a dangerous process in trying to get this out as well. you have people in here doing this, but there is danger to the people as they're trying to pull these out. >> you're right. it's very dangerous and slow. we have to be very careful and it's not something people do all the time. so there is not a whole practice on how you pick up barrels that have toppled over like this. >> we have been hearing that earthquake insurance is prohibitive to get. it's so costly. so any loss here is directly to you. >> right. >> as a small business owner. >> my husband and i own the business ourselves. we just happen to sell wine. and each bottle, each barrel lost is all directly affecting us. >> i want to say, first of all, it is harvest season, so that's one of the reasons why this happening at this time is so difficult. you got grapes that you have to get off of the vines right now. they are, these bottles that were not damaged, but you can see the labels are damaged. you guys are selling these as collector's items now.
karen, thank you very much and best of luck to you guys. >> thank you. back to you. >> all right. rick, real quick, those big barrels behind you, if they're not broken and the wine is still in them, is it still drinkable? >> it's a great question. if the barrel is intact, the wine is completely fine. there will be no damage to the wine at all. >> quality stays the same. >> that's the most important part to this. certainly. >> it's just all shook up. >> and a great note to everyone out there, if they want to be able to help out, buy a bottle. why not. >> collector's item. 25 minutes before the top of the hour. ainsley earhart has headline duty today. >> yes. thank you. a new twist in the michael brown shooting case. a new audio recording claims to have captured the very moment that officer darren wilson opened fire on the 18-year-old. on the recording which has not
been verified, 11 shots are allegedly fired. an autopsy showed brown was hit six times. this as thousands gathered inside a st. louis church paying final respects to brown. family friends, celebrities and strangers among the crowd. the reverend al sharpton delivering a wild speech, criticizing police and calling for justice. and hopefully he didn't give tips how to escape. dare devil magician david blane performing tricks for dozens of new york city's most dangerous inmates. the hour long free show reportedly a reward for the high security inmates with good behavior. inmates included gang members from the rival bloods and crypts, guards are not happy. one saying, quote, how the -- am i allowed to say that on air? all right. how the hell does a killer get to watch a rabbit get pulled out of a hat? good question. they show up for breakfast and they stay for booze.
look at this video. boozey brunchers are popular in new york and in this one neighborhood, people are up in arms over the boozey brunchers there. and there is video to prove it. footage posted on youtube shows young patrons hunched over, stumbling, getting sick on the sidewalk, and even falling on the ground and it's all thanks to a bottomless brunch at a restaurant called prana. the management says they're beefing up security, watering down drinks and decreasing the number of reservations in an effort to keep their liquor license. those are your headlines. they're very popular. that's not the only restaurant in new york that has that. >> a lot of them have the bottomless mimosa cup. >> 45 bucks and you can get all you can eat and drink. >> they get pancaked is what i'll call that, thanks. brian kilmeade joins us from the crossroads of the world as the football season kicks off for college. >> yes. here we are on 44th street at times square. we haven't been here since the super bowl and it was minus 1 degree out.
college football starts in the summer. kirk said i'll come do a spot with you. one of the finest commentators in college football. a fine player in his day. why did you drag me all the way down here from this beautiful studio? >> look at this. >> what is going on here? >> brian put one right through the uprights. but i'm here to hang out with you, of course. allstate's got an amazing thing going on. celebrator their ten-year anniversary to the good hands net. you see them in all the college football games. the thing that i think is most impressive is they have a sweepstakes called it's good sweepstakes. a chance to go to the sugar bowl for four people, the national championship for four people and win $100,000. >> right. >> that's it. >> that's cool. today you've come to take a field goal, meet kirk, as well as have a chance to get these college football prizes. let's talk about this year. for the first time ever, the president has been calling for a football playoff. what's it going to look like? are we getting the voters out of
it. >> you'll have a 13-person panel. no more computers. it's a good step in the right direction. we have four teams. we used to have two. you have the allstate sugar bowl is a semifinal game, and the pasadena rose bowl. the winner of those two will play in the first ever national championship and that's in dallas. >> we have the top five by the a.p. flax fellow state to repeat, alabama still going to be in transition.
>> real quick, before i kick, al michaels came out and said i will not be talking about what's going on in the world during my day. bob costas talks about gun control. >> i work on two shows, college game day in the morning like you guys do. i'll ta,!é about that. but when i'm calling a game, the way michaels would do and saturday night, i'm going to talk about the game. i'm going to talk about the game, the subject matter involving that night and that broadcast. i don't think that's the platform to do that. i agree with al. >> he's al, less bob. so today you're going to have a chance to come to 42nd street and hit field goals. >> 11 to 1. >> am i going to hit this? >> this is going to hit the t, the first t in allstate. >> oh! >> come on of the you got to do better than that. >> i didn't realize i got a field goal plus. >> lookedp1o good. >> i think that was it. >> hurry up. >> there you go.
>> very nice. brian kilmeade, you just broke a little toe. >> back to you guys. >> we've got ice for that toe backf/4áq that is fun. right there times square. coming up, report claiming a special forces mission that tried to rescue james foley from isis was delayed because the president colonel tony shaver next with what he's hearing from inside the pentagon on that. and it's one of the most popular e-mail services out there. but gmail can be hacked almost 100% of the time. do you have a gmail account? you're going to want to stick around.
welcome back. quick headlines. gmail users may be at risk of getting hacked. researchers claim after getting gmail users to download an app, they could hack the account with a 92%atl success rate. also high at risk, chase bank and h & r block. this weakness found in android, windows and ios operating systems. yikes. and the government may soon be snooping on twitter. the feds are spending $1 million to create an on line database to track misinformation and hate speech. the database will also focus on political activity as well. over to you, steve. did president obama wait too long to launch a rescue mission for eç-including the journalists beheaded, james foal zoo according to the uk sunday times, quote, pentagon sources said foley and the others might well have been rescued, but
obama concerned about the ramifications of u.s. troops being killed or captured in syria took too long to authorize the mission. he took too long. lieutenant colonel tony schaefer says his sources confirm that report and he joins us live from d.c good morning to you. >> thanks for having me. >> we had phil balbonioç on, he was jim foley's boss. when a bunch of european hostages, they negotiated the release for them, they immediately spilled the beans and said we gave them the exact location in the spring where jim foley was. >> and to account for the missing time, by the time the information got out, we had to do our own verification, assessment. and then to put together a planning to in. steve, my understanding is that plan was ready to go in june, early june, like the first -- before the first week and then it took about 30 days for quote, unquote, the assessment of the white house, to go through it. i think that delay was a
material reason why the raid was successful, but the hostages were not there. >> okay. if the raid was successful but the hostages weren't there, that's not a successful raid because the idea is to pick up the hostages. >> exactly. their job. but you're saying that the reason it failed was because the president sat on it too long. >> yes. everything is going on here, steve, is seen through a political lens. let me be very clear for this, you've got to assess our national security based on the intelligence available and instead of doing what's best based on the intelligence, everything is run through this multiple-pronged political optic of the white house. in this case, i think clearly there was a loft down sizing going on with the mission, but they went with the mission and then when the mission didn't pl, the hostages weren't captured, they threw special operations under the bus, well, it was their fault. it was the president's fault for
not approving when he should have. >> the national security council put out a statement that says this report that the president sat on it not accurate. what are they doing there? just spinning? >> well, i'd like to hear the explanation then. okay. if it's not accurate, then with a is accurate? this is where they always play this political narrative game. they've got to get out there and talk about it. they're the ones that put the information out about the raid. they didn't want to talk about the raid, they shouldn't have put it out there. >> sure. what has happened over the last week where on thursday you've got hagel and dempsey and they're having a very somber press conference when they talk about how isis is bigger than anything they've ever seen before and dempsey is very them, we're going to have to go over to syria and do it there. then a couple days later, you know, they're really just kind of a regional threat. what happened with the general? >> again, politicalization. it was very clear last week when secretary of defense hagel stated what he did with general dempsey, isis is a threat, a global threat.
they're coming for us. they're well funded and well organized. and then something happened over the weekend. it's like a mind trick. the president comes into town and these are not the terrorists you want to pursue. clearly, steve, there is a political narrative which always supersedes whatever the intelligence is at the moment. again, it's politicalization of things which should not be politicalized. >> and exit question, the news this morning is that apparently now the president has authorized drones to be flying over syria to look for the bad guys. bad guys until today. >> exactly. this should have been going on the last couple of years since syria has been an issue. steve, you don't conduct military operations without having a clear picture as best you can establish and clearly there is something wrong that we're only now doing it? they went from one sortie per month to 50 a day now, finally. they should have been doing it a long time ago. >> no kidding. tony, thank you for your
perspective.% >> thanks. do you like sports and beef? ip &c @&c@ other companies are hiring right next coming up. first on this date in history in 1986, "higher love" by steve winwood was the number one song in america. ♪ ♪
the job market may be toughç but that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of jobs out there. from the "fox business" network, cheryl casone joins us with the top companies hiring right now. always great to see you. >> goodh;$w'ing.
>> who who is hiring? >> cox communication, depends what part of the country that you live in whether or not you heard of them. cable television company. and they're in 18 states right now. they're based in phoenix, but they've got, again, 18 states. 160 jobs were posted now. they need sales agents, people that can do customer service, technical specialists, managers. this is full time employment. this is benefits, 401(k), vision, all of those things, company 'cause you want to make sure you can get the health care because the government doesn't e$ayrbujhey're looking for a variety of people. >> and jamba juice. you can work for them now. they range from -- if you're going to work at the company, work in the stores, like 8 to 13 bucks an hour. they're looking for team members, but shift leaders and leaders to manage the region.
they're expanding. they're looking to open 80 to juicing, fasting thing. janb arrange juice is reallybd%ñ fad. >> and that means great news for those looking for jobs. tell me about sentimark. >> it's contracting, it's roofing, contracting. it's a fairly old company here in the united states. you may not have heard ofymñ it. but you might want to work there. they've got about 100 jobs that are open right now. reps, people to do customer service and bmt!m laborers. i know some people think,#od go, i have to go work on a roof and that's dangerous or whatever. it could pay really well. benefits. there is 401(k), there is medical, dental, vision, things like that. andjkd b$mj÷o a very substanti, solid company that[jif( operat through9ffñ most of the u.s.2os and canada2rñ. >> see what -- here is another
company. >> we're talking food. nationwide, they're looking georgia, texas, illinois, new york. this is minimum wage jobs, and they've got benefit, but it's all about food and burgers and all that good stuff. it's a fun place to go and eat. if you want to work there, why not? >> great news. cheryl casone, if you want the info, you know where to go. cheryl's blog, casoneexchange.com. we want to thank you for joining us this morning. >> thanks. >> always. coming up, our military getting ready to fly drones into syria to learn more about isis. could air strikes be next? a live report from the white house at the top of the hour. and no one is talking about it. who won the emmys last night? but everyone is talking about who stole a kiss. we've got all the juicy details. d
good morning. it is tuesday, august 26. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. a fox news alert. the united states has begun flying surveillance drones over syria to lay the ground work for a potential air strike. but just yesterday the administration said a strike there is not happening. so what in the world is going on? also they told us those lois lerner irs targeting e-mails gone forever. remember? >> a hard drive crash and some e-mails may have been lost. >> hard drive crashed in which the e-mails were lost. >> no e-mails could be retrieved, was recycled and destroyed. >> well, that sounds bad. but this morning a big bombshell. those e-mail never really gone. turns out to get them out of a big machine, it's going to be too much work for the government. we'll tell you everything you need to know. >> i'm so confused. and remember this? (sound) the newest high school
class has no idea what else they don't know. you're going to see how much things have changed that will make you feel really, really old. at least you've got us. mornings are better with friends. >> how you doing? this is andrew dice clay, you're watching "fox & friends." oh! >> remember he was a fill-in host here? he did three hours. did a lot of the international relations segments. >> i don't remember. >> i know. he did a segment when he was very in touch with his emotions. >> i'll be darn. then he could probably identify that die-up sound. >> he probably could. >> remember those old days? that's coming up in a minute. right now, ainsley earhart joins us today. heather nauert has the day off. you're in her shoes. >> i am. let me start with this, an update to a missing person's story we first told you about yesterday. 21-year-old lucius roby has been missing for a week after he didn't show up to college at the university of montana.
now this surveillance footage from a chevron station in garden valley, idaho, appears to show his green subaru. you can see it there. it was last seen on tuesday. search teams and volunteers are now scouring the mountains of the boise national forest for any signs of him or signs of his car. kenneth long was the last person to see roby and he's going to join us live about 15 minutes with the latest on this search. a united airlines flight heading from newark to denver forced to land in chicago because of a battle over leg room. a passenger using a banned knee defender device, you can see it there, to stop the woman in front of him from reclining. the knee defender essentially locked her seat into place so she couldn't move back. that made her angry. flight attendant intervened, asked the man to remove the gadget, but he refused. that's when the passengers got into an argument. the furious female even threw her water on the guy. both passengers were kicked off the plane when it landed in chicago and they were both seated in economy plus, which
already gave them four extra inches of leg room. batteryies in the apple iphone 5 turning rotten. apple recalling the iphone 5 because the batteries no longer hold their charges. the company saying it is a very small percentage of those phones. brian apparently has one -- that will need their battery replaced. to see if your phone is eligible, head to apple's web site and enter in your serial number. >> i need something else to do. >> i'll do it for you. "breaking bad" broke good. the tv show dominating the emmy awards almost a year after going off the air. >> and the emmy goes to "breaking bad". >> "breaking bad" took home six emmys, including best drama series. bryan cranston picked up the award for the lead actor. anna gun and aaron paul won for their supporting roles. "modern family" becoming the first sitcom since "frazier" to
win five emmys in a row. and a moving tribute by billy crystal to the late robin williams. >> as a genius as he was on stage, he was the greatest friend you could ever imagine for almost 40 years. he was the brightest star in the comedy galaxy. robin williams, what a concept. >> and did you see this steamy moment? julia louis-dreyfus getting quite the surprise from a former "seinfeld" co-star. >> you look so much like the actor in "seinfeld" who played the dentist that i dated. >> she's won five emmys and had 18 nominations. >> he was on "seinfeld." yeah. >> she took home the best actress emmy for "veep." those are your headlines. >> in watching the emmys last
night, i was shocked how little network television we watch now. >> yeah. >> it's all about cable and streaming. >> what about our own bill o'reilly was nominated for "jfk," but he did not walk away with it. >> hanging out with rob lowe. >> thank you very much, ainsley. >> thanks. we got a fox news alert. the united states has started flying drones over syria. apparently until today we weren't. >> this move authorized by president obama over the weekend brings the u.s. one step closer to an all-out air assault in the region. >> and by the way, did we ask syria, should we ask syria? peter doocy at the white house. it's going to be a big day. >> reporter: brian, it's been a big week. the week here at the white house started with the obama administration trying to clarify that when president obama said isis falls into the jv category of terrorists, he just meant at the time that they had no designs on attacking the west.
but now president obama wants to have a look at the of fire power isis is working with, so he's order these surveillance flights over parts of syria that isis controlled and we have heard in the last few minutes those flights have begun. >> we've been looking at syria from across the border with very high altitude observation for a long time. now he's given permission to fly drones over syria. this is a step process of increasing surveillance and reconnance over time, gather the information, and eventually i'll guarantee you, we're going to start bombing them. >> reporter: a syrian official, though, is warning the white house not to start with air strikes unless president al assad signs off. you remember, though, president obama said in no uncertain terms that assad must step down. so now the white house is having to explain that any potential air strike would be an american interest. not an assad interest.
>> the incident is no, we're not interested in trying to help the assad regime. in fact, we have been calling for a number of years now for the assad regime to step down. >> reporter: most of the president's day will be spent going to charlotte for an merge legion convention. but when he gets back, he has a meeting with the secretary of state, john kerry, on the schedule. back to you. >> all right. peter doocy, i'm sure the president will get a warm reception at the american legion later today. >> you're being sarcastic, right? think about what he's done to the military. think about what's happened with the v.a. >> are you talking defunding, underestimating, undermining the cost that would be need to do defend against something like an isis that could pop up and surprise us? >> like i said, a warm reception. meanwhile, the white house had a lot of explaining to do. we've been telling you about how general dempsey a couple of days ago said the ohm way to take out isis is to go into syria and do
something there. then he walked it back and he said essentially, you know, isis is just kind of regional. yesterday josh earnest was asked about the president who said in january to the new yorker magazine that isis was just a jv team. keep in mind, the president just last week referred to it as a cancer that needed to be dealt with. so we were going to play josh earnest trying to spin his way out of that and that will be followed by lieutenant colonel allen west who doesn't think that mr. earnest is honest. >> the president was not singling out isil. he was talking about the very different threat that is posed by a range of extremists around the globe. many of them do not have designs on attack the west or attacking the united states. and that is what puts them in stark contrast to the goals and capability of the previously existing al-qaeda core network that was led by osama bin laden.
>> when i listened to those comments made by josh earnest, those were inane, incoherent, incompetent, and absolutely idiotic. what josh earnest is doing and the obama administration is doing is trying to relegate and define isis in a term or an ideology that fits into their own national security strategy so they don't have to take an action. >> if the president was being candid and honest, he could say, hey, i totally underestimated what they can do and i was too slow off the mark and maybe in retrospect we shouldn't have pulled all our troops out. so as fallujah fell, we should have said that's a little bit of an issue. >> but al-qaeda was on the run, remember? >> right. that would have been trouble. but he had already won reelection and there is wrong with the president saying i misjudged and underestimated. you can say fdr misjudged japan. never thought they would bomb pearl harbor. oops. that happened. but in the big picture, i think the president has not come up with a plan yet to stop isis,
whether it's jv or varsity, and i think it's staggering to find out later that egypt and the united arab emirates had their own aerial campaign in libya without even telling us. these are allies of ours and we're pretty much in control of that region. that shows how little trust and little interest people have in checking with us 5 1/2 years after they were afraid of us. >> state department officials thursday estimate 12,000 fighters in 50 country, including up to 100 americans joined radicals fighting. we now know this is a big deal. why they're walking it back, we're not sure. why the president doesn't seem to have a handle on it verbally as a cancer. is this the worst thing we've yet to come and see. why doesn't he want to get a grip on it, many are asking. >> meanwhile, let's talk about the scandal. remember it was lois lerner who apologized to tea party groups and conservatives that the irs illegally targeted them. then there were lawsuits where people tried to get the e-mail to make sure whether or not the
white house was coordinating with lois lerner. well, then we learned that all the e-mails were gone because she had a crashed hard drive, blah, blah, blah, the dog ate my homework. as it turns out, judicial watch, which has filed freedom of information act lawsuits to get to the bottom of it, they were told by irs attorneys on friday, according to the man who runs it, that lois lerner's e-mail and all government records are backed up in case of a government-wide catastrophe. so her e-mail do exist. but government attorneys say it's too complicated to get them out. here is tom now. >> everything we've been hearing about scratched hard drives, about missing e-mails with lois lerner, other irs officials, other officials in the obama administration, it's all been a pack of malarky. they could get these records, but they don't want to and they haven't told anyone about it.
frankly until we were able to get it out of them on friday. >> see how much it costs to get the records. >> chairman issa is saying he wants a close door questioning again of koskinen. >> i'm sure that will go well. coming up, a bombshell report claiming that special forces mission that tried to rescue james foley from isis was delayed because the president feared for his own image. karl rove on deck to weigh in on that. and it's a top secret weapon that could hit any target in the world within hours. it's not a secret anymore because it failed and we taped it.
breaking right now, a live look in texas where a house went up in flames overnight. you can see the smoke still smoldering. a charred mess indeed. fire crews still on the scene. at least one person was hospitalized and officials believe a gas explosion may be to blame. steve? >> in other news, the white house doesn't seem to be able to commit to a strategy to defeat isis. yesterday the press secretary even saying the president hasn't
figured out what to do about syria. >> in terms of giving an update on the status, i'm not in a position to do that beyond saying the president has not made a decision to order military action in syria. >> really? here to discuss fox news contributor karl rove. what's he saying there? >> he's saying they haven't made a decision, they're still thinking. they've been thinking about this for about six weeks, ever since isis exploded across the northern part of iraq. they have been befuddled and hyped the 8 ball and they continue to be. >> is it denial or procrastination? >> look, normally -- let's go back to last week. on tuesday the secretary of state comes out and says we must crush isis. they must be destroyed. on thursday we have this extraordinary press conference with hagel, secretary of defense, and martin dempsey, chairman of the joint chiefs where they say we got to go after isis. they're a real threat. hagel says they're bigger than anything we faced before and dempsey says if we're going to get them, we have to get them in syria to destroy their command
and control nodes. normally you would take the secretary of state, the secretary of defense and the chairman of the joint chiefs as indicating more importantly, we had ben rhodes, the deputy national security director, completely political guy, he comes out and says they're dangerous. you would assume that the president was moving towards that. but then we had search dee walk -- search see walk it back yesterday. >> look. they're confused. the president has been disengaged as he has been on these big foreign policy questions. but they have to sort it out. the pressure from congress, the pressure from the international community is what does america intend to do? >> the military has been cut to the bones. the only thing the president has cut. now we're asking the aircraft carrier to move into the region, continue to fight in afghanistan. maybe take on an aerial campaign in, while putting advisors in syria and iraq. at what point does the military says you can't do this while giving pink slips?
>> the military will tell them that. you're right. the defense cuts have been deep. >> 19 40s level. >> yeah. in the process of getting there. and my hope is that this will cause the administration to rethink its priorities. >> one of the reasons the administration suddenly started thinking about isis and doing something about it is the beheading of jim foley that was youtubed and disseminated across the country. what's curious is there was a report in the sunday times of london that said special operators apparently gave the president a planning to and try to rescue them, but he sat on it so long, the information was stale and when they got there, he was gone. >> yeah. we do know -- we don't know the details about this. it will be interesting to see if this times report is accurate. you had tony on this morning who affirmed it. but we need to find out more about t. first of all, we know one of the most perishable things in intelligence is things like the whereabouts of high
valued targets and high value captives. so it's very perishable so you need to move quickly. the second thing we know is look, the administration, we lack assets in the region. i mean, i don't believe the administration was completely unaware of the threat of isis, but they were clearly surprised when it exploded through northwestern iraq and it's because we frankly have very few assets on the ground that can collect and evaluate the intelligence that's available. >> right. >> now we've got some drones. karl rove, thank you. >> thanks for having me. 20 minutes after the top of the hour. coming up, for two years, this 12-year-old has been running a lemonade stand to help pay the bills. so why is one cranky neighbor trying to shut him down? you're going to hear from the young entrepreneur straight ahead. >> he's impressive. and this mom lost 80 pounds. check out her results. how did she do it? with a little help from her friends, of course. these women are starting a mommy movement and you can do it, too.
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time for news by the numbers. first, 169 convicted killers. that's how many murderers the u.s. immigration and customs enforcement have released over the last year. that's comforting. and their names andyvj locatios cannot be released. four seconds. the hype sonic lasted that long before exploding. officials blame a technical glitch. no kidding. finally, four. that's how many states are holding primaries today. voters heading to the polls in vermont, oklahoma, arizona, and florida. now, it's news by the -- that's news by the numbers.
>> thanks. hey, moms out there know how difficult it can be to stay fit while raising a family. our next guest did it together. losing a combined total of 210 pounds through what's called the mommy movement. joining us are the winners of the mommy movement challenge, nina, vanessa and ashley and ryan. congratulations, first of all. >> thank you. >> tell us about the mommy movement and your winning. >> having a sense of community within our groups to encourage each other, motivate each other, stay inspired. hard sometimes to stay motivated and we did that together. >> you actually were together. you knew each other before hand? >> yes. we're all co-workers. >> the power of this group is actually what got you through. you lost was a total of 210 pounds in 12 weeks. exceptional. you get to come to new york city, watch shows, get a makeover. >> yes. >> for a mom, that's great. i want to show everyone your before and afterment this is
your before. you see that here. and you lost a total of 80 pounds? >> yes. >> you're 45 years old. proud of that, i know. smiling indeed. >> what about this made it easy for you? >> the support of everybody, encouragement, knowing i wasn't doing it alone. when you overeat, do you it by yourself. i wasn't lonely. i had a community of friends and co-workers. >> moms love moms. vanessa, you lost how much? >> 65 pounds. >> so let's look at your before and after here. look at that. i see your smile. you're 37 years old. >> yes. >> you love the group here. were there any setbacks? when you have a group like this, does that help you? >> definitely helps, especially if you're impatient. if you're at work with people doing it with you, you're not going to have a burger and fries at your desk. they're holding you accountable. that's the best part. >> so i want to ask you, because ashley, you lost 15 pounds.
you all look fantastic. >> thank you. >> are you the youngest of the group? >> i just turned 30, so yes. >> happy birthday. >> thank you. >> i want to ask you, ashley, your before and after, let's look at this. you look good there. this book i know helped you. but were you all working out as well? was this purely food based? >> working out as well. 45 minutes walking, running, something like that. >> together or on your own, just letting each other know where you were? >> on your own. >> ryan, take a look at your birthday before and after. look at this. how much weight did you lose? >> i actually lost a total of 56 pounds. >> feel great? >> i feel amazing. especially because i did it before in my 20s and it was really hard. so embracing my 30s and feeling good is always the best way to start a new era in your life. >> so radio mamas. you certainly found success
here. are you going to continue? >> yes, oh, yes. >> definitely. >> i have another 20 to get off. >> i think y'all look fantastic. "lean for life," this book, how does this help you implement this diet, this movement? >> the best part is being able to work it throughout our program. when we have questions or not sure about something, when we need a suggestion for something else that we can eat or where to go out to eat or something like that, it's been really, really -- i still refer to it even though i read it like ten times now. it's good to have it as a reference. >> that's a big volume there. congratulations to you all. >> thank you. >> mommy movement has inspired i'm sure moms out there. >> thanks for our makeovers. >> oh, yes. we got makeovers and everything. new york and company definitely helped us with styling. actually during our trip. so it was really great having that, feeling beautiful, so wonderful. >> happy birthday. >> thank you. appreciate that. >> thank you for being with us.
mommy movement, the proof is right here in the pudding. or no pudding. >> right. >> love the support from the moms. thank you all. >> thank you. >> hey there, steve. >> hey, thank you very much. great segment. coming up, brand-new developments in the michael brown shooting case out in ferguson, missouri. police now look at a new piece of evidence possibly giving a clearer picture of what went down that day. >> that would help. and tony stewart still mia from the racetrack since the spring car crash that killed a fellow racer. ryan reed joins us live to weigh in on that and also racing with diabetes, all that and more. ♪ ♪u98ñ ú1en%ú;
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day. >> we sure have. we have more to bring you right now. ainsley earhart joins us with the headlines. >> thank you. new audio recording claims to have captured the very moment that officer darren wilson opened fire on the 18-year-old. on that recording which has not been verified or widely released, 11 shots are allegedly fired. an autopsy shows brown was hit six times. this as thousands gathered inside a st. louis church paying final respects, family, friends, celebrities and strangers among the reverend al sharpton calling for justice in a wild speech criticizing police. >> this is about justice. this is about sadness. it's time to;dx deal with poli. justice is gonna come. justice is gonna come! >> a grand jury set to resume hearing evidence tomorrow to
determine if the officer will be charged. this as the f.b.i. interviews witnesses as part of a justice department investigation. a football player turns hero when he jumps into action, literally, to save his nephew's life. josh shaw, star defensive back for the university of southern california, was at his cousin's house when all of a sudden his 7-year-old nephew started drowning in the pool down below. shaw jumped off a second story balcony onto the concrete to finally pull that boy to safety. shaw sprained both of his ankles, forcing him to be sidelined. but despite the risk to his season, as well as his career, shaw says he would do it all over again. the iconic line from "jaws" you're going to need a bigger boat, written in the sand. this morning after a great white was spotted yards from the shore line at a massachusetts beach. it's believed to be 15 feet long. swimmers were kept out of the water for two hours. the beach is now back open with a warning, swim at your own
risk. a florida man sour on a boy's lemonade stand. he e-mailed city hall at least four times about this 12 yearly's business in an attempt to shut it all down. he claims the lemonade stand is illegal and brings lots of noise and trash. the little entrepreneur, t.j., joined us earlier and says that is not the case. >> it does kind of make me upset, the fact that he's kind of lying because nobody does that. but everybody else has supported me so much, so that just brings me right back up. >> t.j. says that he's been hard at work running that stand for two years now to help his mother pay her bills. remember using netscape to browse the internet? yep. well, kids started college this year, they do not remember that. the deloitte college put out a list to show how different life is for those kids born in 1996.
any time that they see wired rim glasses, they say they think of harry potter. not john lennon. and the pound button on the phone is now called the hashtag button. those are your headlines. >> time marches on. thank you very much. in other news, the search continues for a missing 21-year-old montana student. he was last seen a week ago today wrapping up his summer job as a guide at cascade raft and kayak in horseshoe bend, idaho. he was headed to his student orientation at the university of montana, but he never showed up. this morning new surveillance footage from a chevron gas station 20 minutes from where he was last seen is helping searchers narrow down the search area. kenneth long is the owner of kayak raft and -- cascade raft
and kayak where he was last seen and he joins us live this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i understand that lucius worked for you the last two summers at your family 4÷ busin. when he took off last tuesday, what did he say? >> you know, he said good-bye to everybody. he said that he was going to take a two-day drive up to montana for college and that he was excited to get up there and get going. >> so if he said he was going to take a couple of days to drive up there. and we've got this image from the chevron gas station in garden valley, idaho,$ñ i know that folks were unsure which route he might have taken. the fact that he's seen near that gas station tells you what? >> it tells us that he took one of two;ñ&ñ possible routes to go montana. so it makes the search area --
cuts it in half. it takes out the north route on highway 55 and allows us to look moore toward the garden valley, lowman area as opposed to wondering which direction that he went. >> all right. so they narrowed it down by half. so if he said as he was setting out, i'm going to take two days to drive to college, does that mean he would have been planning on doing some hiking along the way or some camping? did he have the supplies -- did he have a tent or would he just have stayed there in his subaru legacy? >> no, he definitely should have had the supplies. he was camping all summer, most of the -- we have a camp ground that we provide for the guys. so they do camp most of the summer. so he would have broken down his camp and presumably had all of that stuff in his car. so he definitely would have had those supplies. >> i understand some of the staff there at your place is actually helping in the search,
right? >> that is correct. yeah. many of the staff who have not left for their college for the winter have been looking in some of the camp grounds in the vicinity and driving up and down some of the forest service roads where he could have potentially gone off and maybe done hiking or kayaking. >> let's hope they're able to locate him safely. and he just lost track of the time in high country. >> absolutely. >> kenneth long, the owner of cascade raft and kayak, thank you very much. by the way, if anybody watching has any information, we're going on the screen, if you could just back the teleprompter up. it was the boise county sheriff's office, the telephone number is 208-392-4411. brian and elisabeth, outside to
you. >> he has now missed his third race since the death of ken ward, junior. joining us right now is somebody special. >> ryan reed, we are so thankful that you're here. saw you on twitter yesterday and as brian just mentioned, a lot of talk about tony stewart aft%[ he went intod4 kevin ward, junir from potentially all angles to see what his intent was. what's your gut instinct there in terms of what happened? >> yeah. thoughts and prayers go out to both sides. that's an awful situation. i wasn't there. tape. but i wasn't there, so it's really hard to form an opinion. but thoughts and temporaries go out. >> do you think tony will be back racing? >> i hope so. he's a great racer. i have a lot of respect for him. but like i said, thoughts and prayers. >> people thought about chaining things, you're not going to be able to walk on the track. is that something you look forwardw5 to? >> i think it's probably a good rule.
i know that tempers flare and it's easy to hop out of the car and show your displeasure. i think all in all it's a good rule. >> you're 21-years-old, you've been racing since you were five, maybe? >> four. >> four. gosh. that's incredible. you're doing this and you have an excessive responsibility. you had diabetes, diagnosed three years ago? >> at 17 years old. >> there is somebody on your pit crew who can do what for you? >> giti je an insulin injection during a pit stop if needed. >> that's incredible. what a group to have behind you at all times. does it make it more difficult for you or just sort of another bump in the road? >> there isnjfw definitely challenges. it's definitely been a transition. i raced before i was diagnosed and afterment it's been a transition, but i have a great sports team withç doctors and american diabetes association, they're all behind me. so i know that i can do it with all their help. it's been a lot of fun. >> you're 9th in the point
standings right now. you're going to be racing atlanta this weekend. >> yep. >> you look so young. even though you're 20, you look so young. do you ever have trouble getting on the track? >> no. luckily i have a hard card that says i'm a driver. that makes it easier to get in and out of the track. being young. you have to earn your keep, i guess. >> some of the veterans give you a hard time? >> oh, yeah. >> is this the car you're racing? >> not this exact one, but it looks just like it. >> do you mind if and i take a trip in it? >> go for it. >> look at this. take a look inside this car. explain here, when you're sitting, you have the protection around your head. do you have anything in here for yourself in terms of diabetic rescue or is it just your pit crew? >> no. i have a monitor on the dash. i wireless monitor my blood sugar on the dash.
>> we wish you well. thanks for stopping by. >> congratulations. >> steve, tell me what you have planned for the last 25 minutes. >> we've got a fox news alert. northern california just hit with another aftershock from the 6 earthquake. we are live with the latest on the ground from napa where that video was taken a couple of days ago. then they showed up forsesz wafs and then they got toasted with the unlimbed cocktails. now neighbors are fighting back by taking pictures of the boozey brunchers. sounds like i've had a couple. is that legal? ♪ ♪
fox news alert. out of napa, california, rick
reichmuth just felt an aftershock. i'm looking at the national weather service. they say it's a 3.9o7b magnitude american canyon, california. >> exactly. the initial earthquake was about six kilometers from that area, napa valley fault line, which is exactly where this winery where we are is. so this aftershock right in the exact same area. 3.9. we moved out of this area with these barrels. you see the barrels that had toppled over during the initial quake. now if anything had resettled with this, we just came out here to be more safe. >> we talked before about an early warning system being in the works. do you have any updates on that? >> reporter: yeah. it's a really fascinating project that's out there. there is a way -- the speed at which a wave from an earthquake moves through the land that can actually get digitally signal out and warnings to people before that wave hits them. so during this earthquake that
just occurred two days ago, they got ten seconds notice of the system in a test. they believe that there is capacity that they could give people as much as 40 seconds advance notice of an earthquake coming, which could get people out of elevators, could get fire trucks to be able to open their doors so they could get out of their fire department, could allow people to get into safe spots in their houses. we talked yesterday to somebody from the usgs. take a listen to what he said about how this works. >> the early warning system uses sensors spread out all over the state and it detects earthquakes very, very rapidly, determines their size and their location and can actually send alert messages out faster than the seismic waves are moving. so you can get a warning before the seismic waves reach your location. >> reporter: yeah. this is super important, potentially really life saving. the problem is they need funding. they need congress to potentially get funds out there to get this system in place.
california obviously the threat of a big earthquake and it's something they hope they can maybe get funding out and get this in place just in time. guys? >> sounds like it would take at least $80 million, where does that come from? rick reichmuth live in napa where this just had a 3.9 aftershock. 11 minutes before the top of the hour. sign of the times, the majority of americans want to make it illegal for kids to go to the playground by themselves. should a walk in the park really be a crime for the parents? we asked you to send an e-mail. you've done it. first let's check in with martha mccallum. she promised to tell us what's on her show. >> who grew up playing by myself in the park. >> we all did. >> good morning. big show coming up today. the u.s. has now begun drone and surveillance in the skies over syria. so what happens next? general jack keane will tell us. and the white house tries to back pedal the jv characterization of isis. and the real shark week gets
underway as a 15-foot great white is spotted off the coast, when we see you at the top of theño' hour.
some quick headlines for you. a top model in court for stealing chocolate bars from whole foods. the dutch beauty was told by the judge to stand up straight and uncross her arms. since she's never left the store with the bars, she was given probation, then she told reporters to watch for her at fashion week. and one new york neighborhood is up in arms over the boozey patrons from an all you can eat brunch. footage posted on youtube shows patrons hunched over, falling on the ground and this is all before 3 p.m management says they are working
to fix the problem. >> it's not the all you can eat part that's the problem. it's all you can drink, 'cause it's a bottomless mimosa or floody mary. >> yes. >> the restaurants are trying to dilute the drink. >> or people can get familiar with their own limits. >> maybe. but when it's free, you know. >> of course you're talking about chris chulo. that's a message to you. >> recent magazine did a survey. remember it wasn't long ago a south carolina woman was thrown in jail because she let her nine-year-old go to the playground unsupervised. well, this new poll, about 70% of you support a law that would require kids under nine years old to be supervised and if they do go there alone, the parent would get in trouble. really? 70% of you? >> and for the 12s? >> 43% thought 12-year-olds should be supervised the entire
time. we asked you what you thought about that. here is what you said. heather wrote, didn't realize we were so incapable of raising our own kids now. >> looks like it. >> i get the sarcasm. >> donald white on facebook says, i have to say times are much different now. most parks are not safe for even adults. it's not the world i knew as a child. >> i think a lot of it's hype. mike says this on twitter, if unsupervised kids in the park was an unenforced crime in the 350s and '60s, my mom would still northbound jail. every case is different. remember the mom who said go out and do something. when the lights come off, come back. >> a college professor said i doubt there has ever been a human culture that ever understatements children than we do in our culture today. >> one for the road after this. we're look for you. oas÷
before we're history, tennessee pulling out all the stops to recruit a top football prospect. they sent him a photo shopped rolling stone magazine next to beyonce. she's not really next to him. but they're hoping that will help him decide to go there. right now he's undecided. >> still undecided. junk food sales marketing saying eating carrots is just as much fun as eating doritos. grocery stores creating new kid friendly snacking selections. tiger woods may be the best golfer ever, but he needs to get his game back together and he's fired his swing coach, sean foley. this after he won 13 times two years ago. the question is, will he go back and hire his first coach when he won eight majors but never paid him? >> good question. >> by the way, yesterday we had
jim courier on our program where we played for $100. jim had 100 bucks and the winner was going to get to keep it. we won. i left it in my pocket. i actually have jim courier's dough. >> party! fox news confirming u.s. spy planes are flieght skies over syria possibly preparing form s. airstrikes against isis in syria. eric: i'm eric in for bill hemmer. syria asking the u.s. ask permission before launching any attacks. >> repte
the rangers will host the flyers. avalanche with the wild. "way too early" -- and "morning joe" starts right now. you can do whatever you want. the little i ask you is not to promote it and not to bring him to my games. >> black people can't attend his games. [ boos ] >> i couldn't have said that better myself. >> folks, i'm shocked that sterling would perpetuate the cruel stereotype that white people are genetically superior at basketball spectating. [ laughter ] >> oh, let me guess because our muscular skeletal structure makes it easier for us to pump cheese. that is racist. and everyone has expressed outrage, folks. even the clippers players made a statement. >> clippers players staged a
silent protest dumping their uniforms on court and wearing the jersey inside out and concealed the clippers logo. >> they concealed the beloved logo of the clippers which we all know is -- [ laughter ] >> i want to say a guy getting a hair cut or -- [ laughter ] a toenail clipper with googly eyes. [ laughter ] good morning. it's wednesday, april 30th. good to have you on "morning joe" on this beautiful day. >> it's may tomorrow. >> oh, gosh. it's so cold. and lots of terrible storms across the country. we'll be talking about that soon. also, barack obama and obamacare, yet another poll out. this time, nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. well we'll see how that lines up
with the abc news/"washington post" poll. it wasn't great use. plus, did you guys see this, "star wars" -- do we have any "star wars" nerds on the set? >> yes, i'm old school. i wasn't triled with the trilogy but old school "star wars" yes. >> how about they're bringing back harrison ford, mark hamill and carrie fisher. all three in the seventh "star wars" movie. >> this was in a reading yesterday. a script reading yesterday. you can see harrison ford to the right of j.j. abrams. carrie fisher two over at 3:00. mark hamill at about 10:00, 11:00 o'clock on your screen as well. mark, are you a "star wars" nerd? >> i'm looking for jar jar banks. >> no jar jar banks. >> i like it fine. i have no figurines. >> george lucas has been banned,
i think, from this. r 2 did 2 is going there, too. 30 years after the end. of "return of the jedi" 1983. no darth, though, he's gone. >> yeah. >> can they bring him back now? >> no. >> it's "star wars" assisted living. >> no they had that ghost scene at the end. >> flashbacks. >> i think billy madison, too. they yeed a bobby ewing situation. it was all a dream. anyway, mike barnicle, msnbc and "time" senior political analyst, mark hamillton, and the reverend al sharpton in d.c., anchor for news america and co-author of "the confidence
code" ckatty kay, why don't you get us started. >> i'm just worried about that -- >> that's a very bbc look. with the hair on both sides. >> no, let's get a look at news. after promise due process by donald sterling, nba commissioner silver delivered a swift response to the racist remarks. >> the views expressed by mr. sterling are deeply offensive and harmful. that they came from an nba owner only heightens the damage in my personal outrage. accordingly, effective immediately, i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the clippers organization or the nba. >> okay. so what this means, in practice is, no practice, no games. he cannot be at the clippers facility or weigh in on any personnel decisions. he can have no interaction with
the team he owns ever again. that's on top of a maximum $2.5 million fine. that's pretty nominal considering that his estimated net worth is around $1.9 billion. but the question of how long sterling will own the clippers is also in doubt. >> i will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. >> sterling has reportedly told fox news jim gray that the team is not for sale. and he will not be selling the team. with that said, several groups do appear to be interested in purchasing the team with bidding expected to exceed $1 billion. magic johnson, boxer floyd mayweather jr. and david geffen are all said to be among the interested parties. farce the actual team the clippers had to prepare for game five of their playoff series
against the golden state warriors. following commissioner silver's announcement, the team posted this message on their website simply reading "we are one." and last night, the game began without delay. something that almost didn't happen. both the warriors and clippers and possibly the other four teams playing last night were all reportedly going to boycott last night's games if they were unsatisfied with silver's ruling. >> willie geist, the nba moved very quickly. everybody is talking about the hammer dropping on this guy. they really didn't have much of a choice, did they? >> no, adam silver did the right thing. what's to know about him, people say, oh, my gosh, he's only been on the job for three months. he's been at the nba for 23 years. he serve ted right hand of david stern. he knew this league. he did it the right way. he authenticated the tape. he made sure he had all the information. he did pretty much the maximum that he's able to do.
he needs three quarters of the owners to vote. that would be the last piece of the puzzle. >> the guy has 1 but $8 billion, mike barnicle, he doesn't plan to move anywhere. >> donald sterling is a very litigious person. he sueden officer whatever left, business. the nba is probably getting ready to go to course against donald sterling. they will win. they'll force him out before they get to court. >> one of the reasons, al, that it the nba had to do what the nba had to do is because they sat by and let this guy act in about hornet way since the early 1980s. long of the owner of the clippers. everybody knew this guy was, very least, racially insensitive. he'd been sued by elgin baylor. everybody knew the nature of this guy. nba had to move quickly, didn't
they? >> they did. i think they made a very bold and appropriate move. but i think the question that you raise is one that we're faced with now. i haven't been watching because last night, leaders of those and heads of civil rights groups met in the congressional black caucus chair to talk about how do we make sure that there are things put in place in the nba that we make sure these kinds of things doesn't happen again. so as they go through forcing the sale and whatever litigation comes up, what are we going to put in place where a sterling doesn't reoccur? we can't keep going from incident to incident. we must really build in the infrastructure, box of where we are. we're in a time now where you have gays now playing in pro ball. you have all kinds of inclusion. we cannot have a league or any kind of sports where you don't have in-built mechanisms to vet these things out and avoid these
things from happening. >> no doubt about it. we're going to be talking about this throughout the three hours at 8:00. at the top at 8:00, bob costas is going to be here. katty, let's move on to polling. bad news in the form of a abc news/"washington post" poll, now, nbc is out and gives us more ideas on whether the bad numbers on obamacare or the president were outriders or not? >> yeah, it doesn't look good. the brand-new polls from the nbc news and the "wall street journal." overall, 40%. 50% disapprove of how he's handling his job. compare those numbers from the abc news and "washington post" poll, it puts the president deeper under water. 41% to 55%. that's the lowest approval since the start of his presidency.
36% say the law is a good idea. that's up one point from last month. 46%, still, though, say it's a bad idea. the abc news poll has the law upside down. 44% approval, 48% disapproval. on foreign policy, 37% back the president's handling of the situation in ukraine. according to nbc news, that's a six-point drop from last month. by the way, 45% disapprove of his approach. the abc news poll showed similar results, 44% to 36% split. overall, 65% of those polled by nbc news say the country's in the wrong track. while 27% see things moving in the right direction. neither of these polls, joe, looking great for the president.
mark har hall. there's this dissonnence between voters. between "the wall street journal" let's pull back and draw back. and frustration with the president's ukraine policy. it's kind of hard for the white house to square. >> well, it's difficult for any president to be working hard on a foreign policy issue and not having people rallying around him and encouraging him. and that is in the second term, the president would like to be able to show strength because domestically things are frustrated too. there's not a lot of good things to say from the president's point of view. it suggests the midterms are going to be a big problem. and it suggests that he's not going to be able to get a lot done if the numbers stay like this. the things he wants to do, immigration, climate change require a strong president.
>> how connected is -- for people that don't follow it closely, how connect said the president's approval rating to results in the midteller election? >> it's probably the thing that people think is the biggest indicator. if the numbers are as they are now, the water will have a hard time doing well. the danger is that these numbers are artificially high in the sense that the president's big on support. going about as low as he ever gets in any poll since he took office. the problem is a lot of that support comes from places where we weren't seeing contested races. his numbers are lower than the national number in arkansas, north carolina. >> louisiana, alaska. >> and even iowa. and other places. colorado where the battleground senate race, and the governors races are. the white house needs the president to be in a stronger position by november. these numbers suggest he's got a lot of work to do. the more he works on foreign policy, again, david axelrod has made this point, the harder it is for the country to rally and feel better about him because they're just not interested as the journal points out.
>> and we heard a couple weeks ago that obamacare, affordable care act, $8 million is going to cause a big uptick on this. but right now that doesn't seem to be the case. >> we talked about it yesterday with the abc poll that it at 44%. now the nbc poll says 36% think the health care law is a good thing. and democrats were going on to run on it in certain races but still largely unpopular. >> to my eye, the most vulnerable point of this poll, the most dangerous point of this poll, midterm elections or to the presidency itself is the 63% wrong track number. that's it. it's a pretty big number. >> it's been stubbornly high. you'd like to think with were a president with accomplishments it would be lower. but it's stubbornly high. >> no doubt about it, again, we'll see, though, the president
has been to the low to mid-40s. and everybody was preaching doom. read the op-eds in december of 2011. i saved a couple of them. they're pretty funny to read. talking about the disaster that was going to befall barack obama. you're right, there is a base. he's not going to go in the low 30s and 20s like george w. bush. >> or the mid-30s. that 40% of the country love or is with him. >> so, this will turn out to be, at the end of the day, a turnout operation. if the midterms -- the 54s are older and wider and more conservative as they are. in every midterm election there will be problems if the obama administration can turn out what they're able to turn out as far as the turnout operations in '08 and '12, they've got a shot of holding the senate. >> well, what do you do to
stimulate the turnout in younger voters the way they did in '08 and now? >> i don't think they're going to. >> there's another piece of replicating the obama model. you're right, one, turn out operation and get the coalition ascended to turn out. the other is to destroy the republican candidates the way they destroyed mitt romney. >> it's going to be hard to destroy that. like the koch brothers it's not going to work. >> it's not going to work not because of the koch brothers, it's not going to work because these congressmen and senators get a chance to get in front of voters. it gets so hard to nationalize these elections. >> well, the democrats try not to maximize it. it's to cherry pick every individual republican and to to do opposition research and say what can we do to disqualify this person? make them a koch brother ally, whatever it is. that's their hope. and it's their best hope.
because if it is nationalized, if it is a battle of the economy and affordable care act, the democrats will lose. coming up on "morning joe," we've got a lot to talk about. bob costas on his ideas on how the nba can force donald sterth to sell his team. he's going to be at 8:00 eastern. and david axelrod. governor tim pawlenty and dr. brzezinski will be here. also, i want to talk about what happened in oklahoma last night. absolutely horrific. coming up next on the "political playbook" a decision whether to hold vote. and struck in legislative limbo. also news you can't use. but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast, bill? >> joe, i know you have such a great interest in families and friends in the pensacola area. they've never seen a flood like this, joe. there's people down there saying
how horrible this is. and we're talking about, you know, the water records go back at least 60 to 70 years. and the flooding going on right now is worse than any hurricane we've seen. i mean, that's how bad it is. the totals that we've seen are upwards of one to two feet of rain in the pensacola area since last night. and the last 24 hours. mobile has been very bad. they had a lot of water rescues there. look at this image, joe. this is downtown pensacola last night. water on the sidewalks at least two feet deep. as we go throughout the day, these pictures will come in. 10 is closed throughout the region. you cannot travel on it. there are cars stuck for six to eight hours. they literally can't go anywhere. there's a river rung over i-10 to pensacola. again, this is all associated with that same storm system that brought us tornadoes in the last couple of days. we got away with that. here's one of the pictures from rob mcgayen.
24.4 inches of rain for this event. two feet of rain just northwest of downtown pensacola. we did see tornados in eastern north carolina. thankfully, we didn't who's any lives with those. if you're on the east coast from new england to the mid-atlantic, a lot of rain today. a lot of airport delays. but it shoun be too bad as far as tornadoes are concerned. just a few strong storms. i'll continue to give you yip updates from north florida with historic flooding as we go through the morning on "morning joe." we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] the wright brothers started in a garage. mattel started in a garage. disney started in a garage. amazon started in a garage. ♪ the ramones started in a garage. my point? some of the most innovative things in the world come out of american garages. introducing the lighter, faster cadillac cts.
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." you know, willie, a shot of mika there -- where is mika there -- >> cannes. >> for the festival? >> yeah. >> she's got a film? >> does she really? >> yeah. documentary on vacations in the south of france. >> no cats around the house. remember when she had the cat in here? >> yeah.
>> cat in the bag. cats in the bag. >> cats out of the bag. >> whoo! what a story. >> it is. >> it's a story of transformation coming of age. >> in the south of france? >> yeah. >> i think you better call mika and let her know if she's aware of this or not. "the new york times" say prosecutors are close to filing charges against the world's biggest banks, chris bank suisse is under fire for offering tax shelters and bnb paribas. feds say it's to finish banks without putting them out of business. and twitter's stock hits a new low. despite the fact that the service actually added 14 million monthly active users.
and its revenue nearly doubled in the first quarter. stocks were down 10% in afterhours trading. this may be a sign that twitter is to remain a niche service. and "usa today," federal governments could lose $47 billion if congress fails to add to the highway trust fund. the money currently in the fund goes only to existing projects. the funding comes from the federal tax on gas and diesel fuel. but that has not been raised since 1993. >> great for the country's infrastructure. "the new york times" a top international olympic committee official says the preparations for the 2016 summer olympics in rio are, quote, the worst he has experienced. the comments add to mounting concerns the country's not prepared to host the event without international assistance. it also comes just weeks, of course, before the country is set to host the world cup.
the ioc will send outside experts to monitor progress in brazil. i was down in rio recently, they say it's all going to be fine, on time and budget, willie. >> so, katty, do you believe that? are you going to go down with your family and just kind of hang out in rio and watch the world cup? >> wouldn't it be great to be there for the final in rio? for the world cup? even if it was chaos, it would be great. >> i do not know i'd want to take my 5-year-old. >> different type of chaos. we're in search of a different kind of chaos. yeah, the question is, why brazil hosts the world cup in '14, the olympics in '16, it's clearly not ready. >> certainly on the world cup, some of the stadiums just don't look like they're going to be ready on time. >> and the olympics, the inside word is they say we're going to start on the olympics. let's get through the world cup. well, that leaves you less than two years to get ready for the olympics. it it will be a scramble but it always is with the olympics.
>> it comes as a shock. i think when they were awarded we thought no problem. >> just like russia's putin that went smoothly. and mr. halperin, the play on veep i'm sure you heard that mr. allen. let's talk business. harry reid said democrats are holding talks about a vote to prove the keystone pipeline. is that actually going to happen? >> they're actually going to have a vote. and this is a real surprise. it's a sign of how worried democrats are about the senate. yesterday, i was out at the milken conference in los angeles, did a poll, including a lot of democrats, asking them what they thought the chances were republicans could take every 0 the senate. nate silver said around 60%.
dave leonhart said around 61%. the democrats i talked to said it's more like 60%. they are worried about a republican senate. so you have harry reid saying he might take a vote on approving the keystone pipeline. what's not determined is, will this be something that's binding will this be more a sense of the senate, as they call it. but the key fact, 11 senate democrats have signed a letter to president obama saying they want him to approve it by the end of may. there's a bunch of states where democrats are in danger where a voter for the keystone pipeline would help. >> mark, a manufacturing base of america, a transformation of
this economy when we become the number one producer of oil by 2020 according to "the wall street journal." natural gas just exploding. democrats really could be on the wrong side of history here. i just get the sense, in my gut, that the most ideological wing of his party is going to sit back and fight and scratch and claw. and you see it already, them trying to stop the president from approving keystone. and i think most americans are going to go, jobs? cheaper energy prices? an increase in the manufacturing base? i just -- you know, the ideologues go, keystone is only going to create three jobs and these just outrageous claims. and i don't think americans buy it. i don't think most americans buy it. >> not just most americans but a lot of democrats in congress who are on the far left of the party agree with the things you just
listed. look, there's substantive issues here. it's hard for a weak president to get anything substantive through. they want to do something on energy efficiency. some people want to do keystone. i don't think it will have an effect on the midterms. i don't believe it's the energy package we need to bring about the energy revolution you're talking about. but you're right, the white house to some extent is on the wrong side of this politically. and harry reid is crafting as he always does to get them in a better place. i don't think it's a big deal for the republicans, i really don't. >> reverend sharpton, no approval, no decision, what do you think? >> i think mark is right. i really don't think it is going to be all of that, either way. but i think it's going to be the political football that harry reid has got to play in terms of taking it off the table. so it doesn't appear to be something that is really is not. if it were to pass. it could be used in the
elections. and in a negative way, against the democrats. the environmental concerns and all of that that many have is a question of who can outmessage the other. it's better to take it off the table, and that harry reid can have a vote that really doesn't impact one way or the other. it takes it out of the politics. midterm elections is about turning out your base. polls are good, but it's turning out your base. and i think the more you can avoid things that really have no impact and drive your base up, that's who's going to win the midterm elections. i think democrats will have to say to their voters we won't be able to confirm, cabinet members if some of the cabinet members leave early. if we get a supreme court, we can't confirm people they go and argue what's at stake here if we lose the senate, they could drive out their base. >> mike allen, it's kind of interesting as the reverend was pointing out how the
environmental concerns about the pipeline has been mooted over the past six or seven months in the quake of what joe was playing out, energy and jobs. >> that's right, it's partly because i think people in washington have assumed for a long time, all the signals that came out of the white house during the last campaign was that they eventually would approve this. they've now pushed it back past the election. i was surprised, the new "rolling stone" has a long piece about this saying the president finally gets it on the environment. the president is finally doing real things on climate. the sources in that "rolling stone" article say that they think the president will eventually reject that. this is a definite unknown. a definite mystery, in washington, something we don't often have. but i agree with the reverend. this is about cover. giving the democrats cover. they're trying everything because they're worried. >> mike allen with a look at the "playbook" we'll see you. >> do you think there's going to be a "playbook" reference in the
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welcome back to "morning joe." time for some sports. we've got governor tim pawlenty to talk politics and all the rest. he's such a sports nut, we thought he'd led him do sports. >> good morning. >> warriors/clippers. we talked about the pregame. and sterling banned for life. deandre jordan leading the way, 25-18. the clippers got it over golden state. saluting the crowd on the way out. a 3-2 series lead.
head coach doc rivers spoke about the team drama surrounding this game. >> i thought, you know, you could see them get tired a lot. i thought that was from all the emotional, you know, baggage the last four days. you think it's just the players. it was the fans, too. everybody was going through this. it was almost like everybody wanted to exhale tonight. and it was good. >> that's a great coach. and a lot of it around this table know a great man too helped his team weather the last four days. >> an important footnote, the story is well covered and of course, sterling's an idiot. some learned lessons from rim, the grace and care and balance that he reflected and maturity through all of this, doc rivers is a real diplomat for basketball. >> you know that mike barnicle, you spent a lot of time around him. >> the grizzlies playing the thunder in game five. okc down two in the final seconds. >> 15 seconds to play.
70 to shoot. 5 to shoot for conley, off the screen of gasol. westbrook picks his pocket the other way. four seconds remaining. score time at 90. >> russell westbrook rips mike conley. ties the game into overtime. memphis has the lead. final seconds, thunder gets one last chance. >> coming to the ball, durant. for the three, backed up by butler. rolled in. it rolled in at the buzzer. the thunder think they have won the ball game. bill spooner says no goal. and again, they will review. they're going to need a more definitive look. well, no, they don't. they say no basket. memphis has won game five. >> wow. >> that would have been the game-winning basket for oklahoma city. waived off. memphis wins 100-99, they're up
3-2 in that series. wizards beat up the bulls. they won that series. 4-1. they'll get the pacers or the hawks. the way it's looking, it's going to be the hawks. the pacers will be dreadful. let's get to hockey. game six against the rangers. phillies, scoring three goals, hat trick. 5-2 over the rangers. they head back to new york for the deciding game. another upsetting game. governor pawlenty's got his eyes on this one. >> if you're going to say minnesota, you can't emphasize the "i" you got to drag your "o." >> forgive he. >> against colorado it's been a great series. i'm hoping for minnesota. patrick wild, the new head coach, has done a great job.
every team has won on the home ice except the last game. >> who's your favorite of the playoff teams? >> the minnesota wild, chicago is looking great. i thought the st. louis blues, chicago's looking good. i got to say boston bruins, even though first half of the year, even they looked wobbly, they've come on strong. if i had to predict, i'd say chicago and boston again. >> willie, packed last night, a lot of people looking for two games. of course, jeter's final game it's going to be huge. cano coming back to new york. seriously, you know, i always go in the subway to go up to see the kids at the orphanage, uptown, i could not get on there because of so many people going to the game. >> was it emotional? >> it was. it was a cleansing, you know for three hours. >> like bronx sardines. grizzly night. is it still april? >> it feels like a minnesota.
former yankee robinson cano left the team in the off-season as many of you know made his return to the bronx last night with the seattle mariners, here's the welcome he received. look at these people. >> here comes robinson cano. robinson cano. >> there's three people there. >> the top of the first. it was raining last night. >> look at these seats in april. >> cano went 1 for 5. >> look at the seats. >> corey hart on the right. >> la, la, la -- >> they won 6-3. sparse turnout, cold, rainy. >> look at that. small market. >> well, there are only 20 million people in the metro. how could they fill that? >> same with the mets. obviously, this market is not big enough to support that. >> that photograph was tweeted
out by colin barnacle, the son of mike barnicle, rubbing it in the face of the yankees. >> 8,000 seat's -- by the way, i agree, going to atlanta, that looks like it looked when bob warner would hit a foul ball or dale murphy down the right field line. and we would zip down, we'd race from home plate, i'm serious, all the way to right field, going after the ball. >> that's how it was being a mets fan in the late '80s. you'd yell to your buddy across the arena, hey, jeff, after the game! >> yeah, that's what it's like being a yankees fan. still ahead on "morning joe," what is next for the clippers now that the nba is looking to force a sale of the team? how hard is donald sterling going to fight this thing. we'll talk to bob costas, neil
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♪ look at that. welcome back to "morning joe." we have mark halperin. you were dissecting the presidential race. >> this man knows a lot about the presidential race. >> he misses nothing. we're going to send to you ladbrokes and put new charge of the wagering machine. >> it came from mika's "must
read" opinion pages. she sent it to us. katty, mika has picked out a tough maureen dowd op-ed about barack obama. >> yeah, maureen dowd writes in "the new york times" is barry whiffing, stop whining mr. president, and stop whiffing. we understand it's frustrating you're dealing with some really evil guys and some really nutty polls but that being said, you are the american president and the american president should not perpetually use the word "eventually." an an american president should never say as did you monday in manila, you hit singles, you hit doubles, every once in a while, we may be able to hit a home run. once you like to have the stage, mr. president to have the aura of the lone man in the arena, not sharing the spotlight with others.but now when captured alone in the picture, you seem disconnected and adrift what
happen to crushing it and swigging for the fences? what have you gone, babe ruth? >> tim pawlenty, does not seem to be pleased with barack obama leadership right now. >> when you have maureen dowd, you're losing her and you're a democrat, that's not a good sign. the president hasn't been at his high-water mark. he needs to crystallize issues or some issues are going to crystallize him. >> she's obviously talking about ukraine. republicans have been critical of the president. obviously, most people in the republican party don't want to get involved militarily. >> i think with respect to foreign policy, you can't run it by polls. joe, there's dissonance. there's a chunk of the country that wants less engagement. the president has to put the first principle first which is to keep the nation safe and let the polls decide whether that was right. obviously, not going to deploy
the military in the ukraine but dr. brzezinski and others have said, we need to be more aggressive with the sanctions, frankly with the europe mean allies including germany. and we need to dial up the heat. it's the message that gets sent to russia with respect to iran. it's the message with respect to syria. it's the message sent to russia with respect to the nuclear arms negotiation and defense. it has a cascading effect. if you show a bully weakness, and you give them weakness, they'll take it. >> where do you stand in the right year for substantively take that on? >> i'm a supporter of reform, mark, but we're not going to get it done this year. it's going to fill into 2014. unfortunately. republicans should, if you're going to talk the talk of being the working class if we have a minimum wage, it should be reasonably adjusts from time to
time, for all the republicans who talk about we're the blue color and for the workers there should be basic things that they're for, and that's one of them increases in the minimum wage. >> before we go, you heard the conversation, i won't talk about everything you guys discussed. but jeb bush, is jeb going have to trouble getting through? >> well, the classic question can a quote/unquote established candidate get through a an increasingly conservative party. people say, no, it can never happen. in mccain's case a compelling personal story and a gritty performance. in mitt romney case, obviously a man of great talent but tremendous resources and infrastructure. jeb can do that but it's not going to be uncontested in so many runs. >> that last name is going to be tough. >> party has shifted. it's not so much the tea party. it's a libertarian wing that paul represents. you wouldn't have predicted
mccain or romney won last time. they did. >> thank you so much, governor. >> on the nomination. >> exactly. story of my life. coming up, a lesson for tv anchors. now, i didn't know this, willie. don't tease the monkey. >> socrates said that. >> socrates? >> yeah. >> goes all the way back to the 18th century. our priority has always been saving the day. because our priority... amazing! ...is you! the amazing spider-man 2 delivered by the united states postal service. [ banker ] sydney needed some financial guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options. her valuable assets were staying. and selling her car wouldn't fly.
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>> we know that. >> mika pulled the cat out of the bag. changed the whole dynamic of the show. yesterday morning, deborah duncan is hosting "great day america" in khu in houston. >> i love that show. >> they bring out a live monkey. >> what can go wrong? >> do you want to co-host with me? ahh! oh! >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to tease you. i didn't mean to tease you. >> i think you just got popped by a monkey. >> i did. >> she took the punk very well. >> i think it goes back to the defensive position. that's impressive. boom. >> that's frazier. >> it is. it's a left hook. got to get him off of you a little bit, get some space. >> i'll tell you what, after that, i'd be too exhausted to even watch like "wheel of
fortune." >> you didn't see will last night? >> no, what happened? >> okay. let's see if you at home would solve this puzzle as difficult as one contestant. >> "m" -- >> yes, there is an "m." >> not that it will do any good. both halves. >> i'd like to solve the puzzle -- >> okay. >> boozing my shore excursion? >> no. josh? >> i'd like to solve the puzzle. booking my shore excursion. [ laughter ] >> what did you think? -- >> she had booze on the brain. boozing -- what in the world? >> she's fun on a vacation. >> oh, my. by the way, pat sajak. he's the dick clark of our time. he doesn't look old.
>> absolutely. sajak, until you get him out of that format, very sneaky, subversive guy. >> and a big baseball guy. >> can i offer a nugget. vanna white did an ver view i think with "time," she has not once in the 20 some years on the show repeated an outfit. >> really? >> new dress every show. >> it's kind of like me. >> i haven't worn this sweater since -- >> yesterday. >> -- yesterday. coming up at the top of the hour, the nba is now trying to force the clippers owner donald sterling to sell his team. but is everybody on board? >> what donald said was wrong. it was ababhorrent, there's no place for race yichl in the nba. it's a very slippy slope. if it's about race imand we're ready to kick people out of the league, okay, what about homophobia, or somebody that doesn't like a particular
religion. >> that's mark cuban. >> he's sweating. >> i think he was working out or something. also ahead, something happened in oklahoma that had people exploding online and across the country. very passionate reaction. we'll talk about it when we come right back. avo: wherever your journey takes you
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it's unbelievable that donald sterling is so racist even when he's not being racist he still sounds racist take a list. >> the blacks are moving into my neighborhood. i look forward to the chinese it's been in the fridge since last thursday. jew! sorry, my allergies are -- >> and i hate when you but a nee-gro inside of you. those are my patented knee-growing supplements. welcome back. walter isaacson and sports columnist for "the new york times" bill rhodon, and from bristol, connecticut moderates
of espn's "first take" cari champion. thank you so much for being with us. katty, why don't is he go ahead and go to the news and then take it around the table. >> this is getting a lot of attention around the world, joe. after promising due process to donald sterling, nba commissioner adam silver delivered a swift and severe judgment against the owner for his racist remarks. >> the views expressed by mr. sterling are deeply offensive and harmful. that they came from an nba owner only heightens the damage and my personal outrage. accordingly, effective immediately, i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the clippers organization or the nba. >> okay. so what that means is, no practice, no games. he cannot be at the clippers facility or weigh in on any
personnel decisions. he can have no interaction with the team he owns ever again. and that's on top of a maximum $2.5 million fine, pretty nominal really considering his estimated net worth is around $1.9 billion. but the question of how long sterling will own the clippers is now also in doubt. >> i will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team. and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. >> so, bill, sterling has said he's not selling the team. >> yeah. >> he doesn't plan to go anywhere. >> right. >> he's got $1.9 billion. and he loves suing people. this could be a bloodbath for the nba. >> guess what, a lot of owners, everybody is going, yeah, wait a minute, what about me? what happens if -- you got some guys in florida who are supporting an anti-gay campaign. i mean, where does this end?
so now you see a lost owners, cuben is starting to back up saying, yeah, the guy has got it go. but on the other hand, this is kind of a slippery slope. you're right. it's one thing to make this announcement. silver did the only thing he could do. you've got the president weighing in. michael jordan, lebron james. if you did anything other than this, you're going to have a moral train wreck. but now this is where the fun begins legally. because if you know sterling at all, he didn't get to be a billionaire by laying down. you know he's going to fight this. >> right. and cari, nba really didn't have much of a choice, given what's happened with this guy around the front office for years now. but at the same time, the nba -- it might be a lot easier to hold that press conference than actually get him out of that position. >> yeah, that's absolutely right. you see, what we're forgetting is, through all of this, donald sterling has been silent.
he said nothing. and if i were a betting person which i am not, i'm sure he's at home with his legal team deciding the next plan of action. and when we do hear from him, i doubt if he will go quietly into the night. he's not known for that, as mentioned earlier. and there's a lot of different things that we haven't even addressed here. could in fact they transfer ownership to his wife? will the league in fact take over? think of the courts. this is something we could have dragged out in courts for years to come. >> you know, walter, the nba commissioner has banned this guy for life from the league. but you can't ban racism for life. and endemic in our culture, no matter how many times you say we're going to have a conversation about race, we never have that conversation. what does this do, this entire flap do, in your mind to that continuing nagging problem in american culture? >> well, it it can be a good learning experience. i think the president said it
well had he talked about, you know, you have to look at the fact we've had these things happen over the years, over the decades, over the century, but now it's outrageous when it happens. we say, this can't stand. i can remember 20, 30 years ago, somebody would get away with saying something like that. so these things help lance the boil of that. but we should also deepen the conversation a little bit and say, all right, what about the racism that's still hanging around. >> i was going to say, this honl happ only happened because -- you know, it was illegally recorded -- >> that's the way it is in this digital age. >> this guy was allowed to discriminate. >> right. >> for 30 years and nothing was ever said. >> but the good thing we've lanced the boil a bit. and when you talk about the other owners and whether or not they're going to force him to sell, the other owners are going to get away with not forcing him to sell, that will really hurt that owner's reputation. >> you make a great point about
where do we go from here. because, you know, we get so hung up in what he said. you've gone to a lot of press boxes. you can make the same statement, you can say what he said, a lot of different ways. i go in a press box every day. baseball press boxes and football, and it looks like 1955 in terms of no black faces. i tell the players when you get a chance walk through your office. go through the sales office and the public relations department. and what you'll find out people say the same thing that donald sterling said, but they are not clumsy about it, they just do it. >> what we aren't addressing, i think this is really smart. i'm sorry to jump in here but i have to say this, the reason why adam silver came in so hard, guys. this is clear. it's not that it's about sterling, if we think that this is the only person in the nba that feels that way, we're kidding ourselves. and so the reason we're calling this the silver hammer is he's
saying this won't be tolerated anymore. and sterling isn't alone. do we actually think about the person who actually called sterling to tell him what was going on in instagram? it could be someone in the organization. it could be someone else in the league. we have to say i know that he's not alone. that this is continuing to happen. so that's why he had to come down so hard on him. this is still something that's really still an issue in our country. we have a huge problem discussing race. it should be something at the forefront, something that we want to talk about without hiding behind it. >> katty. >> i was going to ask cari, he was banned against those remarks. what did you think the way he was talking to his girlfriend. this guy's attitude both to women and african-americans is just horrendous. >> listen, i grew up in los angeles. i'm a huge lakers fan. but i went to clippers games
anybody in sports within that city, knew this man, ran into this man, his reputation with women is just as atrocious as his behavior. he's known as a womanizer. it's almost as if he was jealous. it was jealousy. it was the racism. it was the how dare you present yourself this way, you're supposed to behave this way as a woman in public. it was very controlling. it was awe the things that you don't want to see in a person. and i don't know if you've heard, the young lady has come out and she is not his girlfriend. she was just a good friend of his. in fact, she feels really bad for him and that they were just buddies. >> i don't have a buddy that buys the luxury that she's in. and gives me range rovers. she says it wasn't that type of relationship. back to the tape. very disturbing how he was so controlling in deciding who she could be with. again, it's bizarre.
>> unbelievable. a buddy that buys a bentley. that's a buddy to have. >> or not to have. espn's cari champion, thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. katty, let's move to oklahoma. officials in oklahoma are look the at last night's botched lethal injection of clayton lockett. lockett was sentenced to death for watching two accomplishes bury a woman in 1999. >> reporter: lockett was said to be executed using a new experimental cocktail of three drugs. when the president administered the first drug, a sedative to lockett. >> at that time, we began approaching the second and third part it's in protocol. there was some concern at that time that the drugs were not having the effect. >> reporter: courtney francis of
nbc station kfor witnessing the execution with other reporters said president officials declared lockett unconscious at 6:33 p.m. but over the next six minutes, eyewitnesses said lockett still appeared conscious and was struggling. >> one of the things he said was "something's wrong." he said "man" at one point. he kept trying to raise up. >> the 6:39, he's still lifting his shoulders and head off the gurney. grimacing. >> reporter: then eyewitnesses said prison officials closed off their window into the chamber putting lockett's execution on hold. >> it sounds as if the vein stopped working after the first drug was given, so that the paralysis and the medication to stop the heart, they just never worked. >> reporter: prison officials said lockett suffered a massive heart attack and died at 7:06 p.m. lockett's lawyer who initially sued the state for refusing to
release information about the prison drugs said prison officials are to blame. >> they wanted to get it done with as little transparency as possible. this is what they get. >> reporter: in a statement, oklahoma governor mary fallin called for a full review of oklahoma's execution procedures. and ordered the execution of a second inmate charles warner to be delayed 14 day. >> joining from us washington senior political editor and from "the washington post" sam stein. sam, this is going to get people taking a closer look at lethal injections which some people, i think, mistakenly believe are somehow more humane. you read the accounts of this. you read the account of the way that -- you know, the states are now scrounging around drug addicts trying to find the right combination of drugs to execute, suddenly it seems like a very shoddy, haphazard way to do things. and what happened to this guy last night, regardless of the
heinous things he did in his life amounts to -- it looks like from the description, amounts to torture. can amount to torture and is clearly unconstitutional. >> yeah, all of that is true. in fact, there's some states where they're having such trouble getting their hands on these cocktails of drugs that they're actually thinking about going back to firing squads and gas chambers which was another story in the ap last year but the big story is the political back job, the governor of the state, governor fallin, had pushed the supreme court to not have a stay of execution. the spreement court had granted a stay for the defense of these two people who committed heinous crimes said they wanted to know what was in the drugs so they could determine whether it was cruel and unusual punishment. the clerk gave them a stay. and then going to instruct to go ahead anyway. >> i have not over the past couple of weeks read the
oklahoma constitution, but i don't think we've studied that in law school in florida. but can a governor just decide on her own that a supreme court decision is null and void? >> well it's complicated. obviously, there's a constitutional crisis at hand. the state's court of appeals have ruled that the stay shouldn't be allowed to happen. and because a weird quirk in the oklahoma court system, she said the court of appeals have the jurisdiction and not the state supreme court. other way, they were on the brink of a prosecution crisis. and the supreme court basically acquiesced and said go ahead with the execution. in fact, one in oklahoma had threatened to bring articles of impeachment for justice on the court for staying the execution. that's how thirsty for the execution some of these lawmakers were. it turns out they did not have proper information how toed asister the drugs. and only now retroactively is the governor saying yeah, we
need to study what's going on here. listen these guys committed heinous crimes they were convicted and sentenced to death. but the politics had pushed for this to happen but it's coming back to biting them. >> the constitution is a constitution is a constitution. >> exactly. >> walter isaacson, this is not a right/left issue as much as it was, say, 30 years ago. you had people pat robertson starting to move against the death penalty and brought in evangelicals over the past several years. this is a case that's going make people -- willie geist and i were just talking on set. >> we're bending overbackwards trying to do all of these things that are not cruel and unusual. you kind of wonder if gary gilmore had it better. that's an older reference. with the sapphiring squad, whether that's not more humane. >> it does make us reflect on the constitution that says no
crucial or unusual punishment. that's something that changes over time. the definition of what's cruel and unusual changes. this will start a conversation again because clearly lethal injection when the drug companies are not going to supply the drug. you don't know where the drugs are coming from. >> by the way, that's important, walter. that's what's causing these problems. the drug companies are now refusing to supply the drugs. and it is causing people to -- >> so you have a group of legislators or a governor who is hell-bent to get something done like that, and then this happens, it's also a conscious center saying this is more complicates. >> we also have to note that just yesterday or two days ago maybe, a study came out that it's likely that 1 out of every 25 people executed by death penalty are probably innocent. so we're actually executing innocent people. this is a bigger conversation that we need to have about how we treat the people on death row. >> i wonder, bill, if in the state of oklahoma and the legislature they have as much
intensity towards education, as they do seemingly some of them are about improving their capital punishment system? >> yeah, first of all, i'm at the point, i think that what this is going to do is reenergize the opposition. this was -- i mean, i'm conflicted also because i'm thinking of the families. >> sure. >> and revenge and no penalty could be terrible. but when you look at 100 years from now, when you look back on our society, and you look at how we deal with each other, the br brutality and punishment. some of this to me is so sad. i'm not necessarily saturday for the guy what he did, just the human quality of this. and again, i wish i had an answer. i wish i knew how to deal with this. >> well, there's one thing, mark, that's always been in the equation when people talk about
capital punishment. of course, the first thing you think about is the victim or victim's family. but in state after state, the lack of true certainty of punishment, in some states you get the death penalty, or you get life in jail, but life in jail means 25 years. the certainty of punishment, life in jail means life in jail. that might do something to resolve this age old thing. >> the bigger issues that bill raised about the victims and the question of the death penalty being administered fairly, all of that needs to be discussed. the governor has to solve this. mary fallin is a national leader. she's a member of congress. the legislatures have rules. courts have rules. she has to begin to unravel went what wrong technically but restore confidence in the justice system because this so undermines what is already a tough issue in the country. >> sam, really quickly, just so everybody knows the guy that was on death row, the guy that had a heart attack last night and died
shot a 19-year-old woman and buried her alive. again, a heinous crime. that said, it's not as if there weren't heinous crimes when our founding fathers drafted the constitution there is a clause that prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. and in this case, again, when you have this chaotic process, where the drug manufacturers won't even give you the drugs. so you're going out and you're creating these cocktails which in the end didn't put this man under last night. so according to the reports, he suffered agonizing suffocation and pain. and, yes, just like the 19-year-old woman who was buried alive. we understand that. but there's a difference. >> sure. >> i mean -- >> we are the united states of america and we have a constitution. but it's supposed to prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. again, i'm not preaching against the death penalty. i'm saying is this no way to
administer consistently our -- the constitution. >> listen, you can find the way this execution was botched to be utterly grotesque and not feel sympathy. you can still believe in the death penalty. i don't think those two are in contradiction at all. one other thing for fiscal conservatives throughout there was a study that came out, i think in kansas, where executing people actually costs four times more for the state than it does to keep them in prison for life. just because of the legal appeals that constantly have to be made for any execution to flakes. it's cheaper not to execute people than execute someone. >> sam, greatly appreciate it. bill, appreciate you being in here. go penns. -- >> i'll explain that later, yes. sam, actually is staying with us. coming up after the financial
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and welcome back to "morning joe." look at that beautiful view. mark halperin, doesn't that make you want to -- >> it's like i postcard. >> picture postcard. >> i'll tell you what, april 30th. unbelievable. you've got one day until may. and maybe it's been over 61 so far this month.
>> thomas, welcome. >> hi. >> are you going to bring sunshine? >> i wore this tie to force the spring. >> with us from washington, d.c., we got nbc news chief white house correspondent and host of "the daily rundown" chuck todd. chuck, we're going to have katty get to the latest poll. what do you have? >> there's a new poll that's just come in from nbc. but let's start with the overseas numbers. 37% approve of how president obama is handling the situation in ukraine. that's a six-point drop from last month. just 19% of americans want the u.s. to take a more active role in world affairs. nearly half favor less active approach. those numbers have changed significantly from back in 2001, by the way. the poll shows 38% approve of that president's handling of foreign policy. that's the lowest level of his presidency. overall, the president's job
approval rating stands now at 44%. that's a few points better than last month's record low. that could weigh on democrats, though, heading into november's midterms. overall, 63% of those polled said the country is on the wrong track. 27% see things moving in the right direction. and, of course, whoever inherits the white house in 2016, that's going to be a concern for them. so far, hillary clinton is far outpacing two of her owe terrible gop rivals when it comes to favorability. the foresecretary of state is viewed significantly more positively than former governor jeb bush or senator rand paul. >> chuck todd, obama's approval ratings holding pretty steady. affordable care act stuck in the mid-30s. what's it mean? >> it's an important development in the last six months, joe, if you look at it both the president's approval rating and the health care numbers,
basically the approval rating of the health care law are at six-month highs. meaning they're basically back to where they were the week before the website debacle. we were in the field, basically government shutdown, right when before we new the website was a total disaster. >> but it was like 36%? >> that's my point. and it had gotten worse over the last six months. the point of the poll is this, joe. the poll numbers are better, they're still not good, okay? there is slight improvement on the health care law. and that directly related to slight improvement for president obama. because what was amazing in this poll, i don't think i've ever seen this in the history of our poll, the president's rob rating on the economy and rob rating on foreign policy are both lower than this overall job rating. it's unique that the sum is actually greater than the parts. usually one of the two is dragging him down. so in this case, you see that
basically health care is the driver for him now. it got him back to just barely underwater. versus before, i think he was much farther and a much better place. >> chuck, two-part question, one, do democratic strategists think they can do well number with the president's numbers where they are now and what's the strategy to improve the numbers? >> well they still need to get better. if you look inside his numbers, for instance the president's job rating those undecided on the generic ballot are is at 29%. the generic ballot is 45-45. you can argue it's not high enough to improve there. however, when you look at the makeup of the president's job rating and the improvements that were made, they were made in sort of the democratic coalition that democrats need to do well. and in particular, women. the gender gap. what's interesting here, while republicans are stronger, a
little bit stronger, among men than they were in 2010. they are in a much worse place among women than they were in 2010. so you do see this gender gap growing even bigger. and that is a way, potential, at least to not do as badly. that's an important development for democrats as well as these increased gender gaps. >> these are important, obviously, the programs are important to future. and help me assess this. i was talking to a fairly prominent person in american life. a person who i had to call late in the afternoon in november of 2008 to tell him that the exit polls indicated that barack obama would be elected president. and he called me back later that night, election night, crying, he was so happy, with the president. yesterday afternoon, he was telling me how disappoint he has been in the obama presidency of late. what do you think rumbles
beneath the surface of these numbers with that story? >> well, i do think they're going to end up getting better. i mean disdain for the health care law because so much has been said tab. a lot of misinformation, but as millions of people get health care it will go. i see that with louisiana. mary landrieu is now saying i was in favor of health care. likewise, cities in this country, unemployment has gone down to 5%. you're getting cities starting to recover. i think the president's approval rate will go go up. >> there's a level of disappointment. >> there's a disappointment, historically, when you look back and say, okay, we got out of the financial crisis. we have a boon of energy which i think we should exploit more and use against russia, frankly. we've also had a health care thing that's going to end up being good for this country.
historically, it's go to be better off for the polls. >> obviously, we'll know more in the november midterms. and how that pans out. as we look at the numbers and as they play out to who people like for 2016, it looks like hillary clinton is the big leader here and nobody can catch her, at least in this poll. >> i remember the same discussion in. 20 2007. obviously, she's in a good position. liberals, these not the liberal candidate, there's going to be someone who runs to her left. i just don't see it. you talk to a lot of people wary of betting into the race because of her money advantage. to barnacle's question, the reason people are disappointed with the president is because he overpromised and destined to deliver. i think that's obvious. if you look at the numbers with respect to what he's done, especially on health care, things are improving in terms of
the realm of public opinion. if you look at the numbers how people want to keep the minor fixes, that's only 48%. there's 28% that want a full repeal. the numbers are evening out a little. i think the republicans feel that it's nontenable. >> i agree with sam. the people yelling for total repeal of the law are the ones that are going to hit the backlash. you have a may have trend right now which is on economic opportunity. economic equality. whether the pope or anything else. i think republicans and democrats can come together to try to clear that. but if that doesn't happen, i think that's going to be obama's narrative for the next couple years. >> we shall see. chuck todd, before i let you go, "the wall street journal" has a headline americans want to pull back from the world stage poll
says." talk about that. >> you saw katty read that one number, 47% want us to be less active. we gave people a choice of what type of foreign policy that they want from a president. and while they want a president to be strong -- be a little more confrontational, they don't want us to be more involved. i think it actually explains the president's job rating, right? which is the more foreign policy is in the news, the more they just don't like it. so they don't approve of what he's doing in russia, thre38% o there. but ask them overall, they're fine with it, they're fine with the president's own style on foreign policy. i think you've got a little bit of a confused electorate, other than they just don't want to be involved. they just want to retreat. if the government gets involved overseas, they don't want to hear about it. that's the other thing that the president has. they don't want to hear about it. >> after years of war, you can certainly understand. chuck, thank you so much.
we're be checking you out on "the daily rundown." sam, thank you as well. greatly appreciate it. we're going to keep talking about this. davidaxelrod is coming in at 8:00 on the east coast. and we'll get david's reaction, when the president is talking about foreign policy, he's losing. coming up, straight ahead, foreign policy. the ukraine, reaching a new high as pro-russian militants continue their siege, just acting in brutish ways. two of the best in the industry, dr. brzezinski and david ignatius. first, dylan dreyer joins us with the latest on the deadly tornado outbreak next up on "morning joe."
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a couple ready to get into a bathtub right in the area. as you said the waters, the flooding historic? >> they're saying i haven't seen it like this like ever. like to the 1950s. it's going to be 60 years. we're getting crests on rivers now that we haven't had in many hurricane. this is a live shot from pen pensacola towards the downtown area. this is all around the region the water's starting to recede, too. we're adding up the damage going through the days. there's a 4-year-old girl in a kayak in her living rolf in gulf short, alabama. the water came down so fast. six inches of rain in 45 minutes in pensacola. imagine that six inches of rain in 45 minutes. there's no water in the world that can add up that much rain that fast. it's starting to slowly move out now. even destine got nearly a foot of rain in the last 24 hours.
panama city, flash flooding going. mobile was horrible last night. they had amazing water rescues done by the firefighters. the rain's going up the east coast. the worst of the flooding is by far down by areas of north florida. it's interesting we didn't get the tornadoes yesterday but we did have this horrible flooding. and we're still actually recovering from the tornadoes that we belt with two grace. we want to go to nbc's dylan dreyer in mississippi where everyone is still getting out of the shock stage, aren't they? >> reporter: they certainly are, bill. but get thing is there's a whole different feel to the air in pearl, mississippi. we've lost that humidity indicating that there are no new storms in the forecast today for this area. residents were allowed back in this neighborhood to begin to sift through the rubble and try to pick up some of the pieces of their lives. unfortunately, the same can't be said everywhere. those deadly footing conditions continue as the storms slowly spread east.
and people realize the devastation from these storms and let that settle in. from hell to high water. firefighters had to rescue this man from a fast-moving creek in mobile. as lightning lit up another stormy night in the south with hundred us of reported strikes from the mississippi delta up into georgia. >> it's touching down. it's touching down. >> reporter: more than 130 twisters reported since sunday. from kansas. >> did you see what happened to our house? >> reporter: -- to north carolina. >> we ran into the house. and trying to hurry up and get everybody in the bathroom. >> reporter: but a branch which hit this house came crashing in. the human toll is growing with more than 30 people dead, among them john servati a swimmer at the university of alabama. friends say he died a hero holding up a concrete wall long enough for his girlfriend to get out from under it before it
collapsed on him. >> john did great things every day. of the fact that he does that did not surprise me. >> reporter: and did wassom, an iraq war veteran shields his two young daughters. >> he loved his girls, loved his wife. >> reporter: wassom's father found his son's photo in the wreckage. >> man, he was a good boy, guys. i wish you knew him. >> reporter: in pearl, mississippi, angie coleman took us through what's left of her mother's home. >> this is her place. >> reporter: she said her mother usually ignores the warnings. but what made her leave this time? >> she had her grandbabies with her. that's the only reason they left. >> reporter: they got out safely and later found the dog they left behind at a nearby animal shelter. >> i love you. >> reporter: now, since sunday, the biggest concern has been for all of those tornadoes, more than 130 tornadoes as you just
heard. but now the concern is for that flooding. like what we're seeing in the panhandle of florida. these storms are very slow moving, bill, as you know. and now it's the east coast that could see perhaps an isolated tornado but it's more a threat of straight line wind gusts and more flooding as the rain comes down. >> dylan, thanks so much. what a four-day stretch. finish it up with flooding and as you mentioned isolated tornadoes appreciate your work there in pearl, mississippi. joe, you got the gift ost of it. how about this heroic rescue. a firefighter went across the river just in a life jacket and a rope to drag that man across the raging water into safety. that was in the middle of the night in mobile, alabama. >> thank you so much, bill. do appreciate it. coming up next, how only one man took the fall for the worst economic collapse in financial
history. reporter jesse icinger from "the new york times" will explain that straight ahead. and barack obama's poll numbers are hitting lows but is there hope for the embattled president? is this a defining moment for this white house? david axelrod is going to join us and tell it what it mean for control of the senate straight ahead. red and seventy-seven thousand dollars per minute.
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theories. i don't think it's conspiracy. i think what was was learned incompetence. essentially they had a decade of fiascos and mistakes and adverse rulings. and that took away their skill set to not only -- >> is that the prosecutors? >> we're talking about the department of justice as a whole. they went through a series of fiascos over the decade starting with arthur anderson. >> right. >> and they took bad lessons from that and they pulled back the investigative capabilities. >> how much did the transference of resources or lack of resources, within justice, specifically the fbi after september 11 have to do with seemingly turn a blind eye to wall street? >> i think that's a big deal. the department of justice was undergoing hiring freezes at the very moment when the investigation into the final crisis were gearing up. they have unwound the postal unit which was an expert unit on complex financial investigations. so that's one of it.
but there was a failure of will. they were very worried about losing. and so they could have done more with the resources they had and they didn't. >> katty kay is in washington and has a question. katty? >> think it not conspiracy theories. i was wondering what you thought about elizabeth warren's piece in politico where she points to the close ties in washington and particularly the white house and people on wall street and some kind of suggestion that there's political expediency and that's why they haven't gone after wall street and banks as hard as they might have done? >> i think the bailout was certainly a major mistake because they sought to preserve specific institutions, so that was questionable and had to do with their ties. i think the dog prosecutors had to do with those ties. we saw a major prosecutor just going there now.
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joy reed, host of "the joy reed response." >> you know they're listening to us. >> and you pick the phone up and say i'll be in. and right, willie? is that how it goes? >> in this house, that is the way it goes. >> exactly. we don't have planning calls. director of thence constitute of politics, david axelrod. also with us, chuck todd. they're going to be crunching some numbers and talk about what it means not on for the president for legislation as we move forward to 2014 but also for the election in november. first, willie, let's go to news. >> after promising due process to donald sterling, nba commissioner adam silver delivered a swift and severe
judgment against the clippers owner for his racist remarks. >> the views expressed by mr. sterling are deeply offensive and harmful. that they came from an nba owner only heightens the damage and my personal outrage. accordingly, effective immediately, i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the clippers organization or the nba. >> so what does that mean exactly? it means no practice, no games? he cannot be at the clippers facility, cannot weigh in on any personal decision, he can have no interaction with the team he owns ever again. that's on top of a maximum $2.5 million fine, which is nominal considering his estimated net worth of almost $2 billion. the question is how long sterling will own the clippers. that's also in doubt.
>> i will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force a sale of the team and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. >> so, bob, there will be a vote of the owner, requires three quarters of the owners to vote to oust sterling. >> it will be 29-0 or 29-1 if sterling's interests exercise their vote out of the 30 teams. even if there are some owners that have some misgivings, not because they have any sympathy with sterling, but because they think there's something about the process that disturbs them, they can't run the public relations risk to in any way side with sterling.
sterling would be bound by that decision and the only thing the nba can do is ensure he gets fair market value for the team. does this man that donald sterling, who has the history of being one of the most litigious people in america won't find some way to sue, i wouldn't bet against that. i think he made sure all the ducks were in a row before he made his decision. >> he's only been there three mens or less it and that. i think the only thing he could do, he didn't leave any breathing space, there no
criticism if you think sterling should be out of the league. >> the only criticism i've heard, there are some people concerned with the possibility that sterling's family could retain control of the team and you could have one of these situations where he's whispering in somebody's ear or calling from an unlisted phone. i don't think that will happen. i think they will line up a credible buyer, make sure that person passes muster and is above reproach. >> the nba has done what they had to do. but if there's any soul searching that comes out of this and any time something happens, they go now we're going to have the conversation we should have on race and we never do, the nba has to answer some questions. >> yeah. >> this guy obviously racially insensitive. elgin baylor sues for racial discrimination. this was a very open secret, yet the nba allowed this guy to
continue doing what he was doing until he was taped illegally. what does that say about the nba and david sterling's tenure? >> adam silver yesterday said it. you have a guy that's got this behavior and this is a sanction being taken only for the specific phone call, not accumulated past behavior. i was a little thrown off by all the high fiving, i have to say, yesterday. there is no finality to this while, first of all, he's still profiting from the team, which has just become even more profitable, the more games they win in the playoffs, the longer they stay in, he could walk away with an $700 million, $800 million pay day and his family is still profiting from the team. i wonder if the nba all coale e coalesced to save the season and the profitability of the league. there was one guy who represents
the players who say we need a timeline, a timetable, that's when this will be over, when this guy is no longer associated with the team. >> there are obviously larger issues than just basketball and one franchise here. one of those issues as bob costas and willie and joy just alluded to, there are other owners who knew about this guy, knew his background, the department of justice suing him. the issue is not just among nba onners but in our culture generally, they separate, other, that was donald in business. this is different now. now he's really crossed the line. what he did, discriminating against people in housing, that's just business. >> there's no question the attitudes he displayed on the phone -- the notion that he can discretely run the team by making phone calls, i think this
is a guy who will think twice about making discrete phone calls in the future. >> i don't think he knows what a discrete phone call is. >> i think mark cuban expressed concern about where all of this goes. i don't know what the business practices of all of the owners of the nba are but i think if you start scrutinizing them, you're going to find issues with more than one of them. >> and bob costas, mark cuban said what he did for a reason. there are other owners who might have believes that might be offensive to corporations. >> quite possible. i doubt anyone comes near to donald sterling. i'm not being naive by saying there aren't racist attitudes lurking in the shadows but somebody like sterling is an
outlier. >> how could that happen? >> he bought in in '91, they regret it, they couldn't find a way to oust him without a court -- >> did they ever try before? >> i couldn't say but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't lead him in that direction. i have to say in defense of david stern, no one is perfect but he ran the most progressive sports league in america for 30 years. you walk into the nba offices not five years ago but 25 years ago and up saw african-americans and women in positions of real responsibility, real responsibility. it wasn't just on the court, it wasn't just in the coaching ranks. it's so common place in the nba for general managers, for coaches, for league executives to be african-americans that you get the ideal situation, it's not news when they're hired and not news when they're fired.
>> bob, you know what strikes me? i've been a season ticket holder for the chicago bulls since 1976. when i bought my season ticket, i think it cost $6 each, each seat. we had a very, very class mixed, race-meksed crowd. it struck me when i heard sterling's comments when he said don't bring blacks to the basketball game is we don't have great class and racial mix in the audience. so the truth is the nba has priced itself out. >> yes. there's some of that. there's definitely some of that. >> maybe if he had a more mixed -- maybe if he had a more mixed crowd, he'd have at least to think about what he was saying. that's one of the things that bothers me about the nab be in and i love the nba, is that the average fan, white and black, has been priced out of the arena. >> and at the owner level you
don't have that diversity. and i do think that sports in general has been ahead of the rest of society often in our history in terms of recognizing the need to integrate and also just the experience of people playing together, working together has created more tolerance. but you also had a situation where doc rivers was working for a man that he must have known, must have experienced to have these horrible racial views. you have to wonder a little bit how can you tolerate a league that is predominantly african-american on the court, where you have a black coach working for a man who is demonstrably behaving in racist ways. elgin baylor's credibility i'd put up against his every day and the work environment -- the players may not have been dealing with this guy but the coach experienced it. you wonder why wasn't anything done over time? >> those questions will be asked not on about what happened inside the clippers organization but also within the front office of the nba. like you said, everybody's going
to clean this up, they're going to high five each other and then they'll have to ask how this guy was able to stay in power for 30 years. we have, chuck, the new wall street journal polls coming out, we want to talk about that, the president and the 2016 campaign. you asked the question of president obama on this issue. tell bus about it. >> i gave him the option to comment. i thought what was interesting was he had a lot to say, he wanted to do that. after that press con presence in malaysia, i talked to a few of his aides and he was telling me he was prepping them and he knew everything about sterling's past, he had been following the story very closely and he saw the opportunity as a way to sort of raise the bar a little bit for the nba. he named by name dropping commissioner silver in there, to have him realize that this is the action that needed to be taken and hoped that whatever it
took, you know, to have more public comments, add more weight to the issue, to encourage the decision that the commissioner ended up coming with. so it just was fascinating to find out how much not only that it want his staff prepping him but one of those cases the reverse. that's how closely he had followed the story and how much he knew about sterling's past. >> i think in many ways the last four days have shown the strength of the nba, not just adam silver but magic johnson, charles barkley -- >> and a number of white players, too. >> yes. this in many ways was a good moment for the nba. >> i think and i don't want to be naive here, but this guy is such an outlier, that i think is speaks well for the progress -- still plenty of progress to be made but the progress that has been made.
no one's trying to make excuses for this guy, no one's trying to soft pedal what he did. there is strong, outspoken disapproval from every place on the spectrum, conservative, liberal, moderate, black, white. there may be guys lurking in the shadows like donald sterling but there's no place in mainstream america for these attitudes any longer. his biggest punishment is that he's a pariah. he's 81 years old. i don't know how much longer he'll be around. there aren't many places he can go without people averting their glance for the rest of his life. >> it's a matter of time now for him in the nba. please, as a yankee fan, keep going to fenway. i appreciate it very much. >> actually go, to yankee stadium, they need the fans. >> i went to yankee stadium last night and they lost. >> you were one of the three people there. >> i had to call the game.
there were about 5,000 people shivering. >> a little sparse. >> a little sparse. >> we've been break down the nbc news/wall street journal poll this morning. 21% of voters had a positive view of jeb bsh, 32% negative. and when asked about former first lady barbara bush's comments that there were quote, more than two or three offices that should run for high office in america, 69% agreed with that statement, 25% disagreed. chuck todd, what stood out to you? >> i think what stood out was jeb bush. the last time we measured it, in the last year, his numbers have gotten worse, not better. he's become more prominent over the last two or three monies,
he's been more public, he's gotten more attention, partially because christie has had his on political problems but he's gotten attention as the establishment alternative front-runner. you have to be concerned if you're jeb bush. as you've gotten more attention, your numbers have got i don't know worse, not better. as you've become more public, your numbers have got i don't know worse, not better. he's okay among establishment, pretty much a 2-1 establishment rating. among tea party republicans, he starts with a net negative and then contrasts that to rand paul, who is enormously popular with tea party republicans, which is half the party, has offer 50% positive rating. no other person right now that we've measured has gotten over 50%. these weren't good numbers for
jeb, especially when you consider the more prominent he's got i don't know over the last three months. >> the poll finds the world wants to pull back from the world stage. you've always said that's not a positive for the president. the ukraine numbers, it seems like the americans don't want to be involved in foreign policy but they still expect everything to go wonderfully in foreign policy. so the president has a difficult situation with vladimir putin and suddenly his leadership is called into question. what do you, as a guy who has read far too many polls in your lifetime, how do you have dissect that and what do you tell politicians moving forward what americans expect from their foreign policy? >> i think one of the hangovers from the long war in iraq and
afghanistan is people really have turned inward, that combined with the economic climate has turned inward. the reason rand paul is doing better than jeb bush is he's fundamentally anti-institution -- every institution is polling badly. the military does all right, but they're not doing as well as they used to be. and, secondly, people are turning inward. so we have a country that is more isolationist, anti-institution, people feel they're not getting a fair shake. the other thing i'd say, joe, about the point that chuck was making about jeb bush is jeb bush has two problems. one is the name bush, which is still not a popular name in our politics. the second is that he's an establishment guy but he's a guy who has been ready to take some
stands on common core standards, on immigration, that are completely antithetical to the base of his party. i still think he could be a strong general election candidate, but i'm not sure how he gets through that process without making major, major compromises that would make him a bad general election candidate. it's very, very difficult to -- >> joy? >> the theory of the case for people around jeb bush, at least i talked to and i'm sure you know a lot of the same people was that at a srn point the tea party wing of the party would become unpopular enough that essentially the party would come back to him and if he waited long enough, the bush brand would improve over time. that theory, the problem this that theory is the tea party wing of the party is unpopular in the -- at large, but within the republican party it's still the majority, it's still very
strong. so somebody like a rand paul is in a strong position. >> that is the paradox, the things that would make you a strong general election candidate make you a difficult primary candidate in the republican party. until they solve that problem, they're going to have a hard time winning a national election. >> chuck, be the magellan for us. if jeb bush gets in on those first three or four republican primaries that he would have to endure. >> it starts in iowa. we've already soon the establishment has ebb senssenti lost iowa three, four straight times. what works in iowa is an evangelical populist, mike huckabee won. new hampshire should be better terrain for him but new
hampshire has a libertarian streak so you could see rand paul also doing pretty well there. the one up side for jeb is if hillary is not contested. but then you get down to south carolina and, again, an evangelical populist is what's going to end up being more likely to win down there, not somebody like jeb, particularly if you look at the issues of common core and all this. i think joy brings up the correct point of what's sort of jeb bush's problem because of the popularity of the tea party. now, that said, we may be going through a month, this month is going to be the biggest test the tea party has had in a long time for survival. they could get shellacked this month and not win in any test they're contesting. i don't think the establishment beating them back will somehow
still hurt the tea party movement or at least the position that people agree with inside the party and that's going to be also troublesome for jeb. >> all right, chuck. thank you so much. what do you have planned for "the daily rundown"? >> a will the more on the poll, more on the clippers. i got angus king talking about money. the koch brothers have higher name i.d. among democrats and that they do independents or republicans. they're talking to themselves on the koch brothers. i don't think it's penetrating with persuasion voters. >> that's what i've always said about certain wings of my party. doesn't really do a whole lot of good if you're just preaching to the choir. you got to actually turn around and talk to the congregation. thank you so much, chuck. looking forward to that. joy reid, stick around with us if you can. coming up, in ukraine, pro-russian militants are storming offices and taking over
more government buildings. we're excited to have dr. brzezinski and david ignatius back together. we'll ask them if there's anything president obama a can do to get vladimir putin's attention. but first, bill karins, what's the weather going to be like? >> epic amounts of rainfall in southern alabama and this is from the pensacola area last night. i-10 has been shut down for the last eight to nine hours, people stuck in their cars, can't move, just waiting for the water to recede. there is literally a river running over i-10. weep just got word that they're going to open it quickly. maybe they did already. those pictures from mobile,
that's a man clinging from a tree and the firefighter rescuing him. how harrowing is that? a weather watching outside of downtown pensacola, he had for the entire rainfall event, 24 1/2 inches of rain. no wonder that are dealing with historic event in the pensacola area. the fish river in southern alabama, that one just crested. that's good. a lot of rescues going on there. we could see isolated in virginia, north carolina, south carolina today and of course the northeast is cold and soggy and airport delays, hour maf in laguardia, two hours in philadelphia. those delays will probably build throughout the day. we'll bring you more amazing pictures from the gulf kcoast a
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♪ >> leave ukraine in peace and work with us together to create a strong ukraine, a ukraine that is not the pawn pulled at and tugged at between east and west but a ukraine that could be a bring to both. >> that of course secretary of state john kerry in the news this past week for a lot of different reasons. with us to talk about it from washington, former national security adviser for president carter, dr. brzezinski, the author of "strategic vision,
america and global power" and david ignatius, who is just returning from the trip to the middle east. dr. brzezinski, i want to talk to you about the stakes over europe. but first, the peace talks in the middle east have broken down. what's the next step? >> for the united states? >> well, what's the next step for this ongoing process that you dedicated a good bit of your life to, finding peace in the middle east. >> well, if they cannot be resumed, which i assume it will still be attempted to do, we should probably go public on what our view of what a fair settlement ought to be like. i think we have views on the subject. i suspect the views we have would be supported overwhelmingly by the national
security and probably by a majority of the palestinians and we shouldn't let some politicians over there paralyze the process for short, tactical objectives. >> dr. brzezinski, the president's plan to lead from behind with gadhafi seemed to work where you had the air bleed going out in front. it's worked in other areas as well and has drawn a lot of controversy. isn't it yours position that when it comes to middle east peace, the united states still remains the indispensable power, it has to be engaged fully and has to be aggressive and has to lead? >> absolutely. look at the american-israeli relationship? we're close friends, we're financing the country on a huge scale, more than any other nation in the world, we're arming it more than any other nation in the world so i think we have a say. in addition to it, we're important in the region and the region is important to us.
so we clearly have an enormous stake in the outcome. we have tried in good faith to promote negotiations in the par party, they have proven unwilling to be trustworthy. >> david ignatius, you have just returned from iraq and syria in the middle east. obviously another round of bombings in iraq recently, more bloodshed and the syrian crisis continues. what did you find? >> i've basically found that you've got civil wars in both countries. i talked to sunni iraqi military and political leaders who are waging a real campaign now against prime minister maliki in
baghdad. it's reminiscent of the worst days in 2006 and 2007 when the u.s. was trying to keep that civil war from breaking out and had some success. what a tragedy that after stopping the violence, the u.s. and maliki, the prime minister, have allowed it to continue. in syria, you have a brutal, bitter stalemate, those from refugee camps, meeting to talk to me, i have a feeling this is going to be a grinding war with thousands killed every month until the u.s. has a policy. people say we should start
talking to bashar al assad, but i don't think he can unite that country. the u.s. really has no obligation but to be a leader. everybody looks to the u.s. for guidance. >> we have david axelrod in chicago. david? >> dr. brzezinski, i read your piece on the you've crane. i have a question about vladimir putin. one of the paradoxes here is he seems to be gaining political popularity in russia for his actions in ukraine. at what point do economic sanctions shift that, or do they? does he shift the blame for them to the u.s. and does it continue to make him popular in his own country or can we erode his strength at all through economic sanctions that bring the russian economy down? >> i think we can. but only if it did no longer appear as his methods are
successful. after all, he grabbed crimea by force but nothing happened from the international community and the ukraine did not resist. he's not destabilizing ukraine and they don't seem to be very effective in responding to it. as long as that goes on, probably he'll have support from the russians who feel this is somehow or other a national self-assertion. but as soon as the sanctions begin to bite, i think that will begin to change and if we encourage the ukrainians to be firmer, by being willing to help them in republic cystisisting, providing defensive arms because there are indications the russians may want to swipe more territory and occupy the country. and last but not lease, at the same time we should offer the russians the possibility of a compromise. and in the article in the wall street journal to which i think
you refer, i outline a compromise. just if i may make one more point, i think the president by now should really speak to the country. this is a very dangerous international problem, potentially really dangerous. the president needs to begin to focus the country's attention away, say, from the nba to world affairs and in particular to the challenge that putin posing to international instability. >> david ignatius, off of what dr. brzezinski just said and off the fact that you just returned from iraq and syria, what did you find in iraq and syria, what's the level of expectation for the united states' role in the countries you just visited. >> i was on the borders of iraq and syria but was actually in
jordan doing this reporting. what i find is that people look to the united states in these increasingly chaotic situations for leadership and clarity. there really is no other country like the united states. they may hate us, be furious at us, but they still look to us for guidance. >> do you mean weapons? >> there are lots of different places, in dealing with civil war in syria, some program of training and assistance for the syrian opposition seems to make sense to me and a lot of people. i think president obama has decided on that. some additional efforts in iraq, done that through the uniformed military but other ways i think are ahead. in ukraine i'm struck by the way, as dr. brzezinski says, obama is trying to find this
rational path in which the u.s. doesn't take risks beyond what the country is prepared to follow up p through on and putin keeps not responding. i think that putin is digging himself deeper and deeper into a hole in ukraine but i keep waiting for him to realize it and recognize the long-run problems he's creating for russia. >> david ignatius, thank you so much. dr. brzezinski, thank you as well, always great to have you. david, thank you very much as well. joy, what are the president's options? i talked about leading from behind. obviously this president is reacting to 12 years of war, reacting to what americans want, which is less of a role. but you like at ukraine, look at syria, look at iraq. he may have to get out of his comfort zone and get more aggressive. i'm not talking militarily but
diplomatically. >> there are two questions. the american public tends to respond positive to the theatrics of toughness. we like our president to seem like the boss. but at the same time the american people don't want to actually get involved so walking that line is difficult. and this is a president who isn't that excited about doing the theatrics of the presidency. he's more of a mechanic, wants to do the mechanics of it. on the mechanics of it, the president is doing the right thing but the theatrics on it, that's where the question is. >> and theatrics, whether you're talking about fdr, the day after pearl harbor or ronald reagan saying, "mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall," theatrics is important and the president said it, "i don't do theater."
>> when it comes to vladimir putin, this guy is in it for the marathon, he has a six-year term. whoever gets the baton, they've got to deal with vladimir putin. the traction he gets now on president obama's water is part of president obama's legacy. by the time 2016 rolls around, who knows where he'll be. in 2008 he went into georgia, there are still russian forces in georgia. we'll have to wait and see what happens. >> coming up, twitter takes another hit in the markets as the stocks fall 11%. why earning announcements has wall street very worried, especially because they're actually making money. we'll be right back with more "morning joe."
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we're trying to get joy off the ledge right now, she invested it all in twitter. sara eisen, what's going on with the stock? >> investors were not impressed, even though sales doubled. it's the number of users that was a little discouraging. people are wondering whether twitter can have the same kind of growth and scale that facebook has, 255 million monthly active users. it was only an increase of 14 million. that was a little disappointing when it comes to growth prospects down the road. also gdp, our nation's economy
only growing 0.1% in the first quarter, barely growing at all. we have to caveat that, it was all weather, cold weather hurt spending, hurt the economy. we'll see what the federal reserve has to say about the economy. today is decision day for the fed, janet yellen, we'll get a statement out of the fed at 2:00 p.m. and it looks like federal prosecutors are nearing criminal charges against two major banks, doesn't have to do with mortgages and the housing crisis, has to do with tax shelters and other issues, like doing business with banned countries like iran. >> so the two big takeaways, joy's stock ruined -- >> she's ruined. >> wall street has answered the question, no, they can't add more and the u.s. economy flat
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they're being paid in beer. >> reporter: it's 8:00. he's an alcoholic. these beers might as well be their morning coffee. >> the first beer i'm shaking. one or two beers, it's over. >> reporter: the men are part of an unusual social project, a partially government funded program to pay alcoholics to pick up litter with beer. five beers, two in the morning, two at lunch and one at the end of their shift. that, along with half a pack of rolling tobacco, about $13, and a hot lunch. the goal, to get them off the streets where they drink all day -- >> i have control of my life. >> reporter: got it. >> it's better. >> reporter: and into a daily routine. >> they have something to do, there's a reason to get up. they have contact, fellowship and they're not drunk here. they only get five beers, which they need to feel not ill.
>> reporter: to understand how a program like this would get started eahere, you have to understand amsterdam as a whole, a place with very little taboos. even their home windows are rarely curtained. their problems, all up for discussion. so your mom died, your dad died -- >> and two brothers. >> reporter: and you wanted to forget everything? >> yes. >> reporter: ramone was sleeping on a train station floor before he joined the project. they all may still be drinking but they claim it's a lot less than before. marco is even trying to stop. do you think that this helped you stop? >> yeah. yeah, gives a rhythm to the day. >> reporter: a rhythm that doesn't just give them a chance to restore their city but their pride.
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bit. >> it will be in the profile when written, once got thrown out of a donkey show in amsterd amsterdam. >> how does one get thrown out of a donkey show -- >> i didn't get in. >> you learned about twitter today? >> i learned about #ineedthisjob. >> coming up, "the daily rundown," unfortunate picture, guys. unfortunate picture. numbers crunch. our new poll has some ups and downs for the president ash tie that bodes well for the republicans and hillary clinton hurting a bit from the barbara bush rule. money matters. a rare sight in the next hour with former supreme court justice john paul
"morning joe." clintons will be in little rock to celebrate the 10th anniversary of their library. there's a free concert. later we'll hear from the two window wash who are had to be rescued from the 67th floor of 1 world trade center on wednesday. they are expected to hold a news conference. that will do it for our friday edition of "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ good morning, everybody. it's friday. >> this is the jam. >> november 14th. welcome to "morning joe." what a difference a day off makes. >> what a great day. >> i need to do that more often. with us on set -- i never have. it's time -- >> was it a spa day. >> a day with my daughter day.
no other reason. yep. i spent years not doing that. >> what was that like >> it was amazing. we had the best time. >> i'm going to try that. >> we watched videos in bed. just youtube videos. like funny things. stupid stuff. >> did you see the person impersonating matthew mcconaughey. >> no but we'll do that the next time. >> all right, all right. >> we watched the apparent kid on ellen. whatever. senior political editor sam stein is here. donny is here. in washington we got jeremy peters here. how is that >> you were right. >> what? oh, i know. >> dude is on his cell phone. >> mark my words. >> dude on his cell phone. >> he was texting, i bet before the phone call. >> so he's on the cell phone the secret service guy while the other dude is breaking towards the white house and he's on his
cell phone. he left his back up radio inside. he turned off the radio he was supposed to have on because he's on his cell phone and doesn't want -- it's unbelievable. talk about the scathing report, mika. it's just been released. >> that's the bottom line. this is on the white house security breach that happened in september. the department of homeland security faults secret service agents for nearly a dozen performance organizational and technical failures. those errors allowed omar gonzalez to jump the white house fence with a knife, run across the north lawn and enter the first family's home. he then overpowered a female secret service officer and ran across the 80-foot east room before he was apprehended. the report states the secret service' alarm system and radios did not work properly and many officers on duty didn't see gonzalez as he climbed the fence. a uniformed secret service officer with an attack dog was
allegedly talking on a cell phone instead of listening to a two way radio. his stand by radio was in his locker. >> what else i understand they had agents that drew guns on this guy and they go well we don't think he's armed. so they drew their guns. he ran past them. i think it was even an agent in the white house, inside the white house where he came in, drew his gun and said he doesn't look armed. donny, oh, my god. first of all the guy had a knife on him. that equals armed. if there had bean civilian or somebody walking around the white house he could have grabbed them. list jenks i'm sorry, i don't care who it is. if they are racing there the presumption has to be they are armed. not that they are not armed. >> either way shoot them. you're running into my house, if i have a gun i'm going take you down. it's almost beyond comprehension. >> they can teach them how to
shoot in the leg if you don't want to kill them but shoot them. >> we talked about this. let's call it a snafu to be nice. one more example. >> like a dozen snafus. >> whether it's the irs, you know, whether it's the universities administration, the secret service -- when does it get right? and it's stunning. it's really stunning. >> i think the story here really is about tablets and cell phones and as we move forward, security jobs and other jobs that demand complete focus and attention the question is are they going to be allowed to have -- >> there's also the question of why you don't shoot somebody once they are inside the white house because you're presuming they are not armed. >> i read somewhere -- i forget why there was an article i read but it said it's really a lot more complicated to shoot somebody in the leg than you think it is. at the same time don't they have taser guns or something they can
do to impede a man with a knife that's entering the white house front door or lock the door or don't go into the car with your cell phone with your k-9. >> we call president obama the president but at the end of the day he's a dad. can you imagine what must have went down that day with his kids. can you imagine? >> the guy ran right past the staircase to go upstairs where the kids are. >> that's not even the first thing. there's a shooter that shot at the white house from way down the street that they covered up essentially for a while. the first family must be just absolutely aghast. >> let's get to the big story on capitol hill. oh, boy, fireworks. i think so. are we going to see more of the same or is there going some sort of diversion from the norm. president obama said this morning he'll move to overhaul parts of the immigration system by the end of the year and it's already raising the prospect of a government shutdown within some circles of the gop. the "new york times" reports the
white house plan would prevent the deportation of as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants. it would reform the role of law enforcement, add more security to the border and allow the parents of children born in the u.s. to get work documents. the plan would also boost opportunities for more legal immigrants with expertise in technology. yesterday house democrats called on the president to take decisive action fein it came without full congressional backing. some republicans are threatening a shutdown. >> let's not do that, guys. >> you got a w. big w. >> check the win box. let's see. let's listen to what they say about this because perhaps their tone shows they know they've won and time for a new approach. >> your setting somebody up here? >> no. i'm hoping what we're about to see is a real change. so they say unless there's language restricting the
president's proposal. >> will not be shutting the government down, threatening default on the national debt. >> even if he goes forward on immigration. >> will not be shutting the government down or threatening to default on the national debt. >> we're going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path. this is the wrong way to govern. all the options are on the table. we're having discussions with our members and no decision has been made as to how we will fight this. >> i think mitch mcconnell said it pretty straight. no government shutdown right, jeremy peters. >> he did although it may not be entirely his choice. john boehner once again is having to wrestle with the tea party faction in his caucus and i think what's going, what's likely to happen here is the president will wait until after congress deals with the budget to do anything, so congress, therefore, can't shut down the government in response to what the president has done on
illegal immigration but i do think there's a serious, serious amount of caution inside the republican party right now, especially among the new senate majority or the incoming senate majority that shutting down the government would completely squander all of the gains that they just made, all the goodwill that they have among the public right now. >> explain that. why do you think that is? >> i think the first thing they want to do or the first thing they do when they come back, after they are elected the majority party in congress for the first time since 2006 they come in and shut down the government. i think that would look horrible. republicans would get blamed for that. >> they did the last time. >> they certainly did. i will say it's a little bit different this time because when the president acts unilaterally on just about anything that has less public support and we've seen that in the past, this whole notion of executive action on immigration to allow these people to stay here without
going through congress, that has proven unpopular. not just in states like arkansas, but in states like colorado and iowa. i do think that's a concern for democrats. >> we're showing -- this was the republicans blame for the government shutdown last time in october of '13. we've heard a couple of republicans talk about this. but the overwhelming majority just are not going to go there. >> the senate is obviously different than house to. look what mitch mcconnell has to deal with in the senate. he has people up for re-election in very blue states. he has to grapple with that calculus. that's not the calculus that john boehner has to grapple with. but, again, even though the dynamics are different, it's not a shutdown fight would go straight to the president's desk. even those dynamics are in, i can't imagine -- >> not going to do it. >> would be coming in. >> just not going to do it.
>> much more likely put this into the law so they are going after the president for his executive actions on health care. >> take the win. don't talk about a shutdown. don't talk about impeachment. don't talk about default. you know, you're now moving towards 2016. have a chance to win the white house and keep it away from the clintons for eight more years. don't talk about those things. >> all republicans have to do is stay center right and not show. the interesting thing about this immigration thing is two fold. number one, i felt very strongly a republican win would energize obama. we saw with it net neutral thing. he's starting to double down. he's backed into a corner and coming out fighting. the immigration thing could set up the republicans to fraction themselves. you have the hispanics. the republicans started to make inroads in the last election. this will force republican
candidates how harsh do they come out against the president and now spotlight is back on the fraction republicans. >> i have a prediction. i think they let it pass. write it down. they let it pass. they are skraemg and yelling from the right. and it just becomes the law because they don't want to pass their own immigration bill. this becomes the law of the land. the people that are running in the blue states like you said the republicans running in the blue states say yeah i didn't oppose it. i didn't like the way he did it but there are some good reforms there. the right-wingers can scream and yell and say he should be impeached. people running for president the governors running for president they can all go yeah these were things that needed to happen. it sort of eases it along like the gay marriage debate, the courts are taking the gay marriage debate out of the hands of the republicans. it makes it convenient. there are a lot of republicans that to run in 2016 that will say let that pass. >> i totally agree with you.
that's the smart strategic move because it's much easier to say we're against executive action and put aside the policy. we're against presidential executive action on that scale while not dealing with the specifics of the policy. that way you don't enrage the hispanic population but you can talk about obama's overreach. simple play for mcconnell and anybody running in 2016. >> people in the right-wing districts can talk about impeachment. >> then the keystone pipeline which is set for a vote in the house today and the senate is nearing the 60 votes needed to pass it early next week. tissue was fast tracked in large part due to louisiana senate runoff between mary landrieu and bill cassidy both trying to show they can provide for the state. supporters say it will create thousands of american jobs but some analysts suggest the falling price of crude means its market value may be less than it costs to transport and produce here in the u.s. the president who retains his veto power weighed in on the issue this morning while on his
trip to asia. >> as a policy matter, my government believes that we should judge this pipeline based on whether or not it accelerates climate change or whether it helps the american people with their energy costs and their gas prices. and i have to constantly push back against this idea that somehow the keystone pipeline is either this massive jobs bill for the united states, or is somehow war on gas prices. understand what this project is. it is providing the ability of canada to pump their oil, send it through our land, down to the gulf where it will be sold every where else. it doesn't have an impact on u.s. gas prices. >> major environmental questions as well. do you think he should veto it. >> i think if he vetoes it he
proves he's capped big money on the left. no other way to put it. you look at his own state department. they say this is more environmentally sensitive having a pipeline than continuing to allow trucks and tankers to move this oil around. they say it's going to create 45,000, 50,000 new jobs. is this going to cause this great renaissance of like american, you know, american workforce? no. >> a massive bargaining chip is that what you're saying? >> no. what i'm saying is that there's no logical reason whatsoever for the president to veto this other than hard core ideo logs on the left who spend billions of dollars on democratic campaigns. this is, donny and sam, a growing problem, i think for democrats. you know, as a republican i've
seen for some time oh, gee this issue is breaking against republicans. we talked about gay marriage before. this is an issue that will break against republicans with the younger generation. this growing energy revolution where we're going to be the number one producer of oil by 2020 will cost manufacturing and everything go down, democrats are actually on the wrong side of that issue of a historical trend and somebody has to help them, in my opinion. >> i tend to see the politics here which is that there's enough support for this thing to probably pass and the question comes what did the president get as a leverage point for it. in a logical political world couldn't you see a trade off we'll pass keystone, we'll do these environmental regulations on our coal plants. we have a net neutral carbon deal in place. we don't live in a logical political view.
>> if i'm the president i would veto this. you give me minimum wage wage increase. >> company have leveraged that for something. we're at a point where we may end up with a veto proof majority in the senate. >> the president still has the power to say i'll veto this bill, i'll send it back to you, attach $9.15 minimum wage increase to it and sign it. you'll see a lot of those republicans in the senate that are in those blue states running in 2016 saying i'll be a part of that. we'll see what the house does. >> two other political dynamics in play. joining us now from washington chief white house correspondent for politico mike allen. mike, let's start with elizabeth warren. what are the expectations for her new role and then chris christie and wall street. what's going on. go. >> mika, first things first. happy friday. >> happy friday micky. >> playbook is play on birthdays
cond iis 60 and valerie jarrett is 60 today. >> it's valerie's birthday. >> happy birthday valerie. >> i knew that valerie had a birthday. >> start with elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren is coming to the democrats rescue. these democrats are so reluctant, dragging their feet in voting for harry reid as their leader so there's so much excitement about her. she's been added to leadership. she has the made up title of senior policy adviser to the senate democrats. but she came out talking about working families, bashing wall street. you saw where that was going. also yesterday at the mandarin oriental here in d.c. you saw her talking to big democratic donors saying run, liz, run. a lot of excitement about her, pushing her for president among some of the biggest check books in the democratic party.
>> what's going on between chris christie and wall street? >> they are worried about what this story calls as unusual frankness. the big question is that a liability for him or an asset. chris christie is feeling great coming off these big republican governor wins. he feels bridgegate is behind him. republican donors are ppra"gma" ists. >> what do you think? >> i think he's got a temp temperament problem. >> wall street sees that. we never elected an angry person.
>> zero chance this guy will get elected. >> he's not a thug. you know, we went after the teacher. >> fantastic. >> you're asking about my kids and where they go to school. went to a town hall meeting and starting screaming at that guy in the crowd. that's like wall street people didn't say good for him. he can send his kids to a damn catholic school if he wants to. you start yelling at people in press conferences. >> where was the line. you knew he would cross it at some point. >> so it just seemed off kilter. scott walker there's a reason he's scott walker. scott walker won. he's won in wisconsin now three times in four years. his star is now eclipsed, chris christie's with most conservatives i talked to and money people. and even in the "wall street journal" today, they were
talking this is scott walker's moment. >> you end up getting to know the people you cover. you become friends with some of them. i've talked about this. the romneys, the clintons, the obamas, we criticize them a lot. we're also very friendly with them. and they come back sometimes after the most, the biggest -- >> oh, my gosh. let me put it this way. i tore mitt romney to shreds in 2012 for one of the most ineffective lousy campaigns and mocked him and laughed at him when he did really stupid things on the campaign trail. just sort of having fun. you know what? the romneys never once took it personally. and we talked and i would say hey listen -- we kept communications open. we consider them good friends. we love them. >> this was on big stuff.
like running for the president. >> running for the president. chris christie on the bridge thing. we catched so much hell for being supportive of chris christie, mika especially. >> we generally like him. >> he walks past at parties, he's angry because there was that 1% that said well inis bad -- again this is a question of temperament. if you got a problem with mika supporting you only 99% of the time you got a problem. >> mike is laughing. >> 99% of the time. what does that tell you, seriously >> to be honest he's a jerk. >> no he's not a jerk. he's very thin skinned. >> governor of wisconsin scott walker will join us. scott is coming on even though sometimes i'm tough on him. >> you've been very tough on scott walker. >> actor alan alda, and retired
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crash because i overslept. i may be late once in a while not as much as i used to. i'm never late because i oversleep. that first event, that's a one event you have complete control over. >> so, i think it's also a man/woman thing. i think women are always on time. >> your're so punctual. >> went come late and waste time talking about stupid stuff. >> "wall street journal" indicates justice department collecting data from thousands of phones from devices installed on small airplanes. the airplanes are equipped with dirty boxes that have technology smim lar to cell phone towers
allowing the home track calls. this report says while spy planes are targeting criminals a large number of innocent americans are also getting snagged by their dirty boxes. >> "los angeles times," amazon has reached a deal over ebook and print sales after a huge six month -- >> is it a good deal? >> hatchet can set their own prices for ebooks which may help keep the struggling publisher afloat. amazon will continue sales of hatchet books. >> there's a lot of competition. >> authors got squeezed in that. >> "the washington post," the presidential bromance between bill clinton and george w. bush has spilled over to social media. clinton sparked somewhat of a hash tag dual when he tweet ad photo of himself reading his successor's book. clinton called it a touching tribute before using a hash tag
asking how are you still not on twitter. bush took to instagram writing thanks 42, using hash tags how are you still not on instagram and brother from another mother. >> instagram is cooler. >> kind of hip. but bill clinton's advisers obviously trying to keep you from posting pictures. you can understand, right? >> yes. >> all right. >> bush also had this to say about a potential 2016 match up between his brother and hillary clinton. >> i still would like him if jeb beats hillary. >> your betting on that? >> if jeb runs. i don't know if he'll run, i really don't. i hope does because he would be a great president. >> there you go. >> like when your son is competing against your best friend's wife. >> it's just a little too close.
>> sibling. >> unbelievable. >> coming up. excited for the american electorate. 25 years later we get another bush/clinton. please. just bury the white house now. unbelievable. we're all doomed. republican leaders shift positions. his may be the most important. senator roger wicker. hotty toddy. how o le miss beat crimson tide. >> what the top columnists in the nation are writing about. don't go away. we'll be back with much more "morning joe".
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joining us for the must read op-eds, eugene robinson. what are your looking at? >> i have peggy noonan here. "wall street journal." peggy writes this.
i'm really skeptical. she said it's possible the president is responding to changed circumstance with a certain rigidity because no one of stood in his way before. he had family challenges and an unusual childhood but as an adult and a professional he never faced fierce concentrated resistance. he was always magic. life never came in and gave it to him hard in the swrau. he done know how to get up from the mat. he doesn't know how to struggle frl his feet and regain his balance. he only knows how to throw punches but you can't throw a punch from the mat. gene, i'll let you take that. >> i'm very skeptical of all this sort of -- it was his childhood. this pop psychoanalyzing this president and other presidents is basically pretty worthless. i'm a great admirer of peggy's writing -- >> me too. >> but this one i don't get.
also keep in mind the president of the united states is never really on the mat. the president of the united states is still the president of the united states and can, for example, as he did this week make this sort of landmark climate deal with china that will have huge implications. he can do it on his own powers because we give the president a lot of power. i think it's a mistake to read short term political game loss and say the president is on the mat. he's done. he can't do this. he can't do that. he can do a lot. >> it's easy to look at other people's careers and say it came easy for that person and their lives and that's not ever fair or true. having said that to defend this point, i think when he came in he was so absolutely idolized that it might have been hard to imagine that he would have a hard time. >> running against the clintons not easy. >> the guy got elected in 2004. and he was state senator.
he got basically the primetime spot as a state senator on the democratic national convention in boston. nobody gets that. as a state senator. >> his speech in europe. >> hold on. let me finish my point. he gets elected to the senate. everybody says including harry reid he's bored a month later and decides he wants to run for president of the united states when he's in the senate. he doesn't do any work in the senate. as harry reid said you're bored you just need to get out of here and then he gets elected president and, of course, it's tough. yes it's tough. but come on. this guy politically i'm not going to talk personally but politically this guy has been on a magic carpet ride. he's gone to the best institutions on the planet. and went to a great prep school in high school. >> you talking about george w. bush or obama. >> i'm talking about barack obama which, by the way, thank you for making my point. george w. bush had a similar
problem. he rode on a magic carpet ride from the time he was young. compare that, sam stein, to bill clinton. who really did have a rough and tumble. he scratched, he clawed and he got elected in arkansas and he had to fight like hell for his political life every day. >> that's a great point. >> i'll give you a little more time to try to come up with something to go against that because i'm so right. sam, you first. >> let's separate the personal from the political. politically you're probably right. >> i don't know the personal. >> we do know about the personal. he wrote a whole book about the absence of his father in his life. that's a challenge enough in your life. it's an obstacle that a lot of people don't overcome. >> that's why i said political. >> we started with the column. now to your point yeah i think there's something valid to be
said if you're from a blue state, if you've not run, you know, really contested elections he lost his first election for congress that you don't learn the art of the compromise, you don't learn what it's like to negotiate when you're in a bad position, sure i think that's fine. but he has overcome some fairly decent political obstacles which you have to recognize. hillary clinton is not a formidable opponent. >> name me a president, joe, who doesn't come in to office with the possible exception of harry truman who comes into office think i'm really special, they love me. >> gene, they were talking in my ear when you were making the point. ask me the question again. >> name a president with a possible exception of harry truman who has come in to office not thinking i'm special. they really love me. i can do everything. it's an occupational hazard. it comes with the office.
all of a sudden you're president of the united states and you have the, you know, u.s. government at your beck and call and they play hail to the chief whenever you walk into the room. so, yes, it goes to your head because it goes to everybody's head and you think well of course people ought to, you know, ought to accept what i say and i'm just saying -- >> so everybody gets drunk with that power when they walk through the white house. i've had this discussion with people inside this white house saying do you really think the bu bushs didn't think the same thing. when things go bad what political background do you have to fall back on. richard nixon had a political background to fall back on. he learned the wrong lessons from that. bill clinton again the best example. >> scrappy. >> got elected in '78. lost in 1980 he went too far left. self-corrected and was governor for another 12 years of arkansas. he got elected in '92.
conquering hero. two years later he got laid out. adjusted radically. he had that in his background. barack obama doesn't. >> speaking -- >> i'm sorry. >> speaking -- >> okay. >> don't get the hook. >> with us now from -- >> speaking of a magic carpet ride i mean my god. this guy. republican senator from mississippi, senator roger wicker joins us. he's the incoming chairman of the national republican senatorial committee. >> roger we'll talk about the senatorial committee and what you'll be doing over the next two very difficult years for you. but first we need to talk about the sec west. no sec west has lost any team outside of the sec west and we should be number one through four in the playoffs. >> for once i want florida state to play a whole season in the sec west and see how they do. >> oh, my gosh florida state
would have about five losses by now. let's talk about, you for some reason decided to take on one of the tougher tasks in the republican party. we fought, we republicans fought on our grounds on our home field in 2014. 2016 is the opposite. this is a senate map dotted in blue states. what do republicans have to do to win those blue states. >> first of all the reason the map is so tough for us is because we did so well in 2010. so, we have 24 seats to defend and, you know, i feel real good about mark kirk being re-elected in illinois, pat toomey in pennsylvania. new hampshire looks good for us. you take them one by one i think we can defend. >> you're talking about a lot of states, those where the voters, especially the swing voters that come out in '16 won't take kindly to government shutdowns
and threats of impeachments and defaults. do you agree with mitch mcconnell that there's no way in heck that the republican party is going to shut down the government? >> you know they asked mitch two ways about that and the answer was the same, we're not going to have any government shutdowns, we're not going to have any threats of impeachment. we're going return to regular order and show america how the senate is supposed to work, how the founding fathers intended us to move legislation through, an open process, unlimited debate, working in to the night, working on mondays and fridays for a change like the american people do and sending legislation to the house and on to the president for, hopefully his signature. >> jeremy? >> hi, senator. good morning. congratulations. i won, one of the races you didn't mention is nevada where harry reid is up in 2016. if he chooses to run again, will you guys go after him with the same force that he went after mitch mcconnell this time around. >> well absolutely. but you know more importantly i
think that the citizens of nevada will go after harry reid. i think he's out of step with state. we had a real good run this year in the governor's race, lieutenant governor's race and captured a lot of the down state tickets. so to me that state is going republican. i think governor sandoval has a real good opportunity now after a great run as governor, perhaps to run for senator. so, i'm really, frankly i'll say this. i think harry reid may decide to retire. that's my prediction. >> let us see. >> all right. senator roger wicker great to have you on the show. >> thank you roger. >> eugene robinson thank you as well. >> thank eugene. >> thanks. >> gene set me straight. you made me a wiser man. >> comfort food. >> i don't know what that means at all.
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parents and when your parents had you. this process of change is called evolution. it's the reason why we look the way we look. >> a clip from the emmy award-winning series bill nye the science guy focused on evolution. evolution and the science of creation. it's author bill nye joins us now the book already doing well. >> yes. number eight. >> that is good. tell us about the book. why did you write it? >> to change the world. >> really? >> and has the world been sufficiently changed. >> we'll see. >> is it over? >> so evolution is the fundamental life in all of life sipes and we have a large fraction of people most advanced nation in the world that don't accept it. >> that's his party, by the way. his crazy whacky party. just saying. >> we have more in common -- we're more alike than different.
>> exactly. thank you, bill nye. >> that's one of the points of evolution that really in a sense no such thing as race. >> tell his crazy party that also. >> donny, we'll have to pull you from the set. >> for example, just by way of example, just run the star experiment. if a norwegian woman interacts -- can we say interact. >> yes. >> what do we mean by interact. >> have sex, procreate. >> from guinea you'll get a human not a new thing. this is sort of a fundamental idea. >> let's get to the crux of your book. what do you want to accomplish here? what message do you want to send? >> that evolution is the fundamental idea in life science
and it's humbling and empowering. when you realize you're a product of trial and error then i hope you cut yourself some slack. everybody you've ever met has made it this far. everybody you've ever met is good enough to get here. even my old boss. it's that simple. i was never sure. >> let me ask you a question. does the fact that fewer people are believing in evolution suggesting we aren't evolving. >> the pendulum will swing. see here's what keeps the united states in the game economically. we don't manufacture things here the way they did when i was a kid or especially when my father was a kid. what keeps us in the game is innovation. new ideas. if you want an iphone, if you want that computer you're enjoying, if you want that plastic that your boston red sox cup is made out of, you got to have innovators, new ideas,
scientist, engineers. engineers make things and to solve problems. if you have a group of people that continually suppresses science, then you'll fall behind economically. this is why i'm concerned about young people. >> so, i am a southern baptist, orthodox in my believe. terrible southern baptist. >> i'm not keeping record. >> black sliding southern baptist. you're not the one to keep records, the big man is. this debate has always come up and it's always been either or, black or white. you either believe in jesus or you believe in evolution. you either believe in god or, blah, blah, blah. the pope said something a couple of weeks ago that i've been saying since i've been 8 years old, why does there have to be a conflict. if you believe in the power of god, you believe god has the power to set events in motion. how helpful was the pope's
statement. >> it was good. it's good. also good that the pope accepted the findings of g alileo. this organization especially in kentucky has this diligent and complete program to indoctrinate young people that the earth is somehow magically 6,000 years old and it's not. it can't be. so if you question that when you question everything in geology. like the philae spacecraft, amazing thing. billions of kilometers out in space. taking astonishing pictures. if there's an steroid or comet with our name on it we need a space program to give it a nudge. if you don't believe in this stuff you won't do anything about it. >> i saw are a me ged don't. >> the book is -- >> don't want to blow it up. give it a nudge. >> bill nye, thank you so much.
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." don't you love this song? can't hardly wait for replacements. the ending of what i believe to be the best rock album of the 1980s. >> a bold statement. >> "pleased to meet you." >> it's a great record. >> managing editor of bloomberg politics john heileman, good to have you on board. >> hi there. >> don't you get happy when john shows up? >> i do. >> the whole set gets elevated. >> the pixie dust i sprinkle every where. >> that's what you call it? >> that's what i call it. >> senator mitch mcconnell's argument for re-election was opportunity to become majority leader and now that's a reality. >> despite some senators refusal to say who they would back, mcconnell was elected unanimously. harry reid was elected senator minority leader but politico reports he had to convince some
skeptical democrats he would be more open to policy and messaging. some members tried to delay the vote and six defect preponderance of the evidence when asked if he shouldered some of the blame for the senate flipping reid said does anybody in nebraska know me or kansas? >> yes, they do. can i answer that for him? yes, they do. they don't like you. >> stop. >> in fact, they know you a lot more than they know the koch brothers and the people that gave you hundreds of millions of dollars to win the election from the democrats they are very angry at you because you blew all of their money chasing after the koch brothers and making it personal. you should have watched the godfather. never make it personal. he made it personal. he cost the democrats a lot of seats. >> i just don't think he was asked. i don't know. he also says i don't think it had much to do with me. >> it had everything to do with me. >> people don't know who i am. he created a position for
senator elizabeth warren as a policy adviser in a nod to the progressive wing of the party. >> they like her. >> house minority leader pell was elected again but unleashed a long rebuttal when a reporter asked if she considered stepping aside when the democrats failed to make the majority for a third election. >> what was the day that any of you said to mitch mcconnell when they lost the senate three times in a row. aren't you getting a little old, mitch, shown you step aside? have you ever asked him that question? have you ever asked, have any of you ever asked him that question? so i don't understand why that question should even come up. i'm here as long as my members want me to be here. it's just as interesting as a woman to see how many times that question is asked of the woman and humanities that question is never asked of mitch mcconnell. >> mika, is that fair? >> yeah. in a big way. the question is has it been asked of mitch mcconnell? i don't know the answer. >> he's never been majority
leader before. >> but has it been asked in other -- i think it's a very good point. >> it's a good question to raise except for the fact if mitch mcconnell had lost this time, i think you know, that would have been third, fourth time in a row, then i think the question would have been asked of mitch mcconnell. i think mitch mcconnell would have been run out of town. >> i love nancy pelosi. i consider myself a feminist. i didn't see that as a gender related question. mitch mcconnell lost he would have been asked. >> would have asked the question of john boehner whether he should stay there or not and nancy's place here you got to look at the fact republicans have more seats in the u.s. house than they've had since 1929 and certainly at that point you have to start asking questions do we need to get new leadership? we ran newt out of town and we had a majority of four. >> if you listen to the rest of
the bite because it's amazing she goes on to make this point which is accurate as we discovered yesterday. she points out that they have not put on the cover of "time" magazine when she became the first female speaker of the house in the history of the house of representatives on the day that the republicans won and boehner became speaker he was on the cover of "time." last week when the senate became republican mcconnell was put on the cover of "time." she goes on length on this topic. she never occupied the cover of "time" magazine solo. it doesn't have to do with these questions whether she should step down now. but she had a burr under her saddle and not wrongly comparing the attention that those leaders got. >> i would agree because jeremy i was on the floor the day she got sworn in as the first female speaker of the house. it was an extraordinary day. >> that's right. i don't think you with minimize the very real hurdles and bias
she has faced, any woman in politics in a leadership position. that said i've been there when that question has been asked of mitch mcconnell. i know it has been asked. >> there you go. >> the other thing is that before the election, we were hearing very real concern, kind of nervousness that if republicans lost just how much bedlam would let loose and there would be a leadership purge, i garage you. >> i heard more discussion about ronald reagan running for office and being president in '69 than i've heard to date about hillary clinton. i don't see it. >> speaking of today top clinton aides, friends and donors with an eye to 2016 will descend on the bill clinton presidential library. they are celebrating its tenth anniversary. event also reflects the talk of the next potential clinton campaign another white house run by the former first lady. still there's some concern that democrats are getting ahead of themselves. during panel discussion former obama adviser david axelrod
urged the former secretary of state to quote get out of the cocoon of inevitableability. he added i think the danger for secretary clinton is that as was the case in 2007, her zandcy is out in front of the rationale for it. does it match? >> it's a fair statement. >> good way of putting it. >> she did not have a clear rationale in 2007 other than it was her turn and she was the inevitable candidate. that was a huge problem for her. she eventually found the message but too late in the spring of 2008. right now a lot is demanded of her to come up with a message early. she still has time. david's point seeing right at this moment beyond now it's her turn, her time there's not a clear articulating rationale for the candidacy. >> how do you get out of the
cocoon of inevitableilty. >> you shouldn't have come out with a book. >> how do you know everybody assumes you are. >> elizabeth warren has got to stake out her turf because there's no assumptions she will be the candidate. if you're hillary clinton you have to act as if. you run a successful business even when it's doing great as if it's in trouble. that's what you have to do with a presidential campaign. the great key to success in business even when you're on top run it as if you're going out of business. >> run scared. >> ask yourself the question, right now if elizabeth warren decided tomorrow she was going run for president nobody would have any lack of clarity why she was running. you could explain that in two sentences. right now hillary clinton you can't explain in two sentences. >> one of the famous moments, mika, in presidential history over the past 30, 40 years was when ted kennedy was going to
run in 1980 and everybody presumed he was going to destroy jimmy carter and he was interviewed by roger mudd who he considered to be a friend and roger mudd asked him the question, why do you want to be president? and it was the most pained tortured awkward response. he could not answer that simple question. and bluntly his presidential campaign never really took off and never recovered. hillary clinton right now couldn't answer that question. if somebody got a microphone in her face and asked her why do you want to run for president it might be the same thing. she couldn't even promote a book this summer. >> that's my question. >> without falling over herself. i'm wondering for somebody who has world renowned status like bill and hillary clinton they are known internationally, their name recognition will never go away. >> right. >> if for the past two years she had not come out with a book, had taken time off, kind of
disappeared almost and gone into hiding, do whatever she needs to do to sort of recover from serving as secretary of state which is a recovery process, it's exhausting, those jobs, would she be in a weaker position to run or a stronger one when she comes out of the box? >> if i were in her position -- >> or a book that comes out later on a real issue. >> if i were in her position i would be glad that i went on the book tour and had as many mistakes as i had because that would tell me boy i am not in mid-season form. this is not june of 2008. i better get ready this time. so maybe it was a disastrous pre-season. >> that was useful. >> and that's going to be useful. >> she was good on the stump for candidates this fall not to the point where she has a rationale for a candidacy. she was going good. she was very good --
>> what would she have lost by not doing anything? >> very hard for her, i think, to dropout of sight and go into a reclusive posture. >> she was campaigning, basically, in a shadow campaign form, coming out with a book. what would she have lost -- >> had not written the book? not very much. she might have learned a lot. she learned a lot even from the mistakes she made. >> as much as it's rationale, part of the problem is obama. you have to be -- she was part of his administration. he's been in office for years or will have been. clearly voters have soured on the guy. if he's in bad straits with poll numbers. >> you give us the answer. >> just tired of people just are ready to change. >> that's what i mean. >> it's as simple as that. her picture comes on, i just want to see -- >> she and jeb bush represent, i
really do believe this, a sort of sclerosis that's not only begun to clog up washington, d.c. that doesn't work, but american society at large. look at the fact that the rich keep getting richer. poor keep getting poorer. washington doesn't work. the irs doesn't work. the va doesn't work. there are no new ideas. this was the most shallow campaign that's ever been run other than the one that was run two years before that, other than the one that was run two years before that. they are campaigns about nothing but spending more and more money, more and more crony capitalism, more and more about k street throwing in money and wall street throwing in money and your answer is for an american electorate that are starving for something new, another bush and another clinton 25 years later. it's like south america somebody said in the 19th-century.
think about this. a bush in the white house in 1980. in 1984. in 1988. a clinton '92. a clinton in '96. a bush in 2000. a bush in 2004. not eight, not 12, in 16, in 20 you would have had a bush or clinton in the white house in 36 of 44 years. that is the definition of political sclerosis and that, to spend half a century that way between two warring political families, that is about as bad of a condemnation on this constitutional republic as i could imagine. >> except they are not warring. they are. >>gram friends. >> that makes it worse. actually that makes it worse. >> don't forget the last clinton in the state department. >> there's new information coming in on the fight against isis. iraqi officials tell the associated press that government
forces have just driven isis militant from a key oil refinery town 140 miles north of baghdad. isis is joining forces with an al qaeda linked group in syria. according to the ap the militants met at at that farmhouse last week and audiotape goode to stop fighting each other. new audiotape which nbc has not yet verified suggests leader of isis was not severely injured or killed in an air strike. joining us from across the syrian border in turkey, nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel. richard? >> reporter: well, a lot of things that you just mentioned. first, the town where isis has been holding on to a key oil refinery the iraqi army has been trying to take it for months. according to iraqi officials justin last 24 hours or so they have managed to take another portion of the town, but frankly iraqi officials have claimed
this before. the iraqi government does not have much credibility in announcing its offensives. i would give it more time to see how much they really control the town and how much authority they have on the ground. the other report that isis and this al qaeda-linked front in syria are now making peace, eve also heard that before. those groups have a very similar ideology but they've had leadership issues in the past and it is not clear at all that they are now on the same sheet. i think eventually that will happen but i'm not sure if it's happened yet. in terms of the latest abu bakr al-baghdadi audiotape, i think that is probably the clearest development that we have so far. this is a recording, sounds very much like abu bakr al-baghdadi. in it he's making new threats, calling for new recruits and certainly does not sound as iraqi officials said last week that he was killed. >> you can catch richard engel
recording the battle against isis tonight at 9:00 p.m. on msnbc. richard, thank you very much. and jeremy peters, thank you as well. still ahead on "morning joe," alan alda, governor scott walker and yao ming join the conversation. plus kim kardashian's break the internet moment will finally be addressed here on "morning joe." >> we've been waiting. >> you know who will help us with this? suzie essman. she joins us in a few minutes. an odd couple for the ages. what brought the world's tallest and shortest living men. we'll being right back. >> love that picture.
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we want something else. >> it is now, we got emmy award winners alan alda and candice bergen. that's huge. they are now sharing the stage in the broadway show "love letters." this is an extraordinary concept. it's not fathom of the opera. there's not fog. a lot of broadway lately has become catchy and effects with people dangling from the audience. concept here pretty radical by 2014 standards. i can't wait to see it. tell us about it. >> we come out on stage and we read the letters between these two people who met in -- >> fourth grade. >> fourth grade. and then their letters extend over their whole lives and in the course of that you find out that they have never -- they are drawn to each other just like any two people in the world, they are drawn to each other but
can't quite fall into total sync. >> it's two actors you don't ever look at the other actor u-sit facing the audience side-by-side at a desk. it sounds thrilling, doesn't it? >> it actually does. you all just sort of look at each other for a little bit at the end, right? >> i never see her. never see her. the brilliance of this, your can't describe it. you got to experience it. the brilliance of the writing is such that given this minimal thing we're describing of the way we do it, you feel these people's lives. >> you go through christmas cards and you go through all this correspond and you always wonder was true love a lot closer to me than -- >> they are more in love than they know they are in ways that they don't understand. >> when we think about the two you doing this, who signed on first. did you know, candice that al
was going to do it? >> we have the same agent. >> there are different pairings doing this. how did you know you guys would get to be this love couple. >> we both said yes. that's the way it works in life. you have to say yes you just can't not say no. >> at the same time knowing you guys -- >> it just seemed ideal. >> the addition of the audience has been so much fun. >> it helps a lot. >> they not only laugh all through the play which sometimes came as a surprise to us because lines we thought were just normal speech turned out to be funny. because we are just playing the scene. but then you get the audience, when these characters get in trouble, last night a woman started sobbing and you could hear it from the stage. one night when they got in trouble a guy in the house went, oy! >> just quickly about the black list. >> yeah. >> i lost my head on the black
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and i indicated to speaker boehner several months ago that if, in fact, congress failed to act i would use all the lawful authority that i possess to try to make the system work better. and that's going to happen. the minute they pass a bill that i can sign, that fixes our immigration system, then any executive actions i take are replaced. >> i had maybe naively hoped the president would look at the results of the election and decide to come to the political center and do some business with us. i still hope he does at some point. but the early signs are not good. let me tell you who did get the message. and that was senate democrats. i think they got the message on the keystone pipeline. that's why you've seen the current majority in the senate have an epiphany and have a vote
that they have been blocking. >> president obama and mitch mcconnell talking about immigration and keystone pipeline two big topics dominating the conversation on capitol hill. one of the lawmakers who helped give republicans control of the senate, senator-elect cory gardner of colorado. congratulations, sir. >> congratulations, cory. great to have you with us. we heard so many great things about you. many people said you ran the best campaign of 2014. that's like going on the air and saying i'm not a witch. >> had a lot of good people around me. >> one of the things that was striking to me on election night, when you won, you know, so many times people get elected and they clinch their fist and say this is our time. but you said something that really stuck out to me and i thought it was great. you said this isn't about republicans, this isn't about democrats, this is about a washington that doesn't work. we have to fix it. how important do you think that was to your victory, not some
ideological wave. >> i think it's the colorado way. if you look at colorado in 20808, 2010, 2014, this is a state that's electing people based on what they think they will do to break the gridlock not what they will do for their party or deposition or republicans and that's what we have to do as a whole as a nation as congress is making sure we're approaching at any time same way for all of america. >> we covered your race closely. i talked about the "denver post" endorsemen. what did do you when you opened up the newspaper and found out the "denver post" had endorsed you. >> i'll never forget where i was. i was at a press conference with the governor. we were at one of the roads that had been destroyed in the flooding last year. and my staff came up and told me right there and i was stunned. so for the first time at a press conference i was really, really quiet. they were very happy with me. >> let me go down the checklist here. unfortunately, there's some voices out there that mitch
mcconnell doesn't appreciate. talk of a government shutdown. is there anyway you could support a government shutdown or a default on the debt as mitch mcconnell was saying yesterday there's no way he ever could. >> absolutely not. there's no time, place or purpose of a government shutdown or default. that's ridiculous. something that a mature governing body doesn't even contemplate. so over the next several weeks, over the next several days as we put together that agenda the first 100 days of accomplishment to the american people, we ought to make it very clear that simply is not acceptable. >> if republicans have a rob with immigration then they need to take it up that way and not by shutting down the government >> republicans need have a solution. republicans have to have ideas on immigration reform. i support immigration reform making sure we start where american people want to it start, border security. bring a small guest worker program because that has to be part and parcel of border security. but to simply say no i believe is unacceptable. just to say no to everything is
unacceptable. that's the message that american people sent on tuesday night. the president needs to do the right thing and work with congress. >> you say you just can't say no to everything. what issues do you think you can meet in the middle on that perhaps your party didn't do so much of in the past. >> i think there's opportunities to put a number of bills on the president's desk in a bipartisan fashion whether it's the keystone pipeline that we're about to do with bill cassidy or making sure we repeal the medical device tax, making sure we're putting solutions forward to grow our economy, get our country back to work and prove to the american people that tuesday night's lessons won't be forgotten. i said on election night coloradans are not red or blue but krystol clear like the rocky mountain air. they want congress to do its job and get out of the way. >> i'm curious the exit polls were screwed up in colorado. we don't know in a definitive way what percentage of the hispanic vote you got.
have you guys done that, do you know what the answer? >> there's various reports showing higher than what mitt romney had in terms of 2012 but the bottom line is this. we were reaching out. we went into the hispanic communities across colorado in one county in pueblo county in colorado one of the largest counties in the state, we did very well. in fact i think we may have tied with senator udall or lost by a couple hundred votes. we made significant inroads and because we've talked about the need to grow our economy, education, opportunities, things we can do together. >> if the president goes ahead and goes this executive action on immigration do you feel the next step is for congress to take it up as he's suggesting and try to do a bill that would meet the president's criteria have a pathway to citizenship or do you think immigration reform be dead if he goes ahead and does this executive action. >> i hope to president will do the right in this. tuesday night sent the message to all of us we should work
together. to me the right thing isn't to use a bully pulpit to force your way or maintain the monopoly because you think your ideas are the only ideas. the bottom line the house and senate should work together. people said we've tried to do that. it can take time. let's get together. let's work. let's use this new era of goodwill if that's what you want to call it as an opportunity to do something instead of talking about it or do things that create bigger problems. >> congratulations on winning. your position of work together. what do you say to a ted cruz in your party who basically says the president is a man of lawlessness, we need to repeal health care, the entire direction of the party should be to stop president obama at any cost. so, let's give mr. cruz a little religion, if you will, on kind of your -- >> what's your obsession with ted cruz. seriously. everybody in the mainstream media brings up ted cruz. >> everything is opposite -- >> ted cruz is like alone in his
own caucus. >> i want this new wave. >> he's running for president. >> i want this new wave of republican main stay to say like people like me say boy you were out of line. >> cory, donny wants you to correct a sitting senator before you even are sworn in. >> that's how you make a lot of friends. one of things i think we have to do is simply this. republicans can't object posed to everything. if we're opposed to something let's come up with an idea how we do it better or why our ideas are better in terms of not doing that but doing something different. what we have to do is present that opportunity front, the opportunity agenda, the ways we can do something that matters to the american people. we can't simply say no or be opposed. that i hope is the new way forward for the next two years. >> that's the message for ted cruz. >> for all of us. >> that's the message to american people.
>> he's stirring the pot. >> there's an obsession with ted cruz you and so many people on the left have. >> ted cruz feeds it. >> senator, chow what he stands for, he stands for running for president and getting a conservative faction to follow him that feel disenfranchised up. >> senator i want to follow up on what john was asking. i want to get more specifics out of you which is if you do respond, the republican party does respond to the president with some sort of immigration reform plan to supersede his executive action what do you envision is in that plan. >> i haven't been part of those discussions with the senate or house leadership in what they would do to supersede any kind of executive order. we heard people talk about what it may or may not be. bottom line is we have this opportune in time for the president to do the right thing. to work with congress and the
house and senate and for republican leadership, republicans in the house and senate come together and realize we have to do something. whatever the president does by executive order it won't be the kind of fixes we need to the overall system to make sure it's built to last for the next 30 to 40 years instead of having the pieces and parts that we have today. >> let me skit another way. i know you don't want to shut down the government. there's been some news reported that house republicans may consider a lawsuit over it. is that something that you think is appropriate? >> again, i don't know who is considering a lawsuit and i don't know the extent of executive power. the bottom line is this instead of charging each other with lawsuits or executive action or abuses of power why don't we do what the american people sent us to do, let's work together. be the grown ups in the room. get the job done. >> thank you. >> thank you so much, cory. great to have you with us. senator cory gardnering thank you. bob costas wrote in "the
washington post" that's what john boehner will do. let the courts decide. which seems actually if you got a political question that seems like the way to do it. >> bob costas is not covering football. >> robert costas. >> coming up, our next guest explains what the mid-term elections were really about. >> donny -- >> orchestrate my god look at this. comedian and actress suzie essman from curve joins us next. a secure retirement. a new home. earning your diploma.
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♪ hey. >> yeah. >> is this something >> yeah. congratulations. >> thank you. >> beautiful house. >> so come on i'll give you tour. >> that's okay. in get it. >> what do you mean? >> you know, bedrooms, bathrooms. i get it. i see it. it's beautiful. it's great. >> you don't want a tour? >> you don't need to walk me around. [ bleep ] get out of my house larry. get the [bleep] >> fine i'll take tour.
>> i'm done. i'm over it. i'm turned off. leave. get the [ bleep ] out. okay. >> i'm turned off. leave. joining us now from "curb your enthusiasm," comedian susie essman. >> who says no to a house tour? was i wrong? >> no. >> i do feel -- >> you know what, though, everybody is like -- larry does what everybody wants to do. >> exactly. where is larry. >> he's in l.a. but he'll be back because he has a new broadway play starting february 2nd. yesterday. die the voice over. i know the exact dates. >> how much of that is good. is it like okay you guys are going to fight about a house tour. >> it will say something like larry comes in, gives something to jeff. susie says want a tour of the
house, larry says no, susie gets mad. i'm turned off we just make it up. >> susie, you're at the comedy club tonight, tomorrow. i have a feeling you're going to talk about kim kardashian. >> i'm not. i don't talk about -- because i don't care. that's all she's got. let her flaunt it. what else does she have? that's her talent. >> look how big that blur has to be. >> donny, don't you think she's kind a brilliant advertising person? >> actually, her mom is actually -- although i did, one night, i have to say this, i was on leno. following them. >> oh, my god. >> i turned to her and she said, what's your brand? and she said, my fans. so the answer's no. but her mother's brilliant actually. >> i don't talk about -- i can't give them energy. it annoys me that i even know who they are. >> why does it annoy you? >> because why do i have them in my head? why do i know their napes? i don't follow them.
why are they taking up space in my head? >> exactly. why? what have they done to us? because i know -- i know kris, the mom. and then the kids, kourtney and -- i know this stuff. >> why, why? >> because you can't avoid it. >> i've somehow avoided it. >> no you haven't. who's kim kardashian. what size panties does she wear? you know. >> i don't know. so what are you going to talk about? >> tonight? >> yeah. >> i never know. i'll probably talk about my kids and my husband and my mother who's driving me crazy. >> you got four kids. three of them out of the house. not sure what they were doing. i was asking if they were coke dealers. you said they could be. >> well, you never know what you're doing. >> you never know with kids. you do know you're not paying their rent. >> no, it's incredible. three out of the four. by the way, the empty nest, which you have not experienced yet, every day feels like you're
on vacation. >> really? >> it's amazing. they'll all be home thanksgiving. what's going to happen is all of a sudden what are we doing for dinner? what's for dinner? like i'm the menu planner. they live on their own. they shop, they cook. they come home -- >> they revert. >> three meal, a day, i have to plan. >> you don't miss them? >> no. look, i had dinner with them the other night in the city. i love the adult relationship. i still pick up the check, you know, and then we go to the supermarket and i pay for everything there. but when i'm not there, they're on their own. >> i've been having kids for 26 years. >> you did it wrong. >> i will never be an empty nester. >> how old is your youngest? >> 6. >> i have a 7-year-old. i love it. >> it's wrong at your age, donny. it's so wrong. >> joe, why do i have the kids, you know. >> because donny actually uses the kids, like a lot of people -- >> they're props. >> in college, guys buy cute puppy dogs, walk them across the quad. donny actually had kids, he
actually gets women pregnant because he wanted three, four, five years from now, to be able to go through central park and pick up women. >> he's right. >> he uses his children as props. >> donny, again -- >> -- pathetic human beings. >> i do love them. >> if that's the only way you can get women. what's going to happen is they're going to see your kids, they're going to see you, they're going to think you're grandpa. you have to explain yourself. it's not going to be pretty in the end. >> they think i'm a renaissance man. >> they think you're grandpa. >> good lord. >> can i say honestly i understand the old guys wanting younger women, but i find it absolutely repulsive. >> i always date age appropriate women. >> really? >> i'm not that old, first of all. >> uh-huh. okay, sure. >> 47 is not that old, okay. >> 47? >> 47 is not -- >> get out of here. in what lifetime. >> i'm going to be 57. >> he's lived a rough life.
>> what is your tinder profile say? >> i'm not on tinder. >> liar. >> all right, so susie, when you're talking tonight and you're doing your stand-up routine, you're not going to go the kim kardashian route and you say you don't know who taylor swift is. but you stay away from pop? >> i don't stay away from anything. it's just what's interesting to me. taylor swift doesn't enter me. >> does ted cruz? >> ted cruz interests me. the fact that joe is a denier of ted cruz. >> yes. >> thank you. >> joe's humiliated by the existence of ted cruz so he doesn't -- you just want to say, ted cruz, pooh pooh it, when the reality is he's your guy. >> thank you, susie. >> i like ted cruz. >> what do you like about him? >> he's a good guy. >> what is this good guy? >> this whole i'd like to have a beer with this guy does not fly with me. >> why not? because he doesn't believe what you believe? >> not only does he not believe what i believe, he doesn't believe what he believes.
>> how do you know that? >> i don't. >> you know what, thank you for admitting that. >> i love her. >> really, half of these people i think are char latins. . i think it's just an attention-getting device. i don't think they really believe these things they're saying. >> it's like kim kardashian pulling down her -- >> my husband and i watch you every morning. >> that's nice. >> with our coffee in bed with our little puppy dog. who we have not to pick up people but because we love the animal. it's a sincere -- >> i don't not love my children, i'm just going back to the motivation for having them. >> keep on having them, populate the world. >> you were saying how you don't believe in science. >> i was joking. >> i hope so because if you don't believe in science, then you have to give up everything that -- you can't go to a hospital. you can't have a cell phone. you can't have a toilet that functions. >> susie, you're making me so tired right now. >> you can't have coffee. >> you weren't denying science
yesterday, were you? what happened when i was gone? i took the day off. >> i was so bad -- >> tomorrow is 8:00 -- >> i saw you took a day off. you took a mental health day. >> i took a mental health day. i haven't done that -- i can't remember ever. i always come back on my vacations. i never really take time off. >> well, that's not good, mika. >> i'm going to now. >> what's like your relaxation? >> i went to see my daughter and it was so nice. >> in college? >> yes. and we sat in bed and watched youtube videos. >> she runs like six or seven miles. that's how she relaxes. that's just not good. >> no, who wants to run? >> not me. >> not me either. >> unless somebody's chasing me. >> maybe i'll go to the gotham tonight. >> come, it will be funny. >> this is my girl crush. u.s. is susie, thank you so much. also come back when larry come because we need to keep him in check when he sits here and says nothing and is totally uncooperative. >> does he do that?
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it is 8:00 a.m. on the east coast. welcome to "morning joe." we have donny deutsch and in washington jeremy peters. >> you were right. >> what? >> oh, i know. >> dude's on his cell phone. >> mark my words -- i'm going to take it a step further. he was texting, i bet, before the phone call. >> so he's on his cell phone. the secret services guy, while the other dude breaks into the white house and he's on his cell phone. >> these cell phones are changing our society. >> -- his backup radio inside. >> distracted -- >> he turned off the radio he's supposed to have on because he's on his cell phone and he doesn't want -- it's unbelievable. talk about the scathing report, mika, that's just been released. >> that's the bottom line. this is on the white house security breach that happened in september. the department of homeland security fault secret service
agents for nearly a dozen performance organizational and technical failures. those errors allowed omar gonzalez to jump the white house fence with a knife, run across the north lawn and enter the first family's home. he then overpowered a female secret service officer and ran across the 80-foot east room before he was apprehended. the report states the secret soips's alarm systems and radios did not work properly. a uniformed secret service officer with an attack dog was also allegedly taking -- taking on a cell phone instead of listening to a two-way radio. his standby radio was in his locker. >> what else i don't understand is they had agents that drew guns on this guy and he -- they go, well be we don't think he's armed. so they drew their guns. he ran past them. i think there was even an agent in the white house, inside the
white house, where he came in, drew his gun and said, well, he doesn't look armed. i mean, donny, oh, my god. the guy had a knife on him. that equals armed. if there had been a civilian or somebody walking around the white house, he could have grabbed them. listen, i'm sorry, i don't care who it is. if they're racing there, the presumption has to be they're armed. not that they're not armed. >> either way, shoot them. you're running into my house, if i have a gun, i'm going to take you down. it's almost beyond comprehension. >> shoot 'em. >> look -- >> they're in the white house. >> we talked about this and, you know, this -- let's call it a snafu to be nice. it's just one more example -- >> like a dozen snafus. >> institutions, you know, whether it is the irs, whether it is the veterans administration, whether it is the secret service, you know, where -- >> government doesn't work. >> when does it work? when does it get right? it's stunning.
it's really stunning. >> i think the story here is really about tablets and cell phones. as we move forward, security jobs and other jobs that demand complete focus and attention. the question is is are they going to be allowed to have -- >> there's also the question why you don't shoot somebody once they're inside the white house. because you're presuming they're not armed. >> i read somewhere that it's hard -- an article i read. it's really a lot more complicated to shoot someone in the leg than you think it is. >> yeah, okay. >> at the same time, don't they have taser guns or something they could do to inpempede a ma with a knife? >> we are tracking -- >> at the end of the day, he's a dad. can you imagine what must have went down that day with him, with his kids in there? can you imagine? >> the guy ran right past the staircase to go upstairs to where the kids are. >> that's not even the first
thing. there was a shooter who shot at the white house from way down the street that they covered up essentially for a while. the first family must be absolutely gassed. >> we'll be following that. let's get to the big story. oh, boy, fireworks. >> i think so. >> are we going to see more of the same? is there some sort of diversion from the norm? president obama said this morning he'll move to overhaul parts of the immigration system by the end of the year and it's already raising the prospect of a government shutdown within some circles of the gop. "the new york times" reports the white house plan would prevent the deportation of as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants. it would reform the role of law enforcement, add more security to the border, and allow the parents of children born in the u.s. to get work documents. the plan would also boost opportunities for more legal immigrants with expertise in technology. yesterday, house democrats called on the president to take decisive action even if it came
without full congressional backing. some republicans, meanwhile, are threatening a shutdown, saying they want to hold up the budget. >> let's not do that. >> you've got a "w." a big "w." >> well, let's see. let's listen to what they say about this. because perhaps their tone shows they know they've won and it's time for kind of a new approach. >> are you being sarcastic? >> no, i mean, i'm hoping what we're about to see is a real change. >> -- shutting the government down, threatening default on the national debt -- >> even if he goes forward on immigration? >> we will not be shutting the government down or threatening default on the national debt. >> we're going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path. this is the wrong way to govern. all the options are on the table. we're having discussions with our members. there are no decisions made as
to how we will fight this. >> i think mitch mcconnell said it pretty straight. no government shutdown, right, jeremy peters? >> he did. although it may not be entirely his choice. john boehner once again is having to wrestle with the tea party faction in his caucus and i think what's going -- what's likely to happen here is the president's going to wait until after congress deals with the budget to do anything. so congress therefore can't shut down the government in response to what the president has done on illegal immigration. but i do think there is a serious, serious amount of caution inside the republican party right now. especially among the new senate majority or the incoming senate majority. that shutting down the government would completely squander all of the gains that they just made. all of the good will that they have among the public right now. >> explain that. why do you think that is? >> i think the first thing they want to do -- the first thing they do when they come back, after they're elected, the
majority party in congress for the first time since 2006, is they come in and shut down the government? i think that would look horrible. i think republicans would get blamed for that. >> well, they did last time. >> they certainly did. i will say, it's a little bit different this time because when the president acts unilaterally on just about anything, that has less public support. and we've seen that in the past just this whole notion of executive action on immigration to allow these people to stay here without going through congress. that has proven unpopular. not just in states like arkansas. but in states like colorado and iowa. i do think that's a concern for democrats. >> this was the republicans, blame for the government shutdown in 2013. we've heard a couple of republicans talk about this. but the overwhelming majority are just not going to go there. >> look at what mitch mcconnell
has to deal with in the senate. he has people up for re-election this year in very blue states. mark kirk, ron johnson, pat toomey. they're all in predominant -- obama won state. so he has to grapple with that calculus. that's not the cam k lus john boehner has to battle with. even if the dynamics are different. a shutdown would go straight to the president's desk. i can't imagine -- >> it's not going to do it, they're just not going to do it. >> much more likely for them to put this into the lawsuit they're already going after the president on for his -- >> don't talk about a shutdown. don't talk about impeachment. don't talk about default. you know, you're now moving towards 2016 and have a chance to win the white house and keep it away from the clintons for eight more years. don't talk about those things. >> all the republicans have to do is just stay center right and
not show -- >> the interesting thing about this is twofold, number one, we talk about this -- the republican win would actually energize obama and we're seeing it with that neutral thing. he's starting to double down. he's like, you know, kind of backed in a corner. he's coming out fighting. you've got the hispanics. obviously we know how crucial there are. this will now force republican candidates -- how harsh do they come out against the president? and now the spotlight is back on the fractured republican -- >> i have a prediction. i think they let it pass. write it down. i think they let it pass. they're screaming and yelling from the right. and it just becomes the law. because they don't want to pass their own immigration bill. this becomes the law of the land. the people that are running in the blue states. like you said, the republicans running the blue states say yeah, i didn't oppose it. i didn't like the way he did it.
there are some good reforms there. the right wingers can scream and yell and say he should be impeached. the people running for president, the governors running for president, they can all go, yeah, these were things that needed to happen. it sort of eases it along. the courts are taking the gay marriage debate out of the hands of a lot of republican candidates. >> conveniencconvenience. >> a lot republicans want to win in 2016 who will say let that pass. >> i totally agree with you. i think that's probably the smart strategic move. it's easier to say listen, we're against executive action and put aside the politics on this. that way you don't enrage the hispanic population. but you can talk about obama overreach. it's a simple play for mitch mcconnell and anyone running in 2016. >> oh, lord. and then there's the keystone pipeline which is set for a
house vote today. the issue was fast tracked in large part to the runoff between landrieu and cassidy, both trying to show they can provide for the state. supporters say it will create thousands of american jobs. some analysts suggest the falling price of crude means its market value may be less than it costs to transport and produce here in the u.s. the president, who retains his veto power, weighed in on the issue this morning while on his trip to asia. >> as a policy matter, my government believes that we should just this pipeline based on whether or not it accelerates climate change or whether it helps the american people with their energy costs and their gas prices. and i have to constantly push back against this idea that
somehow the keystone pipeline is either this massive jobs bill for the united states or is somehow lowering gas prices. understand what this project is. it is providing the ability of canada to pump their oil, send it through our land, down to the gulf, where it will be sold everywhere else. that doesn't have an impact on u.s. gas prices. >> major environmental questions as well. do you think he should veto it? >> i think if he vetoes, he proves he's captive to big money on the left. there's just no other way to put it. you look at his own state department. they say this is more environmentally sensitive. having a pipeline, continue to allow trunks and tankers to move this oil around. they say it's going to create 45,000, 55,000 new jobs. is this going to cause this great renaissance of like american -- you know, american
workforce? no. but it's 45,000, 55,000 jobs. >> a massive bargaining chip, is that what you're saying? >> no, what i'm saying is there's no good -- there's no logical reason whatsoever for the president to veto this, other than hard core ideologues on the left who spend billions of dollars on democratic campaigns. don't want him to do it. that is the only reason why. this is donny and sam, this is a growing problem i think for democrats. as a republican, i've seen for some time, oh, gee, this issue is breaking against republicans. we talked about gay marriage before. this is an issue that's going to break against republicans. we're the younger generation. this growing energy revolution where we're going to be the number one producer of oil by 2020 and it's going to cause manufacturing and everything to go down. democrats are actually on the wrong side of that issue. of an historical trend. and somebody has to help them, in my opinion. >> i tend to see the politics
here, which is there's going to be enough support for this thing to probably pass. and the question becomes what did the president get as a let me leverage point for it. in exchange, we'll do these types of environmental regulations on our coal plants so we have a net neutral carbon deal in place. we don't leave in a logical political world. we live in a world where landrieu needs to be rescued in her senate race. >> i've been saying this for a year. you give me minimum wage increase to $9.15 and i will -- >> the crazy part is any point he could have leveraged that for something. now he may end up with a veto proof majority in the senate and have no leverage. >> the president still has the power to say i'm going to veto this bill. i'm going to send it back to you, attach $9.15 minimum wage increase to it, and i'll sign it. you'll see a lot of those
republicans in the senate that are in those blue states that are going to be running in 2016 saying, i'll be be a part of that. we'll see what the house does. >> still ahead this hour on "morning joe," republican governor scott walker join us fresh off his successful bid for re-election. former nba great turned animal activist yao ming will be here on set. coming up, americans are quitting their jobs at a higher ration than any other point for the past six years. >> i've been thinking about it for the past six years. i have quit, i seriously have. at one point, they're going to let me. >> time off. we'll tell you why that's a good thing, next. first. >> bill karins, it is cold out there, my man. very cold. >> it's been a brutal stretch, joe. the snow continues. i mean, when the temperatures are like midwinter, we're going to get midwinter weather. we've got a lot of snow and ice. yesterday, this was very impressive. this happened in ohio. a very strong lake-effect snow band. take a listen.
that wasn't a tree falling. that's thundersnow. the thunderclap you heard. it's pretty cool it happens at night because of the colors of the lightning and snow, it actually shows an eerie green. usually you get really heavy snow rates. in erie pennsylvania, they had 14 inches. bear alaska, there's three hours of daylight today. the sun doesn't come up until about 11:30 and it sets at 2:00. it's 30 degrees. that's balmy by bear standards. it is colder in hot-lanta than it is in bear, alaska. so we're still cold. it snowed a little bit last night but an inch or two from connectic connecticut, rhode island. we're still dealing with the really chilly air in the northern plains with windchills around zero. let me take you through your weekend forecast. today, really not too bad. still cold but not horrible.
saturday, light snow from kansas city to chicago. 1 to 2 inches is likely. by sunday, we're watching temperatures still kind of cool but not horrible. the next cold blast, by the way, comes in monday, tuesday, wednesday. it's targeting the great lakes and the northeast. the northeast kind of avoided this last one. it's going to be really cold next week. we're in the middle of winter, it seems like, doesn't it? you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.
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did "the new york post" really give the mayor -- >> he was late for an important event. >> i think "the new york post" gave the mayor an alarm clock. he's smiling. >> he needs one. it's rude to be late. >> at least he took it in stride. >> it's rude. you can't be late. >> i have never been late to memorials where you ring a bell to commemorate the deaths of people in airplane crashes because i overslept. no, you know what, i may be late once in a while, not as much as i used to. i'm never late because i oversleep. that first event, that is the one event you have complete control over. >> so i think it's also a man/woman thing. i think women are always on time. >> are you punctual? >> that is so sexist. >> like a job interview, a woman will be there 45 minutes ear
ye earlier or a meeting. whenever i have meet holdings that are all women, we're all early. i'm like, oh, my god. then a bunch of guys -- >> joe, will you apologize -- >> i am actually feeling objectified right now, donny deutsch. >> like talking about stupid stuff. >> "the wall street journal." a new report indicates the justice department is collecting data from thousands of phones through devices installed on small airplanes. equipped with so-called dirty boxes which have technology -- that sounds nice. that have technology similar to cell phone towers allowing them to track calls. a large number of innocent americans are also getting snagged by their dirty boxes. >> oh, my. >> we look at the "los angeles times." hatchet and amazon have reached a deal over ebook and -- >> is this a big deal? >> will allow hatchet to set its own prices for e-books. amazon is going to resume the
sale of hatchet books immediately. just in time for the holiday season. which is most likely -- >> but, you know, there's some really good competition. >> a lot of good authors got squeezed in that. >> "the washington post." the presidential bromance between george w. bush and bill clinton has spilled over into social media. somewhat of a hash tag duel. clinton called it a touching tribute before using a hash tag, asking bush 43, quote, how are you still not on twitter. that's when bush took to instagram write, thanks, 42, using the hash tag, how are you still not on instagram. and brother from another mother. >> wow. >> i think it's funny because i think bush burned clinton because instagram is a little bit cooler. >> it is, it's kind of hipper. >> but you know what, bill clinton's advisers obviously trying to keep him from posting
pictures. i mean, you can understand, right? >> yes. >> bush also had this to say about a potential 2016 matchup between his brother and hillary clinton. >> can still like him when jeb beats hillary. you betting on that? >> if jeb runs -- i don't know if he's going to run, i really don't. i hope he does because he'd be a great president. >> there you go. >> nothing tests a bromance like when your son is competing against your best friend's wife. >> it's just a little too close, you know. >> sibling, yeah. >> just weeks after winning re-election as governor of wisconsin, scott walker is already planning some big change, for the badger state. he'll tell us ways first on his agenda next when "morning joe" returns. they're still after me. get to the terminal across town.
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lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. basically call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass. >> professor numbnuts here wasn't the worst thing to happen to obamacare this week. on friday, the supreme court agreed to hear another legal challenge that could kill the law. the last two times i declared
obamacare dead, i dropped balloons and twerked on the grim reaper. looking back, i think that was a little immature. so tonight we're going to slow dance. jimmy. ♪ just close my eyes and i need you ♪ >> all right. joining us now -- >> weird segue. >> that was a -- >> republican governor scott walker of wisconsin. that had nothing to do with you. good to have you on the show. nice to see you again. >> mika, i'm with you. i like to be early. we call that lombardi time in wisconsin. i don't think men are usually on time ever. that's nice to know. >> it's a safe -- >> coach lombardi used to say if you're not 15 minutes ahead of time, you're not there on time. >> i don't think i would have been able to play with the packers in the 1960s.
>> you need to learn. >> scott, obviously, a lot people talking about you this morning. kimberly strasle has a great article about you in "the wall street journal." she says this, scott walker's 2016 challenge still give a lot of republican leaders pause about scott walker as well. the wisconsin's dynamo's good but the knock on him is he knows it. he has a reputation as a one-man band. chief fund-raiser. and chief political analyst. he's known to listen to a few trusted wisconsin gurus. for the most part, it's an -- i could go on and on. that is actually the only negative part in an otherwise very strong -- very strong article about you. but obviously the age of obama, we worry about sort of these lone wolves that don't have a lot of other people around them. do you agree with her assessment? "the wall street journal's"
assessment? >> i thought it was a pretty good column. the one part, no surprise, i disagree with. i'm going to be meeting with a number of members of my cabinet. you can see it. i'm going to talk with them again. just as i did last wednesday, the day after our re-election. in fact, one of your biggest fans is my secretary of tourism, going to meet with this morning. an emmy award winning former host of a tourism show here in wisconsin. that's the people we surround ourselves. my political team, i've expanded the circle of folks on the team. even after the initial election. we added some folks nationally because we knew we'd have to raise the funds and get the interest that -- >> so scott if somebody had told me that in 2008, in wisconsin, that the next election, you'd have a guy run who would win
three statewide elections in four years that conservatives loved in wisconsin, i would have told them they were crazy. what's happened. how have you done it over the past few years without betraying your conservative ideals? >> certainly wisconsin at best is a swing state. we're probably more of a blue state. more democrats than republicans four years ago. everything was democrat. governor, assembly, senate. majority of seats in the house of representatives. we changed things because we focused on fiscal and economic issues that were challenging our state and really our country at the time. and then we did something unusual in politics. i think more than anything the reason why i've been elected three types, the reason why the legislature added republican seats even after adding them two years ago, added them again this time, is because we're leaving. our reforms are working. $3 billion worth of savings. property taxes are down. tuition is frozen.
110,000 new jobs. all those things are real tangible results. i think people like the reforms. they like results. they like the fact that unlike washington where it's largely dysfunctional, we're largely getting things done. >> a lot of factors that go into a decision to run for president. so i won't ask you if you will run. i'm just wondering, do you want to run for president? >> well, i get a kick out of this. i'm pretty candid. you almost have to be crazy to want to run for president. my belief is -- >> are you crazy? no. do you want to do it? would you want to run for president? do you want to run for president? >> the difference is i think you shouldn't -- that's not something you should want to do. anybody who's been close realizes the tremendous sacrifice. but it's one of those where if you feel called to -- right now, i feel called to be governor. 2, 6, 12 years from now, who knows. we could be called to do that.
it's really something, when you think about taking a decade and committing that to the public service that's required to be effective in that job, i mean, you look at this president, look at the former president you were just talking about. there's a lot of gray hairs that come after a decade of seeking and being in that office. >> you've gotten -- there's been some attention given to some criticisms you've leveled towards governors who decided to take the medicaid expansion. you've made the argument kind of in practical terms. you said you don't want to count on congress to deliver those funds. i'm curious, in ideological terms, republican governors deci decided are not genuine conservatives. is there an ideological criticism to this? >> i'm not going to criticize fellow governor because i recognize there's 50 states. what's good for wisconsin may not be good for other states. besides the practical reality you mentioned, this president
and congress until now hasn't been able to fund the current medicate commitment. beyond that, i just ask the basic question. why is more people on medicaid a good thing? i'd rather find a way, particularly for able-bodied adults without children, i'd like to find a way to get them into the workforce. i think ideologically, that's a better approach, not just as a conservative, but as an american. have more people live the american dream if they're not dependent on the american government. >> could you be a support of the common core and be a good conservative? >> again, everybody's got a different view in my viewpy don't want standards set by people from outside of my state. that's what we're continuing to pursue. my state has the second best act scores in the country. so i'd like high standards. i just like the parents and members of our communities here in wisconsin to set them, not people outside of my state. >> there's interesting talks earlier today about wall street
worrying about governor christie in part because of his testament. we sort of contrast that with your even keeled approach. i'm wondering what role do you think temperament plays not just in a presidential campaign but in governing and how important it is. >> it's a little different state by state. christie's a great friend of mine. one of the things i point out -- i've said this in front of chris. i said chris and i are a lot alike. we like to be bold. we like to speak out. i have a little bit of a midwestern filter. that's a little different from the state i'm in versus new jersey where i think it's appropriate. that's why i love him for it. he's straight forward. i like to tell it like it is. i just tell it in midwestern terms which is a little different than what works on the east coast. that's one of the great things about great leaders. they fit the states. >> that new jersey filter works for him. governor, thank you. still ahead, we've got a behind the scenes look of a great of
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gets out of the way. >> these two impulses of having a mission and being a successful business don't need to be at odds. they can be aligned. and if the mission is chosen appropriately, they should be. >> generation flux. >> cool. >> generation flux. >> coming in very nicely. >> it is. >> it's a very heavy -- >> what do we have next? >> time for business before the bell. cnbc's sara eisen joins us open in. let's talk about retail sales. >> showing .3% gain. it shows strength in the american consumption. important, makes up most of our economy. if you take out oil, which has been lower, sales were even better. they were up half a percent. it showed broad-based strength. americans buying autos, spending more at restaurants.
spending more on clothing. on health care. the only sort of negative one was electronics. but that was partly because the last month actually showed the spikeup with the release of the new iphone 6. that was expected. overall, painting a solid picture of americans and retail spending. it just follows on some better day that weem seen it looking at the jobs number, you can go in and find more color. for instance, this week, we got a report showing most americans are actually quitting at the fastest rate that they've been quitting in years. 2% of employees are quitting. that's actually a good sign because it means they have the confidence to go out and find a job elsewhere. hopefully, that will lead to increased wage growth is really the missing piece of this labor market recovery. i just thought it was interesting that more americans are feeling good about their jobs so they can quit. >> i like it. that is a good sign. up next -- >> i quit, by the way. >> take this job and -- >> people won't believe you if
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yao is a man of action. he doesn't just want to be a part of the message, he wants to lead the way it as he has always done. and that means walking side by side with fants and ry s eleph rhino in africa. >> really it's a race against time to get people to care su sufficie sufficiently. >> i believe if you want to learn what the truth and also the situation about an animal, you have to go to africa so we can see how they live, how they've been hunted and what is the consequence of them. >> a new approach is needed.
can yao carry this message home and carry thousands of years of tradition putting ivory on the no go list for millions of consumers? >> that was a clip from the animal planet special saving africa's giants with yao ming. here with us now is retired nba baseball superstar yao ming and the executive producer of wild aid peter knights. it's a fantastic special you put together. especially for people who are not familiar with the poaching epidemic happening internationally. so explain for us first why you wanted to put this documentary together and why you wanted to partner with yao ming. >> we worked together for a long time, mainly on shark fin soup. so as you said, people don't know about this. they don't know where it's coming from. especially in china. this film has aired in china. it's going to go worldwide.
it's really about education. most people when they know they wouldn't go near ivory but they don't. they don't understand the process. >> so american consumers can know what to stay away from. >> well it's elephants are being poached at the rate of 30,000 a year it 96 a day. one every 15 minutes. at this rate, we're going to lose the elephants in the next decade or so. and then the others are under huge pressure. if we don't do something soon, that will be the case. >> how do you get involved? >> peter came to me, like he just mentioned, almost ten years ago. we have moved to the next part, which is try and change the approach of the elephants and the rhino. we had a lot of the paper to show people how many elephants and rhino are being poached per year, per month, per day or per
minute. so it's really hard to just -- i mean, sit there. we like to film this, go to africa, film this and bring back and try to reach many people as we can and have more people join us. >> i heard edward norton there narrating. you say you've got a lot of people. a lot of high-profile people involved. >> it's been amazing to -- the pickup in china. also the chinese government has donated tens of millions of dollars of media space. we have messages going out at 7:00, prime time. >> fantastic. >> has the chinese government taken an aggressive anti-poaching approach? >> it is very aggressive. i think we started a law that the penalty can be death if you ship any of the ivory or rhino horn back to china.
but still there's a black market there. and demand there. you can't change that. when the price is there, there's people doing that for money. >> again, it's about education. the awareness. i didn't know about this. i went on safari over a year ago and i learned when i was in south africa. the porous border especially with mozambique where you can find where the poachers are coming in. there was definitely an issue with the rhino and the fact they were losing the population of the rhino. speak to what's being done to protect them and also repopulate. >> the thing is, it's a bit like the drugs trade. the demand is strong. the killing goes on. people are losing their lives. rangers. some of the money is going to finance groups like al shabab and things like that. the efforts on the ground, you know, it really is an uphill battle. obviously, i was in africa two days ago. all the governments are saying we have to address the demand. if we don't address the demand, we're not going to succeed. >> we hope everybody pays attention to this.
it's fantastic to have you on board. as a part of this. because you have a successful campaign with what you did with the shark fin issue. >> fantastic. >> yes. you can watch saving africa's giants with yao ming on animal planet next tuesday, november 18th, at 10:00 p.m. eastern and pacific times. yao ming and peter knights. gentlemen, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> really good work, we really appreciate it. >> up next, it we learn anything today? >> i think so.
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it's unbelievable. >> donny deutsch is not on tinder. >> what did you learn? >> i learned something in the green room. interviewing susie for my book. first of all, no is the most powerful word in hollywood. she gave me the most amazing negotiating advice. >> what was that? >> it will be in the book. that's all i'm going to say. she's amazing. >> all right, kids. thank you so much for watching this week as always. we really do appreciate your patience. >> no, everyone likes you. >> tomorrow. alabama against mississippi state. "daily rundown" is next. we'll see you monday. multitasking on the other side of the globe. president obama comes out even stronger on keystone and lets republican leaders know he's not budging on immigration. meantime, back at hope, a
bid committee. >> a beautiful place to be. >> "nightly news" is next. at 5:00, the stanley cup finals. >> good night. on our broadcast tonight, plan of action with heavily armed fighters working their way across iraq. president obama lays out the options for u.s. military power. tonight, what's on the table, what's not with iraq on the verge of collapse. bergdahl's return, the army sergeant held captive by the taliban for five years now back on u.s. soil, tonight an update on his transition to american life and what he knows about what's been said about him. the surge on the southern boarder with mexico, an exploding number of children flooding into the u.s. illegally. tonight we're there with a firsthand look at this growing crisis. and dear dad on this father's day weekend, a new father on our team gets a preview of what is to come.
"nightly news" begins now. from nbc news world headquarters in new york, this is nbc "nightly news" with brian williams. good evening, their name is isis, heavily armed, ruthly motivated fighters, they carried out daytime crucifixions to make their point and swept from syria to the east and are rolling across iraq, and on their way, they have taken over major cities, some oil facilities, u.s. weapons and vehicles. make no mistake, what is happening in iraq now is a direct out growth of the u.s. decision to invade the country over a decade ago. the question of what the u.s. should do now, what it can do, the president talked about that today. >> we're not going to allow ourselves to be dragged back into a situation in which while we're there we're keeping a lid on things and after enormous sacrifices by us, as soon as we're not there, suddenly people end up acting in ways that are not conducive to the long term
effects of the country. >> what we've come to know as iraq could fall, it appears iraq is headed for partitioning, if indeed, that hasn't happened already. we want to begin coverage with richard engel back in iraq after living there for much of the decade. richard, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. today the president talked about days to consider options but many iraqis aren't sure they have days before this fight reaches baghdad. militants from isis are 40 miles from baghdad and they are growing in number joining forces with other sunnis who opposed u.s. backed shiite government and former military officials from saddam hussein's regime looking for any chance to get back into power. isis also now has the money to buy allies. it stole $450 million from the
mosul central bank. the governor told nbc news today making it the richest terrorist group in the world. and after robbing mosul, today isis imposed islamic sharia law there ordering women to wear vails or stay at home. out lawing freedom of religion and barring all other armed groups from entering the city. and the men the united states trained to fight the isis assault, they are still surrendering. some told us they were ordered to by commanders. without the army's protection, hundreds of thousands of civilians are leaving mosul. they are building tents as fast as they can. there is a massive wave of people fleeing homes. the fear here is that this is just the beginning. this family, all 12 of them walked 20 miles to escape mosul. now at a refugee camp, a mother of five calls iraqi troops
cowards, says she would be better fighting than them. but today this conflict may have changed, today the committee awoke. in the holy city where islam was surged in battle 14 centuries ago, volunteers signed up for a new war. clergies called the faithfully to arms and promised those who die fighting isis, a place in paradise. the war is closing in on baghdad where it is tonight. >> the people are worried that when you speak to them, you sense there is fear about perhaps the unknown would come. >> reporter: tension in the capitol, the u.s. freed from a dictator but fears it is once again in the cross hairs. and brian, as we talked about last night, there are still several thousand american contractors and u.s. diplomats in this country. many of them at the embassy in baghdad. the state department won't say if extra security procedures have been put in place but i can
tell you in some of the streets not very far from the embassy, the locals are barricading homes. brian? >> richard engel in the north of iraq for us tonight. thanks. you heard the president say he's considering options, none of them are good. while the u.s. is making it clear, the iraqi government needs to step up, chuck todd there with more, chuck, good evening. >> reporter: the president chose his words carefully. laying the ground work for possible military action but he also had a clear message for iraq's political leaders, any american help comes with conditions. in a hastily arranged press conference, the president outlined his options quickly eliminating one of them. >> we will not be sending u.s. troops back into combat in iraq, but i have asked my national security team to prepare a range of other options that could help support iraq security forces. >> reporter: but even as he
hinted at some military action, targeted drone strikes the most likely, the president made it clear help won't come if the prime minister doesn't stop shutting out his sunni adversaries. >> the u.s. is not going to involve itself in military action in the absence of a political plan by iraqis that gives us assurance they are prepared to work together. >> reporter: the president didn't stop there. he went on to blame the government for the performance of the security forces. >> the fact that they are not willing to stand and fight and defend their posts indicates that there is a problem with moral ultimately that's rooted in the political problems that plagued the country. >> reporter: and illustrating how this crisis created strange international problems, the president called iran to help but never mentioned the name. >> iraq's neighbors have responsibilities to support this process. nobody has an interest in seeing terrorists gain a foothold
inside of iraq. >> reporter: iran's president took to the airways yesterday promising iran would quote not tolerate the terrorism in neighboring iraq. the president who is keeping his weekend schedule, which includes down time in palm springs, said a decision whether to get involved military is not imminent and it's that delay that spurred criticism by republicans on capitol hill. >> this request is made to take action with drone strikes. it is far past time for us to take a decisive move here. >> reporter: brian, two reasons the president is hesitant, first, pentagon officials say their intelligence is not good enough right now to launch strikes and they certainly don't trust information from the maliki government. they said he won by promising and delivering american withdrawal from iraq so the last thing he wants to do is go back in. >> chuck, thanks. >> we're joined by david gregory, moderator of "meet the press."
he's in our washington newsroom. david, how does the president sell any action at all to the component of the american people who feel to coin a phrase, it's not our dance after the blood and treasure spilled there even though to coin another, we broke it? >> right, that pottery barn rule you broke that you own it, you got to somehow fix it. this is a terrorism problem, brian. that's what the president made clear today. this is not about the civil war in iraq or a neighboring syria. those are certainly involved in a really the foundation of this. the reality is you've got terrorists who are much greater in numbers going to the number of foreign fighters perhaps even at 10,000 between syria and iraq. this could be a real threat to the united states. the american public may not want to get involved again but the president has to outline the fact it's a core belief of his that he cannot allow a failed
state to emerge while saying politics is at the root of it. he's not going to help unless the iraqis demonstrate they will help themselves. there will be a debate about that. >> david, i saw at least one news organization fond of branding isis as the group too extreme for al qaeda. what about al qaeda in all of this? >> well, this is really a fight for what al qaeda is going to be, post osama bin laden in the middle east. you're right, there is branded an organization that's too extreme for al qaeda. that tells you how awful it is. i spoke to one source who said this is worse than afghanistan before the 9/11 attack. so that might draw in iran that doesn't have a good relationship with al qaeda, either. >> david gregory, in our newsroom. the situation in iraq will be among the major top picks covered on "meet the press." among david's guest, mitt romney. he will sit down for an exclusive interview.
for this nation's military men and women, those who served in iraq the pictures are confusing and tough to watch. it was a big topic at the home of the unit known at the time as the tip of the spear. fort steward, georgia where the third infantry is based, nbc's stephanie gosk is there for us tonight. >> reporter: in the spring of 2003 the u.s. military's third infantry division from fort steward was among its first to fight its way to baghdad. there were four deployments in total, more than 400 soldiers killed. >> you don't know what the outcome is going to be. >> reporter: he served three tours as a combat engineer, the guys at the front of the front line. do you ever think we should never have been in there in the first place? >> no, i don't ever have that opinion we never should have been there. we was called on to go, and we went there. we done our part. they got to do it on their own. it's their fight.
>> reporter: each person we spoke with here has strong opinions about iraq, whether they fought or not because in a military town, everyone feels like they have been at war. ellen mark's husband fought in korea. she thinks the u.s. military did pull out of iraq too fast. >> they should have left some back and brought them back in smaller quantities at a time. >> reporter: at the opening of a brand-new va clinic, there was a sense of relief that years of combat are finally ending and there is not a lot of appetite to go back in. kerry harvey was a tank commander in the first gulf war. >> we can't keep putting soldiers in harm's way over and over and over again. you know, somewhere it has to stop. >> reporter: no one we spoke with here wants boots back on the ground. does the u.s. have a role now? >> we have a supporting role, yes. but we don't have a role in fund. we should assist them from the back. >> reporter: for the war weary,
the battle to secure iraq now feels like somebody else's fight. stephanie gosk, nbc news, georgia. the uncertainty over the crisis is having, as you might have guessed, immediate economic impact at home. iraq is the number two oil producer in opec. analysts say gasoline prices will go up five to ten cents a gallon in coming days following an increase in crude oil prices for a second day today. their highest levels now in ten months. while the attention on much of the world is on iraq, russia is moving tanks and heavy weapons into ukraine to aid russia and back separatists there is. the tanks and multiple rocket launchers were moved into ukraine yesterday and are now being spread out across multiple cities in the eastern portion of the country that has been the center of so many of those violent clashes of late. tonight, u.s. army sergeant bowe bergdahl back on american soil after more than a week in a u.s. military hospital in
germany and five years held captive by the taliban, nbc's katy tur is out brooke army medical center tonight, katy, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. he did the first two stages of his reintegration in germany and will continue onto the third here in san antonio. he arrived around 1:40 a.m. last night on a military plane and was immediately taken to the medical center. here, they will start the process of helping the now 28-year-old make decisions for himself one. one of those is seeing his parents. they are not here now and so far he hasn't had contact with them. doctors say it is up to him to decide when he is ready to reach out. now when asked if sergeant bergdahl is aware of the controversy surrounding him, no, he is not. they wouldn't go into many details about his state of mind, whether he's happy, sad, excited or nervous but they did mention one of the things that he is starting to request is peanut butter. in the coming days, he'll
undergo more comprehensive testing, including conversations about just what happened during the five years in captivity. brian, there is no word on exactly how long he'll be here. >> katy tur in san antonio for us tonight. thanks. still ahead for us this evening, crisis on the boarder this friday night, a sudden surge in children all alone making their way into the u.s. illegally and later, that luxury home teetering on the edge of a cliff in texas, we'll show you what happened to it today. texa what happened to it today. two medium cappuccinos! let's show 'em what a breakfast with whole grain fiber can do. one coffee with room, one large mocha latte, medium macchiato, a light hot chocolate hold the whip, two espressos. make one a double. she's full and focused. [ barista ] i have two cappuccinos, one coffee with room, one large mocha latte, a medium macchiato, a light hot chocolate hold the whip, and two espressos -- one with a double shot. heh, heh. that's not the coffee talkin'. [ female announcer ] start your day with kellogg's frosted mini wheats cereal. with whole wheat goodness on one side and a hint of sweetness on the other, it's a delicious way to get the nutrition you want.
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officials. we get our reporting tonight from nbc's mark potter on the boarder in mission, texas. >> reporter: in a field near mission, texas, boarder patrol agents gets four young men and teens from central america. but the agent in the chopper spots something else and it's a startling sight. a young man who had been hiding in the mud after entering the country illegally slowly crawls out of the field to join others. he's part of the wave of more than 47,000 unaccompanied children, mostly central americans picked up at the u.s. boarder. >> in the last 90 days, it's gone through the roof. >> reporter: the surge puts a big strain on his department. >> the river is shallower, as you can see. >> reporter: along the rio grand, he shows us where the water is so low, the immigrants simply walk into the united states keeping his and other officers so busy, they have little time for other boarder police work. >> it takes a group of officers
leaving other areas unattended where something else can come across. >> this is the neighborhood where i was raised. >> reporter: dutch piper says it's so bad immigrants have been hiding in his yard. >> by the time i got in my vehicle and made the call, they were gone. >> reporter: undercover video shows seriously overcrowded conditions facing newly arrived immigrants at the u.s. boarder patrol station in mcallen. advocate groups allege young arrivals are being mistreated. federal officials say they are scrambling to improve conditions and praise the overworked agents. >> i've been watching them do absolutely heroic efforts. not only rescuing children but taking care of them way beyond some of the skill sets. >> reporter: skills constantly tested as more desperate kids cross the u.s. boarder every day. mark potter, nbc news, mission, texas. another break, we're back in
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about that house we showed you about that house we showed you earlier this week teetering on the eroding cliff on lake whitney in texas, it was condemned because the collapse was inevitable. today the owners received permission to set their own house on fire. they figured it would reduce the amount to tear down and salvage from the lake below and after becoming fully evolved, most of it burning in place. president obama focused on the struggles of native americans today. he made a visit to the standing rook reservation home to about 850 people and where unemployment is 60%. with that in mind, the president talked about job creation and education among other things. with his visit today, he becomes only the fourth sitting president ever to visit an indian reservation. tonight in the pacific
northwest, an era is coming to an end. jean enersen is signing off as anchor of king 5 in seattle. she's been described as the queen of king, the brand and the franchise. jean was the major market female anchor in this country and the longest serving. she won't mind us saying she turns 70 on monday and been on the air for 46 years. she's a proud stanford grad who went on to get two masters degrees and traveled the world and brought her viewers along with her. she was the first local tv anchor to report from china. put it this way, if you're a 50-year-old living seattle, jean anderson has always been on tv in your viewing lifetime. it's with respect and awe that we add our congratulations to our friend. well done. when we come back on a friday night, one assignment they have no trouble completing. you'll hear tributes to dad this 2014. completing. you'll hear tributes to dad this 014. l fibrillation,
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finding a way, words to thank that special guy in their lives. tonight's final assignment goes to a guy whose about to celebrate his first ever father's day. our report from peter alexander. >> father's day is on sunday. what we're going to do is make something personal that you can give to your dad. >> reporter: in fairfax, virginia, these second graders are from all over the world. they speak nine different languages, but when it comes to dad, they have in problem finding the words. >> i love my dad because he helps me with my homework. >> he works hard for us and cares for us. >> i love my dad to pieces. >> i love my dad in pieces. >> today's project, a hand made gift for the first man they ever met. >> i love my dad because he is fun and reads with me. he takes me places that i like and sometimes buys me ice cream.
>> thank you for all that hard work you do. you're awesome. >> a few miles away, jason knows for a lot of dads ties are a can't miss. >> what are you doing? >> a father's day message. >> but here the good old coupon book is also making a come back. >> jump on his back. >> reporter: you're going to jump on his back? >> yeah, he likes it. >> reporter: it's an assignment these seven and eight-year-olds have been preparing their whole lives for. >> he makes me smile. >> he tells me jokes. >> reporter: even for families where father's day traditions might be new. >> i love you. [speaking foreign language]. >> happy father's day, daddy. >> happy father's day. there you go.
wishing a happy father's day to all. thank you for being here with us. i'm brian williams, we of course hope to see you right back here on monday night. have a good weekend. we'll leave you tonight with pictures of a darken and stormy friday the 13th night here in new york and up and down the east coast. good night from new york.
on this sunday night, ambushed. two police officers murdered because of their uniform. what happened in the hours before the attack and what can be done to calm a city and country on edge. outbreak, the disease making a big comeback. where is it and what is it and how can you protect your family. mystery on the cape that has wildlife experts stunned. turtles washing ashore in historic numbers. and striking a chord. a program using music to help alzheimer's patients find their voices. this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt, substituting tonight, carl quintanilla. >> good evening. we're learning more about the events leading up to the
shooting deaths of the two new york police officers, an attack that has sparked anger and anguish around the country. investigators have chased the gunman's activities ahead of the ambush including the moment he told pedestrians, watch what i'm going to do. meanwhile a memorial as neighbors remember the police officer. stephanie gosk begins our coverage. >> reporter: hundreds have come out to support the police officers and their families and promote peace. we're learning more details of this crime. investigators believe the gunman acted alone and on something of a shooting spree. it began when he first allegedly shot his girlfriend, who is now recovering in the hop. he then traveled up to new york where he staged the deadly ambush and where he staged the deadly ambush right here in this neighborhood in brooklyn. investigators now believe 28-year-old suspect ishmael
brinsley was motivated in part by rage toward the police. look closely at instagram messages that were likely posted by brinsley in the hours before the shooting. a photo of a silver gun and reference to the deaths of eric garner and michael brown. they take one of ours, let's take two of theirs. one hash tag reads, shoot the police. brinsley, who killed himself after being chased by police, had 15 prior arrests, including a felony charge for weapon's possession. police say rafael ramos and wenjian liu didn't even see him coming. >> they were, quite simply, assassin ated. targeted for the uniform. >> reporter: ramos' 13-year-old son posted a message to him on his facebook. everybody says they hate cops but they are the people that they call for help. i will always love you. the head of the police officers
unions blamed protesters against heavy handed police tactics. >> there are blood on many hands tonight. those that incited violence on the street under the guise of protests. >> reporter: and they also hold the mayor responsible. officers turned their backs to him when he visited the families of those that were killed. he said it's unfortunate in a time of great tragedy, some would resort to irresponsible overheated rhetoric. today mayor rudy giuliani blamed part of the responsibility at the feet of president obama. >> we've had four months of propaganda, start with the president, that everybody should hate the police. >> this is a former nypd officer. >> it is time to protect the police and we do that by toning everything down. >> reporter: he asks that the
protests stop while the officers are buried. the family of eric garner spoke out. >> we don't want you to use eric garner's name because we are not about that. these officers lost their life. >> reporter: in a tragic twist we are learning that the baltimore police department issued a apb for brinsley at 2:40 and a minute later it came over the radio. a minute later. >> we're joined by charles ramsey, recently named co-chair of president obama's task force on 21st century policing. commissioner there is so much emotion surrounding this case and police work in general. what does a leader or mayor or a
citizen do to foster community right now? >> right now i think everyone needs to take a deep breath and step back a bit and slow down on the heated rhetoric. i think that is part of the issue that led to this, quite frankly. so we need to have thoughtful discussion. this are a lot of serious issues that feed to be carefully thought through. but certainly going to extremes in terms of the rhetoric is not helpful at all. >> new york mayor de blasio is criticized for not lending support to police officers following the eric garner case. has he created a more volatile situation in your opinion. >> i don't know about the politics of new york or what is going on. but i can tell you this, bill bratton will guide his community through this. it is difficult. and i've gone through it here with police officers murdered in the line of duty. and bill will get them through.
it is a matter of time. >> thank you for your time. bill ramsey is the commissioner of the philadelphia police department. as the investigation into the sony hacking scandal, the president opened the door to actions that could further isolate north korea. joining us now, kristin welker who is traveling with the president in hawaii. kristin, good evening. >> reporter: carl, good evening. as the debut swirls about how the united states should respond to the cyber attack against sony, the president has given one indication of what action he might take. in an interview aired today, president obama said his administration will review whether the cyber attack attributed to north korea amounts to state-sponsored terrorism. >> we have very clear criteria as to what it means for a state to sponsor terrorism. >> reporter: the designation would mean tougher economic and trade sanctions against north korea. but still president obama was measured in his language. >> i don't think it was an act of war. it was an act of cyber vandalism
that was costly and expensive. >> words that drew sharp criticism when republicans who have consistently argued mr. obama's foreign policy isn't strong enough. >> it is more than vandalism. it is a new form of warfare we are involved in and we need to react and react vigorously. >> north korea was taken off the terror list by president bush who was trying to strike a deal with the country. but would that matter to a country already steeped in sanctions. >> there are already dozens and dozens of sanctions on them going back to the korean war. >> the economic impact is not large but the political impact could be. >> reporter: meanwhile president obama continues to hit sony for not reaching out to him before pulling the movie "the interview." >> had they talked to me directly about this decision, i might have called the movie theater chain and distributors and asked them what the story
was. >> reporter: on "meet the press," the sony lawyer fired back. >> on the three weeks that sony fought this, nobody said what a terrible this is. none of them were standing up to help sony then. >> reporter: sony said they will release the film and the president is promising a response. >> i think we need to look to the options and we have to respond and deter this kind of behavior in the future. >> reporter: north korea issued a lengthy statement today saying the u.s. government's assertion that north korea is responsible for the cyber attack is, quote, groundless. carl. >> kristin welker in honolulu tonight. thanks. and now to california where they are deeping with the worst whooping cough in decades. some worry it might spread to other states but that is not the only concern across the country.
here is hally jackson. >> a mother terrified as she was forced to listen to her daughter gasp for air. >> reporter: the doctor treated the 9 month old and wants to express the importance of treating against the illness with anti-biotics. >> the parents don't see the disease and they assume it doesn't exist and when they assume it doesn't exist, it can come back with avengence. >> reporter: close to 10,000 cases have been reported this year with worries it could spread. >> there is no predicting it could go, but i assure you it could set up shop in anyplace in this country. >> reporter: and many are watching what could be a rough flu season since this year's vaccine prevent against the virus. and now it is widespread in 29
states. >> the season is not over. it is just beginning. >> reporter: mumps has been prevalent. in 2013, 438 were reported. and including viruses found in the national hockey league. they share certain cold-like symptoms. the flu comes on fast with a high fever. whooping cough starts slowly, characterized by a fast cough and then a whooping sound as the patient tries to inhale. mumps which is far less common involves painful swelling of the glands in the cheek and neck. experts say getting vaccines will help. that is what might have helped little aubrey. with her cough gone, the sounds she makes now are much easier to listen to. a massive government spending bill was signed into law this past week designed to keep the government up and
coming. for many in congress it was the last order of business this year. and many seemed gitty to head home to their own districts. but buried in the budget are things that might surprise you. we get more from chris jansing. >> reporter: if you printed it out, it would be nearly a foot high. and tuck add way in -- tucked away in thr3000 pages are thing not even most of those who voted on it know they are in there. >> christmas tree legislation. where there is a gift for everybody and many of the gifts aren't opened up until later down the road until we find out what is in them. >> this is a budget bill that attaches money to many items. specific spending to keep guns away from the mentally ill. for the west coast to deal with the record drought and to stop the poaching of rhinos. but a lot is less about government spending than
specific opportunities. cattle ranchers won't have to get epa greenhouse gas permits for a different kind of gas. cow flat you'llence and belching which the government believes leads to climate change. vending machines blocked the offered to of the $1 bill. and so no makeover for george washington. and rules now require truckers to get more sleep. >> people rightly feel that the special interests are the ones that run the show and that the ordinary american is left out. >> reporter: so many provisions tacked on, that the debate on any one thing is aware, like travel for money in las vegas and florida.
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aquarium hospital. everything jotted down. the turtled identified by the numbers on their shells, all part of annin vedible effort to rescue these ancient features stranded on cape cod bay in numbers. >> this should be the black and the edges of the shell, these should be nice and crisp and white. >> connie leads the team that has treated 700 turtles in a month and a half. >> these are injuries that should be solid like this right now. >> reporter: some have holes in their shells and many have n pneumon pneumonia. >> i can hear the wheezing. >> and that is not good. >> reporter: almost all are malnourished and suffering from hypothermia. >> they are coming in at 35 or 40 degrees. >> reporter: they become the temperature of the water and at this time of year the water is cold. at high tide on a blustery morning matt darcy combs the
beach for turtles. >> are these ideal solutions? >> this place is perfect. you can see the winds pushing it into this corner of the cape. crosby beach is in the crook of the cape cod arm, 2,000 miles from where they begin in mexico, riding the warm waters of the gulf stream up to cape cod bay. normally 90 sea turtles strand on the cape. this year it is 12 hundred and counting. most are the critically endangered kemps ridley turtles. no one knows why they are stranding in such news. >> it is hard to believe this is a good story. >> reporter: they say conservation efforts are working. >> two years ago in 2012, this year class of turtles left the beach and it was 600,000. that was the most baby ridleys leaving the beach in mexico. >> for more than -- more than 80% survive and are sent back into the ocean.
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reversed the decision 70 years ago that led to his execution in the electric chair. the judge said he was the victim of fundamental constitutional violations of due process. for his family, great relief. >> i was jumping for joy. and i said at last someone is listeni listening. >> reporter: the case began in the string of 1944 in south carolina. a tiny segregated mill town where the brutally beaten bodies of two white girls, 11-year-old betty june betticer and mary tems were found in these woods. shortly afterward the boy was charged with murder and his family run out of town. officers said he confessed to the killings and there is no evidence of that. and at his trial, there was no evidence presented and the defense put on no case and the jury reached the verdict in 10
minutes. >> after he was convicted and sentenced to die, his court appointed lawyer never filed an appeal. had he done that, his execution could have been delayed for a year to allow for further review. but at a court hearing early this year, a south carolina legal team fought to clear stenny's name. >> what we want is the truth to come out. >> reporter: his two sisters and a brother said he was with his family the whole day the girls were murdered and could not have killed them. >> as aco oersed complaint fault confession, it is not reliable. >> relatives of betty june betticer still believes stinny is guilty but her sister believes that justice has finally been done. >> he could have been any great person. but he was cut down too early. >> reporter: a teen-ager put to death and buried here in an unmarked grave. mark potter, nbc news, manning,
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feeling of having stuck in your head a song. [ singing ] >> reporter: that is what this story is about. the music we can't shake off. >> that is where the magic comes in. >> reporter: mary leonard and marg are the founders of giving voice chorus. inspired by what stuck with them. >> we both had parents with alzheimer's. my father. >> my mother. >> and we decided to work together. >> reporter: which is why the twin cities now has a choir for alzheimer's patients. >> she knew something was wrong with me because i would start to forget things. >> reporter: when the diagnosis came at age 56, it hit sherry parks and his wife karen. >> it's -- it's. >> reporter: like a brick.
>> it is a horrible disease. it robs its victims of themselves and of every they are. >> reporter: but the thief that is alzheimer's has a more difficult time prying away our songs. >> it is stored in a part of the brain that is last effected by alzheimer's disease. the emotions, the joy, the fun, that humor that came with singing when they were 18 or 24 or 40 comes back. >> reporter: rehearsing weekly at mcveil center of music, the choir is split through memory care patients and their caretakers. this woman's words jump and it is frustrating. >> sometimes she can't say it, right? but she can sing the songs. >> reporter: mother and daughter crushing stigmas together.
>> it is just uplifting and it is wonderful. [ singing ] >> reporter: so don't fight that song stuck in your head. it's just there waiting for a day you may need it. for nbc news, boyd huppert, minneapolis. and that is "nbc nightly news" for this sunday. brian williams will be here tomorrow. stay tuned for football night in america followed by the seahawks versus the cardinals. i'm carl quintanilla reporting from new york. for all of us here at nbc news, good night.
good morning, it is friday, august 1st. oh, look at that. >> oh, dear lord, where did july goes? >> time flies when you're having so much fun. welcome to "morning joe," everybody. >> time goes a lot faster. boom! >> with us on set, we have pulitzer prize winning columnist and associate editor of "the washington post" and msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson. pulitzer prize winning author jon meacham is here. >> we have so many pulitzer's here. >> won the masters in '86. wasn't it odd three or odd four? >> we have breaking news so if we can just move forward here. >> right, willie? >> in washington, senior political editor and white house correspondent for the "huffington post" sam stein. >> never won a pulitzer.
>> he has so many years ahead of him, though. >> what did we win our pulitzer for, willie? >> it was fan fiction we wrote. >> yes! that is it! >> i think it was a how to. >> that was it. did you forget what year it was? >> it was odd three. >> i can't remember what summer it was. >> they run together. >> can we go to the breaking news now? >> i'm confused. >> read "the new york times" website. >> it is still saying this morning at 6:01 that a cease-fire in gaza conflict takes effect and, yet, breaking news came over the wires a couple of hours ago that i read industri industiously and typing away. they don't give up a lot of resources in "morning joe." then cease-fire is broken. >> the associated press is using the word unraveled. >> cease-fire continues. >> it describes a lot of heavy
firing back and forth. >> it is a scene we could tape where willie is smoking and reading the ticker. >> unbelievable. both sides are accusing the other of violating the truce. palestinians claim at least four people were killed in heavy clashes. prime minister netanyahu, his office says terror groups blatantly broke the cease-fire. follows another day of fierce fighting. pen members of a palestinian family were among 17 people killed thursday in israeli air strikes. five israeli soldiers were also killed in a bombing and officials say militants fired nearly a dozen rockets into israeli an hour before the cease-fire with went into effect. this is really not a cease-fire. this is as close as you're going to get, i guess. we have live coverage from gaza and israeli now following the breaking developments. joining us from tel aviv, nbc news correspondent martin fletcher with the latest. >> it looked good about an hour, mika, then, unfortunately,
things started to unravel. you used the word unravel but very heavy fighting. the early news that four palestinians have been killed by shell fire from an israeli tank. the health minister is now saying 47 palestinians have been killed this morning since the cease-fire went into effect. so we don't yet know why the fighting break out. the original israeli report that palestinian gunmen emerged from a tunnel in the south and attacked israeli soldiers where upon the israelis began to respond, so israeli is blaming hamas and hamas is blaming israeli so this is just happening now. we need to be careful about how we say who started it and who is fault it is. the bottom line is that this cease-fire, which everybody was -- in which everybody placed so much hope 72-hour humanitarian cease-fire joining the two sides would meet in cairo and hopefully negotiate a way to end the hostile its, is pretty much over by now.
i really hate to say it but it seems that way. a report that the israeli officials have told the united nations directly the cease-fire is over, but we haven't yet heard that officially but the death toll is mounting and the fighting is heavy. mika? >> martin, it's willie geist. how could anyone going forward believe in or trust any cease-fire that comes about? and everyone we have talked to and everyone you spoke to said the only way for the two to take a break and sit down and talk talk and come to some kind of agreement. what is the way forward? no trust for the two sides and never has been frankly. how does this get resolved? >> reporter: how does it get resolved? >> simple question, right? >> reporter: i wish i knew. >> come on, buddy! >> reporter: but always it is the question. i suppose at this moment only one way which is, first of all, this is the fifth cease-fire but it was the first one in which both israeli and hamas had
together agreed in doing it. and it was, the heavy support of president obama and the united nations. this looked as if this was the one and unraveled in almost immediate. you know what? basically, until each side realizes the limit of its own force and the other -- understands the problems of the other side and accepts them and wants to deal with them, there is really no end to this. eventually there is going to be an end to this round of fighting. it will happen one way or another through a truce and maybe israeli say we destroyed the tunnels that was our main goal and withdrawal unilaterally and probably the way it will end but the third round of fighting within five years. >> martin fletcher, thank you. >> now let's go to nbc news correspondent ayman mohyeldin. set the stage after the tragic hours after a cease-fire was announced. >> reporter: i think the right
word to describe it is an implosion of a cease-fire. i can tell you what a difference a few hours makes. we woke up this morning it was very quiet along the beach here in gaza. we started seeing, within an hour of the cease-fire, dozens of families, children, and even gaza's fishermen setting sail to go out for the early morning catch. within an hour after that as reports coming in from the fire taking place and the sounds of shelling we heard and fighter jets and rockets launched into israeli word spread quickly along the beach that this cease-fire had collapsed and you could see in a matter of minutes people were off the coast and fishermen heading back into the way. let me bring you up-to-speed what we are hearing on the ground here. we have confirmation from the hamas delegation that is supposed to be heading to egypt and egypt shaun officials saying they can't travel into egypt and meaning no talks taking place as scheduled today and comes from one hamas official scheduled to be part of that delegation participating in the cease-fire talks. we are getting some snishl
casualty reports from palestinian health officials here on the ground who are saying as a result of that ongoing fighting taking place that at least 27 palestinians have been killed. that is just in the early hours of this morning since that cease-fire was supposed to happen. there are still a lot of questions as to how the actual cease-fire broke down, but no doubt that palestinians are blaming an initial attack by the israeli military in the positions that they had in the southern part of the gaza strip. again, that is the palestinian side that is coming out of hamas official and health officials here. it's very difficult to confirm the exact sequence of events but you can imagine that there is going to be a lot of trading accusations how this broke down in the coming hours. joe? >> and i wanted to ask you about what you're hearing on the ground. obviously, you're right there in the middle of it. you have been during the entire crisis. and the united states, we are trying to figure out how blame is being assigned. obviously, obviously, a lot of anger at israeli in gaza, but
what is the attitude toward hamas? what are you picking up about this was obviously a faction growing increasingly unpopular in that area. is any blame being assigned to hamas or is this actually just reinvigorating them as a political force in gaza? >> joe, when we talk about hamas as a political organization there is the distinction made between them as the ruling political institution here in gaza and then ultimately as a palestinian resistance movement and, more specifically, its military wing. i can tell you that palestinian resistance, the military wing as it's seen here is very highly revered. people do not criticize the resistance fighters as they see them on the ground and those are the people that are engaged in the fight so to speak against the israeli soldiers and behind some of these attacks that we're seeing. when it comes to hamas as a
political organization, there is a long list of criticism against it as an organization. here inside gaza, over how it has conducted so many of the domestic decisions, the political infighting with other palestinian factions. some of the severe measures it has taken and imposed on people here, but that is not the opinion of palestinians when they are talking about it in the middle of a war. when you go out and you hear palestinians talk about it, when you see the news reports that are coming out that the military wing of hamas has carried out an attack, it is widely celebrated here and seen as a symbol of defiance that its fighters are capable of carrying out an attack on one of the world's most popular military despite the fact they are under siege and going up against a well-funded modern army. that is how the reality is here on the ground. it doesn't mean that hamas is above criticism among palestinians but whether it comes to theish of fighting they are perceived differently particularly its military wing, which is the most powerful in terms of the ongoing fighting here. >> ayman, gene robinson is here with "the washington post" and so he doesn't have to tell you,
but i will. he has won a pulitzer prize. go ahead, gene. >> ayman, first of all, take care of yourself over there. second, so hamas -- >> thank you. >> -- at least the political wing could not have been happy about a negotiation a next meeting set up in cairo, they are enemies of the current egyptian government. do they or do you see a route through much hamas could even negotiate a real cease-fire? >> reporter: well, that is a really good question and probably one of the hardest questions to answer for two reasons. one, hamas itself is having a little bit of internal divisions. you know, you have the exile comril leadership of hamas and engaged in direct negotiations with qatar and turkey on their behalf but, at the same time, a little bit of resentment
internally here that some of the hamas leadership don't want them making decisions on behalf of the people that they are not directly in tune with. now that is not necessarily lost on the decision makers aboeed but nonetheless that has been one of the difficult issues. but as you mentioned, there is a little bit of hostility now between hamas and the egyptian government, they simply don't trust them. it used to be a three-party negotiation. it used to be hamas and egypt and israeli. now it's become a six-party negotiation now that the united states is involved, turkey is involved and qatar is involved, so you is imagine how complicated the talks are taking as they bounce around the six different parties. >> jon meacham is here. he won a pulitzer too. go ahead, jon. >> ayman, an impression in the united states right now there is sort of two levels of combat going on. one is the israeli attempt to plug these tunnels and the other, the rockets and the tanks. can you describe what the combat
feels like? is that a correct impression that you have something going on above ground and below ground? >> reporter: absolutely. when this conflict started, israeli, it launched its air campaign to stop the stated objective was to stop palestinian rocket fire. there is no doubt that as the ground operation began and israeli began to suffer some serious casualties in the first week of the fighting, it emerged that perhaps the bigger threat, other than the rockets to the israeli civilian population, was this underground system of tunnels that hamas has been building for years now. i don't think anyone had a good comprehensive sense how complex the tunnels were and deep they ran into israeli and the positions it exposed within the israeli military establishment, particularly that along the gaza border. that is why we are seeing a spike in israeli casualties like we have never seen before in conflicts. i've covered two separate conflicts and this by far has the highest casualty toll for
the idf and more than the previous two combined. that is a game-changer with respect to the palestinian fighters here and why we are seeing israeli is reluctant to withdrawal until it completes the job of destroying these tunnels. i've spoken to palestinians who have actually been involved with these tunnels how they are built and they have a good understanding of them. unless israeli is willing to follow the entire length of the tunnel into gaza, they can block it, they can destroy it on their end, but they are saying within a couple of months, these tunnels can be reopened. we have seen that hamas and other palestinians factions have been digging dunels acro inging border with egypt for years and they have not successfully been able to stop the tunnels across the southern border and unless there is a political solution, these tunnels will be a massive security headache for israeli for many, many years to come. >> nbc's ayman mohyeldin, thank
you very much. >> thank you, ayman. one day before the first plane struck the world trade center on 9/11, former president bill clinton was in australia speaking about the terror leader who was just hours from changing the course of history. listen to this. >> i'm just saying, you know, osama bin laden is a very smart guy. i spent a lot of time thinking about him and i nearly got him once. i nearly got him. and i could of killed him, but i would have had to destroy a little town called kandahar in afghanistan and kill hundre 300 innocent women and children and then i would have been no better than him, and so i didn't do it. >> jon meacham, that is absolutely stung. it's stunning. what is so stunning to me is that it's taken 13 years to unearth that cape? >> how did we not know that? >> this is unbelievable! this is like a history changer.
we had this debate back in, like, 2002 and 2003 and 2004 about could he have stopped him, could he not? now we -- i mean, you're -- >> no. i mean, i think we kind of knew the basic scenario that there was a shot that could have been taken at him and the decision was not to take the shot because of, you know, collateral damage that would of taken place. i think we knew that, but we didn't know it from the mouth -- >> republicans were claiming that and then there were all of these heated arguments. no, we never really had a shot at him. no. there is big push back on that. >> there was a lot of wag of the dog talk because it was during impeachment so there were charges that clinton was trying to use foreign policy to distract the country at the
time. >> we had no problem doing that at the time. >> well, just saying. >> the day of impeachment, he fires missiles into iraq. >> i think it's totally fascinating. the other great clip put together if you're studying this is when, i think it was chris wallace asks clinton at the clinton global initiative a couple of years ago about it and very harshly, and clinton, i think, starts tapping him on the leg and says, you made your bones for fox news now, but here is the real truth. the other thing i think it does, it does show that this was not a subject that was a bolt from the blue. >> right. >> in the national security community in the turn of the century. >> yeah. it's just amazing. fascinating. >> it is. >> fascinating it took so long to find that audiotape. i woned hder how we unearthed t. was that you, willie? >> it was an australian who was there and holding on to the
tape. a palestinian from australian had it and was holding on to the tape that long. >> august 1, '14. >> he put it in a sock drawer and forgot it. unbelievable. >> we had a lot of going on capitol hill last night. things happened. before we go to break, it took one session on wall street to wipe out all of the gains from the entire previous month. did you see this? the dow sunk 317 points. its worse day since back in february. traders don't like what we are seeing from corporate earnings and underlying concerns about the fed's plan to end some stimulus programs. we will follow that. >> it's still at like 17 zillion. there is still a massive divide between wall street and main street. >> you wonder why people were confused. weren't the headlines 48 hours
ago we are growing faster and then the market crashes. >> what is going on? >> income and inequality goes up and the market goes down. ahead, crippling conditions in california. we will tell you about it. baltimore ravens running back ray rice speaks out about his, quote, inexcusable actions against his fiancee. then a fight to save one of nashville's legendary landmarks. willie has that story in our 7:00 hour. later, what it's like to play one of the most influential performers of the past century and he is actually done this kind of thing before. chadwick bosman who almost literally becomes james brown on a movie. >> he is an incredible young actor. willie, you reported on this, talked to mick jagger about it. >> i went down to the set and
watched him transform. he is incredible. these movies hang on the performance whether or not you can believe this guy like jamie foxx in "ray." chad bossman is so good, people will be blown away. >> we have to make this announcement and i want to apologize to all of our viewers. sometimes we invite somebody that comes on and they just take over. it's my job to keep them in line. i failed. i want to apologize to all of you for failing. i promise you, next block, sam stein will not talk as much, all right? >> you won't shut up. >> you won't shut up, sam! come on. he has that beautiful blue backdrop there. sam is looking at it. >> that's enough, sam. >> the guy just hogs it. we are going to get sam and kasie hunt talking about the immigration debacle on capitol hill last night. >> bill karins with a check on the forecast.
>> i'm sorry to say it but looks like we will end the amazing beautiful weekends on the east coast and one of the first rainy weekends we have had the entire summer so i know it's hard to complain but if you have beach plans or plans outdoors, let me get to the specifics. already watching heavy rain from north carolina upstate to south carolina and a ton of rain off the coast of south carolina. that is all going to move up the coast during the day today. let me time it for you. 2:00 p.m. today, the color in green means light rain. the heavier rain in the red so at 2:00 p.m. scattered storms throughout the northeast. you wake up saturday morning it's really from i-95 to the coast. we could be talking heavy rain from areas of the delmarva to new york city and long island up to connecticut. then as we go through saturday afternoon, more heavy rain continues. then sunday morning, you wake up and still areas of heavy rain. southern new england all the way back through northern portions of new jersey to pennsylvania. i think you get the picture. it looks to be very cloudy and
if it's not raining, at least appreciate it. the middle of the nation you're looking fantastic. no problems on much of the west coast either. for the most part, it's just going to be the eastern seaboard. we are going to keep the rain and the storms lingering on and off right through your upcoming weekend. the grass definitely needs it in many areas, but, obviously, your weekend plans do not. the rest of the nation, as i mentioned even into sunday, looks excellent. we also do have a tropical storm out there and looks to be a no impact whatsoever to the east coast. close call but it should make that turn out to sea. tropical storm, though, for puerto rico on saturday. you're watching "morning joe." new york city, enjoy the dry weather while it lasts. we will be right back. ♪ you read the labels on the foods you eat - but do you know what's in your skincare? neutrogena naturals. a line of nutrient-rich skincare with pure,
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back to the board this morning after failing to bring their immigration bill to a vote. they have to call back members to washington after already had gone on recess. did that happen to you, joe? >> no, we kept people intact. we shut the place down. >> there was that. congre the house security bill seemingly for passage. john boehner took them to task. >> instead of addressing the crisis at hand, senate democrats are talking up some not so scheme to jam through the senate immigration bill even though they know it will never happen. doing something is better than doing nothing. the crisis on the border is going to continue until the president acts but he is clearly not going to act. that means the congress has to
act. so i believe it's important for us to act and i am hopeful that we will. >> boy, talk about getting cut out at your knees. the leadership was forced to pull their border security bill at the last minute as support evaporated after ted cruz had a meeting in his senate office with a lot of house republicans. take a look. >> nobody in that room believes that this bill that passed would make it into law. so what is the point of having a piece of shell legislation? >> we will get the vote. >> how? >> we will get the vote. >> what changes tomorrow that wasn't there today? >> i hope some people grow up. i think this is a good bill. if others don't, that's okay, but we were sent here to vote and not to die and the bottom line for me is if we don't act, the president will. >> so when asked why the bill died, congressman peter king
bluntly said because of ted cruz. >> those two don't like each other, by the way. they are old pals way back. >> a good picture. >> by the way, those are pictures. we got to get better pictures. come on, guys! come on! look at both of those guys! get a better picture than that. come on, t.j.! by the way, send your complaints to t.j. >> reportedly huddled with some house members praised them for not passing the bill but denied being responsible. meanwhile, texas governor rick perry blasted the house's inaction saying, quote, it's beyond belief that congress is abandoning its post while our border crisis continues to create humanitarian suffering and -- >> that's a good photo. also, yesterday, the senate blocked an emergency border funding bill in their chamber backed by democrats. harry reid decided he was going to bring back the entire
immigration reform bill from last year to make sure that it died in the senate so republicans couldn't get credit for anything. sam stein, an absolute mess up there on capitol hill on both sides. yes, it's not false equivalency. harry reid made sure he would kill the bill when it got to the senate and republicans said why pass a bill if he is going to kill it any way? >> yeah. go back three weeks ago when this was a huge humanitarian crisis where the president needed to see it with his own eyes and gl down to the border because of the severity of the crisis and action was needed asap. now neither chamber will pass the bill and maybe the house will do something but either way it's not put into law and a huge indictment in the sad state of our political system and even self-proclaimed crises can go unsolved. i will add this because i think it's worth adding.
yesterday or i guess two days ago now, the house of representatives sued the president or voted to sue the president for taking executive actions. john boehner's statement yesterday after the vote ordered the president to take more executive actions. there is a disconnect there, obviously, that should be noted, i think. >> yes. you noted it, i think. >> i did. pretty well, too, right? >> disconnect is a nice word. >> i think it was a good disconnect. >> joining us now from capitol hill, nbc news political reporter kasie hunt. let's see. trick question. is there any hope? >> in general? >> all hope is lost! >> depends on what you're hoping for, i suppose. >> any messages? >> it's not clear they can do anything this morning. it's absolutely not clear. the moderates in john boehner's conference with absolutely livid on this and some cornered him on the floor from pennsylvania and colorado saying, i can't go home and look my constituents in the
eye and say we have a humanitarian crisis on our border and i did absolutely nothing about it. it's just not a tenable position for any of them. as you were discussing, senator ted cruz had a serious impact here with the meeting he had the night before this all happened. they had the votes. everyone was expecting this bill to go forward, no problem. and then, all of a sudden, we wake up the next day and nothing is actually happening. i will also say that democrats didn't exactly help speaker boehner here and that was pretty intentional. senate majority leader harry reid talked about raising this bill with a comprehensive legislation and that set off fear among conservatives on the house side and that plays into their hands. democrats will say, publicly, we want to pass a bill. politically, this outcome is just fine. >> can i make one point quickly? sorry. >> gosh, you just are taking over the show!
>> we had a great contrast actually yesterday with the v.a. reform legislation. the v.a. reform legislation actually made it through congress and will be signed by the president. in that case, republicans and democrats actually sought each other out. they said, okay we don't like this but willing to live with it and like that and can you include that and they put together an actual compromise. with the border legislation, i don't think john boehner and nancy pelosi spoke once. i'm not sure john boehner spoke with harry reid so you have a very telling contrast. congress can get its act together if they want to but in this case i don't think they ever wanted to. >> on the v.a. bill it was almost unianimous in the house and the senate. it was remarkable for them to see something like that. let's go back to ted cruz for a minute. remarkable a relatively new senator can effectively single handedly if you believe the reports on the record we are getting from republican house members, squash this immigration reform legislation.
how does that work in the halls of congress? >> john boehner's favorite person right now, senator ted cruz. i mean, i do think there were a few more dynamics. jeff sessions of alabama played a considerable role in considering some of the colleagues to vote against this. what senator cruz did is raise the spectra what we refer to is doca a program that president obama put into place that basically allows the children to not be deported from the united states. and he basically inserted that as an issue into this debate. it's why we saw them set up this vote where they were going to vote on the border bill and hold a vote to basically strip the president of that power. cruz sort of convinced this block of conservatives that wasn't good enough, that removing that power from president obama needed to be in the bill itself. and that is a huge problem for republicans who there is a member of the house who represents a district right outside denver and it sort of reflects the nation as a whole. they heavily hispanic.
putting that into the bill made it untenable for a lot of those moderates to vote for it. if it weren't for senator cruz, that portion of the debate would have been a lot quieter. >> nbc kasie hunt, thank you so much. coming up, ray rice speaks out for the first time since his suspension. >> that night, you know, i just replay over and over in my head. you know, that's not me. my actions were inexcusable. >> much more from the ravens star running back next in sports. ♪ vo: this is the summer. the summer of this. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to. where memories will be forged into the sand. and then hung on a wall for years to come. get out there, with over 50,000 hotels at $150 dollars or less.
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ray, what did happen that night? we have all seen the video. >> i just -- i'll be honest. like i said i own my actions and i just don't want to keep, you know, reliving the incident. the incident itself, i'm trying to move forward and every time i have to keep reliving it, it's not -- you know, it doesn't bring -- bring any good to me, so what happened that night was a huge mistake on my behalf and that is what i'll keep it at. >> baltimore running back ray rice yesterday addressing the public after receiving two-game suspension from the nfl no for allegedly knocking his wife unconscious in a casino back in february in las vegas. >> my actions that night were
totally inexcusable. i'll just put this away. that night i replay over and over in my head. that's not me. my actions are inexcusable. and it's something i have to live for -- have to live with the rest of my life. i let so many people down because of 30 second of my life that i know i can't take back. last time, i didn't publicly apologize to my wife and, you know, i realize that hit home with a lot of people. but there is many nights that me and my wife sleep together and we still have to deal with this, and her pain is my pain and my pain is her pain. but one thing that i wanted to do today was, you know, apologize to my wife. >> rice, who still participating in the nfl preseason will miss the ravens first two regular season games. he'll return from baltimore hosts the redskins on august 23rd. staying with the nfl. houston texans running back with a much different kind of press conference.
arian foster doesn't seem to have the warmest relationship with the media down there in houston, but he wants to be a great teammate. keep that in mind. he just returned to training camp this week from an unknown injury. and he gave the same answer to different questions over and over again. >> physically, you're good to go? >> yeah, man, just trying be the best teammate i can be, man. >> can you tell us what exactly kept you out? what is going on? >> yeah, man i'm just trying to be the best teammate i can be, you know? working hard at doing that. >> what was physically wrong? >> yeah, i'm just out here, man, just working hard every single day trying to be the best teammate i can be. >> what does it mean to get back how ear and start working? >> being the best teammate you can be is what you strive to do and what i'm out here trying to do. >> your teammates talk about how they want to see you out here and know what you mean. what does this stuff mean to you, arian? >> when you're the best team malt you can be and work hard at that every sim day and what
we're out here trying to do. >> your body starting to break down? >> i'm just trying to be the best teammate i can be and working hard doing that. >> your progress at being a better teammate? >> yeah, every single day just trying to be a better teammate. >> that was only a portion of his answers and he repeated that line 11 times and don't want to bore you to death. >> stated another way, what he is trying to do? >> i think what he is getting at, he wants to be the best teammate he can. >> stop! what in the world? >> he is working very hard at that. major moves during baseball's trade deadline yesterday. the oakland a's all in now to win the world series this year and trading for jon lester and outfielder jonny gomes when the red sox dumped john lackey who was scooped but by the st. louis cardinals. 12 and a half games back in the a.l. east boston throwing in the towel but look who they got.
c cespedes. they sent over money for stephen drew. the tigers and rays and mariners, detroit acquired cy young award winning pitcher and vanderbilt university legend david price and immediately after the deal a nice moment in detroit. austin jackson find out he is traded to the mariners mid game and pulled out during the seventh inning. >> what? >> gets a standing ovation from the crowd. and hugs all over the place in the dugout as he packs his bags and leaves detroit in the trade. now for highlights. manny machado showing off his arm with a great play on wednesday. last night, he was at it again. >> down to third. oh, boy. here we go. manny machado. gotcha! >> oh, my god. from there, machado putting his arm strength on display. he took about five steps and
still got the lumbering runner, ability pujols. pujols got his revenge in the 13th a single and gave the angels the win. a solo shot in the stands to left and l.a. 2-0 lead. puig gets back to the dugout, the dodgers bust out the bubble machine to celebrate. clayton kershaw pitched an the game. >> a new report breaks down the most unhealthy meals in america. one restaurant fares worse than the rest. mika, get ready for this one. we will be right back. ♪ won't you lay me down in the tall grass and let me do my stuff ♪ ♪ i know got nothing on you (vo) get ready!
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it's time to take a look at the morning papers. from our parade of papers, the san diego union tribune. after 26 years, southwest airlines and seaworld will end their marketing partnership. since 1988, the company has offered promotional opportunities for passengers and theme park guests. southwest faced pressure from animal rights groups to end the agreement amid fallout from the film "blackfish" which drew negative attention to the park's alleged mistreatment of ownrcas. sea world says it was a mutual decision. a federal report says assess of july 58% of california is experiencing the most severe levels of drought on the scale. the news come as wildfires burn in areas across the state. the fire in yosemite national park is in its sixth day firefighters are trying to
prevent the fire from blazing sequoia trees. >> joe needs to change his luncheon dinner rituals. "usa today" a new report from the center for science in the public interests outlines the most unhealthy meals at american chain restaurants. cheesecake factory. >> you guessed it, gene robinson! >> a restaurant called cheesecake factory. >> can i just say? i have a deal. i had a meal at cheesecake factory. >> you walk around and shop and eat. >> in 2004 in san francisco, i am still full. i never went back. >> that's right. >> huge! >> massive. >> let me show you how big. taking three of the top nine spots on the list, number three is the big slab from famous dave's which clocks in at 2,770 calories. it's served with beans, fries, a corn muffin and 1.5 pounds of
meat. you would need to mow the lawn for seven and a half hours, meacham, to work off all of the calories and fat that you ate. >> luckily, his lawn is big enough. it takes seven and a half hours. >> taking second place is the, get this. joe, you can't have this any more. the bruleed french toast. 2,780 calories and 93 grams of fat! why would you make that for anybody under any circumstances? >> because you're hungry? >> that is disgusting! >> the same as eating 14 slices of french toast, aunt jemina's french coast. at the top of the list if they can't remain number one through the year, we look forward to that. >> red robin's monster mill. a burger topped with bacon
peppered jack cheese and peppercorn spread and tomatoes and lettuce and fried onion strips and a side of fries and costing you a staggering 3,540 calories. that is equal to eating seven mcdonald's double cheeseburgers and drinking a quart of soda! >> look at that! look at that sodium count! >> what are they putting in the burger that is seven big macs? that is like kilograms of sodium in there! >> several nations. >> amazing. >> do we have something about sharknado? what do you think of that? we got to finish this one, willie. new york daily news. >> sci-fi sharknado. second one shattered record for the networks and 40 million viewers and up 183% from the original film that aired last year.
that is richard kind hitting a shark out of citifield, by the way. shark it broke twitter records. another sequel is in the works. >> look at that chain saw! >> i love that! yes! take that! >> a nice cut, too, filet. >> right in the middle. >> really unbelievable. >> that's good. >> i actually -- when we had ion on the show, he's a really nice guy and he said we are all in on the joke. i felt better. it's just so bad, it's good? >> exactly. coming up at the top of 7:00. >> a lot coming up. >> are we going to keep talking about immigration? >> and last-minute efforts to try to get something done yesterday and the failures that happened. joe is also going to have a response for hit critics yesterday on the gaza and
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apparently that is a no-no. congressman young didn't take kindly to being delayed on his way in. the exchange also caught on video by nbc news producer frank thorp, pay attention to the staff member's reaction as you watch this. >> oh, no. >> what? what? young later apologized for putting his hands on the young man and said he was in a rush to get to the meeting and he didn't appreciate being stopped but he did apologize. julia roberts was on fallon last night and jimmy fallon showed her this video going around the web of a dog who is frightened by the picture of julia roberts. >> it's a dog who is afraid of your face. >> look. what? do you want to see julia? look at julia.
>> if that dog is watching, he watches the show probably, his name is akmed. you could say something nice to him to the camera and then he will be your friend. >> okay. where is akmed's camera. >> number one? is that akmed's camera? >> aarrgghh! >> you made it work! >> so cute. that's perfect. so good. >> coming up at the top of the hour, we continue to follow the breaking news we reported on earlier. the israeli hamas cease-fire reportedly ends just hours after taking effect. what both sides are saying this morning. plus the big political story out of washington. congress prepares to go on its five-week break with the crisis on the border in no better shape than months ago. do nothing congress at its best. our all-star political panel, is
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and thomas roberts all at the table with joe and me. joining us from washington political director and host of the political rundown chuck todd and moderator of "meet the press" david gregory and sam stein is with us as well. the breaking news from the middle east. reports that the cease-fire between israeli and hamas has unraveled just hours after taking effect. both sides are accusing the other of violating the truce and palestinian officials says that israeli shelling this morning has killed at least 27 people and wounded 100 others in southern gaza. the israeli military, meanwhile, saying militants have firted eight rockets and mortars at israeli since the cease-fire began and israeli source says at least two israeli soldiers were killed and the army says it appears an idf soldier has been abducted. the return of violence is a far cry from this picture captured by nbc ayman mohyeldin showing
israeli returning to the beaches and fisherman with boats and the area had been emptied for weeks due to the fighting. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is threatening to destroy the tunnels by hamas. nbc reporter martin fletcher got a rare look into one of the passage ways. >> reporter: dug through say and claned the tunne clay and sand the tunnels are hard to fight. electricity and telephones and almost six feet high and more than two feet wide. hamas has built dozens of them. this tunnel goes more than a mile into gaza to a town of honunas and in this direction only a few hundred yards israeli it comes up inside in the farming lands. israeli was this close to another tragedy. >> that is incredible. of course, we were talking about
this yesterday and comments you made on the show yesterday blasted over the internet in lots of different ways. >> well, and on talk radio and other places on tv where people like to keep it as simple as possible. what is the quote? >> foolish consistency is the hob goblin of little minds. >> that is why we bring pulitzer prize winners on. as jon meacham said, i think he made this up and why he got the pulitzer. since a foolish consistency of hob goblins adored by politicians. i didn't expect them to have the ability to grasp the statement for do's and don't's of mindless political posturing. let me start with simple talk that simple minded people must understand. america must stand with israeli. hamas they are a terrorist organization who started this confrontation by launching
thousands of missile attacks on the israeli. israeli uses their missiles to protect people and hamas use their people to protect missiles. condemnations don't matter much since the u.n. has long been a hot bed of anti-israeli sentiment. what matters most now is israeli neighbors in egypt and uae and jordan support the jewish state over the islamic terror out of the and turkey and qatar have chone hamas but they are practically alone in the region. israeli long time distrust of president obama and lining up with turkey and qatar in peace talks doesn't help bridge that divide, but an international diplomacy we have got to follow the wisdom of william f. buckley. you take the world as you find it and now how you wish it to be. the reality on the ground in
gaza is clear to all. the prolonged killing of children and women in palestinian territories will only serve to weaken israeli and serve to strengthen hamas. tragically this comes at a time when hamas leadership was on the run. they were hated at home. they were isolated abroad. and then this began. yes, they fired missiles into israeli. why? because they were on the verge of political destruction in gaza. but now every day that goes by with images of children being pulled out of the rubble of bummed out schools, bombed out hospitals, and bombed out marketplaces, is a day that only makes hamas stronger and threatens israeli's long-term security. that's bad for israeli. that's bad for america. and that is bad for middle east peace. and think about this. while you're going down your
punch list of what you think people on the extremes will like. blindly supporting israeli and israeli politicians when their actions may actually be strengthen their enemies and our enemies like hamas is no way to show your support and no way to show your friendship. >> that would make your point clear. >> well, i think it's simple enough but, gene, let's talk really quickly about how hamas, this is a great tragedy. after the humanitarian crisis, hamas, i saw some polls that said over 80% of people in gaza hated hamas, wanted them out. they were forced to strike a deal with the palestinian authority. egypt is against them. saudi arabia is against them. ae is against them. you go down the list. jordan is against them. they were isolated. this is only serving to prop them back up and it's the last thing in the long run that israeli needs. >> i totally agree and i actually wrote to that effect in
a column the other day and i got the same kind of reaction you go so, you know, that is the -- you know, i -- it seems so clear to me that, yes, israeli had to respond to rocket attacks, but this seems disproportionate and counterproductive and, ultimately is strengthening the people that israeli least wants to strengthen, while weakening the palestinian authority and mahmoud abbas in the west bank. he is not the greatest partner for peace, but he's certainly the best we've got over there. and actually is willing essentially to join with israeli to the extent that they can get rid of hamas. >> by the way, where i mentioned egypt is against hamas and uae is against hamas and you can go on and jordan you can list all
of the countries, saudi arabia, i forgot to also mention the palestinian authority. >> right. >> is against hamas! >> right. >> hamas is isolated but all we do when we sit back and blindly salute as these bombings continue and children are pulled out of, like, for instance, yesterday, a place where the u.n. sent israeli notification 17 times, this is a civilian place, do not target and then it's targeted. >> tragedy. >> listen, it's tragic. and it's a tragic humanitarian crisis but that strengthens and isolated hamas. >> this is a case where asiddious diplomatic work pays off in the long run and having some influence in -- within the israeli government is so critical for the united states. i don't think the last six years have been a model or a golden age of that relationship, and what we -- if we're going to
affect change in the right way, we have to be able to reach out, have the kind of personal relationships where you can affect things in what otherwise seems to be an intractable situation. >> david gregory, let me bring you in here on that point. david ignatius had a column a couple of days ago that charles krauthammer, who i've made no secret is a real hero of mine. i don't know that charles will agree with everything i've been saying over the past couple of days but there are a lot of thoughtful people, a lot of thoughtful conservatives, even a lot of thoughtful neocons i talked to yesterday who are very powerful said this is concerning and we seem to be strengthening hamas but david ignatius column they are taking a bad situation and making it worse. john kerry lining up with turkey and qatar who are basically hamas only allies in the region instead of standing with egypt and saudi arabia and the uae was just a dreadful mistake.
i had middle east diplomats call me and say what the hell are they doing? they have friends in the middle east they can stand with and they are choosing turkey and qatar, the two countries that are supporting hamas and it makes no sense. >> to john's point, this long-term diplomacy, i think wins in the end as well, but it's difficult to see at this point where that is going. right? there is a couple of problems with that. i think, look. the point you've been making the fact that the obama administration has been critical of some of these strikes is, in a way, protective of israeli and based our argument which this is not helping. this is only strengthening hamas and not weakening hamas and not achieving some of your security goals. at the same time, you're trying to negotiate a cease-fire with hamas which has as its primary goal to exterminate jews and eliminate israeli. doing some of the things that make better for ordinary people from gaza out of this is not where hamas is coming from and not its primary interest so
where i think the diplomatic road is really difficult. israeli not winning on the public relations front and made a decision as a practical matter degrading the tunnels and eliminating them and reducing whatever capacity they have to fire rockets, possess rockets. they may be showing some gains but i don't know that that is clear to the rest of the world what the metrics to say. everything is about this other damage. >> chuck todd, let me ask you. we were on the three-day preof cease-fire. reports from ayman mohyeldin that a truce was brokered. let's see what we can get israeli to commit to. is it, as david points out, the
building of the tunnels. it works tremendously for israeli billions of our taxpayer dollars helps support that so is it strictly the tunnels? >> i think that was an important change in sort of a quantitative measurement. you heard prime minister netanyahu say it and a couple of days earlier they were making the goal demilitarizing hamas. how do you ever prove that? that sort of sent the message this could be weeks or months before this ends. by saying, look, the goal is to get rid of these tunnels, i thought israeli very subtle way of saying, guess what? we expect to be done with that within the next feud. as soon as that is done, we are going to be a lot more flexible on some of these diplomatic idea. >> the question is where do we go from here? joining us now from jerusalem a spokesman for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> mark, thank you for being with us. why don't you help us out here.
>> good morning. >> good morning. we have been trying to figure out how israeli measures success. a lot of long time supporters of israeli in america like myself that are very concerned by, obviously, the images of children and women being killed in public marketplaces and hospitals. i've heard you mention the past couple of weeks your regret about it. obviously, you agree it's a humanitarian crisis. how do you measure success, those in this operation? how do you measure whether hamas is degraded or nod and how do you way that against the political isolation they were experiencing before this began? >> there is a lot -- you've asked a whole series of questions. the first thing is there was a real chance today to alleviate the humanitarian suffering in gaza by this cease-fire. as you know, late last night israeli time, we accepted a proposal by the united nations by secretary-general ban ki-moon
and secretary of state kerry to have a 72-hour unconditional humanitarian cease-fire and at 7:00 local time in israeli, all of the offensive activities against hamas and the other terrorists in gaza ceased. the idea was to give at least three days for the people of gaza to have time to breathe and to come out of the places where they were hiding, to be able to buy food and the idea was to help the people of gaza. from israeli it was difficult because we preferred to continue the operation against hamas but we understood there was a need to make the humanitarian needs, unfortunately. hamas just torpedoed that possibility. at 9:30 this morning, there was an attack on our forces in direct violation of the cease-fire understandings. a deadly attack. it appears now an israeli soldier was kidnapped in the framework of that attack. and following that, we have had
mortar shells across the frontier and missiles raining into southern israeli. unfortunately, hamas has closed the door to this possibility at the moment of any humanitarian cease-fire. the primary victims of that decision by hamas is the people of gaza who, unfortunately, have to sit by and see this conflict continue. >> you certainly understand and you've said it before, and other israelis have said it, that hamas isn't concerned about the welfare of many of the people in gaza and that, unfortunately, falls on your soldiers and the people of israeli's soldiers, as well as protecting your own people. so the question is what is the end game here? you can't obliterate hamas, unfortunately, as a military force. is it destroying tunnels? is it going after the missiles? what is your end game? >> the end game is simple.
it's not easy to do, but the end game to articulate is simple. we want a period of sustained, quiet and peace for our people so they don't have to live in fear of these incoming rockets fired from gaza and, as you know, that number is getting close to 3,000 now. 3,000 rocks in three weeks. fired at israeli cities. they don't have to live in fear of terrorists popping out from the ground with explosives, with rocket propelled grenades and automatic weapons coming into your house and trying to kill you. our goal is ultimately defensive. if we can be assured that those sort of attacks will end, the operation can end straightaway but the problem is hamas, unfortunately, doesn't see it that way. and so we are in the process at the moment of working to diminish, to slowly take apart hamas' military machine, dealing with those missiles. we believe they only have about a third of the missiles that they started with. they only have a third of them
left and we are taking apart the network of tunnels and the big challenge, as you said, is when this is over, how do we prevent hamas from rearming and prevent them from rebuilding tunnels because that is the issue of demilitarization but that is our goal and it's defensive to protect our people. >> david gregory, do you have a question? >> good morning, it's david gregory, mark. my question is the reality is that you don't see a loss of israeli civilians because of the iron dome system, so some of the pictures that we are seeing in gaza have not been repeated and, obviously, the israelis are quite pleased about that. i wonder, as you look at this, as the national security officials talk about some of the operations that carried out in gaza, is there a price to be paid that is simply too high for israeli to achieve its objectives in gaza? >> well, obviously there are a
lot of bat pictures coming out of gaza. the truth is, like the united states, we don't want to see what the experts call collateral damage. we really are making a maximum effort to avoid seeing innocent civilians caught up in the cross-fire. as a proud israeli, i would say that our forces, i don't think, act any less than the united states does in similar combat situations and i challenge anyone to say that that is not true. we are trying to target the terrorists and their infrastructure and their command and control, and we are not trying to -- we are not targeting the people of gaza. as to the pictures and you raised an important point, david. i think it has to be said and resaid, because hamas rules the gaza strip with an iron fist, it's very difficult to take pictures of anything that doesn't fit the hamas narrative and so how many times have you seen pictures of rockets going off next to civilian areas? how many times have you seen pictures of weapons being stored in schools or in mosques? how many times have you seen
pictures of hamas using civilians as human shields? their ability through force, through violence. i mean, if you walk down the street in gaza with an nbc camera and you ask people, well, was hamas shooting from this building that the israelis targeted? no, everyone will say, of course, not. because you have a regime what is highlight authoritarian and violent to its own people and they have the ability to control the message. it's like walking down the street in cuba with a camera and say do you like fidel castro? what can people say? >> i think a lot of americans have a question on their minds. is this a battle or a war? is this operation something that can have an end and that something rervesembling a periof normalcy follow it or is this
one of the battles in exowe send shal war can five? >> they say the jewish right has no right to exist. they say the only solution to what they call the question of palestinian jihad and every person man woman and child is a legitimate target in their war of terror but you're right, i think, in placing this in a regional context because hamas is not unlike isis. i don't know if we still call it that but isis in iraq or this is one of our criticisms of so-called palestinian moderates. we have seen too many people who say they are moderates who are open to criticize israeli. i'd ask you do moderate iraqis stand up and support isis and
moderate lebanese support nigeria and support boko har a.m.? they aren't willing to step up flight and say these people don't represent us. and i think it would be much more health care dialogue for peace if we could see more of that from the palestinian side. >> sam stein? >> yes, hi. i grant israeli has taken a tremendous amount of responsibility here and they have suffered greatly and gone to great lengths to protect themselves. i'm wondering why you won't go one step further and engage in talks with hamas to try to bring an end to this hostility? >> it's what you're saying sounds logical. why not just talk to them? the trouble is hamas doesn't want to talk to you. >> have you tried? >> hamas is stuck in a very brutal and extreme agenda. hamas, ultimately, says that israeli should be obliterated and they haven't changed that position so we should talk to them about how we should, i
don't know, commit suicide as a people? i mean, hamas, i'd remind you and remind americans, hamas condemned president obama for taking out osama bin laden on the same day the leader of hamas and gaza praised obama -- sorry, praised osama bin laden as a holy warrior for islam. these are the people we are dealing with. can you talk and make peace with these people? any changed and became something else the door is open but hamas is stuck in a radical jihadist position and as long as they are praising osama bin laden it's difficult to talk about any dialogue. >> it seems that israeli believes its military will persuade hamas to moderate and i'm wondering why you don't feel about the same way to be diplomats. why you can't moderate them by reasoning with them. i understand they want to wipe israeli off the map, a stated goal of the organization, but certainly it wouldn't hurt to
try to talk to them off the ledge. i don't understand what the problem is in at least devoting those type of resources, as much as military resources to this conflict. >> i think you're correct when you say that there doesn't have to be a total dichotomy between the military operation and the diplomacy. look. there is an egyptian proposal on the table for an immediate cease-fire and for talks. we will bring up the issue of demilitarization. hamas has rejected that egyptian proposal and put so many preconditions on talks to make -- to make it impossible. but we're applying military pressure and it's possible that hamas will come around as a result of the military pressure, hamas will come around to accepting something tomorrow it didn't accept today. so there is this siynthesis between the military and the diplomatic. ultimately we understand the solution will be more than militarily. >> one quick question.
>> sam, i'm sorry. >> hamas is -- >> i'm sorry. i don't mean to interrupt. sam stein, the window is about to close. mark, why don't you wrap up. go ahead. >> i should wrap up, okay. >> i'm sorry. go ahead. >> if we come out of this, if we come out of this and hamas military is weakened and a as has been reported and its political position is undermined in the arab world and amongst palestinians for its reckless behavior and shameful abuse of palestinian civilians, so if hamas comes out of this weakened, maybe they will be hope for the middle east peace process because if hamas is weakened, then maybe those palestinians who do believe in peace will find the room to move, they will have the oxygen to step up to the plate and maybe reengage with israeli in a serious peace process which is ultimately what we want. >> mark regev, thank you for being with us and we appreciate you coming on and sharing your views and that of the prime
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are talking up some nutso scheme to jam through the immigration bill even though know is will never happen. doing something is better than doing nothing. the president is clearly not going to act so that means the congress has to act. so i believe it's important for us to act and i'm hopeful that we will. >> hey, so what happened? they must have acted, right? that was speaker john boehner yesterday hours before the house leadership was forced to pull their border security bill at the last minute, as support evaporated. house members convened in emergency meeting. still not clear whether a bill or similar version can pass. there are external factors at play as well. when asked when it died, peter king bluntly said, because of ted cruz. >> those are better pictures. >> they represent the moment
better. >> the texas senator who reportedly huddled with some house members praised them for not passing the bill but denied being responsible. >> david gregory and chuck todd are still bus. chuck, my gosh. from bad to worse on capitol hill. what is happening? >> hey, jeff sessions doesn't like this ted cruz talk. jeff sessions actually was also a republican senator from alabama. he was also lobbying heavily. i talked to people who said the finger should be pointed at him as much you would point to ted cruz. >> one representative criticized jeff sessions and saying he should grow up. >> what a 48 hours. let's fast forward to november. if democrats hold serve, meaning they hold the senate, basically break even in the house, we are going to look back at the month of july and say this is where
republicans blew it. between -- because think about the last 48 hours. house republicans did find the votes to sue the president but did not find the votes to be able to come together and figure out even the tiniest border bill that was essentially, let's remember what this is about. this is about giving the federal government money and tools to deport people faster. this is not an immigration reform bill. so they can't even come up with the votes on an amount of money to speed up a deportation process? this is not about coming up with a legalization process for people that are here to be totally cynical and blunt here. they couldn't even do that? and now they want to be able to govern with both houses of congress. somehow in the month of july, republicans have given democrats something to run on. on july 1st, they didn't have something to run on. on august 1st, they now have
something to run on in the mid terms. i had somebody say to me democrats have been trying to hand the senate to the republicans on the silver platter and republicans keep knocking the platter over. >> gene? >> well, just a question for david gregory. i mean, i think chuck is right, that clearly this does not make republicans look good. i think, frankly, the whole situation doesn't make anybody look good. and i wonder how you think this will fully play out, if it does, indeed, play out into the election this fall? >> let me add one more to chuck's list. so after the health care attempts to defund obamacare went south for republicans, john boehner let it be known that there were a lot of republicans in the house who did not appreciate the kind of lobbying that ted cruz had been doing. senator cruz had learned some important lessons from that in his influence had been diminished. i guess not.
because he moved on from health care to now immigration and what this is really about is giving the president anything, giving him any tools to deal with the problem even a problem that he wants to fix in a manner that most republicans want to see fixed. as chuck said by deporting a lot of these families, including children back to central american countries from which they have come. you have the hobby lobby decision and more politics around women and women's health. you have the specter of suing the president and impeaching the president. what did the president complain about several months ago about about the midterm is in the left would not be animated enough to come out' vote. now you've got a lot of new kindling here for them to get upset about that is really not about substance. it's noe not really about meeting the challenges the country faces. it's just about how politics is done in washington and that kind of anger that swirls around it. >> it's unbelievable. it continues. chuck todd, we will be watching the daily rundown at 9:00 a.m.
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♪ for as long as anybody can remember, nashville, tennessee has been defined by two things. music and jon meacham but we are going to focus on the music this morning foreign policy from elvis presley to dolly parton and tailor swift the biggest names in the world have gone to narve to record their hits but a new development is threatening some of the legendary music landmarks there. singer song writer ben foals is helping lead the right. from the tonguey tongs of broadway to the auditorium and grand ole opry the sound of music is everywhere in nar nashville. but the development that changed the face of music city threatens a neighborhood that attracts
musicians and tourists alike. >> aside from the history of it, there aren't many studios that sound this good in the world. ♪ >> reporter: more than a decade ago, song writer ben foles took over the lee at rca studio-a built in the 1960s for chet atkins assuring that the studio would remain with music. >> this is back of the warehouse and we recorded our first hit song on this without even tuning it. the brick the one that goes like this. ♪ that is that piano and it just sounds like that. >> reporter: the names of the music giants that have recorded here asbest big as the room its. >> i'm not a big ghost person but you can really feel when a space has been loved as much as this one has. and, you know, i love to put on
recording of dolly parton. >> reporter: he has brought in artists like tony bennett and brad paisley as well. but now a developer has purchased the building. he says he is exploring all options but admits he bought the complex for development in a highly desirable residential neighborhood. he is claiming the old building has asbestos and old wiring and mildew in the duct work. >> music row did not make music history because it was in buildings with massive columns. it made history because it was a musical environment to people to trade ideas and trade songs. it's not music row any more. it's like every place is shadowed by condominiums which they could build niver. >> reporter: he is trying to save the place and wrote a letter about studio-a and started a conversation in town how to preserve the city's history, while allowing room for
progress. as new mixes with old in nashville, fold worries studio-a. a place full of stories and songs may fall quiet for good. >> people want to see the identity of nashville intact while growth happens. condos are welcomed in music city, you need places to live but i'm not sure music survives in condo city as well. i think that is really what you're looking at. >> a little update. the studio just found its rent is going up by more than 100% which fold and others say will make it all but impossible for them to stay in that historic space. we put an exclusive behind the scenes look on our website joe.msnbc.com. it's a cool place and so many in nashville, jon, where the history is everywhere. >> there are a lot but there is a limited number. and so -- >> it should be preserved. >> the tension between preservation and growth, as your piece said, is always there. but not surprisingly, i'm siding
for history. i know that is stunning. >> yes. >> but, you know, the reason nashville is so cool right now is because of that cultural legacy and your connections. >> of course. >> right, of course. you went to vanderbilt. >> it seems to me tourism plays a big role. a lot of people go there because of music and music row. why would you tear down a piece of history where elvis and willie nelson were. >> sacred ground for a lot of people. the johnny cash museum you could visit and a lot of that history there but it looks like this one may be going the way of history. we will have more "morning joe" in a moment. ♪
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>> i'm not going to sit here. >> you stop for a second. i know i'm not who you want me to be. i'm your father and i'm not going anywhere. i think we deserve how we can have some relationship that is real. >> is that what you wanted, dad, when you didn't bother calling on our birthdays? >> you have every right to be angry. >> i do. i spent years of my life trying to fill your shoes so don't sit me and tell me you want a real relationship. >> i just trying to say that i'm here now and i'm making an effort now. >> that was a scene from the new movie "may in the summer." here with us now is the writer and director and producer and co-star of the film, shareen davis. she knows her value. she cast herself. i like it a lot! >> you have to do it. i write it, i can cast it.
>> pretty heavy scene right there. you actually confront pain in your own life, something you had to endure as a teenager. tell us about it. and why you decided to confront your parents' divorce in this film. >> well, i mean, who can't relate to divorce in this day and age? it's, you know, happening so often and i was -- i wanted to make a film that was sort of the reverse of my first feature film that was about, you know, immigrants returning home after, you know, decades in their host country and sort of finding themselves at various levels of discord. in this particular film may is palestinian and american and her father is american, played by bill pullman, and her parents divorced because of all kinds of difficulties, but she is actually planning her summer wedding and finds herself confronted with her past. the question is, you know, how do we plan a future that makes space for the past, but also,
you know, what happens when the past sort of sneaks into our present moment? and that was something that i really wanted to explore. >> you go back to amman in this movie and what did you in your life as well in the summer. >> that's right. yes, i am palestinian american. i was born in the united states. we used to return to jordan almost every summer, so it was sort of amazing to get the country grow and change as much as it has over the last three decade. >> we look at this film and see old world with modern values mixed in and certainly a large threat through the film is faith and how different characters have separated or come together because of faith. how important was that for you to explore with this film and from a personal level as well? >> yeah, that was quite important, just given how important faith is in the region and how many different faiths sort of come together and clash. and in this family, everyone sort of represents a different opinion and a different outlook on the issues of faith and politics to some extent as well.
so, you know, the family represents sort of a microcosm what is happening in the middle east. >> have you had that experience? the experience of the past sort of invaded your life -- >> absolutely. >> -- in that sort of way? how? >> well, i mean, you know, i think i've also, you know, similar to may, i'm searching and questioning certain things in my life. i am a child of divorced parents and i am one of four sisters. in the movie, there are three sisters but i have four, so we are five girls. and so, yeah, i think that that is quite common to have the past sort of creep into your present moment and to wonder, you know, how do i sort of move forward and build a future that is on my own terms? >> i'm reading this line from here from one sheet we were given and it says in your younger years when you lived in a small town in ohio, you were considered arab and when you were in jordan, you were considered american. >> that's right. >> i live in the south.
like my first 40 yoears, i live in the south and two years i lived in the north and i was a yankee in the south and a red-neck in the north. but that little more extreme for you obviously growing up. a lit you obviously growing up. but yeah, just you had one foot in both worlds, right? >> absolutely. i was sort of this virtual bridge, always trying to bring these warring sides of my own identity closer together but i think that's what naturally led me to become a filmmaker and an observer of the cultures. >> well, "may in the summer" will play in new york city on august 22nd and in select theaters across the country on august 29th. congratulations. thank you very much for being on. >> thank you for having me. up next, why this november's midterm election may be a throwback to the year 2000. oh, no, let's hope not. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ups is a global company, but most of our employees
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>> reporter: over the past four presidential election cycles, the state of florida has lived up to its reputation as a true swing state. after two consecutive elections in the democratic column, new polling suggests florida may not be ready to swing back to the gop just yet. a new quinnipiac poll shows voters prefer hillary clinton over jeb bush. the 2014 florida governor's race provides further evidence the sunshine state is leaning blue. charlie crist is seeking his old job, this time as a democrat. the recent poll shows florida voters preferred crist over gop incumbent rick scott. if these trends continue and florida has turned blue, then the road to the white house becomes increasingly white house. guys, back to you. >> all right, derrick, thank you. so does it become more difficult, gene? >> the republicans essentially have to win florida. however, it ain't over. it ain't over between scott and crist and it ain't over in
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>> you can imagine that there's going to be a lot of trading accusations about how this broke down. >> there was an attack on our forces in direct violation of the cease-fire. it appears now an israeli soldier was kidnapped in the framework of that attack, so unfortunately hamas has closed the door to this possibility at the moment. >> the house will be in order! >> total chaos on capitol hill today. >> the support for the entire border package fell apart in the house of representatives. >> mr. speaker, what's the plan, please? >> working with our members. >> use your metaphor, i'm willing to stay until we get the job done. >> everybody wants to get out of town. we're going to close up shop and go home and the humanitarian crisis goes on. what kind of an institution is this? >> wow! >> well, that's a good question at this point. >> that was a good question. >> what kind of institution is it? >> seriously, what is going on. >> the cows come home, chickens
come home to roost, pick your barnyard animal. what's going -- i think it's going to happen. >> no, it's not. welcome back to "morning joe." jon meacham and eugene robinson join joe, willie and me at the table. joining us from philadelphia, we have former chairman of the democratic national committee, governor of pennsylvania, nbc news political analyst, ed rendell. are you angry too with congress? what's he muttering there? >> he doesn't look angry. ed rendell is never angry, only determined. >> okay. we'll get to what's not happening in washington and the fallout from that in just a moment. >> what a mess. >> but first we begin with breaking news from the middle east. there are reports this morning that the cease-fire between israel and hamas has unraveled just hours after taking effect. both sides are accusing the other of violating the truce. a palestinian official says israeli shelling this morning has killed at least 35 people and wounded hundreds of others in southern gaza. the israeli military meanwhile says militants have fired eight rockets and mortars at israel
since the cease-fire began. an israeli source says at least two israeli soldiers were killed and the army says it appears an idf soldier may have been abducted. we have live coverage from gaza and israel. we'll go to nbc's foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin live in gaza first. ayman? >> reporter: good morning, mika. let me bring you guys up to speed on what is happening here on the ground. according to the israeli military, operations are ongoing now searching for this israeli soldier that was captured by hamas, according to the israeli military. the operations are taking place in south gaza near the city of rafa but that is as much information as they are going on. meanwhile according to palestinian health officials, the number of fatalities rising tar as a result of this morning's attacks has now climbed to above 40. hundreds more have been injured
since this morning's fighting broke out between the two sides. there's been a lot of confusion as to when this happened, who broke the cease-fire and obviously, as you can imagine, both sides are accusing each other. hamas is saying that this violation of the cease-fire was by israeli soldiers who started shelling into the neighborhood of rafa but more importantly they are saying that the cease-fire at the time, according to sources here, did not, did not stipulate that ongoing operations in the areas under israeli control will be off limits. so there is this information war unfolding about who is responsible and what has happened. we do know right now rafa is being shelled heavily. the death toll is rising fast and palestinian health officials are warning that this could be, in their words, another unfolding massacre, mika. >> you know, an indication of how quickly things change here, this is the late edition of "the new york times." above the fold piece talks about the cease-fire. it says diplomatic bolt from the blue that will suspend the bloody 24-day military campaign
and set the stage for arduous negotiations between israel and hamas over a more lasting truce. as that was being printed off the presses here in new york, the truce was ending. so, ayman, given this, this was brokered by the united states and by the u.n., a 72-hour cease-fire completely fell apart, what's the hope for any cease-fire? how could either side trust the other? >> reporter: well, right now i think there's no trust between these two sides. the question is can they have confidence in the mediators. and the mediators right now were the united states and the united nations. they came out and put this cease-fire in place based on assurances they were given from third parties. we know the egyptians have called off the meetings that were scheduled to start today in cairo. they have actually told hamas they are not allowed to come into egypt to participate in these talks. so that's definitely one indication that the talks have failed. the other important issue is that the united nations and the idf, israeli military, has notified the united nations as a
result of this they will continue and resume full operations inside the gaza strip. so you're really not only back at square one, some are saying you've taken several steps back to even before that. it's a real setback today. >> ayman, this is gene robinson. you know, if one side can't reach the negotiating site, obviously there's not going to be a negotiation. so does this actually speak well of what john kerry was trying to do a week or so ago? he was going a different route, trying to get a negotiation going. he was using turkey and qatar. turkey, of course, being a nato ally. and everyone jumped all over him and said what a naive, terrible thing it was. are there still any possibilities if this doesn't work to go that route? >> reporter: well, there are strong suggestions to support the claim that since the united
states does not talk to hamas and since hamas has very strained relationships with egypt at this point, you need to have somebody speak on behalf of hamas in the international community, and certainly turkey being a nato member, has diplomatic relationships with israel. although it is led by an islamic party, it still has very close relationships with the united states and hamas and can serve as that. it comes down to the issue of trust and who can the sides trust. there is an underlying question to this which is if you try to build a cease-fire that just puts in place a cessation of hostilities. that does not address israeli security, palestinian need for freedom and accessibility to gaza, you're going to be back here if not six months from now less than a few hours from now. what the fragility of the cease-fire shows, unless you're going to address the core issues from the start, you'll find yourself in this pattern of violence either six months from now or a few hours after it came
into effect. >> ayman, thank you very much. we want to turn now to nbc news correspondent martin fletcher who joins us from tel aviv. martin? >> reporter: hi, mika, everybody. well, i can't emphasize enough what happened today. this is the beginning of a national trauma in israel. i think we're burying the lead a little bit because the kidnapping, it is true, and the israeli army suggests that one soldier has been abducted, probably an officer, by the way, the way it happened will set off here a wave of anger and cause for revenge. remember sergeant shalid caught in 2009, he was held for five years and israel was struggling to get him back. it was a trauma for the nation. what happened this morning, and i'm piecing this together from various reports from different sources, some confirmed, some not, but it appears that what was happening, israeli soldiers were operating near rafa in the southern part of the gaza strip. they were continuing their
process of finding and destroying tunnels when from another tunnel apparently, hamas militants came out. there was a suicide bomber, he blew himself up. they killed two israeli soldiers and apparently were able to take off with another israeli soldier. now, we don't know, it's not confirmed yet, whether that israeli soldier is dead or alive. hamas has said they're going to make an announcement soon. they described this as what they called a unique operation. so i can't emphasize enough what this means to israel. it's a nightmare for israel and it's also a major success for hamas, who have said from the beginning that one of their key war aims, one of their definitions of success would be to kidnap a live israeli soldier. that may have happened and so israel now is just -- that's probably the main reason why there's been such a ferocious israeli assault on that area, trying to cut off the area of escape so that the hamas militants who have taken the israeli soldier, whether he's dead or alive we don't know, they're trying to cut off that
area so they can stop him being taken out of that area so they know where he is more or less, mika. >> nbc's martin fletcher, thank you for that. joining us now from the white house, deputy national security adviser tony blinken. tony, why don't we start right there. as martin just put it, the beginning of a national trauma for israel with potential capture of a soldier. what do you know about that? >> mika, look, this appears to be an absolutely outrageous action by hamas, using the cover of a cease-fire to conduct a surprise attack through a tunnel, kill israeli soldiers and perhaps taking one hostage. we strongly, strongly condemn it. israel has the right to defend itself and it's obviously taking action to do so. but this is an outrageous action and we look to the rest of the world to join us in condemning it. those with influence on hamas to use that influence to cease these actions. >> so, tony, let's talk about moving forward and trying to negotiate a cease-fire that will
actually stick. i think that's going to be much harder now if hamas did use outrageously use a cease-fire to actually launch a surprise attack, which would certainly be consistent. but where do we go? right now it seems to be either a negotiation that egypt runs or a negotiation that turkey and qatar run, and obviously the white house and john kerry have been criticized for dealing with those two countries. what's the next step? it seems like we can't even figure out what countries to negotiate a cease-fire with. >> right now i think as we speak, secretary kerry is on the phone with prime minister netanyahu and we'll see what results from that conversation. but the bottom line is this. these cease-fires are not built on trust, they're built on actions. the parties that sign up to them need to act accordingly. we've had them in the past, they have worked, even when there's been no trust. but right now, the main thing is the soldier, if he was taken
prisoner, needs to be released and the parties need to abide by their commitments. the reason for going through turkey, going through qatar, is they have a relationship with hamas. they need to use their influence with hamas. the egyptians had an initiative, the israelis signed up to it repeatedly and that was a good basis for trying to move forward. but secretary kerry said last night in announcing this humanitarian pause that it was incredibly fragile and unfortunately we've seen the demonstration that that's true. >> tony, it's willie geist. we've seen rare criticism from the state department, the white house and now the department of defense of israel and the idf saying the civilian casualties are far too high, coming out publicly and saying that of such a close ally. could you elaborate a little more on the specific criticism of the military tactics of israel. >> no country can abide having rockets rain down on its people or tunnels underground to kill them or take them prisoner. israel has a right to defend
themself. we said that consistently and repeatedly. hamas intentionally targets civilia civilians. the israelis do everything they can to avoid targeting civilians. israel holds itself to a very high standard, but what we've seen is that it's incredibly difficult to meet its very own high standard. this is an area that is densely, densely populated. and the more the actions continue, the more civilians are at risk. of course hamas uses them as in effect human shields, surrounding its sites and legitimate military targets with civilians. that's why we've seen this terrible toll on civilians and on children. and so what we've been saying is we know israel has the highest standards, but the reality is, the fact is it's having difficulty meeting its own standards. >> have you received any assurances that that will change, that the approach will change so that fewer civilians are killed? >> the israelis continue to assure us that they are taking every precaution, but the difficulty, the challenge is that just because of the
difficulty of the circumstance, again with hamas using civilians to surround its strategic sites and weapons, putting weapons in u.n. facilities and schools and hospitals makes it incredibly difficult. we've faced this challenge ourselves, whether it was in iraq or afghanistan, pakistan, it is incredibly hard. but there are times when you don't take the shot. this is what's so challenging. >> deputy national security adviser tony blinken, thank you. we'll get back to this breaking news as it developments. we want to get to politics at home. house leadership was forced to pull its board skiert bill at the last minute as support evaporated. house members then convened an emergency meeting but it's still not clear whether their bill or another bill can pass. when asked why the bill died, congressman peter king said this. because of ted cruz. the texas senator huddled with some house members praised them for not passing the bill but denied being responsible.
joining us now, we're going to be going to republican congressman tom cole of oklahoma. tom, it's good to have you on the show. >> tom, what's going on there, tom? i mean you've got chaos in the house, you've got harry reid in the senate obviously saying if he even gets the bill over from the house he's going to effectively kill it in the senate. what's going on? >> well, first of all, harry reid and democrats in the senate couldn't pass a bill yesterday and they quit and went home. we couldn't quit a bill yesterday and we're at work and we're here. we're going to pass this bill. the speaker made it very apparent. we had a good conference yesterday. i think we narrowed the differences between ourselves, we're pretty close, and we had a great deputy whip meeting where we talked through, as you know, joe, how these work, how to persuade some of our colleagues to see it the majority's way. the rules committee met last night, passed a same day rule.
we're ready to act not only today but any day between now and september 5th. so i think we just have to keep working at it. i think the speaker had it about right yesterday and we'll get there. >> congressman cole, this is gene robinson. there was a contradiction yesterday that i'm still struggling to understand. the leadership statement when the bill didn't pass essentially said, well, but there are plenty of administrative things that president obama can do and should be doing at the border. and that was a day after the house voted to sue president obama for taking administrative action. so how does that square? >> well, i'm not going to disagree with you because it's a point i made myself in conference. look, you can't say on the one hand that the president is overreaching by acting without legislative authority and direction and then refuse to give him legislative authority and direction in another area. so i don't disagree with what you have to say at all. that's exactly what needs to
occur. we've got a good bill that actually addresses the problem, a problem the president has identified but refused to produce a solution to, provides an adequate amount of money to get us to the end of the year. we'll give him additional resources next year. but the first thing is to actually pass legislation across the house floor. so i'll tell you that's what we're going to do today. i'm not going to point a lot of fingers at the president until we get our own job done. >> congressman cole, it's willie gei geist. you've heard some saying the reason this bill was pulled yesterday is simple, ted cruz got a bunch of republicans in this room and said we can't go this way. does that sound right to you? >> well, i'm going to be very careful about what i say. look, at the end of the day you can -- you can point fingers at senators or other people. your voting card is your own and you have to have enough nerve to cast some tough votes around here. this is really about us as a conference and individual members, whether they want to be
part of a team or they think their individual judgment is always superior to the collective judgment of our leadership and conference. you've got to work through that and at the end of the day you're responsible for your own vote. so pointing to ted cruz or jeff sessions is not particularly productive. you've got to look in the mirror and say are you going to get the job done or not? >> tom, thank you so much. how are the sooners going to be? >> we're rated number three but we think we're number one, so -- >> boomer sooner, baby! >> absolutely. >> all right, thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate it. don't you guys wish every politician in washington would talk like politicians from oklahoma? >> i think what you're referring to, if you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, i think that's the quote. >> kipling. >> that's what we were just saying. all right. let's go -- ed rendell, man, the dysfunction in washington, d.c.,
on all sides, absolutely crazy. what in the world does the president do with two years left? he can't just sort of float above it all and go around and give speeches and laugh and joke and whatever. i mean what does he do? what does he do? what does he do? >> i think he does what he's been doing. >> really? >> he looks at what the limits are of his executive authority and then tries to do things to address problems and challenges that are within those limits. now, will that be tested in the courts? apparently so. and that will be an interesting test as it develops. but he can't sit back and do nothing. i don't think you can -- he can negotiate with this congress, certainly not in the house. john boehner can't negotiate with his own caucus, how do you expect a democratic president to do that. >> so ed what happens? you've been in politics enough to know that sometimes things don't go the way you would
expect them to and pollsters and pundits often have it wrong. what happens if republicans take control of the senate? are the last two years a wash for the president or does he realize he's got to deal with them? >> but the question is, joe, and you know i have been a critic of the president. but the question is, what does he do to deal with them and who does he deal with? that's the problem. if you look at it from the president's perspective, you make a deal with john boehner, what good is that? i mean it doesn't look like that gets him anywhere. >> but there's dysfunction on both sides. and i'm not pointing fingers, but you've got harry reid yesterday who knew that he was going to possibly kill the bill in the house by saying even if they pass that in the house, i'm going to lump the entire immigration reform package from last year that we couldn't pass over in the senate. so i'll effectively kill it in the senate and the house. that is dysfunction on both sides of the capitol. >> there's no question that there's dysfunction on both sides. but i'll show you the problem
for the republicans. let's take pat meehan, a suburban congressman from philadelphia, a good guy and has done a good job. pat says elect me, i'm not like these guys in the republican caucus. that's what he says to independent voters and democratic women and others. well, our response now is, look, if we had a democratic congress in the house, the senate immigration bill, which the vast majority of americans favored, the chamber favored, organized labor favored, virtually everyone favored that bill, it had some problems, that would have passed and we would have had immigration reform for over a year now. so as much as you like pat meehan, he can't stay and that is for independents going to be a persuasive argument, i believe. it's an argument that will play out not just in suburban philadelphia but in a lot of -- people say there are no republican moderates left. joe, you know that's not true. they may be down to 30 or 40, but those 30 or 40 hold the balance of power.
so this was not a good day yesterday, was not a good day politically. i agree there's dysfunction on both sides, but the republicans will bear the brunt of the blame, the ted cruz story, all of that is going to be difficult. plus in states like georgia where there's a growing hispanic vote, you have just energized the base in ways that there's nothing that we could do. >> ed rendell, thank you very much. and still ahead on "morning joe" -- >> i think ed is sticking with us. >> he is? is he staying with us or not? >> we'll have the latest data on the economy as the important july jobs report releases in just about ten minutes. plus this. >> did you borrow any of his dance moves? >> no, i used to borrow them. i kind of dropped them and got some other ones, but i used to do -- in the early '60s i used to do some of his moves. >> that was part of willie's conversation with mick jagger who's behind the new james brown film, a producer on the film. the man who brings the godfather
of soul to life, chadwick boseman, will tell us what it's like working with the legendary rolling stone. up next, clinton ink. a new book tells us who may surprisingly have a big role in hillary clinton's campaign for the president should she run again. but first, bill karins with a check -- >> do you know what he's doing? he's going to cape cod on vacation, mr. big shot, willie. >> must be nice. >> must be nice. >> i'm trying to figure out whose mansion should i stay at, willie, mika or joe's? >> what's he talking about? >> stick with joe's. >> i'm just a working man. and by the way, a weatherman going to cape cod as a massive storm -- >> stop jinxing him. >> it's like the perfect storm. >> i figure if i'm going to be there, if the storm hits, at least i can cover it. i'll just take my 2 and 4-year-old, we'll stand out in the rain. >> yeah. >> find a tree. >> that will go well.
>> yeah, the good news with that storm is it's not going to affect the east coast. we will watch it until it's gone but this is why. it's been unusually cool this summer. indianapolis by the way just finished their coldest july in 140 years. that's how far your weather records go back. so this persistent its dip in the jetstream that is bringing us all the cool air is going to take bertha and kick it out to sea, so that's the good news. unfortunately for the weekend forecast, all that cool air hitting the humid air, a lot of rain on the eastern seaboard. this is going to be one of our first rainy weekends up and down the east coast that we've had since early june. we've had a great stretch, but this -- the rain this weekend will not be from bertha. already this morning soaking rains over its appalachians, a lot of thunderstorms off the coast of south carolina. all of that mess is heading north. as far as the timing on the rain, you will see rain and storms today, new york city and d.c. as we go through saturday, i almost think it's like a washout type scenario for areas from the mid-atlantic right through southern new england, especially coastal areas saturday.
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hillary clinton? i can't stand that woman. >> i know. maybe we could all take a page from her book. >> what, to be humiliated in public and then walk around smiling all the time? that is so false. i would dig a hole, climb into it and not come out. >> all i know is she stuck by
him and put up with the [ bleep ] and in the end, what did she do? she set up her own little thing. >> she did. she took all that negative [ bleep ] he gave her and spun it into gold. you've got to give her credit. >> that's true, isn't it. she's a role model for all of us. >> wow. our next guest may have watched that scene from "the sopranos" when he wrote this in his new book. over the years, many metaphors have been used to describe the clintons. among the most common is their similarities to the mafia. on line editor for the weekly standard, daniel halper. daniel joins us now. also at the table the editor in chief and a man who covered the clintons extensively, joe conason. >> mika, i'm very, very distraught. i was going to have daniel and joe scrap and tear apart each
other but they stayed in the green room too long and like each other now. >> what happened? >> daniel explained to me why the mafia metaphor is actually positive. i'm sure he can tell you the same thing. >> i've always thought of that as a positive. >> so, daniel, why is it positive? >> there's this notion that you're once in and never out. you're always a part of clinton world even when you leave. but at the same time the only people that are really there are the family. it's the centrality of the family, bill, hillary and now chelsea that makes the metaphor apt. >> i've actually used the metaphor for congress. i said it's like the godfather, you never -- and this is the same thing with the clintons. but i said this all the time, you never get credit for being loyal 95% of the time. >> yes. >> and it's sort of that way with the clintons too with reporters and everything else, right? they respect loyalty. >> it's a kind of a bunker thing. is that different from the kennedys or the bushes. >> no.
>> or other political dynasties? >> i was telling daniel i was interviewing somebody for my book. somebody who was the chief of staff for president clinton and the foundation and at some point i said to her what was it like when you said good-bye to him? she looked at him like i was an idiot. she said, joe, don't you know that with them, there is no good-bye? >> that could be a good or bad thing. >> i mean she didn't think they were going to kill her. >> no, no, exactly. >> she was loyal for good reasons. >> what did we learn in this book? >> what do we learn in this book about the rebuilding of this political machine after the huge setback in '08. >> actually it starts before that. it starts scandal-ridden white house, impeachment. >> right. >> when they leave the white house, what do they do, they try to rebuild relationships with republicans. >> and they had a rough exit with marc rich. hillary's first year was just cleaning up bill's mess. >> and bill was personally depressed. it was a low moment for them in life. i try to tell the story of how
they came to where they are, threatening a returning to the white house again in 2016. that's a remarkable political story. to gene's point earlier, the point of the book is, yeah, you can make these certain comparisons about other political families and that's kind of the point of the book, to explain politics and how politics works. but it uses people who are the best at it, bill and hillary clinton. they are the best. their story is applicable in other ways to other stories. >> daniel, what happened in 2008? i remember in 2006 and '07 saying this to mika, there was no way that this young senator from illinois could take on the clinton machine. that they would grind his political bones to dust. don't you understand clinton, don't you understand the mafia, don't you understand blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and kaboom, it was a house of cards that fell down. why won't it be that way in 2016. >> first they get out of the white house and build these relationships with republicans but what they don't realize is they have a massive problem with
democrats. democrats are disappointed that eight years of george w. bush are a result of the clintons and it's because of that disappointment they go with the person they don't know, barack obama, over the person they do know, hillary clinton. it's a big slap in the face. but she never faced republican voters. it was democrats who didn't vote for her. so the problem was they didn't shore up democratic support. joining the state department is a big boon to shoring up democratic support. >> so there's a contention also that clinton ink may be quashing any democrat opponents now. >> yes. >> look at joe biden -- >> how are they doing it? >> if you thought you might want to be president -- >> we have a democratic system. she's very popular. it's not that much to do with clinton inc. it's because of of her record in the senate and secretary of state and the popularity of her husband's administration. you can't say they're not quashing somebody else for money. >> no, i'm asking daniel because
in his book you talk about fund-raisers that are maybe being put to work to do so. >> they have been working for the last 20 years for a hillary clinton presidency. this is something they have had in mind or hillary has had in mind since '92, '93. she was talking about -- aides were talking about it in the white house then. they realized this was an ambition of hers. she needed to shore up democratic support, so joining the state department is a way to do that. joining obama ranks, obama democrats. people like martin o'malley, people like liz warren, what they have done is they have built relationships with all these democrats. the book is really about relationships as well and it's about how the clintons understand how humans work. they understand on a human level that talking to people, saying nice things to people and working, you know, can charm people. nobody is safe from bill clinton's charm. by charming various democrats, they have already been able to get a lot of support. you have ready for hillary and all these other institutions that are up and running and
trying to shove everybody out of this market. >> daniel, a couple of things really quickly. first of all, you say become is a classic narcissist. that's like saying the sky is blue. chelsea clinton, you say 2016 de facto campaign manager. >> chelsea manager decided to join the family business. like any other family business, when a family member comes in, she automatically jumps to the top. so the same here with chelsea clinton. i tell this story of some aides to bill clinton wanted to start a consulting company. that consulting company was going to be global and reach out. it exists today and is doing well. chelsea clinton asked forr equiy and now they are no longer close to the clintons. >> the story of that will be in my book.
>> i do -- just very quickly, though. i do -- for the record, i know people who are close to bill clinton, who are close to hillary clinton, who are close to them out of this really intense personal loyalty because they really believe in these people and really believe in who they are. >> yes. >> one of the things i was going to say is whatever chelsea decides to do with the foundation or the campaign, i'm sure secretary clinton will be there with her and she'll want her there. but the reason that it's hard for somebody to get money together or get a campaign together to challenge her is elizabeth warren has already written a letter to her saying you should run, signed with all the other women democratic senators. it's hard to go back and say actually i'm going to run against you. they look at poll numbers. among democrats at least it's 80% for hillary. >> there's no close second. >> so what do you do about that? >> daniel, thank you for coming
on. joe conason, he didn't say how great he was -- >> you forgot to ask me. >> but he has endorsed the book. let's have you guys back and continue this conversation. >> i'm sure the endorsement will be on the paperback edition. >> and his will be on mine. coming up, full analysis of the july jobs report. stay with us.
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let's get right to the july jobs report with cnbc's sara eisen. sara, what you got? >> well, it turns out that july jobs came in a bit lower than economists were looking for. the economy added 209,000 jobs during the month of july. it's above 200,000 so it's still a positive sign but economists were looking for a number like 230,000 jobs and it's not as good as june, which was 298,000 jobs. that was actually revised higher. the other headline here is that the unemployment rate ticked up to 6.2% from 6.1%. now, it sounds like higher unemployment rate might not be good news but it actually is because it means more people are confident and they're coming in and looking for jobs and entering the labor force and that could explain why the unemployment rate is ticking higher. add it all up, it's not as good as people were looking for --
>> sara, can i interrupt you for a second? we're all shaking our heads here. do you think that somebody in the federal government could come up with a measurement for unemployment that doesn't require great reporters like you to say every month, okay, it looks like good news but it's really bad news or it looks like bad news but it's -- why don't we have the real unemployment rate? wouldn't that make your job easier and also make it easier to follow? >> it would. and it would also make janet yellen, who's the fed chair's job, a lot easier too. the federal reserve used to target the unemployment rate in its policy and say we're not going to change policy until we start to see that unemployment rate come down. guess what, the unemployment rate came down and they had to leave that statement behind and say we're looking at other factors in the labor market like wage growth, which by all accounts is not where we need it to be, like long-term unkploempd which is 3.2 million people in
america, like temporary jobs, which we continue to see that number elevated and people who are actually wanting full-time jobs that are temporary jobs. so it's all of these qualitative things, which is good but that 6.2% probably doesn't tell the full story. what i would look to is we have seen six months of solid job gains, above 200,000 in this country, and we do have an economy growing at 4%. the question is it's been bumpy and it's been uneven, so there's still a lot of pockets of weakness. >> sara eisen, thank you very much. chad boseman brings james brown back to life in "get on up." stay with us. ♪ ♪
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up." the star of "get on up," chadwick boseman. it is so good to have you on the show. >> good morning. >> i'm telling you, i'm hearing from people who know both of the icons that you played and they knew them. they're awe struck by how you've been able to channel now james brown. were you at all concerned about taking on this role? >> yes. you know, i just didn't want to do a bad job at it. you know, you can. like it's a career-ending move to take on james brown and not be able to pull off the dance moves. there's just so many things also, like there have been parodies about him that were genius. love eddie murphy. but it was so good that it was nearly -- i felt like it was impossible to get past that. so, you know, how do you see the
real man because that's why you come to see the biopic. >> so how did you do it? >> you know, i've watched the movie like three times now. and it's very difficult to watch myself, but i think, first of all, i had a great director. tate taylor is amazing. you know, he -- you have to have that person that's watching what you're doing. i had mick jagger as well and he -- the team was amazing. like mick had studied james brown. you know, he didn't necessarily copy his specific moves, but he got his own -- >> he's inspired. >> yeah, he was inspired by james brown and inspired by his ability to captivate a crowd, an audience. >> what was tougher to do, the dancing or the singing? >> the dancing. >> okay. can you still do a split?
or have you lost the flexibility? >> probably can, but i'm not going to do it. >> what's your favorite james brown song? after all this, you probably have heard all of them at this point. >> it changes all the time, i think. the one that i play the most is a song called "loss on monday" that mick jagger introduced me to. >> after your performance playing jackie robinson, this one is just unbelievable, so a great problem to have. are you worried that you'll be picked to play icons only? >> you know what, i'm not looking for another one, that's for sure. a role is a role. if it's a good role and a good story, that's what i'm really looking for. james brown is almost like a superhero anyway. >> a role is a role but the splits are optional. >> exactly. "get on up" is out in theaters today. chadwick boseman, it is great to
meet you. congratulations on this. thank you very much. we'll be right back. she's still the one for you.
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thomas? >> can we talk about the gang? >> courtney, kevin and eric -- >> our interns. >> come on up. >> have you met? >> i'm joe scarborough, so good to meet you. and you are? >> adorable. >> you guys are great. >> you've been fantastic. >> big helps, big helps. >> thank you guys so much. i appreciate it. >> very good work. >> you don't even know them. >> they grow up so fast. >> john, what have you learned? >> i learned that congress will be on a staycation. >> oh, that's a good one. gene? >> you know, i learned that sometimes cease-fire means like commence fire, unfortunately. >> my gosh, unbelievable. mika, what about you? >> you definitely want me outta here so i'm leaving too. >> you're going to be gone for a while? >> yep, i sure am. yes, i am. >> if only you were as dedicated to this job as me. it makes me sad.
all right, kids, if it's way too early it's "morning joe." you'll be mika in a couple weeks. stick around, right now we're going to toss it to chuck todd and "the daily rundown." thanks. drained capital. speaker boehner holds house republicans in town for one more day to try to get a border bill passed that won't ever actually become law, as frustrated rank and file finger point all over the place, including at ted cruz and jeff sessions. and the friday flight schedule in d.c. is suddenly filled up fast. meantime, an incredible admission by the cia after an internal probe confirms rumors that cia officers hacked into senate intelligence committee computers. reaction this morning from oregon democrat ron widen. plus fancy farm. kentucky's one-of-a-kind political punchfest set to take center stage this weekend in perhaps the most watched senate