they have right now, what does that mean for 2020? well, that s the real big test, because there s a divide between the activism of the democratic base and all democrats. if you take a look at some of these public polls, for example, more democrats want somebody who can beat president trump than somebody who agrees with their views, but that s not the view that may be the view of all democrats, but if you look at the activists who participate in these primaries and caucuses, they ve got a decidedly more left-wing view. you saw it in the primaries to some degree in 2018, but more importantly you saw it in 2016 when bernie sanders whod had never run as a democrat for public office, the first democratic convention he ever attended was the 2016 democratic national convention. and, remember, he gave hillary clinton a run for her money. charles: he certainly did. karl rove, always great talking to you. thank you very much. thank you, charles. charles: still ahead, democrats divided.
about this long. and probably a quarter of an inch in width. reporter: hmm. any idea what it was when you found it? it wasn t confirmed until after the completion of the autopsy of what the material actually was, that it was latex, a latex material. reporter: a a kind of material that that a pathologist would be rather familiar with doing his autopsies. it appeared to be a fragment of a disposable glove. of course they tested it to be sure it did not come from the medical examiner or any of the officers at the crime scene. and it did not. must have been left by the otherwise careful killer. but who would want to hurt her? and so horribly? the first person detective ellzey talked to was shelley s roommate, ashley olvera, who d found shelley dead in her own bed. that s how ashley became possible suspect number one. she wasn t sexually
reporter: a a kind of material that that a pathologist would be rather familiar with doing his autopsies. it appeared to be a fragment of a disposable glove. of course they tested it to be sure it did not come from the medical examiner or any of the officers at the crime scene. and it did not. must have been left by the otherwise careful killer. but who would want to hurt her? and so horribly? the first person detective ellzey talked to was shelley s roommate, ashley olvera, who d found shelley dead in her own bed. that s how ashley became possible suspect number one. she wasn t sexually assaulted, shelley. that was my initial opinion. it was later confirmed. reporter: yeah. why couldn t a woman do this? reporter: sure. it s her roommate. there s a lot of things happen between roommates that we don t know about. so it very well could have been. reporter: sure. what happened, if anything, between these roommates was something detective ellzey was
it appeared to be a fragment of a disposable glove. of course they tested it to be sure it did not come from the medical examiner or any of the officers at the crime scene. and it did not. must have been left by the otherwise careful killer. but who would want to hurt her? and so horribly? the first person detective ellzey talked to was shelley s roommate, ashley olvera, who d found shelley dead in her own bed. that s how ashley became possible suspect number one. she wasn t sexually assaulted, shelley. that was my initial opinion. it was later confirmed. reporter: yeah. why couldn t a woman do this? reporter: sure. it s her roommate. there s a lot of things happen between roommates that we don t know about. so it very well could have been. reporter: sure. what happened, if anything, between these roommates was something detective ellzey was determined to find out. even if he had to get rough. coming up
of course they tested it to be sure it did not come from the medical examiner or any of the officers at the crime scene. and it did not. must have been left by the otherwise careful killer. but who would want to hurt her? and so horribly? the first person detective ellzey talked to was shelley s roommate, ashley olvera, who d found shelley dead in her own bed. that s how ashley became possible suspect number one. she wasn t sexually assaulted, shelley. that was my initial opinion. it was later confirmed. reporter: yeah. why couldn t a woman do this? reporter: sure. it s her roommate. there s a lot of things happen between roommates that we don t know about. so it very well could have been. reporter: sure. what happened, if anything, between these roommates was something detective ellzey was determined to find out. even if he had to get rough. coming up