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staying, sir the georgia congressional candidate who just walked off the stage in the middle of a debate all right 6:00 a.m. here in washington alive. >> look at the us capitol on this tuesday morning good morning, everyone and kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us samuel alito's private beliefs apparently exposed in a secretly recorded audio tape, the conservative supreme court justice seeming to endorse a fight to return our country to a place of godliness and quote it was a liberal activist and filmmaker who secretly recorded the justice and his wife at a supreme court historical society dinner earlier this month people in this country, we're leaving that, keep fighting to return our country to a place the bottling names. >> i agree with important to underscore during that dinner, the activists misrepresented herself. she claimed to be a religious conservative the executive director of the supreme court historical society issued this statement on monday saying, quote, we condemn any sort surreptitious recordings of justice's at the event which is inconsistent with the entire spirit of the evening. attendees are advised that discussion of current cases, cases decided by current sitting justices or justices, jurors, pure prudence is strictly prohibited and may result in forfeiture of membership in the society earlier. in the conversation, the activist told alito that she didn't think that the right could negotiate with the left. >> here was his response one. >> side or the, other. >> there can be a way of working, our way of living together it's different because they're differences fundamental things that really can't comment so it's not like you're going to see what the difference a little hard to hear their finals here. >> molly ball, senior political correspondent at the wall street journal, meghan hayes, former special assistant to president biden, and matt gorman, the former senior adviser to the tim scott presidential campaign. welcome to all of you molly ball. >> this of course, i think underscores the pressure that alito is at the moment in our highly charged political environment where the justices are about to decide whether or not donald trump is immune in the january 6 case clearly, he's in a situation where he is responding in the affirmative to someone he is encountering at a party and yet the remarks are still illuminating in terms of how he thinks about things. yeah. i mean, i think as you said on the one hand, we've all done the thing where someone approaches you that you don't know and you just kinda play along. you just sort of say you're agreeing with whatever it is that they're saying. i'm either end it's no surprise to anyone that he's a conservative right, and that he does view, society as, as somewhat corrupted by a lack of godliness or i wouldn't be surprised to hear him say any of those things in a judicial opinion for example. so it's all pretty broadly consistent with the judicial philosophy and the political philosophy that we know that he subscribes to. i think also the fact that the recording is coming out tells you that increasingly the supreme court is being treated as another political branch of government. the people are sending trackers after them basically like they would with a political candidate monitoring their every utterance and looking through it for potentially damaging or politically useful bits of audio that, that can be used against them in what's essentially become a full-time political campaign. and that i think as we and others have reported, has contributed to a very high level of tension and division on the court itself has made it increasingly difficult to function. >> yeah, it's it's speaking of division on the court itself. >> i mean in this highly fraught moment that we find ourselves in as a country where there does seem to be this kind of looming question about violence. certainly we have had more violence in our politics in recent years than we had seen in another monitor campaigns with what happened on january 6, john roberts was also approached by this activist and he approached this very differently and it underscores a little bit of tension on the court as molly was just touching on. again, john roberts, appointed by george w bush. he is the chief justice. he is also a conservative but has carved out a much different kind of role for him self on the court. so when he was approached by this activist and some of these same themes of godliness. the question i believe was is the us a christian nation? >> here's how john roberts responded since i put here a little 20 years, i've been quieter times but the idea that the court is in the middle of a lot of tumultuous stuff going on. that's nothing new. >> the civil war, we did that very vietnam. you people getting killed and i was there. >> this is all right. i mean, it's it's not all right. but it's not like it's dramatic medically different people that's a common thing. people, their own perspective like this is so slow ordinary i don't know. >> heed the christian nation question. robert's actually responded that he has jewish friends, muslim friends who might disagree with that. he went on to talk about it a little bit, but megan haze, there. he was saying he was talking about other cataclysmic periods in our history, the civil war vietnam basically saying that we're going to be all right in the end. what is your view of all of this? and the way it's an unfolded, but particularly this difference between alito roberts here. yeah. i mean, i do think that we're gonna be all right. our democracy is built to survive and hopefully it will survive regardless of who wins the election in november. but i do think that there is a difference here, and i think that there was a difference. if you listen to alito's wife and how she responds and her reaction system of the questions that she got are also extremely stark. and so just just goes to show how these justices are thinking and how that they are forming their opinions. and it is, it is quite different and it is jarring when you hear their responses. >> let's listen to a little bit of what martha alito also who was approached by the same activist again, here's a little bit of what she had to say you know what i want i want sacred heart of jesus flag because i had to look cross the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. >> exactly and he's like, oh, please don't put several my heritage come after me away. it doesn't have to be away. >> debris don't worry about it okay. >> she also said that justice alito doesn't control her at one point. but you don't seem to admit their that he did ask her not to put up a flag in this case. >> definitely go we put the flag up let me look at this whole thing. i saw on twitter the person lauren windsor put up, that this is gonna be a big undercover storage tweeted out, tease that out. before it came out. and then when it came out like this, this is what this is. i mean, this was the same person that was the one reported by the intercept who sent the kind of democratic activists to charlottesville, dresses neo-nazi would tiki torches to kind of stand outside the glenn youngkin's yvette. but with the lincoln project. so i'm not getting i'm not surprised by this, but i will say that i think a lot of what molly said his right. it's also just his religious philosophy makes no bones that he's a devout christian now, i was at church over the weekend and a lot of those same themes. it's country but more about the world gold and sin and godliness. those same themes or what kinda prevalent. church, i'm really not surprised. >> i mean, i think that the piece of it that i really i got caught on was where he seems to go on and say that there may not be a way to resolve these differences ever, which i suppose is part of what you're saying. >> i mean, it's it's again, i think we stepped back from the politics of it. i think the way the christians look at it is sin and whatever faith i'm not putting it very eloquently. the priesthood better job in his homily over the weekend. >> but but no, i think that is more of the way that he was talking about it for me again, he's devout christian. >> i don't really see what the the big thing is, megan, but these people, i just think our supreme court justices sort of need to rise above this. and i agree with molly that like we've all been in a situation where you just like nod and say, but he went further and then when his wife's comments, it just shows that like they're they're not viewing themselves as above and making laws for our country. >> it was his faith like it was not, it was not about politics. they're talking to say, it also she was goading him. she would want to introduce scholarliness into it. she was the one that he's just agreeing. >> yeah, i agree. like it's these ideas weren't germinated on their own. she was leading him. >> i don't agree with what she did. i think it's terrible and i think both sides do it and i think it's awful. i don't think we'd be putting a lot more women pre haven't talked about project verisign's 09 and rightfully so i'm fine, but the amount of media saturation i didn't read the new york times is covering this now it's ridiculous. who would never do this. it was james o'keefe and practice, but that's not true. but i just think we owe nine we haven't done a sense so charade with acorn, that was the last time we actually my diary. i think we all project or testis sorry, because very, very different when there was a negative garrett ziegler who is sitting in court that clearly act when there was a new york times article on straight reporting, what was it ashley biden's journal. i don't remember it. >> like there was with this. >> i will be honest in this particular question, but i do think the big picture here. i mean, i think you guys are actually both an agreement what people should do is not correct this you know, i just i think molly to the big picture point this really underscores even farther just the significance of the moment that we are facing as a country, the role of the supreme court in our politics. >> it's been historically viewed as an institution that's supposed to be above all this i think those of us who cover this realize it's been political for awhile, but now the country is really starting to see that. >> all right, coming up next, donald trump meets with probation officers while his campaign asks potential vp candidates if they ever committed a crime. >> plus the dog days arriving early, millions of americans facing sweltering heat in this this is where i get back in my trunk and head make the southwest georgia. >> the congressional candidate who walked off the stage and went home in the middle of a debate hey, guys, i got spoken about got it right up do, we, have one to leave works all day? >> so i can keep working to take just one 12 hours of uninterrupted pain-related i'll leave you do you take 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the virtual interview and was described as polite, respectful, and accommodating to the probation officers. >> that's according to a new york city official familiar with the interview, trump even told the officers to be safe at the end of the session his approach might have something to do with the fact that his demeanor and cooperation could influence the judge's decision on sentencing de the hearing comes as his campaign moves forward with a more shall we say traditional process of selecting a vice presidential running mate? >> all of them have been asked to submit documents to be vetted you're not at that level yet? >> well, we'll look they argue they've asked us for a number of things. i think that a number of people have been asked to submit this in your taxes or something i don't know everything but yeah, i mean, certainly like, have you committed a crime? >> i've ever lied about this have you ever committed a crime? >> a matt gorman? >> apparently not. okay. for the vp i know what we laugh. >> i know we laugh. it does it does make sense why you'd ask that. i mean, it does it does. >> i did the first of that of paul ryan when it was selecting his vp we're at the point now, where you're bringing in not just the candidate, but the family, the accountants, the lawyers, and you are asking we were just trying to get to the central question. number one, do we know everything about this person that we need to know? number one and number two if we don't, what is it that we don't know and trying to get that. so the candidate, no matter who it is, can evaluate and make a decision because let's face it this way, right? >> we know trump is indicted on four things, felt guilty on 153 others, right? in the limited space, we don't want a new one coming out all of a sudden that they can't price in that they don't have an awareness of. it does seem like an acknowledgment that committing crimes as bad, which the president has so far not seemed to want to cop to i don't think 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hadi continued to use narcotics smoke, crack every 15 minutes throughout 2018 and decided not to buy a gun. >> we wouldn't be here in this courtroom. >> choices have consequences. and that's why we're here later. hunters defense attorney argued the prosecutors case was similar to a magician's trick, adding quote, there is nothing there. joining me now from wilmington, delaware is alex thompson, the national political reporter for it? axios, who has been covering this trial day in and day out. alex, wonderful to see you how just catch us up with what you saw in court yesterday during these closing arguments. and i want to dig into how the family in particular is playing into this because my understanding is the jurors were told not to be intimidated by the fact that it's the families the president of the united states yes. >> so yesterday you saw bolt very lengthy closing arguments, i believe abbe lowell hunter biden's lawyer when for about 87 minutes and then the prosecution got two shots at it and they probably got about the same about 87 minutes. and to your other points the prosecution said, if they have not proven that hunter biden was a crack addict than no one is a crack addict. and it got a little chip between the two sides. abbe lowell at one point said that the prosecution had been quote enormously cruel two naomi biden hunter biden's daughter, the president's granddaughter, and how they cross-examined tr the government came right back and said it was then who put her on the stand that put her in that position. and it was hunter biden who according to text messages tom had been erratic and texting in the middle of the night and had i think they've put it as said, blowing her off and so it got very personal in terms of how the family yesterday was the most family that we have seen in this trial. you had aunts, uncles cousins, the cousins, spouses. it was at least a full thing and it was interesting that both sides, in their closing arguments made you made allusions to the family. now, abbe lowell hunters lawyer has been really trying to portray hunter as a family person and has been referencing the family as as part of that that he is just i think one of you, whereas the prostitution is basically saying what? you just alluded to, which is don't be intimidated. this is not these people are not evidenced. these people are not really part of the trial how would you describe kind of the the mood among the biden family members who attended from what? you could observe it, what did what did that feel like yeah. i think they you can see a little bounce in their step after abbe lowell's closing, having just a fulsome 87 minute defense from of hunter when i think a lot of the family feels he has just been hit day after day after day for the last several years and i think i even saw bowel biden, the president, sister give them a go, give abby go, get them. right? right afterward. but after at the very end i don't think the family likes being at felony trial for joe biden's son, and you could tell there were certainly moments ashley biden in particular, the president's daughter and hunter sister has you been very emotional at moments in this trial having to leave at some point, plate lots of tears. and you can tell it's been harder on some than on the others. >> one of the arguments that came up was about hallie biden one of the attorneys said quote, poor hallie biden knew had to be dragged through this period of her life. again, who understandably did not remember a lot of the details well she remembering what she saw that day or dozens of other days when she too was using if you notice, she could remember what the prosecutors asked her. the prosecutors are also gave her immunity, but not so much for any number of things so that that i guess coming from from abbe lowell well, it clearly they felt like they needed to defend other members of the family. two, how did that fit in this been a key part of hunter biden strategy from the very beginning, which is to really try to undermine the credibility of hallie biden, who's beau's widow, who is also his sister-in-law. >> and the reason is because her testimony he is, very very troubling if you're a hunter, biden, the fact is that she was the one that found the gun. she and when she testified that when she went into the truck, she found crack cocaine, paraphernalia, suggesting that he had been smoking very recently, that she found powder that day, which also suggested he'd been using am was the one that he was texting during the period he had the gun in which he said that he was smoking crack and this goes to a larger sort of dynamic within both the defense and the prosecution, which you at the very end of the day beyond the facts that case, i think it will really come down to you. do you relate to hunter biden or do you resent hunter biden and the prosecutor? the hunters team at basically wants to make you think he's a family man that he was suffering from a disease that he's one of you in delaware home grown. whereas the defense is saying no, this is a bad guy. this is the guy that what the little details that he was trying hundred $51,000 in cash withdrawal and just three months that he was a millionaire, that he was yael educated, that he gave $800 to his 24-year-old girlfriend to buy clothes for his daughters. these little details that are meant to portray a different sort of person and that may end up being the difference maker with this jury all right. alex thompson for us this morning. alex. thank you very much for that. meghan hayes, can i ask you, you know, someone who's been in the biden family orbit? how this all mean as alex said, that they entire family has shown up for him at this trial. understandably, but it's gotta be weighing on the president who of course has not made an appearance at the courtroom. >> yeah. i mean, i don't think anybody hit this table. be surprised. a hunter is at the forefront of the presence minor, it adds, it's an extremely challenging situation. he's a dad first and foremost, i think he said that in his statement, but i do think that this is someone who is an addict. he is a recovering addict right now and i think that the family is concerned and i think that's showing up to be supportive of him. i think that's what families do is show up and support people when in their time of need. >> all right. >> let's turn now to the 2024 campaign trail where donald trump de, virtual mark remarks yesterday to the danbury institute it is a conservative christian group. they call abortion, quote, child sacrifice, and quote the greatest atrocity facing our generation today trump, who just two months ago said abortion should be left to the states, didn't explicitly mentioned abortion during his remarks. that's an admission that for the presumptive nominee of the republican party says a lot about the politics of this issue in a post-dobbs, america. instead, trump said this we are a seriously declining nations, seriously serious and so sad. i know that each of you is protecting those values every day and i hope we'll be defending them side-by-side for your next four years. these are going to be your years so matt gorman, i mean, he obviously is trying to tell them something that they want to hear, but to not mention abortion at a group like this. i mean, it just shows what a tough position any republican is in, in a world where the protections of roe means that, well, if you say life begins at conception, suddenly are threatening. everything including in vitro fertilization. >> note we look at it, i think abortion is probably the best issue for democrats and it makes the most sense for him to run on it. >> and i think it doesn't make sense also for trump to give more grist to anything and that they're going to use against them already in a campaign. and i think what this is, i'm more and more convinced that this an election in the sanctuary to come down either the economy hovering above all, an immigration on the right, abortion and left competing as the single issue crawl over broken glass type issues for voters. and which one wins out last couple years exceed abortion went out, could happen again, immigration has been very salient, loved what happens, and i think that's gonna tell us its substrate election. well, and i think the debate that i'm hearing among my republican sources about how they and their candidates should message the abortion issue is very similar to it. why here democrats talking about immigration? the question is, do you try to keep it off the agenda and not talk about it in the hopes that you can raise the salience of some other issue, right. so if you're a democrat to ignore immigration and just tried to talk about abortion where you feel like you have a better message there is a school of thought, i think in both of these camps that says no, you have to go at it. you have to say to voters, i understand why you think this is important and here is my position so that they're not left guessing. so republicans have been having this active debates since the fall of roe, saying we do have to have a message for voters about abortion. we do have to have something to say to them. otherwise, we're just going to get clobbered and i think you've seen democrats on immigration, the same thing. a lot of candidates have tried to avoid the issue, but there is a new conventional wisdom on the democratic side that says if you do that you're just gonna get killed on this issue. that is important to so many voters. you do need to have some kind of positive message, even if it's not necessarily going to be popular because in both cases, the parties are on the wrong side of these respective issue really interesting way to think about it, okay the house rules committee meets today to consider holding attorney general merrick garland in contempt. we're going to talk about that with a member of the committee recovery can ralph 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there was a substantial amount of vote for the one on here that was covered up probably one of the biggest conspiracies in american history when just say there was no evidence of any of the things that he just said there, giuliani pleaded not guilty in may to nine felony charges stemming from his alleged role in arizona's fake electors scheme the port of baltimore is open for business now as the shipping lane into the harb fully reopened last night for the first time since the francis scott key bridge was hit by a cargo ship and collapsed in march from all those folks all right. let's turn now to capitol hill where the house rules committee will meet today to decide whether to advance contempt charges against attorney general merrick garland over his refusal to provide lawmakers the audio of president biden's interview with special counsel robert hur after her found the biden mishandled classified documents but would likely present to a jury as a quote, sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory and quote, the gop led push comes just a week after garland testified before congress, where he said this i will not be intimidated. and the justice department will not be intimidated and training. >> now, it's south carolina republican congressman ralph norman. he sits on the house rules committee a powerful one in the house. congressman. good morning. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure bladder be ready. >> so the attorney general, merrick garland has a new washington post opinion piece that's out this morning and he writes in that piece quote, disagreements about our politics are good for our democracy. they are normal. >> but using conspiracy theories, falsehoods, violence, and threats of violence to effect political outcomes is not normal. >> the short-term political benefits of those tactics will never make up for the long-term cost to our country continued unfounded attacks against the justice department's employees are dangerous for people safety, they are dangerous for our democracy. >> and they must stop. >> what do you have to say to his argument there attorney general garland is let's just say it's laughable. what he's taking party and he's not above the law. he says he's not going to be intimidated it's very simple. >> why don't think he's arguing that he's above you're saying he's not above the law in the context of the contempt charges around that that you are considering what what he's not above the law in is when congress has every right, an article one the whole committees that investigates the doj in any other agency. >> and what we asked for is the sense that president biden had an interview with robert hur asking for the audio tapes very, very simple. the audio tapes and he won't. they initially started back in february of this february 5th and we asked for the audio tapes which do exist and on february 16, the doj under the guidance of merrick garland said they weren't going to meet the timeline. >> they extended the timeline. >> so and then finally they came back and said there's no justifiable reason why you need the audio tapes that the biden has already waived executive privilege by printing the the interview so they're just want to tape to see if they match up with what's being reported. >> they redacted several parts of it. so but and it's saying he's not above the law. he's going to be in contempt. we will pass it, i think in the rules and will hold him accountable like he's doing every every other person has got an arb aside, their name and you're going to learn from the tapes that you can't learn from the transcripts the tapes were backup, will either justify what has been the the transcript say or they won't. >> do you think actually tampered with a the transcripts? >> is that what you're saying? >> we have no idea until we get them. they haven't. that's what attorney general garland refuses to turn over is very simple. turn turn the tape over, and so we can see if it matches with the transcripts either does or does it? and do you think that you have in the full house to hold the garland in contempt oh, i have no idea. we'll see what the evidence we will have testimony today that are probably last six to eight hours. you have a democratic witness, you have republican witness. james calmer well, it may be jim jordan, but one of the two will present what they're finding is, but it's very simple. turn over the tapes that will either validity the transcripts or they won't and let us see it congressman, i want to talk politics with you for a little while. >> your state, of course, has famously sharp-elbowed to put it politely, i would say politics, nancy mace congresswoman, who voted to oust kevin mccarthy facing a primary challenge today. >> could you underscore clarify for me who it is you're supporting in this primary. >> and do you think that mayes is going to hang on? >> i hadn't come out on either side. i know both. and i serve with nancy, catherine templeton was headed de heck under nikki haley who i like i think nancy will win this race, but i hadn't come out publicly for either one of them. i get involved in a lot of races but on this particular one, i decided just to let the low country decide who they want and net nancy's got a track record and catherine templeton has a record of so why once you endorse your college, you're not endorsing nancy mace. i mean, that's pretty normal worthy as typically y'all incumbents usually stick together well, i didn't come out against are either. >> i just said let the voters decide and the low countries has a lot of different issues that they're passionate about. and i let them decide it and i'm from the upstate and i did get involved. am involved with the timmons morgan rice. i came out against william terman's and but on the nancy may just decide to stay out of that sir, before i let you go we've heard president former president trump. obviously, he has campaigned. we've heard him say earlier in the show that america is a declining nation this is something that he talks about all the time. the governor of pennsylvania, which is a key swing state. he's a democrat but he had a different message about what he thinks republican should be saying about america. i want you to listen to what governorship hero said, and then i want to get your reaction on either side. watch all they hear from donald trump is a whole bunch of whining about this country. so i got a message to donald trump and all his negativity in his whining stops barking. america. this is the greatest country on earth, and it's time that we all start acting like it i'm going to say, sir i'm a patriotic american. do you does he have a point president trump as does the american people see what's happening to america. >> he is exactly right? look at what's happening in this country. talk to the average voter out there who is very upset with inflation. they're very upset with the 13 to 15 million illegals coming into this kind. would you still the greatest country on earth as many politicians often have it once was the greatest country on earth. we in the rapid decline, it's not anymore three-and-a-half years of this biden administration. >> pardon me. >> it's not anymore in which country would you say is greater than the united states of america? >> well, unless we get our financials in order, unless we stopped spin in, printing money, will we cannot continue what we have been in the past, which is a shining city on a hill, and the director result of the liberal policies that this administration has continues to put, put the american people through immigration, is leading the pack on. this is he's breaking the constitution. he's destroying the values in this country. so i think the american people show that at the pose all right, i sold them have the name of another country that's greater than the united states of america. congressman ralph north on norman, excuse me, ralph norman, thank you so much, sir, for being here. i really appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. >> all right, let's turn now to this i'm still feature when i walk in the room why wouldn't we talk about taylor swift? >> and we can talk about taylor swift. she apparently has a new admirer in donald trump. in an interview for a forthcoming book about the former president trump raved about the pop star's looks, telling the writer quote, i think she's beautiful, very beautiful. i find it very beautiful. i think she's liberal. she probably doesn't like trump. i hear she's very talented. i think she's very beautiful actually unusually beautiful trump, however, clearly seemed unable to forget his bad blood with swift over her 2020 endorsement of joe biden and throwing into question her political beliefs that she is liberal or is that just an act he asked during the interview, she's legitimately he liberal, it's not an act. it surprises me that a country star can be successful being liberal meghan. >> i mean, i think it's creepy the way he continues to talk about how pretty women are that are significantly younger in age, very much younger. but that being said, i think that he he doesn't want to upset the swifties. i think we all know what happens when that when we awake a giant of the swifties. but i think it's very big. >> part of why we're talking about her. madame mean, disagree with me if you want to but she is actually probably the one celebrity. i think that actually has the power to move inefficient number of probably right? >> yeah, i think it's a matter of now whether she would ever want to get involved, i think in 2020, 2016, were i think we talked to this couple weeks ago, different time for celebrities inject themselves some politics become political actors very different now, outtake donald trump taylor swift, like it's like the page clicks like big bang, massive forces together for this this explosion. >> i hope for it. >> but yeah, i don't think she needs it out really good about i don't think he needs to go out and like i support you biden. she was already did that and then also in her documentary, if she's already said where she stands on a lot of issues and like wind to our family and said, i mean, so i don't think anyone's questioning where she stands politically here, but yeah. so i mean, i think he gets kind of i don't think she needs out really get involved, but i think it like donald trump as like a celebrity, celebrity pundit, right? like a celebrity handicap or he is really encapsulating so where she stands in like the firmament of sort of pop culture, right? yeah. >> he clearly has spent more time looking at her than listening to her. she hasn't been a country star for a long time as my swift the daughter could certainly the idea that like people don't necessarily see her as a political figure. and that's why a potential endorsement for her is so powerful, right? because to her legions of fans who just love her no matter what, the things that she says are, can resonate outside that political sphere. and that's why i think she does have the power to potentially move votes is even though she does have this history of endorsed pressing liberal politicians and taking liberal positions, she is not, i think pigeonholed as just sort of hollywood liberal, liberal celebrity. and so she's able to speak in an authentic way to her following it hearkens back to a funny time where donald trump was on twitter like talking about robert patents and kristen stewart member that ten years ago, remember this is very much like the page six, new york celebrity gossip world he had spent 30 years in. this is almost in a way like a very pure version of donald trump, like gossiping about celebrities. >> yeah, no it's, it's, it's it's donald trump, maggie haberman has been cut yeah. all right. >> i will leave you with this oh like she's still got it. courtney cox, letting the world know. she's still has the moves that she showed off in bruce springsteen's video for dancing in the dark, the friends star joining a social media trend where kids ask their parents to show them how they danced in the 1980s, cox famously appeared in springsteen's 1984 and music video. jumping on stage to boogie with the boss molly ball has your daughter made you do this yet no could you better or worse than a by way waveshape, let's put courtney back first quarter me and her dancing. there yep, there she is. >> i mean, honestly that i think i could do that might be the limit of my abilities, but that i could do i mean i don't know because i wouldn't want to do it in public, but i'm not do not checked doing matt either. all right thanks, guys. >> every much. appreciate your time today. thanks for all to all of you for joining us. i'm
that is tonight's last word. tonight, donald trump met his probation officer. we will look at a key step as his sentencing approaches. the fate of hunter biden is now in the jury's hands. why he declined to take the stand. kerr is here speaking out as the 11th hour gets underway on this monday night: good evening, once again, we are now 148 days away from the election. today, one of the leading candidates for president met with his probation officer. donald trump fresh off of his guilty verdict sat for a presentencing interview. nothing standard with how it was held. trump got permission to attend virtually from florida and have his attorney present. trump has been complaining for months about a 2-tier system of justice and he is absolutely right. as new york public defenders pointed out today most people do not get to log in remotely from a resort in florida to talk to their probation officers. as far as what happens in these interviews, probation officers generally ask about things like financial resources, mental health and any links to convicted criminals. they also have to ask if you feel remorse for the crime that you are convicted of. meanwhile n delaware, the hunter biden firearms case went to the jury after both sides made their closing arguments. hunter biden chose not to take the stand. here is my colleague with more. >> reporter: tonight, it is in the hands of the jury. six men, six women deliberating the fate of hunter biden. the first child of a sitting president to be charged with a crime. many of the first family in the courtroom throughout the trial. all of this is not evidence said leo wise while gesturing in the courtroom and in the direction of jill biden in the first row. people sitting in the gallery are not evidence, he said, adding no one is above the law. the special counsel is accused the president's son of liing on a federal background check, checking that he is not an active drug user to purchase a gun. they used evidence from his laptop and called 10 witnesses, many describing hunter biden's drug use including around the time he filled out the background check in october of 2018. hunter biden's ex-wife found drug paraphernalia and his ex- girlfriend who wasidating him at the time said is he was using crack all of the time. the evidence was necessary. the defense attorney gude the prosecution focused far too much on his drug abuse over a 4- year period and no one witnessed drug use during the window of time he purchased a gun. >> with that let's get smarter with the help of our lead off this evening. reporter with "the washington post,," sam stein is here. a journalist and white house editor for politico, and former new york prosecutor charles coleman jr is here. a big legal night so you get first crack. donald trump met with his probation officer today, help us understand the purpose of these interviews, how do they usually go and what do we know about what was asked in this one? >> reporter: stephanie, when your probation officer will be asking you questions what they are trying to understand is basically what is your set up around your life? how do you live? what your financial resources are, what is the impact of the sentence if a judge decides for example to send you to jail. are there other people depending on you, put in a bad position? by that, are you associating with other criminals that we know in the case of trump. he is, we can go down the long list, roger stone, many others, flin, the list goes on and on. most importantly, the most important that they are looking to ascertain, and you talked about it in your lead in, if you have any understanding and appreciation for the crime that you are committed of. donald trump has a difficult tight rope to toe when it comes to this given everything given in the public around this, rather than what he knows prosecution by the da's office. that will be something that will be hard for him to get around. ultimately the report will be something that the judge takes into account when they make their decision around what sentence they ultimately imposed. the da's office is making a recommendation of trump's attorney, going to argue as lenient of a sentence as possible. >> sam, trump is arguing for months and months and months. a two tier justice system. there is. it is benefiting him. we got to meet virtually, his lawyer was there and when he speaks at his rallies he is always saying "i am doing this for you" i am standing here for you. but if any trump supporters were in his position they would not get these special privileges, why do they keep buying this? >> reporter: well, you are absolutely right. we wrote about that in politico, too, when you think of the gag order various points in the criminal case, that was almost done with reluctance compared to what would have been done for any other person in the justice system. trump is a unique person in the justice system that he is a former president running for president currently. it makes sense some leeway is given to him in that regard. the justice system works in this favor in this case. i would argue thereat second start, hunter biden is evidence that it is not a justice system. the president's own department of justice is currently bringing a case against his son f. there was a thumb on the scale of the system of the part of president bid pen. one would think he would do it to alleviate the burdens on his son but the president sat back and watched this thing progress to the point where we will get a verdict in the next day or so. >> i get it has been a crazy last eight years and people have become desensitized. it is not even remotely normal for the presumptive nominee to be meeting with his probation officer what is your treks this response. >> how numb the country has become to everything we watched in the last eight years. nobody can forget and yet we almost act like it was no big deal when then republican nominee for president donald trump was caught on live tape talking about grabbing women in the crotch using a course word and he can get a wid with it because lesay celebrity. starting then and continuing on, it is like a starting gun of new, every other week, every other two weeks, revelations about donald trump as candidate and as a president that made us all kind of gasp and wonder, like, can he survive this? well, donald trump is the nominee for president again. he is the front runner in this race by many polls, and, he is a felon who has been convicted of 34 counts of crimes in the state of new york. the city and the town, where he once ruled. and, all of us are kind of like oh, yeah, that is right, that is how it is. that is, that is sort of the standard now for the last eight years. it is really important for us all to step back and remember that no president and no former president has ever been charged with a crime. and now we have one that has been convicted and is seeking to return to the white house. >> charles, a lawyer wrote in the "new york times" today that donald trump's chances of winning an appeal are slim, what do you think? >> reporter: i think so, stephanie. when you are talking about what it is to appeal a jury the first thing that people need to understand is that it is a rare occurrence that the simple is going to have a decision made by our constitution where you get a dloons have your case heard by a jury of your piers which trump did and override the system and overcalculation by the judge or actions of the attorneys. the judge does not give enough credit for the way he ran this trial. i think he was very much aware of all of the eye's needed to be dotted and t's needed to be crossed that is why he ran such a tight ship. to make sure that there were as few for a po as possible. it does not mean that trump's attorney does not like to seek an issue. rather than it being successful is slim to none. sam, today, bragg says he will testify before the house about the trump case. most likely not until after trump gets sentenced. he knows what he is going to face with house republicans, how do you think he is going to handle this? well, i mean, it is, it, we knew the house republicans were going to do this. they signaled they want to protect trump. they want to go after the prosecution. you know, various over00turs. bringing it to hill. expecting it a long time ago. surprised they did not push harder prior to this. if i were bragg i would point to the fact that trump's piers made a determination guilty on 34 counts. that is the aspects of the american justice system that donald trump had right to the fence. he was given through the fence. there will be questions of who is on the team, funding him. what it comes down to, this is how the justice system would work. they had his defense and, and that is that. the decision was made by a jury of 12. you have to live with it. that is what we do. >> charles, let's shift to what sam was mentioning a moment ago. hunter biden case. what did you make today of both sides closing arguments, of hunter not taking the stand. >> go in reverse, stephanie. hunter bid den not take the stand for a number of reasons t is difficult for hunter bid tone give testimony in any way that is going to exonerate him or defend against those charges without either incriminating him or admitting publicly around his substance abuse. i think that is something that he wanted to avoid. his defense team wanted to avoid that. ultimately if you are looking at this from a 50,000 foot view it is something that would not have been well for the biden administration to have in the headlines, not that it has an impact on hunter's case or the charges but that was part of the calculus here. with respect of what you heard, this is straightforward. i think many legal experts myself included understand that when robert herr, the prosecutor on this case and joe biden allowed to stay on the case brought the charges this, if anything, we seen recently was the most political prosecution that we have seen. i say that because for these federal charges to be brought you typically don't see that absence of violent offense involving the handgun or the weapon that is in question. that is not the case here. hunter biden is not charged with that. we don't have the facts. yet, still, herr decided to bring the charges against hunter biden and the case for the prosecution is straightforward. none of it is. the defense is saying you work with the fact that you have. they don't have great facts. they have to call into question the time line. i don't know if it will be enough for a jury to acquit him or result in a mistrial. >> sam, the president has already said that he will not pardon his son f. he is found guilty he could be taken into custody. how is the campaign going to react to this? they have been hands off. it is taking a toll on the president to make had decision. he is his son, he is a father. when you ask about him and press him on it, they are hands off. as we reported they do not talk about the issue. he does not want to discuss it. not that he does not think there will be political fallout but it is too raw. the question that ultimately comes down to is will republicans try to potentially capitalize on a guilty verdict. we have a debate coming up and trump will use it during the debate. will say upon to this point where we are surprised to see how little republicans are talking about the hunter biden trial including trump himself. does not come up all that much. used to be a topic of a lot of discussion for media and trump but not recently. you wonder if they don't want to draw the attention to his own mishaps or perhaps they test today out and realize there might be effect where people are sympathetic or empathetic to joe biden if you go after his son when fundamentally part of what that issue is, an issue of addiction. now topic, your "washington post" has a story out trump allies with a post- constitutional vision for a second term. this man's name is russell voyt. what can you tell bus this? >> by the way, it is for beth reinhart on this team that presses the trump precedency and the people he is entrusting to make the plans for his new administration. he was a deputy director and in congress as a staffer for a long, long time and other federal agencies. he knows his way around both the legislative and the executive parts of our government and he is using that knowledge to broodily expand the powers of the executive if trump takes office. to the point of saying that he is going to find a way for the justice department to prosecute and imprison those who he feels have wrongly gone after the president in the past. that includes journalists, that includes political figures like biden family members and he is, rather, he would work very hard to loosen the militaries ability to take action at the president's command to stop protests that are against the president to interfere, perhaps, in elections. basically the military would be the entity could send into domestic situations. something that really we have avoided since the horrors of ken state for example. this is a person who believes definitely in the executive theory but, now proposing things behind closed doors. he may end up being the chief of staff for the president, we will see. proposing what will send a chill off of the spine of those studying democracy and its norms. >> here is my head scratcher, carol. a lot of conservatives out there. don't like trump but likes the policies, these are the same people who are all about small government and limited power. this, this man and this plan, isn't that the opposite of small government limited power. this is big, big government with ultimate power. >> i think that is something that you highlighted on your program consistently if i can give you a hat tip. this idea of the hypocrisy, right? the republican party for as long as i have been a reporter, embarrassed to tell you how long that has been has always been about criminal justice and top, forgive me, serious law enforcement. it has been a party. a concern. russia, chief among them. yet, that is all out the window now with trump as president. putin is a great guy in the new republican party. he is a fan of donald trump. therefore, he is for them. it is not important anymore. we really want to support. certain criminal that have been unfairly and i use this quotation marks persecuted. that is the line that the republican party is pushing. and, so, again, this notion of big government for the republican party that is sought the window as well. if it suits donald trump. that is the litnus test. >> people can vote however they like. it is our job to shine a light so people understand exactly who and what they are voting for. carol, always great to see you, sam, charles, thank you as well. when we return, nine months into the war, and five americans are still being held hostage by hamas. why the white house is considering a new strategy for negotiations. and, later, after months in a dead heat in the polls with trump. president biden is revving up his engines and maybe even changing lanes. 11th hour just getting underway on a monday night th hour just on a monday night and living longer are two things i want from my metastatic breast cancer treatment. and with kisqali, i can have both. kisqali is a pill that when taken with an aromatase inhibitor helps delay cancer from growing and has been proven to help people live significantly longer across three separate clinical trials. so, i have the confidence to live my life. kisqali can cause lung problems or an abnormal heartbeat, which can lead to death. it can cause serious skin reactions, liver problems, and low white blood cell counts that may result in severe infections. avoid grapefruit during treatment. tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening symptoms, including breathing problems, cough, chest pain, a change in your heartbeat, dizziness, yellowing of the skin or eyes, dark urine, tiredness, loss of appetite, abdomen pain, bleeding, bruising, fever, chills, or other symptoms of an infection, a severe or worsening rash, are or plan to become pregnant, or breastfeeding. long live life and long live you. ask your doctor about kisqali today. you know what's brilliant? 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[crying] >> falling to his knees when he was reunited with his mom. while their celebrations in israel in gaza there is mourning the hamas-run health ministry that does not distinguish between combat onand civilian deaths, 270 palestinians were killed including 64 children, one woman telling us. >> my family is destroyed. my house is destroyed >> they are reporting that the u.s. is discussing a new move if seize fire moves fail, making a deal with hamas to release the remaining american hostages, negotiating through qatar and not with israel. according to two senior officials. my number one priority as secretary of state is to ensure the well being of americans who are in harm's way anywhere in the world. >> that is your top priority, wouldn't indirect talks for the americans at least bring those americans home, possibly? >> the most effective way to do that to achieve that is through the proposal on the table. so, let's see if we get an answer from hamas. >> for more. peter baker joins us the chief correspondent for the "new york times," peter, is it a sign that the white house is frustrated with the pace of negotiations between israel and hamas? >> yes. of course, obviously. nine months, these american hostages have been there the entire time. the american government has basically taken, deferred the israeli government when it comes to dealing with the hostages, most of the hostages have duel citizenship, theyor the ground. the united states is not. it suggests an impatience at this point. its own hostage remain at, in limbo in effect. remaining at odds for this proposal. you heard him say. hamas at this point to accept this proposal. i think that is an important point that they want to make. israel has, in fact, despite public talk of benjamin netanyahu's statements, right now, frustrated that this has taken so long, seen not to be heading towards a conclusion and therefore, obviously, they will be willing to think about ways to get just the americans at this point out if there is a way to do it. >> president biden is not the only one expressing frustrations. benny gantz just resigned saying it is the prime minister, he is standing in the way of real victory. what does that signal to you about the state of the war effort and prospects for new elections over there? benjamin netanyahu not once but multiple times in elections for the idea they sat together and the work ethic is remarkable situations, hard to imagine joe biden, donald trump sitting together in a unity government. but, this point, they decided enough is enough. it is not working. prime minister benjamin netanyahu is an obstacle to resolution rather than a leader of it. it puts it. they may require on the far right, staying in power, he knows he will appeal. he may back himself up not finding himself comfortable. avoiding further elections. we would love to see where it leads and further elections and not much chance and not a lot of optimism for prime minister benjamin netanyahu to win another election. he has been a remarkable part of politics. let's sit with the right wing and change locations. you were just in france with president biden. when he was there he spent a lot of time trying to reassure nato allies who are nervous about a second trump term. i want to know how his message was received, a, and b, we keep hearing about our european allies that are worried about trump. there are a lot of elections that took place over europe and they were big, big wins for the far right. it happening over there as well? >> you are absolutely right. not just a u.s. issue. the european elections on sunday were a remarkable shift in power. for the right. you saw president macron from france that just hosted biden the night before, state dinner where they held hands in effect in favor of establishment politics so rocked he is calling new elections in france himself to see if he can not win over his own public where he is, in fact, not very popular, either. these guys will all get together in italy later there week at a g-7 meeting and talk about a lot of the issues like gaza and ukraine and so forth. hovering over it is their weakness, biden's approval is higher than some of the other leaders at the summit. it is a time where they are all on their back heels a little bit amid this right wing popularrism we are seeing in europe and the united states. >> peter, you always make us smarter, thank you very much for being here tonight. when we come back. biden getting a revamp. his new strategy to rev up the race, when "the 11th hour" returns the race, when "the 11th hour" returns good results. look at that! the broccoli was fantastic. that broccoli! i think some of them were six, seven pounds. let's get started. bill, where's your mask? 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>> i think it is smart. reaching people where they are. we know people are getting news from a lot of less traditional outlets and people are watching the news less frequently any way and checking out politics. it is splart to find them when they are not paying attention to the new issues any way. biden campaign recognizes that it has to do with whatever it has to do as we head towards crunch time here. >> mark t is not just about his base. this is about nikki haley voters, trumpers, independents, these are the people who make or break the election. it is currently by a lot of polls in a dead heat. president trump, former president trump is not looking ahead of his base. is this going to work for biden? >> yeah. he has to look beyond the base. that is where the election will be decided. i remember when the bush campaign was in big, big trouble in 2000. we had to do a reset. we kind of got push into it. we did not want to do it. ultimately we decided we needed to because we had to. part of it was prescripted and part of it was making changes but a big part, just doing a reset for the press and the larger public to say okay we heard the message we are doing things differently. it makes sense practically speaking and broodily. you are sending a message to everybody. you heard the message. yes, we are doing things differently. again, in this campaign it is so razor thin. the bidens got to do literally everything right there is one of them. this is good. >> one of the things he needs to do is turn up the volume on the things that donald trump is saying. they are doing that. they are seizing on some of the comments that trump made at his nevada rally this weekend. >> i don't want anyone going on me, we need any voter. i don't care about you i just want your vote, i don't care. >> so, what i just heard him say, i don't care about you, i just want your vote. broy an, did the rally attendees hear this? 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they are taking credit for things they voted against? >> no, they don't know the truth because they are not going to hear the truth. it is hypocritical. let me make another point on the vegas speech and the ad and by the way there is another ad that i think the biden campaign has done and it is the best one. donald trump in his own voice talking about veterans. i think they should just leave that up through election day. it is specifically good. really impactful. by the way trump has been complaining about it. what we call that is hit dogs barking. [ laughter ] >> you know he is feeling the pain so it is working. as a former ad guy, i know the most effectiving you can do is not say what you think that person said but let them say what they said themselves, it is great. >> i want to go back to the infrastructure point. what do you do about the fact that you have house republicans patting themselves on the back, taking credit for passing things they voted against? >> i think they have done an effective job at exposing these people. biden said it out loud. he was in lauren's district and she is trying to take credit. going out there, getting in the districts and doing that. and basically where trump one day rallying against toilets nothe flushing and keeping himself out of prison and then biden talking about $35 inhalers and $35 insulin and $2,000 a month health care plans, stuff that is going to impact regular people. they are good-bye that, side by side, it is a matter of getting it out there and hammering the message, over and over and over again. >> they often say what is the one thing that a politician did to change your life or help you in some way and you just got to show people. thank you for being here. still ahead, you want to stay up for this. when coach steve kerr talks, everybody listens the nine time nba champion is here next. his big endorsement in this election and his take on caitlin clark's first month in the pros when the "11th hour" continues the pros when the "11th hour" continues some people just know there's a better way to do things. and some people... don't. bundle your home and auto with allstate and save. you're in good hands with allstate. hi, i'm greg. i live in bloomington, illinois. i'm not an actor. i'm just a regular person. some people say, "why should i take prevagen? 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>> i mean it is clear that president biden is really interested in implementing gun safety measures. common sense gun violence pro vens measures. i have been doing a lot of work the last 10 years with a lot of gun safety prevention people like brady, giffords, sandy hook promise, march for our lives. i have learned so much. i know that we can prevent lives -- president biden is adamant he is going to push for common sense law that can do that. i know that president trump will not do that. so it is a simple choice for me. >> are you voting for joe biden or against donald trump. >> i am voting for joe biden. i think the biggest thing for me is, everybody needs to vote their conscious. on a few issues but this is the main one. i lost my father to gun violence when i was 18 years old. i know how much pain people go through every single day in this country. i know that, that gun violence is the number one killer of children in america. and, i know that there is so much that we can do about this. and, i think most people out there agree with me if you are republican or a democrat. 80% of people in this country want, want universal background checks. does not matter your political affiliation. we can do this. we kind of have to steer the cruise ship there. it is going to take time. we need to implement laws that the vast majority of our country want and president biden is willing to do the work to try to get those changes. >> you have said in the past that before you lost your father, as you said when you were only 18, you felt like your life was impentrable nothing bad can happen to you. what do you say to those people who don't say gun violence is a part of their life so they don't make it a priority. >> you don't know. the chances are likely that you won't be impacted. but there is a good chance that you will, also. and the that is a scary thought. i am a recent grandfather. i have a granddaughter that is 18 months old. i am thinking a lot about when she goes off to kinder garten and she -- kindergarten and she will have to go through mass shooting drills and the trauma our kids across america go through just from the drills and the possibility of facing that kind of situation. it is traumatizing and it is just it is a terrible thought that all of our children are feeling this way. and, again, we know that common sense laws save lives, they absolutely do. and there is so much that we can do and, and it is kind of my civic project that i like to work on. it is just, you know, trying to help get the cruise ship moving. it is going to take a lot of work. it really is up to us as private citizens toip sift that our government, you know, take the necessary moves to make that happen. >> there is a lot of other public figures that share their views, many endorsed biden in 2020. many are staying quiet now. expressing public views right now is getting more and more difficult. the backlash is real. this is not going to be easy for you. you will get heat from all sorts of people. why did you decide to speak out? >> well, it is too important to save lives. and to, i think, do something that is important for our country. not that i am going to be able to do anything by myself but i have a platform. if i can at least get the message out there. i think it is important for families to talk about this issue, neighbors, friends, you know, there is not an attack on the second amendment. this is about implementing things that can save lives. and, again, it could be your own child, it can be your own mother or father, could be you. we have to understand the gravity of gun violence in our country. and not just pass it off as well, this is the price of freedom, you know. that is what a lot of people say. we have to have the freedom that the second amendment provides us. freedom should also be kids going to school and not being afraid. and, there are ways to do this. we can protect the second amendment but protect our citizens with some really simple laws. we just have to get everybody on board. it is such a political hot- button. it is really not a common thought in our country that this is a controversial issue. it is not. as i say, 80% of people want universal background checks. we should have that. that alone would save hundreds if not thousands of lives every year in america. >> you said it right there. it is a political hot-button issue. not when you go in people's homes and sit at their kitchen tables and talk to them about what matters to them. i do want to talk to you about something else that matters to you that you know a lot about. obviously basketball. before you go. you played with michael jordan on the chicago bulls, you know how this super star was treated early and the attention he got. given your experience, your firsthand knowledge, what do you think about caitlin clark's treatment so far in the wnba? >> i think it is a rite of passage. wnba or nba. other players will test you. she reminds me a lot of steph curry. a lot of people may not remember this but in his first couple of years he was not a super star. he was not who he is now. he had to get stronger, he had to understand people were coming after him. that is what is happening with her right now. i think it is all in the name of competition she is handling herself beautifully. she is an amazing player. like any player that comes into the wnba, nba it takes time, they have to get stronger. get used to the athleticism. she will be fine. i think everything she is going through right now is all part of being a pro. >> what do you think about the fact that she will not be at the olympics, you will be there? >> i am so excited. i am sorry she will not be. i am sure she will have a chance in four years. when you put the olympic teams together all you care about is winning. and, you know, it is probably going to take caitlin a couple years to be at the top. i think the women's team is taking the 12 players that they think can help bring home a gold and that is exactly what the men's team did. you know, that is the name of the game. no politics in the olympics. we just want to win. >> and i sure hope you do this year. i can say, nobody remembers when steph curry was not a super star. steve, great to see you, thank you for joining us tonight >> thank you, great seeing you. >> we will have more "11th hour" after the break have morh hour" after the break you know what's brilliant? 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who almost batch steph curry in a three-point shooting contest this past february at the starting name, what is it about caitlin clark? it's not just that she's white. steph curry stood out from other great black stars in the nba because he played in a way that was appealing and relatable. shooting from the logo, dr. jay was more appealing and brought in more fans and his teammate moses malone, who was a three-time mvp because dr. jay's game was more flamboyant. michael jordan wasn't just great. he was fun to watch caitlin clark is fun to watch. >> yeah. and she is going to be a star pretty much no matter what do you think she'll ultimately be an alternate for the olympic team? >> i think he could be. i think that's possible. and the concern that because she'd be reserve and she wouldn't play that many minutes and therefore, her fans would be up in arms just put the point out there, educate them it would help the olympics. christine brennan made the same point. more eyeballs and limping straw. a lot of eyeballs to begin with, but it's a global event. more eyeballs on those games. how can that be bad caitlin clark is good for the league, good for everybody. in the league. i shall be good for the olympics to it if she got there, she will be there yeah. thank you. great. thank you. as always. and thank you for watching news night. laura coates live starts right now. >> tonight, donald trump tries to rewrite the history of january 6, yet again, as he now re-branded those who stormed the capital plus trump's interview with his probation officer. what we're learning about his virtual sit down and what it might mean for his chances at sentencing and new tonight, elon musk mad at apple over there, deal with openai, the threat he's now making good evening i'm, jim acosta in for laurie votes on this monday night for months, donald trump has heatedly referred to january 6 rioters as hostages. there's obviously no truth to that, but trump has spent much of his campaign constructing an alternate reality for supporters so they can believe a different narrative when it comes to january 6, one that paints the former president as the real victim of the 2020 race. the race he lost the race. he tried to overturn, but now trump is road-tested. a new nickname for the people who attack the capital those j6 warriors, they were worries, but they were really more than anything else. >> the victims of what happened all they were doing is protesting a rigged election that's what they were doing. >> and then the police say go and go in, go in water, set-up. >> that was what a horrible, horrible thing. and you know, that blows two ways. >> warriors, he called them a reality check. if anyone was a warrior that de january 6, it was the brave police officers to face their wrath trying to defend the capital. people like my next guess, sergeant aquilino gonell, who was attacked and beaten as he tried to hold the line on january 6, he's here here's with me tonight, and i'll speak with him in just a few moments. but sergeant good now, is not donald trump's view of a warrior. know instead, this apparently is people like thomas webster. there you see him in the red jacket. prosecutors say he swung a metal flagpole at an officer before choking him with his chin strap. he was convicted and sentenced to ten years in prison. people like dominic puzzle prosecutor said he used a riot shield, a police riot shields is smashed through one of the capital windows, allowing the mob to storm in. he two was convicted and sentenced to ten years. in prison for his actions. now, trump is calling them warriors. trump has openly mused about issuing pardons for january 6 defendants. if he wins reelection advocating for their behalf has become a hallmark of his campaign. trump isn't running from january 6, in many ways, he's running on january 6. as you heard in that sound, a few moments ago, trump said, quote, what a setup that was, what a horrible thing. and you know, that goes two ways. that goes two ways. he said, joining me now, former us capitol sergeant aquilino gonell, he was he has been campaigning for president biden in some swing-state he's also the author of american shield, the immigrant sergeant, who defended democracy, sergeant canal. thank you very much for being with us. we appreciate it. i can't think of anybody better to join me. tonight's talk about this. you've talked about january 6, the injuries that you suffered, the surgeries that you had to go through. i've talked about this many times, physical therapy that you had to go through. you could have died that day and when you hear donald trump call these rioters and insurrectionists warriors what do you think? what's your reaction is a impudence to the sacrifice of many of the officers who risk at all to defend those electoral facial from the both parties we will protecting both nancy pelosi and kevin mccarthy the same thing. same way. we protect chuck schumer's much mechano and all the electrification from both party regardless of how political views. so we were actually doing our job and to hear those type of connotations coming from the foreign president is a desecration to a service we of officer who validly and bailey, definitely the kaprow a day. yeah. i mean, certainly going to you and i've talked about this. i mean, one of the things that worries me about january 6 is that people are just sort of erasing it from their memories there's a lot of talk about whether we have trump amnesia going on. it sounds like there's a little bit of trump acceptance in january 6 upset acceptance what do you think is going on? why do you think there are people who go out to these rallies and applaud and shear when they hear him call people hostages. and in this case, warriors i mean, it's these are the same people that claim to be supported. the police officers. but yet they don't see us. the capitol police and metropolitan police those who defend the capital and our democracy on, that day as such they see us as an impediment to what they set out themselves to do, which was overthrown the world of people on jeremy six. and part of, part of that is the same people who we protect it. >> they had sided with the what the talking points, the foreign presence says that nothing happened if it did something did happen is not as bad as we say, but on jeremy six, there were scared. so scale of the mob that they ran for further live in fear. and that's unfortunate because he's talked about pardoning. yes some of these folks, all of them, i think what do you say about that? i mean, it's it's very unfortunate. again, we protected both parties the same. we were actually doing our job and those people who are in jail right now has been converted. i have been processed through the court system some of them today we're on trial and they were found guilty in a later date. they're going to be sentenced and some of the same people who assaulted me personally i've gone through core multiple times, 23 so far and two weeks ago, one of them got 14 years for assault, multiple officers at the same time these are the type of people that he says that he's going to pardon rising up, telling them they are hostile years political prisoners and who are we the officers to them yeah. well, i think one of the things that is really disturbing about him referring to these individuals as warriors is it's almost as it sounds like he's thinking he sending these people into battle. well than sending them off to war against fellow americans. >> exactly. and that's the other thing is like he says, i think the same statement that it was oh, i set up well, who invoke them? to be there? the kaprow in the first place it wasn't capitol police. it wasn't metropolitan police. it was in the sayyed arms or anything like that jerry six wouldn't happen if he had not told those people in the middle of december 2020 to be at the end the capital for jeremy six, because i worked several chamfer power situation anyway, know that that was happening. that event was the last point of certification. i didn't know that. but i doubt that majority of the people in the american people knew that at all follower knew that onto he said such thing to bring him to invoke them, to come here to the capital four general six. >> well, certainly going now we cannot ever thank you enough for your bravery. what you did on january of six, what's your fellow officers? people like mike for now and harry dunn? we've talked to them so many times over the year, over the years i really appreciate what you did that day. thank you so much. we can't forget and i know you and i were talking about this before the segment. you'd like to see a plaque hanging in that tunnel at the capital that you and others defended that day, just so there is this recognition? correct. >> and this is something that was passed into law two years ago republican speaker of the house, mike johnson, continued to hold that plaque. approval in committee. and i want that plaque to be put in place for the next president, future president, to say. so they could see how a group officer, the name, read the names of the authors who risk at all to preserve our democracy and a day and very shameful for them to continue to hold it up. the same way that they say that they claim to be supported the police. but yet well, another thing that happened was somebody police officers, the capitol police union put a a proposal for two count some of the overtime service that they had done since january 6, to count tours, their retirement and republican on the senate, they blocked. >> all right we're going to continue to follow that as well. we'll stay on top of it. certainly can now great to see you. thanks for having so much today, donald trump clearing a hurdle on his way to being sentenced in new york city. he took part in a court-mandated pre-sentencing interview with a probational officer. normally they are done in person, but trump attended at virtually from florida, were told that took less than 30 minutes at a source told us that trump answered all the questions he was described as accommodating, respectful, and polite. that's quoting from that source, the probation department did not rule out the possibility of a follow-up meeting before his july 11 sentencing for falsifying business records and joining me now to talk about this, cnn legal commentator and former trump attorney chimp tim parlatore. and former commissioner of new york city's department of probation, martin horn. gentlemen, thanks for being with us late on this monday night. appreciate it, martin. >> this was bit of an unprecedented meeting today. a walk us through the kind of questions that the former president was likely asked well, he was sure asked to give his version of the offense. >> he was confronted with the charge against him and asked for his side of the story he was given an opportunity to put forth any mitigating factors that the judge should take into account in imposing sentencing. and i'm sure or at least he was supposed to have been asked about his family situation is financial situation his education is employment history whether or not he's had any physical or mental issues that would interfere with his ability to support himself and i'm sure that he answered them in a way that was favorable to himself yeah. >> and tim, 30 minutes. that seems kinda brief why do you suppose that is? >> well, the new york state presents interviews are much less involved than the federal ones. and so in particular, when you have a case like this where a defendant has been convicted after trial, but they do intend to appeal. they retain their fifth amendment rights through that those appeals. so i have no doubt that his attorneys advised him don't answer any questions regarding the offense and probably hold the probation officer look, he's invoking his fifth amendment. see, you can skip that part of the interview and just go straight to family history and things like that that really shortens the process. >> and martin, how much will the judge judge merchan take all of this into account hard to say. >> certainly this judge knows this defendants it's rare in new york for there to be situation where the defendant has been found guilty by a verdict at trial 95% of the findings of guilt or the result of a plea deal where the sentence has already been negotiated. so this is relatively rare, but again there may be factors that a defendant would want to bring to the judge's attention that has not previously been known. and remember, this interview is confidential, so it's an opportunity for the defendants to share with the judge mitigating factors that he or she might not i want to share with the general public and tim, what about all the comments that trump made outside the courtroom where he railed against the judge, blamed president biden for the prosecution, doesn't that get taken into consideration? >> and i have to ask you when here from sources that trump was bribed as a polite and cooperative sort of thing that doesn't sound like the donald trump that we saw outside the courtroom during the course of that trial. what do you make that? >> distinction there? >> for one thing, when he's outside of the courtroom in front of the cameras, he is both defendant trump, but he's also candidate trump. he's definitely playing it up for the purposes of the campaign. whereas he doesn't have to do that behind closed doors with a probation officer, a lot of the things that he said during those press conferences wouldn't be relevant at all. yeah. to this interview. so in fact, i'm sure that todd blanche said we're not answering any questions about his opinions about the judge or anything like that. let's just stick to his history. and so to the extent that they're asking him questions about his family history is education is business history? i think that that's something that he would be very very common, very accommodating on. so i don't it doesn't surprise me at all, given the narrow scope of what they would be talking about. >> all right. will martin, tim? 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i mean, he's he's basically saying we can't compromise, won one side or the other is going to win here. is that, is that how a supreme court justice should know? i mean, it would seem to me that supreme court justices, when they deliver eight, they compromise all the time as they should. and i think his comments, when contrasted two chief justice roberts are unmeasured. roberts was very careful in how he responded. these types of leading questions and, you know, alito was just at the very least, very sloppy in his answers, but i don't know that it revealed a lot other than the fact that justice alito has a very conservative viewpoint that came across, but he shouldn't be. necessarily articulating it in the manner he he just did. >> yeah, maria, this filmmaker, laura in windsor, we should though, she's the one who went out and did this she went on to say this to justice alito. >> we put it up on screen people in this country who believe in god have got to keep fighting for that, to return our country to a place of godliness to that justice alito replied, i agree with you. i agree with you. now, again, she was posing as somebody who was supportive of him and but she was able to extract some very notable comments and pretty remarkable comments. it is disturbing on so many levels because he is in a position we already saw what he did. he was the one who wrote the argument that got rid of roe v. wade. and he used in at some arcane 18th century law that essentially said that women should be subservient, that we don't have the ability to make these decisions. >> and what he just said to ms windsor i mean, it reminded me of i don't know if you all have washed your feet. >> audience has watched handmade, stale yeah. >> that was gilead but he was described as one thing i was terrifying. there's one thing i wanted to talk about and i don't want to jam the segment because there's other stuff i want to get to, but what's fascinating about this audio of sam alito is in charlie, you know this from these confirmation hearings that make headlines up on capitol in the senate when supreme court justices go through that process there, so choreograph there, so scripted they're told what to say, what not to say, and they're very careful and answering all these questions here is just like a few minutes of audio. got probably more candor from justice alito that we got during the confirmation process. yeah. i was just shocked by how unguarded he was. yeah again, these you're right. >> you've watched these confirmation hearings and they are so scripted, they are so careful not to say anything that might impact how they would have to rule on some matter before them in this case? >> you just do that all away he thought he was just talking to a friendly audience here and was surprised by the by the recording. >> but again he's gotten himself in trouble for a number of reasons now, just because he's not careful. >> yeah. marie, i do want to ask you about this. there's new video tonight of rudy giuliani speaking at a christian event at a church where he speaks in very derogatory terms about the fulton county attorney, fani willis. let's listen to this then. i've got to prosecutors. >> sandi the whole i mean, you know wow. >> america's mayor, ladies and gentlemen, that well, yeah. i mean, once upon a time. yeah. i mean it's almost unfortunate to even bring this up because obviously it's just a horrendous thing to say. but i mean, it also speaks at what in the world has happened to read giuliani the fall from grace was fast and furious and it you know, talking to so many people who used to work with him and know him. they don't know who this person is. they don't know who that man. >> i've known this guy for over 25 years and i don't know that could all i don't recognize them. it sad. >> this is a man who was, he was pro-choice on abortion. he was pro gay rights and but he got swept up with all this. trump's stuff and you just can't is it something about there are so many of them. they just feel like they have to slothouber all over donald. it's like it's it's cultish is held. but it's also kind of want to be relevant to add and pathetic, like kinda hanging on kinda clam and he's getting older. you want to be relevant, you want to be in the conversation. and so you go down this row, you don't want to just be the guy that goes to denny's for the grand slam special. you want to still be invited to speak at events and stuff. >> i don't almost wonder if there's any sort of mental decline there because he had he's commanded such respect at one point in his life. is this all worth it now, like is this the legacy? the he wants to leave his family and the history books because he is now a laughing stock and he will be this is what he's going to be remembered for yeah. what what what a legacy. i mean, he had a he had a good legacy. legacy, get a good legacy going out and the throw it all away. hey, just to be in trump's good graces should have quit at four seasons landscaping. >> but you know, to your point, jim, he's not the only one i've heard so many people say that the moment that they have come into donald trump's orbit, something happens to them. they leave their spines on the table. they leave their character behind, and they are there to just genuflecting the altar of donald trump. >> and that is sad with charlie's saying, it just, just to be relevant, it's just it's just but then there comes the exercise and reputational rehabilitation for many. >> once i've done it, they've been there the whole time and then they then they realized well, maybe i'm a little dirty and i can't wash it off and now they think now, then they tried to make amends as best they can, you know, once once they're no longer no longer close to power, that moment says more about giuliani than fani willis, sorry. charlie, maria, thank you very much. i just had a jury now deliberating the fate of hunter biden. that is federal gun trial. and it was a dramatic day in court with one family member seen weeping someone who was inside the courtroom joins me the assignments are. going off and playing the tornado here i'm thinking i'm going to die and i thought that was it. >> violin earth with liev schreiber. sunday at nine on cnn lumina whitening strips know grok side, no pain i can use them every day if i want he what i want drink what i want, profit aluminium strip and l0 my smile is back on point easy is outdated. >> dmv has two forms of my id think of all the places that can expose your info, lifelong monitors millions of data points for identity theft. there's a problem. we fix it, guaranteed sentenced, you make a sale is now odd with race from 199 for a person per night. >> this is sad those.com or call 1800 sand if you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with part sega because they're places who'd like to be for seeker can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections and low blood sugar are rare life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin the perineum could occur, stop taking four sika and call your doctor right away at the symptoms of disinfection and allergic reaction or ketoacidosis find anything let me start when i do my friends, i can find anything with myself see something that you like we'll round it will be something wait. >> no, i'm always hot sleep number doesn't match. can i make my side softer? 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that's pretty rough. >> great. i mean, the biden family was there, right? the whole entire trial. so first lady was there almost every day. his sister, his wife, they were their most days and i think throughout the trial, including on closings, they all had different reactions. sometimes strong reactions, right. i mean, i think one thing that sticks out is whenever they played the voice of hunter biden reading his memoir, particularly at the beginning, you saw real emotional reaction from someone the biden family, and i think today they went hard after the prosecutors went hard after his past drug use and used it in very vivid, brutal language. i'm sure for the family to hear. so there was reaction to that yeah. >> tim, i mean, could some of this backfire? i mean, a lot of people have sympathy for folks who were battling drug addiction in the prosecution kind of going after hunter biden on addiction in that way could backfire with at least a couple of the jurors in a way that might. not bode well for the prosecution i think you can. >> i mean, it's something that we saw during the trial with jurors reacting to this they've made him a sympathetic character, which is not something the prosecution normally, once do something also that they didn't really address so much during closing arguments, but i think that may affect the jurors is if you hit him so hard on his drug use do you undermine his ability to really think through and form the requisite criminal intent. so i do think that that could be something that would backfire. >> yeah. and perry, the prosecution during one moment, pointed to the three rows and the courtroom taken by the biden family biden supporters, including the first lady, saying that people sitting in the gallery are not evidence in the case, do we know how that played with the jury? and i mean, obviously that goes without saying, but how did that go over in the courtroom? >> yeah i mean, we don't write we don't know, but obviously the fact that prosecutors did that to me suggests that they feel at least that having the first lady right? the first lady always a pretty popular figure. jill biden is a popular figure, so they obviously were at least fearful of how that would play with the jury, right? this is a pretty remarkable thing. he's the charges themselves aren't the case is not it's a gun case, but the fact that you have the first lady, this this man's mom sitting there every day of the trial and it wasn't just her. i mean, this is, a jury of dealt people from delaware, wilmington city council person, a very popular are from what i understand a well-known pastor and wilmington as that first, there were lots of people that the jury could recognize and people do this all the time. obviously, they're there for support for hunter biden, but i don't know what the family exactly was thinking, but in lots of defendant's bring family with them, people that know them to show that the jury that they are loved supported person have people that early think they're good members good yeah. and tim, i was wondering about i've been wondering about this the entire trial, whether or not the biden family's trying to send the message to the jury to the judge, to the courtroom. this is a personal matter this is a biden family matter what did you make of the family being there in the first lady i mean, being there throughout this case. >> i mean, it's certainly is a lot more sympathetic than back when i used to represent wise guys with their families there are but i think it is one the trump case. i mean, you saw some family members were there somewhere? it is. and it's something that if if in prosecution in this case is kind of on the underdogs politically with this jury, ordinarily said defenses, something you have to address. you have to acknowledge, hey, look, i recognize that there are these these passions and these things, but i'm asking you as the jury to get past that. so i think that the prosecution was right to at least acknowledge it, but don't dwell on it. >> and i think that it is something that jurors look at it's one of the reasons why you want to have the family there if the family can be sympathetic. right. all right. tim perry thanks very much. really appreciate it in the meantime, elon musk giving a big warnings and iy is threatening to ban apple devices at his company's next you 19th, cnn celebrated juneteenth, his by john legend, eddie lewbel you robinson, we still have a lot of work to do. >> june team celebrating freedom and legacy. wednesday, june 19 at ten on cnn in an detect this. >> living with hiv. robert learned he can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why he switched to nevado divider was a complete hiv treatment for some adults. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable, than davon detect this morning to learn that most hiv pills contain three or for medicines, devito is as effective with just two if you have hepatitis b, don't stop to vada without talking to your doctor. don't take to vada. if you're allergic to its ingredients are taking dofetilide. this can cause serious or life-threatening side effects if you have a rash or allergic reactions, symptoms stopped to vado and get medical help right away, serious or life-threatening lactic acid buildup and liver problems can occur. tell your doctor if you have kidney or liver problems or if you are pregnant? 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is this a threat? is that what's going on? >> it is so elon musk, just raise $6 billion for his own competitive ai company called xii and there's also some sort tensions and feelings because he was a co-founder of openai. many years ago, he left in 2015 teen arguing that they weren't doing the best at safety and data protection. and so you can see why he's going after apple now for this partnership. but honestly gym, the whole thing just feels really petty. >> yeah. why did he can't own everything? but when it comes to safety and security, does allowing open ai to integrate into the iphone make the product less safe? i mean, we know elon musk has he has issued these warnings. he was up on capitol hill recently saying ai could lead to an extinction event or whatever. we hear from folks who are concerned about this sort of thing. you don't want to conflate two issues. so if we don't regulate ai at all, yes, it could lead to some really bad consequences. but looking at this narrowly about whether or not apple partnering with openai is some essential privacy threat is not the same thing as it being a long-term threat to humanity. apple has rolled out so many different apps across devices. it has rolled out different privacy features that you and i are used to. how many times have you clicked? ask app not to track me. >> yeah, they have privacy measures in place and the other thing to note, jim, apple works with millions of developers anytime you're downloading an app in an app store, that's a third party developer that apple allows on its platform, there are plenty of sun security measures in place to make sure that it's safe. >> yeah. and we already have ai in our phones anyway. i mean, i was looking at instagram recently and i noticed, okay, there's an ai function on instagram, so it's there, it's happening part of the promisee, the privacy issue to jim is consumers have to be aware of what they're sharing. apple is going to protect your data from openai that's part of their promise here. but it's on you not to share anything that you think is so sensitive that you wouldn't want it to potentially be breached. they don't put your credit card information in chatgpt? yeah. and openai as deals with both microsoft and apple i mean, open ai seems to be kind of cornering the market here what are the implications there? so microsoft is a huge backer of openai. >> they own 49% of it. and that means that openai will be the primary company that gets access to all of its products, like linkedin et cetera. openai is also taking the lead on striking deals with a bunch of ip holders. think about news publishers, et cetera. >> they are competing against google and a few other companies. >> but really openai has become the most recognizable name because they're consumer-facing app chatgpt is so popular. >> and there's been a lot of talk at well, apple needs to make the iphone sexy again, it needs to make a cool again, it's sort of become like an appendage we're all used to having the iphone weathers does ai do this? does it get in the neighborhood of doing that, making the iphone more interesting? it helps. >> i mean, if you think about it in the us, jim, the vast majority of people use apple ios devices, but abroad that's not the case. >> so what they need to do is make sure that their phone is the best smartphone out there on the market so that they can expand their dominance globally. >> and then the other thing is apple is making more and more money off of services. so like payments that you get from itunes or from buying extra cloud storage or average pricing, because hardware sales have leveled off. and so if they're investing in ai, they're hoping you're going to spend more time with the app. they can eventually serve you more ads and all of their different functions. and they can up charge you that way. >> the thing with apple is and, you know, i figured this out. this is why i saw the iphone bove is because i got the screen protector, i got the case. i don't break it anymore. so they i'm not getting new iphones every six months like i used to, but that might be affecting things. i want to work on that make them more breakable? 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it's stupid. >> stephen smith there, even the x account of the republican house judiciary committee posted quote, caitlin clark should be on the olympic team cnn sports analyst in usa today columnist christine brennan broke this news over the weekend. it was a blockbuster. she joins me now, christine, great reporting as always okay. i was saying before the break and i was told by the i believe i was told by the executive producer i'm i show that i could on this show that i can give my opinion on this and i'm going to give my opinion this stinks. yeah, this sucks. >> i'm sorry. but caitlin clark should be on this team and i'm sorry if i'm just no way you're aside here, but i am jim. you're not alone. there are millions of people who agree with you. caitlin clark is one of the most popular, if not the most popular athlete in the country, male or female? well, any sport. and this was an opportunity for usa basketball to really grow the women's game. and i can speak as someone who's been to ten summer olympics going all the way back to 1984 when i started in kindergarten. and i've covered women's basketball at every olympics and what you see in the press tribune at the gold medal game for the us women's basketball team, tumble weeds. most female sports writers they don't want anything to do with the women's basketball team. they want to cover the men or people are covering other events. you bring caitlin clark to paris and the eyeballs of the entire world are on her. >> the media coverage you're going to have reporters from all over wanted to come and see this american sensation, even if she only played four or 56 minutes again. >> and all the other players would have gotten publicity in the process. the headlines that they so richly deserve. why was she left off the team? i'm still reporting that i've talked to people. here's what we've seen in the wnba so far. >> it's been a chilly reception for caitlin clark with some of the other players might that have something to do with it? >> could, it could. i reported i have two sources actually now a third who confirmed for me that part of the conversation in the calculation of whether to put her on the team or not? was and this shock the living daylights out of me, jim, was that there was concern that if you put her on the team and she only gets a few minutes of playing time her millions of fans back in the united states and radio shows and whatever would create controversy about. now, i laughed when i first heard that i thought that cannot be something that's being you say can we say bs can i say? what can i say it at this hour? how about say enough, we should be able to say that is how about that? >> i'm sorry. >> they're not going to ask you to fill in for laurie again. >> that is like seventh grade going on fourth-grade. okay. >> the reason why she is so special and we all saw this when she was out there on on the on the court. she can he that three-point shot from so i mean, it's just unbelievable. washington du and the passes that having you and i've talked about this, what she does on the court is remarkable. >> it's the high-wire act at the circus. watch or bring the ball down, the logo 3s rebounding may be more important, but you've got five or six people down there throwing elbows and i'm a tall woman. i was the one under the basket. yeah. but for the uninitiated fan, people who are just coming to basketball, which is by the way, millions and millions of people to watch her they don't necessarily know that, but they can keep their eye on her. the singular figure down the court heaving that three, the beautiful passes and it's just great fun to watch it. as i said, it is that kind of trapeze act. and that's the entertainment value that the wnba and usa basketball, i'm not so sure that that they're thinking about but the team and about who's been there before. and you don't want to miss this up. the cohesin lock around it all of a once in a lifetime for women's sports, growing the game. think of the number. there are also other great players. >> well, that would get the attention. fabulous players that they have never gotten that as i was saying earlier, how about the 20 to us? i say jersey. >> how many would have been sold in africa, in europe, and asia the money that could have been made for youth development programs for getting more girls in the game women's sports needed this desperately and it's just a huge missed opportunity and christine, the other thing that i wanted to say about this one, i saw caitlin clark's the comments, the way she handled this class act handily perfectly, which i have to think is probably irritating the living daylights or whoever is mad at her right now. >> jim scene is taking this out on her, is 22 22,000,000,040 the weight of the world dawn staley said it took the microphone at the women's final game and said, you've been shouldering the burden for our league women's sports. >> we have never seen anyone quite like this. i mean, going back probably the billie jean king, she's bigger than the 1999 and women's world cup. and the big winner in all this at the end of the day, caitlin clark yeah, she's handling it. the sympathy, the support that she has. but again, just think of what could have been in paris and the thing that i worry about and maybe you can tell me because you know this better than i would know. i have started to worry about caitlin clark a little bit that we're going to get into one of these situations where we see these athletes and there's just so much piled on top of them because of the spotlight, because of the pressure, it can cause problems. and we've seen this, we've talked about sport, mental health of athletes from naomi osaka to michael phelps, and on it goes caitlin clark has a confidence about her that is very much in keeping with someone born in 2000 to getting full blast title nine she is also so comfortable in insider skin, so composed. i met her for the first time on friday. interviewed are for the first time and i was even more impressed and i had been from watching from far. do you think there's any chances were running out of time that they reversed this decision. >> i i think we should predict i won't put words in your i think they're going to reverse this decision. >> well, they're announcing it tomorrow and i don't think they'll do it then she would be an alternate and there could be injuries. in fact, one of the guards is injured, right now and that could be tuition. to keep an eye on because you're right. there's such an outcry and i don't think usa basketball i know for a fact, having interviewed these people, they had no idea the national outrage that they were going to unleash. there's outrage, and that is i can tell.
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[laughter] >> ainsley: seasonal allergies, right, steve? plus, supermodel nomani campbell message for young women skipping motherhood over economic. it will change her mind. as a study finds more trump supporters than biden supporters say marriage and children should be a priority. >> steve: look at that speaking of parents. this sunday's is father's day. we have the top of the line ideas for kids. >> ainsley: what is that? >> steve: waterproof. >> lawrence: what a tease because we are all interested. the second hour of "fox & friends" starts right now. and remember, mornings are better with friends. >> brian: get dressed. >> lawrence: make sure you are already dressed. so president biden hosting an early juneteenth celebration at the white house yesterday as his support among black voters continues to go down. >> brian: now one polling guru is suggesting that joe biden should drop out of the presidential race with less than five months to election day? >> steve: peter doocy just back from france joins us from washington. peter? >> good morning. and the president came back to the white house last night after a few days in france and a few days in delaware to host an early juneteenth celebration there on the south lawn. we have got some video of it. i don't remember ever seeing president biden try to dance on camera. last night was not going to be the night. did he briefly address the crowd on the south lawn though who accuse republicans of trying to take away black americans' right to vote. trying to do anything to reverse this trend. he has shed 7% of his black voter support since october of 2020. trump has gained in that time 9%. things are bleak with young voters, too. so now we have got this headline from the wrap. snl and parks and recreation writers pitch ads to help biden reach gen z and young millennials. these ads are going to come out next month in july. and the organizer is claiming in this interview that it's not your average celebrity endorsement. rather they are creating content with millennial and gen z writers for millennial and gen z voters. at the same time, the pollster, nate silber is warning, biden just hit a new all-time low in approval. 37.4% at 5:38 yesterday. dropping out would be a big risk. but there is some threshold below which continuing to run is a bigger risk. are we there yet? i don't know but it's more than fair to ask. we have no indication president biden is planning to drop out. is he going to go talk about gun safety before heading out to europe italy where the talk will turn, last week to russia v. ukraine. back to you. >> brian: peter, i was pretty stunned to say how much jill biden's trips back and forth across the oceans. >> ainsley: how expensive they were? >> brian: $345,000 it's cost taxpayers. >> peter: sounds like the dnc is going to reimburse the cost of some first class tickets. >> brian: that's like a few thousand dollars. >> ainsley: remember, peter, you told the story and you said how much is this going to cost the taxpayer? >> peter: you are welcome taxpayers for getting reimbursement for first class tickets. >> steve: nate silver, they should have liivesd to me in february. he should have dropped out last year. nobody at the white house or at the campaign saying okay we're going to lay low and just before the convention is he going to drop out. nobody is suggesting that he is going to say, you know what? i had a good year. so long. >> peter: no. there was a lot of talk about different prominent democrats months ago putting themselves in a position if biden decide he had he was going to bow out. that is all done. they are all systems go with biden at the top of the ticket and harris has the vice president and honing for the best. >> lawrence: peter, i'm hoping can you put this into context. when you look at the numbers he is under water when it comes to young voters, obviously losing support amongst minority voters. and voters point to the economy. they say all of this is impacting them. they can't get a house and all that stuff. the white house already has some of the best hollywood people to produce their messaging and all of that. is it the position of the white house that people just don't understand the story of the administration? that they have actually done more and if they could just get these producers to make these little ads that they will understand more? i mean, i'm just not understanding. >> peter: it is, lawrence, a lot of people you talk to at the white house or a lot of people from delaware have been say for a couple months now well, a lot of voters are just not paying attention, they are not as plugged into politics as we are, but, at some point, it's too late. at some point people do have to start paying attention because we are like two and a half months away from people forming opinions and then applying for ballots to get sent to their house. and so, it's -- the time for people to start paying attention is coming up quickly. >> steve: peter, here's date. june 14th, 2017. you were supposed to go to the congressional baseball practice that day over in virginia but you had an assignment and you couldn't make it. and now you have got a special on fox nation called strike zone, right? peter peters yeah, we have spent a couple months on this new project. >> this is the first time we are talking about it. nobody has done in the seven years since this congressional baseball practice shooting, nobody has done a documentary about it. and so, with the whole team at fox nation, we put together a three-part series and they are all -- my wife and i watched it last night. it was her birthday. this is what we did for her birthday. it is gripping the way that the story has been put together. we talked to the heroes of that day. we talked to some of the victims. and we were actually able to, with the input from the people who were at the shooting, including officer david bailey, who was one of the officers engaging with the gunman, we were able to go back to the baseball field with permits and recreate the shooting to give you an idea. >> steve: with real guns. >> peter: with real guns. they were out there just a couple days ago. the finished product it looks more like something you would see in a trailer for bad boys than in a trailer for something about a congressional baseball practice. but, it really shows how violent this action was. and we -- can you stream the whole thing now on fox nation. we also, for the first time on camera. took steve scalise back to second base on that practice field where he almost lost his life. and to hear him tell the story right there at second base is one of the most moving experiences that i have had in 15 years of doing different assignments. so, please do go watch it on fox nation. any time now. but start during the break. [laughter] >> peter: all right. >> ainsley: that sounds fascinating. i can't believe it's been seven years. we were all together reporting on that. >> steve: live on the couch. >> ainsley: yeah, we were. thank you, peter. he has a great wife who is also in the business and on her birthday they are watching peter on tv. >> lawrence: that's awesome. >> steve: honey, i have got a special get to see the fox nation three part series one day early. happy birthday, hillary by the way. >> secret recording by a liberal filmmaker captures samuel alito and john roberts discussing whether they believe compromise between the left and the right is possible. >> brian: wow. look at this. brooke singman is here with more. >> brooke: this is a wild story. this liberal documentary filmmaker who lied and represented herself as a religious conservative to get into the supreme court historical society's annual dinner last week secretly recorded a conversation with justice samuel alito and chief justice john roberts discussing the current political climate in america. so in the audio obtained exclusively by rolling stone, justifiable alito is heard questioning whether compromise between the left and the right is even possible. he said one side or the other is going to win. adding there can be a way of working, a way of living together peacefully but it's difficult, you know, because there are differences on fundamental things that really can't be compromised. the filmmaker justified her decision to intentionally mislead the justices telling rolling stone that she did it because, quote: the supreme court is shrouded in secrecy and they are refusing to submit to any accountability in the face of overwhelming evidence of serious ethics breaches. meanwhile when pressed by the filmmaker chief justice roberts says the polarization in today's society is nothing new. citing high tensions during wars of the past. however roberts' focus might be elsewhere right now as senate democrats are currently debating whether or not to subpoena him in the fight over judicial ethics reform. at the moment, democrats seem to be divided on the strategy of issuing a subpoena as they acknowledge it's unclear whether they can even get majority support in the senate judiciary committee. guys? >> steve: all right, brooke. thank you very much. >> brian: there is all out attack on the supreme court justice. the flag controversy. what is justin thomas doing on vacation? what is justice alito think when being surreptitiously recorded. >> lawrence: that recording didn't even get anything. >> brian: didn't get much. >> lawrence: no one disagrees with the statements. >> steve: john roberts disagreed with what she said. >> ainsley: said he wasn't able to compromise her. some things you can't compromise. steve. >> lawrence: even if the statement is true nothing wrong with that statement. >> ainsley: we have ha h. a lot of the people. >> brian: they are attacking them. >> ainsley: what about her credibility as a journalist. if she lied to get into this event. >> steve: it looks like she had an agenda. it looked like she was trying to get that she got it. it was revealed. i'm kind of curious about the circumstances. >> lawrence: they want to destroy the court. >> steve: meanwhile, talk a little bit about this. you know there is going to be an elections, first tuesday in november. and, you know, look at the polls. we were talking about them a little while ago. right now donald trump is leading in the swing states. and that is causing a number of people on the political left to say my hair is on fire. and their hair is on fire. because they are terrified that donald trump would be returned to the white house and there could be some revenge as well. >> ainsley: here is rachel maddow talking about her concerns if donald trump is elected. >> steve: she said this, is a quote. >> ainsley: i'm worried about the country broadly. if we put someone in power who is openly avowing that he plans to build camps to hold millions of people, and to root out what he describes in subhuman terms, as his enemy from within. what convinces you that these massive camps he's planning are only for migrants? so, yes, i'm worried about me. but, only as much as i'm worried about all of us. >> steve: going to the camp? >> brian: andy mccabe, the fbi guy who was caught putting together a master plan to have this russia hoax put forward. >> lawrence: lisa page, peter strzok. ains. >> brian: he said the same thing. chris matthews said the same thing. i watched over the weekend the president was asked by sean hannity, dr. phil in another interview, do you plan on revenge for all the lawfare that has been put out on you. he said i'm going to be too busy. you can't blame me if i did and people are mad because i didn't last time with hillary. took the second half he said and put a montage and said the president is out for revenge, why? because they are out to stop the president. they are not out to cover an election. they are out to stop donald trump. >> lawrence: it's so ironic that the people that has attacked -- not only the president of the united states, but all of his supporters, whether you are talking about donald trump or just mothers expressing some concern about their kids going after school board moms that are upset with the system, to then say they're going to be targeted, also, the former president has also said, ainsley, that part of his goggle is to make sure that no one else gets targeted. >> ainsley: where were they when this was happening to donald trump the weapons of our government, our justice system? they all loved that they loved that they were seeking revenge against donald trump, just for having properties in new york. they were running -- some of our elected officials here were run obligor then issue that i will take down donald trump. that's the weaponization of government. that's what they fear if trump gets elected? >> brian: that's why james carville came out and said the lawfare is not working here's what trump actually said. >> >> sean: on those that want people to believe that you want retribution. that you will use the system of justice to go after your political opponents. >> number one they are wrong it. has to stop. otherwise, we won't have a country. look, when this election is over, based on what they've done, i would have every right to go after them and it's easy because it's joe biden and you see all the criminality all of the money going into the family and him. all of this money from china from russia. from ukraine. >> lawrence: you know, i think it's important. because it's been a quick four years. but, remember where we were four years ago when this came to the campaign back and forth. and you had the 40-plus intelligence former officials come out and say -- 50, right? it was russian disinformation the hunter biden laptop. and now right now four years later almost, we are in a court of law where they are using that same laptop and the judge has said that it's actually legitimate and not only that. the fbi knew that it was legitimate. but, because it's a campaign, all bets are off. let's scare the american people, let's use people with fancy titles, a part of the community. to say weaponize against and then donald trump can't even suggest? maybe we should undo some of these agents. that's what they are worried about. maybe break up. so agencies. maybe root out the political corruption. it's not like there is proof or anything that they have attacked the former president while he was president of the united states they said they weren't going to take the orders from him. read the goat from rachel maddow worried about a camp. not just people on tv. a.o.c. a congresswoman from here in new york she is worried that apparently trump will arrest her because she has been a big, you know, anti-trump person through the last. >> lawrence: so ridiculous. one day maddow is afraid of the former president as if he went after one day during the first four years. it's not like we don't have a record to see of the guy they said this the last time he was going to go after the political opponents go. after the journalists. last time i checked it was barack obama's administration spied on journalist spied on our own people at fox news. there is no reports about that. >> brian: all right. well, we'll see what happens. i just know this, 62% of the country is in favor of rounding up illegal immigrants into camps and sending them back. and that's margaret brennan of face the nation. still can't get her jaw off the ground. >> steve: she was shocked. it is 7:16 in new york city. carley has the news. >> carley: unbelievable scene unfolded. chaotic anti-israel protests rocking new york city. [chanting] >> carley: that's activists chanting long live intifada. victims of the nova music festival murdered by hamas on october 7th. protesters set off flares chanted anti-israel slogans. demonstrators could be seen carrying around a banner that said long live october 7th if you can believe it. maize praising the mass killing left bide hamas left over 1200 israelis dead. at least 120 hostages are still in the hands of hamas. a young missionary couple ongoing unrest in haiti have been laid to rest in home state of missouri. their parents joined us earlier on "fox & friends first." >> all about sharing the love of christ with others. and just helping those that are in need. and they did that during their time there in haiti. >> it's truly beautiful to see what they did there and how much they loved the culture and the people. >> it is a dark place, but, you know, i believe that the darkest places need the light. and that's why davey and natalie were there. >> davey and natalie lloyd were married just two years ago. they had spent the majority of the last few years of their life devoted to god and serving others. an arrest has been made in northern china after four americans were stabbed in a park over the weekend. chinese police say a 55-year-old man is in custody for attacking four instructors from iowa's cornell college on sunday. >> the victims are now recovering. their conditions are not known at this time. this just in former president trump's legal team is filing a new motion to dismiss the classified documents indictment. this move comes as house democrats launch a group to respond to a possible second trump term. california congressman jared huffman is helping lead the effort. he said, quote. this stuff is going to be coming at us at light speed. and we are on our heels and reacting to it. we could lose our democracy according to that congressman. florida governor ron desantis is raising teacher pay. the governor announced 1.55 -- $25 billion in new education funding yesterday. while also take swipe at the state's teacher's union. salaries for teachers would increase f 40,000 per year to 47,000 per year. across the country and around the world. that's the one thing you hear about florida they don't pay their teachers a lot. >> ainsley: in florida. they used to now. >> brian: they just gave them a raise. >> steve: thank you, carley. apparently the teacher's union is talking about how carley is number 50 when it comes to teacher pay. >> ainsley: then i think it changed to 16 now. >> steve: 16th in the country. >> ainsley: 16th in the country. >> steve: i just saw what the teacher's union had said and they said that -- says florida is 50th in u.s. overall in teacher's pay and teacher short damage. >> brian: maybe after this increase. >> ainsley: we were talking about it before the show. you and i were on that with the producers say making them number 16 in the country. lawrence lawrence i just wonder for all the criticism of ron desantis, this is something that he has done and the teachers union, they have not been friendly to him. >> steve: no. >> brian: but you know, why, right? school choice. >> lawrence: 100 percent. >> steve: and books. >> lawrence: will they give him credit for signing this bill into law to give them the increases that he needs. so at least is he fighting the culture war as well as taking care of the teachers as well. >> ainsley: my mom was that teacher for 33 years. my sister is a school teacher in south carolina. i'm all for this. they don't make the amount of money for the amount of work they put into it. >> steve: they do not. >> brian: i agree. >> steve: speaking of children naomi campbell has two children at home now. >> ainsley: her first one at 50 years old. >> steve: they were born by a surrogate. she talks in the london times now about, you know, i don't think she saw it coming. how much of an impact and how her life changed. she says, my children are my 110% priority. and she loves parenting. and she worries that a number of younger women who are not having children right now because of economy or for some other issue, they are going to some day regret not having a kid. >> ainsley: i know. she said i have heard a lot of young girls saying that it's too goive have children. they may not want them. and i have said you will change your mind. you will want to be a mom. i understand economically it's tough. but my mom, she is from england, had nothing. and she made it work. it's worth it. it is so amazing. i agree with her. i understand for women out there a lot of single moms, some people making decisions whether they want to raise a child by themselves. if you decide to be a parent, it is the greatest joy. jesus christ, i tell my daughter all the time, getting saved, knowing jesus christ was most important day of my life. my number two day was on november 6th, 2015. the moment that doctor put her in my arms, it changes your life forever. there is nothing sweeter, nothing better. everything you do is for someone else now. you come to work for someone else. it teaches you to be selfless, and it is such a joy. when she walks in that room. i light up. when your children walk in the room, when yours do, there's nothing better. >> brian: i will find out how much they like me on sunday on father's day. i will look at value that i get back and i will find out what i mean to them. >> ainsley: you love being a father you talk about it all the time. >> steve: brian, do you think they are going to be recycling that scottevest. >> brian: scottevest that guy got outed big time. remember? the leaked audio of him putting downtown fox viewers. attention family, no scottevest. i got enough pockets. >> lawrence: i will just say as the only one on the couch without children, i do think there is a legitimate fear, especially if you grew up in a family that struggled of what the right time is. >> ainsley: right. i agree with that. >> lawrence: we could do better job elders lived through some things to educate. we look at our parents and say they struggled and we don't want our kids to struggle the same way we grew up struggling. i think naomi was trying to do that of trying to say hey, you can make it. i know it's not the glamorizing thing but just put back a little bit more. you will be able to do this. i think my generation that's a lot of what we think of. >> ainsley: did i change my mind. i was probably like 34 when i said okay, i have done the career thing for so long. i definitely want to. >> lawrence: ainsley you are saying there is still time for you to change your mind l.j. >> ainsley: you will be a parent. you will be a great dad. >> brian: naomi campbell was married to david bow j y.? 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[chanting] >> deliberate berated for hour and 10 minutes yesterday when they began resuming here. prosecutors began closing telling jurors there is overwhelming evidence against hunter biden. they accused him of using drugs, lying about it on a federal form to buy a gun and illegally owning and possessing that weapon for 11 days in october of 2018. i don't think this guy is a juror. [man shouting] >> rich: referring directly to biden family. jill biden saying people in the gallery are not evidence. nobody is above the law. prosecutors highlighted testimony from hunter's exs detailing drug use and recapped messages. the defense basically says that the prosecution's case depends on, quote, a magic trick of relying on evidence of past. when he bought that gun. no photos or proof that he was doing so in october of 2018. brian, we will throw it back to you. >> brian: thanks so much, rich. i appreciate it. i know there is screaming behind you but nothing can rattle you. that's tremendous. awesome job. >> rich: not at all. >> brian: got it. let's move ahead. president biden is gearing up for a meeting g 7 in italy later this week to talk on the continued support for ukraine. and as a european union continues to count votes for parliament, get this, right wing parties have made significant ground across the continent, in countries like france. in countries like germany. and elsewhere. taking over a third of the country's seats. here to react, iowa senator joni ernst, senator, it's pretty stunning, i was just jotting this down before the segment. snap elections. right wing make huge progress with france and germany and other nations. what's the message they are trying to send? >> as you see in europe you will see that in the united states as well, brian. you see the folks in europe really pushing back against a lot of the migration that has happened. many of these countries just opened their doors to migrants that were sweeping across europe. we see that same thing here in the united states with an open southern border. the folks in those countries are so tired. their own government can't support their own people now they are expected to support migrants. we see that in the united states of america, you also see this huge push for green energy to bow to the idol of green climate ideas. of course, people are tired of that as well. you will see that here in the united states, too. with all of the regulation that president biden has been shoving down our throats. and just as we have seen in europe, i can expect that we will see that in november here as well. >> brian: i don't know if it applies but perhaps it does. remember in 2015 brexit happened and they bucked everything and england broke away. one year later donald trump happened. >> right. >> brian: that bucked tradition, too. it made the establishment extremely upset. we know at this point that it looks like france has about half of support of the le pen party. which is right wing. don't love how cozy they are with russia. but the right wing conservatives and in germany it looks like the socialist party took a beating, too. let's move on and talk about what is happening here. earlier we talked about in politico, the first story, talks about how wall street is lining up behind former president donald trump, big numbers. and then you cecil con valley huge $12 million raised for former president trump and does that play into where they think the economy is right now? >> absolutely it does, brian. you would not see wall street executives lining up to support the former president unless they knew go back, compare the four years of the administration under donald trump and how well our economy was doing then. compare that to today under joe biden. his administration has put so many regulations out there. the impacted to business over $400 billion worth of costs to businesses in new regulations. that's just with joe biden. small businesses are being strangled out of the marketplace because of these regulations. under donald trump, we saw a thriving economy. we can expect to see that again. people are really anxious for the november election. they are even more anxious for january of 2025 when donald j. trump is our next president. >> brian: the president is going to be addressing business leaders on thursday so that's going to be big. joe biden was invited but he has got to be in italy. >> oh well donald trump will have a captive audience. >> brian: absolutely, he answers questions. and he does other thing of listening to what the problem is. >> exactly. >> brian: senator, thank you so much. >> thank you, brian. >> brian: hundreds of migrants crossing after joe biden's so-called crackdown with one even saying he loves president biden. a live report, next. ♪ this looks like an actual farm. it looks cute on the app. [farm animal sounds] ♪ meanwhile, at a vrbo... when other vacation rentals aren't what they're cracked up to be, try one where you know what you'll get. i'm not a doctor. i'm not even in a doctor's office. i'm standing on the streets talking to real people about their heart. how's your heart? 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>> biden, i love biden. >> why do you love him? >> biden helped us. >> griff: caribbean illegal crossers not so lucky. the u.s. coast guard says they returned a combined 305 migrants to the bahamas and haiti on sunday and monday. this was all a part of operation vigilant century where they are trying to crack down on merit me illegal crossings. >> lawrence: how could they hate him at least on that side of the border. griff, thanks so much for joining the program. >> griff: thank you. >> lawrence: los angeles is set to open what could be the world's fanciest homeless shelter and it's costing taxpayers. the 19-story apartment complex in skid row cost $165 million to build or almost $600,000 per unit. joining us is one taxpayer in l.a. business owner paul gentleman van know. paul, everyone wants to help the homeless get them off the st street. doesn't seem like a money issue. what is your thoughts about this program. >> it certainly isn't -- good morning, lawrence. it certainly isn't a money issue. this building is being built being built through what is known as measure h, which was -- it's maybe 6 years old now which was a bond measure to raise $3.75 billion over 10 years city hhh and counter measure h. another $3.75 billion half a percent sales tax increase in the county. combined $7.5 billion over 10 years and if do you that math, that's $2 million a day for 10 years. and that's just those two measures. maxine waters is in congress right now and i don't have the members but she has got two resolutions pimping for $150 billion for homeless and $100 billion for housing for five major cities around the country, los angeles, san francisco, denver, you know, so on and so forth. it is not a money issue. it's they -- i think what he are doing is artificially -- no what they are doing is artificially maintaining these monstrously high numbers to justify all this spending. but, it needs to be broken down because we don't have 100 -- if you use their numbers, we don't have 175,000 homeless people. we have, you know, thousands of homeless people, but we also have tens of thousands that are just drug tourists. we have tens of thousands who are not homeless. they have homes. they just don't like their parents anymore. so they come here and just live in a tent and live off the grid. the numbers -- you get to build $600,000, 900 square foot apartments because you have endless supply. you have endless supply of money because you have inflated numbers. and it's being being done [inaudible]. >> lawrence: paul, they keep taxing people like you. i have been down there. i have sat down with the homeless. i sat down on the beach and talked with them. i asked them where do you get the needles for the drugs in the government. give it to them on the street. where do you get the food in the government gives them the food. i asked them where do they get some of the enhanced drugs, the fentanyl and all that yeah, just a local supplier. they don't want to leave because there is really no incentive. so, we're praying for you guys. hopefully some things can turn around. >> lawrence, the biggest tax that they are taxing us is the effect on the streets. the effect on the retail scene. if it were a money issue, i'm happy -- like, i will buy buildings like that all day long as long as the locks are on the outside. >> lawrence: you guys have a big heart out there. unfortunately, at love the businesses there are shutting down because they just can't take the taxes anymore. paul, thanks so much for joining the program. >> thanks, lawrence. >> lawrence: so, father's day is right around the corner. and skip bedell is here with gifts that any dad would love. ♪ we just trying to catch a good time ♪ even if it takes all night ♪ pass that bottle around theedr camp fire-f ♪ig that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with all the money i saved i thought i'd buy stilts. hi honey. ahhh...ooh. look, no line at the hot dog stand. yes! only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty.♪ while i am a paid actor, and this is not a real company, there is no way to fake how upwork can help your business. upwork is half the cost of our old recruiter and they have top-tier talent and everything from pr to project management because this is how we work now. life's daily battles are not meant to be fought alone. - we're not powerless. so long as we don't lose sight of what's important. don't be afraid to seize that moment to talk to your friends. - cloud, you okay? 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moment hostages were rescued during a daring and deadly raid inside gaza. >> i get reaction from the us ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas-greenfiel d, chief standing by to join us lucidly, just minutes from now. and there's breaking news. the hunter biden case is now in the hands of a delaware jury the historic trial against the president since son potentially nearing an end as the panel waste three felony gun charges plus donald trump is taking the first step toward his sentencing. i'm 34 felony convictions. the former president, holding a virtual meeting with a probation official this afternoon, and that interview could be a key factor as judge juan merchan decides on potential punishments for trump welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, a urine the the situation room let's get straight to our top story tonight. the daring bloody israel kelly raid inside gaza, that operation successfully rescuing four hostages. but exacting a heavy toll on palestinian residents nearby the us ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas-greenfield, is standing by live will have a lot to discuss, but first, let's get all the latest developments from cnn's paula i hancocks in tel aviv new video from the israeli military shows the rescue of israeli hostages from central gaza. >> it says hundreds of personnel were involved in this rare daytime operation three hostages locked in an apartment in one multi-story residential building. another held in a flat 650 feet away in a densely populated neighborhood. models of the buildings were built weeks before to train in forces this is how israel's hostage rescue mission looked from the ground airstrikes explosions residents running to find safety. that doesn't have to exist in gaza hostages were flown by helicopter back to israel israel remains with family who had dreamed of this moment for eight months. families you only heard about the mission once their loved ones were safe. >> i haven't stopped smiling since my mug was returned to me, but the remaining hostages needed deal to get home safely there is a deal on the table we ask the israeli government to move forward with the deal the doctor who has treated the hostages since they arrived tells me, despite appearing in good condition, all for a malnourished or masses are extremely wasted. >> is damage to some other systems because of that, he says, they were moved frequently and beaten by their captors it was harsh, harsh experience with a lot of abuse almost every day, every hour both physical, mental, and other types and that is something that is beyond comprehension. dr. pessach also treated some of the hostages released in november and says the psychological damage of these four is significantly worse. >> all of them had faith but losing that faith. i think is where you get to the breaking point. and i'm happy that this guy because i hear but there are others losing the faith in us. >> and human kinds residents in nuiseirat central gaza are in a state of shock, struggling to deal with the aftermath of saturday, which neighboring countries and the eu's top diplomat have called a massacre i'm going to miss out this woman says, most of those trapped under the rubble of women and children. holmes's a filled with displaced people. israel committed a massacre the united nations security council passed a resolution votes this monday on a us proposal for a complete ceasefire in gaza. and the release of all remaining hostages. their work 14 votes in favor, zero against, and just one abstention from russia will follow. hancocks reporting from sylvia. thank you very much, sir. when i was in israel last november, i had a chance to meet with the family of almog meir, jan, one of the hostages just released by the idf i'll mugs a mother. all right. told me about the last time she spoke with their son as the hamas attack was underway. if you're me up and said to me, mom, they are rockets all over. >> and shooting. i don't know what happened. what is going? hey, non am i doing i'll call you every half an our mom, i love you i'm so happy. >> of course, but i'll mug is home now with his loved one, sadly almost father yossi die just hours before his son's return to israel, authorities found yossi meir unconscious. and they went to notify him of all mugs rescue. he was later declared dead. i want to send my deepest condolences to the mayor family as they grieve yossi is passing and welcome almog home joining me mydata discuss all of this and more of the new united nations and to discuss the du, united nations resolution on a gaza ceasefire and all the other top stories from the region, the us ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas greenfield, ambassador. thank you so much for taking a few moments to join us. as you know, this is the first-time the un security council has officially endorsed they ceasefire plan. why now, after eight months of war we have been working on this for eight months for eight months. we have pushed for efforts to achieve a ceasefire. this resolution brings us the closest to getting that done. then we're ever been. and we thought it was important that the council's speak in a unified voice on that. and the boat today's show that if 14th or nothing with one abstention, that would be russia, president biden says this ceasefire plan is israel's, but prime minister netanyahu hasn't publicly accepted it, neither has hamas president biden has said it's time for this war to end. >> what will this resolution ambassador do to get both sides? to accept this deal? that's currently on the table i think the resolution is actually the opportunity to pressure hamas to accept the deal. >> israel has accepted the deal. the president has said that and now all we need is to have hamas, this deal, release hostages that they are required to do in phase one and move forward on an extended ceasefire this is an important effort that was made with the support of the qatari government and the egyptian government working with us on the ground as you said, you say, the israeli government has accepted this deal. >> that's currently on the table. but does the israeli leader, prime minister netanyahu, need to accept it himself he's avoided that but i can't speak for prime minister netanyahu. i can only speak what the president has conveyed and he has conveyed competence in the israeli acceptance of this. still, what we need dallas hamas to accept the deal, they welcomed the resolution immediately after it was passed. they need to take the next step and accept the deal and start to release hostages. >> as you know, ambassador this weekend's israeli operation freed four israeli hostages, but came with a steep to, of at least 274 palestinians killed. that according to gaza officials. are you comfortable with that trade-off luck? >> i can't get into the numbers for me. >> a singles civilian, innocent civilian killed is way too many. but what we cannot ignore the fact that hamas hides behind civilians they were holding hostages in civilian areas. >> they are firing at idf from civilian areas. >> so it is hamas that should be held accountable for any actions that are taken that lead to civilian deaths. >> they don't care about their palestinian billions. as long as they continue to use civilians as, as cover. >> but does this level of carnage ambassador risk? isolating israel even more so out there on the world stage. and is the us risky? it's international credibility by letting israel operate in gaza virtually unchecked well, if our international reputation is very strong and we have worked very closely with our israeli allies. >> they are not operating unchecked. we're engaging with them on a regular basis. >> du we agree 100%, not always but we're working very, very closely with them. >> israel has a right to defend itself from a terrorist group whose main purpose in life is to ensure that israel does not exist and all jews are killed. so we have continued to support israel's right to defend itself against these terrorists. >> ambassador, have there been any conversations inside the biden administration to try to negotiate what's being described as a unilateral deal with hamas to free the remaining american hostages who are still being held but we're trying to get all hostages released every single one we care very much about the american hostages who are being held. but all hostages should be released for hostages released who were actually brought home on saturday is just one small group. all of them could be brought home if this deal gets accepted by hamas ambassador linda thomas-greenfield, thanks so much for joining us and just ahead, there's more breaking news. we're following donald trump just finishing his meeting with a probation official in new york. what we we know about what the former president it was likely asked and how his answers will factor into his sentencing next month. plus a 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there isn't an awful lot that is not known about donald trump his life and so on. but to gather the kind of background that they could put in their report that psr pre-sentencing report to the judge? so he can consider their findings about whether donald trump would be a better candidate to be sentenced to jail or prison, or whether he would be a better candidate for probation given his his crime. so they go into things like his personal life has financial background, education, family's situation ration, things like that. but it was a relatively short meetings. cnn's kristen holmes tells us that this meeting lasted not much longer than than half an hour and covered the basic information was uneventful. >> yeah, very interesting. only half an hour. interesting indeed, john miller, thank you very much. want to get some analysis? it's from our legal experts who are here with me in the situation room. at least adamson is with us former federal prosecutor, at least walk us through what you expect. actually happened during this half-hour meeting yeah. >> i think it's important to note that this was a psi that was conducted after a jury verdict. so when a defendant pleads guilty, i think you can expect these introduced to take longer because at that point, most defendants, but they've already accepted responsibility. they're going to show some remorse. they're going to explain why their actions are bad. they're going to use that time as advocacy to tell the judge probation through the judge threw probation, why they should be giving a more lenient sentence. i think it's not unexpected that today's interview was very short because the former president wants to maintain his fifth amendment right. he's going to appeal. he is going to maintain his innocence so i think today it was just simple questions. he was not going to go into the conviction. todd blanche was there with him, so he was just going to talk about his education, his his characteristics, how long he had lived in the state of new york, probably as residency in florida and just very basic background because really that's all he could safely share it's interesting, tim, because todd blanche's attorney was there with them coaching and presumably about this probation interview that was going on, how do you think trump is handling it? >> what do you think he's trying to do? >> well, i mean, he's obviously he's not happy about the conviction itself. and so i think that todd is trying to keep him on task of let's just talk about the issues here at hand and is released. just said when i have a case like this where it is a verdict after trial you would tell the probation officer, hey, don't ask him any questions. he's going to invoke his fifth amendment rights. so just stick to the history of biograph biographical information. so i think that the idea of donald trump being interviewed by a probation officer about where did you grow up tell us tell us your parents names and things like that i'm sure that he finds it somewhat direct, degrading, but it is the same thing that every criminal defendant in that courthouse go, sir yeah. >> that's an important point as well. judge. grass. so what do you make of the fact that this interview lasted what, a half an hour? >> well, i agree with what the other panelists said. >> we wouldn't really have expected donald trump to go on at length about a sense of accountability and the things he's learned from this type of a situation. i think it was pretty perfunctory i mean, if he wanted, he could have tried without it without admitting anything or accepting liability for the offenses that he's still going to appeal on. he could have tried to maybe couch and in terms of while i don't think i did anything wrong, maybe we could have done things better along the way. some sense of humility or something like that, because the bottom line is this probation officer, is going to be making a recommendation to the judge on sentencing. the probation officer could very well recommend jail or prison time in this case so theoretically, a defendant might try and appear contrite. i doubt that happen here just from what we've seen being in court every day and the general persona of this defendant. so putting all of that in context a half-hour is not surprising at all at least i didn't think today's interview that trump had with his probation official will impact judge varchar decision on july 11 to announce sentencing. yeah, i don't think it'll have that great of an impact these sentencing recommendations are meant to be persuasive. so i think judge merchan will take it into consideration. but once again, since this wasn't a very fulsome interview, the defendant wasn't sharing a lot of information that the judge will take into account. and then i also understand from new york legal expert tim, that the psr is in new york state are not as robust as they they are in the federal system, in the federal system, the probation officer does their own investigation. they colored their own understanding of the facts, and they use that as the basis of the recommendation. it's my understanding that that's not the same here. so given the relatively short duration of the interview and the fact that judge merchan presided over the entire jury trial and is very aware of the facts and the defendant and its behavior. i think while it might be helpful, i don't think it's going to impact his ultimate decision-making to trump's team is scheduled to submit its sentencing recommendation. is this coming thursday? what do you think they're going to ask where there are clear then asked for some type of a probation in this case. i mean i think that what they would be smart to do is to focus on not just this case, but the history of what donald trump has done in new york city, they should be talking more about what he did for woman skating rink, what he did for revitalizing the area around grand central terminal, all of the things that he did for the 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and pastor taking up three rows in court today have known the parameters you don't abandon your friends and family in closing arguments, prosecutors pointed to the gallery of supporters and said, those people are not evidence and reminded the jury that no one is above the law. the prosecution directly address the most difficult element they have to prove that hunter biden knowingly lied on a federal background check form when purchasing the gun at the center of this case, the defendant knew he used crack and was addicted to crack at the relevant time period, adding that hunter would have been aware from his time in rehab that he had a problem with drugs maybe if he had never gone to rehab, he could argue he didn't know. he was an addict at the end of his closing, prosecutor, leo wise circled back to testimony from hunters daughter, naomi, on friday, when she told the jury that when she returned or father's car to him on october 19, 2018, she did not see any the evidence of drugs, but why is reminded the jury hunter's former girlfriend, hallie biden, his brother, beau biden's widow, had testified that when she found the gun in the same car days later, she found it alongside drug paraphernalia defense attorney abbe lowell countered, warning jurors not to convict his client in properly adding it's time to end this case. he compared the trial to a magician's trick, trying to dupe the jury, saying, watch this hand pay no attention to the other one. he accused prosecutors of cherry picking evidence to present a more timeline of hunter's drug use and said his client was not lying when he marked down that he was not an addict on that federal form. lowell attacks, two of hunter's former girlfriends who both served as prosecution witnesses in this case. he noted zoe kestan took pictures of hunter with drugs, but not in the key month of october 2018. he also reminded the jury that hallie biden could not remember specific details about when she found the gun in hunter's car? and noted hunter was the one who told hallie to file a police report for the missing gun after she threw it out hunter did not take the stand to testify in his own defense in this case. a move that would have come with potential rewards and definite risks the jury will return to court here in wilmington tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. to resume their deliberations. >> but it's notable the prosecutors pointed to the first lady and other supporters who are there for hunter and reminded the jury that they don't matter, that suggests that perhaps the justice department is a little worried about that let's show of force for hunter and what it means for their case. but i was in court earlier today and watch the jury. they followed by line by line is the judge went through the instructions but they'll have to follow for this historic decision. wolf paula reid reported for us, paula. >> thank you very much. let's discuss what's going on with cnn, legal analysts. carrie cordero, and our senior political analyst, gloria borger carry lab. you start with you based on the closing arguments. what do you think are the best strongest points of each sayyed that they made? >> well, from the defense perspective, the biggest thing that they have going for them is that the prosecution, if it's going to prove its case, is doing so by info in other words, there does not seem to have been at the trial specific evidence of a witness or documents like a video, for example, in actual physical piece of evidence demonstrating that hunter biden was using drugs at the specific time. what there is is there's sort of tangential evidence of circumstances that would lead the jury to infer that he was using at the time. and so that's that's really what the what the defense will point to the prosecution on the other side is going to say, well, look at all these different circumstance dances. those all add up to a conclusion that he was using and therefore, he knowingly falsified the form. >> well, it was interesting, gloria, in reference to the biden family. yeah. the prosecution said during their closing arguments, they said this, i'm quoting people sitting in the gallery are not evidence. you may recognize them from the news, but respect thankfully, none of that matters. what do you make of the optics of the first lady, jill biden and other family members showing up almost on a daily basis. >> well, i think that the prosecution might be a little concerned that the jury would have a lot of sympathy for somebody with that kind of family support. >> don't forget a lot of members of the jury have gone through issues in their own lives with drug abuse and you have the first lady flying back from france to come sit at this trial. you have his children, you have his pastor you have friends, family. they took up three rows, i guess and that's something that jerry pays attention to. and so it helps in the portrait of hunter biden as not an evil, a drug addict. it portrays him as somebody deserving of your sympathy and your empathy. and i think that helps him think you're probably right. did you think it was the right move for hunter biden not to testify? he could have testified if he wanted to. his lawyers presumably said don't do it. but what do you think? >> i think that's right. i'm certainly any defendant has the right not to testify. and i think in this case, probably it would have opened the cross-examination would have open him up to delving into so many other areas that are potentially would have been counterproductive. so i think most defendants don't testify on around behalf, and i think in this case, it probably makes sense that he followed the advice of his defense counsel not to, you know, in an odd way though, you did hear from hunter biden because you heard from his book in which he audio books, his audio book. he wrote about this. he wrote about his drug addiction and that was used during the trial against him. but it was used. and so you don't voice you did here, right? and you did here? voice. so he didn't testify. but you did hear him talk about his addiction. >> you know, it's interesting. the president has vowed to accept the verdict, but is ruled out a pardon for his son very definitively, if he's convicted, though, how's this going to play out politically? >> you know, it's, it's really hard to say. >> i'm not sure that it plays out that much at all. what congress is worried about. its financial and propriety that may have been committed between joe biden and his son, and they've presented no evidence for that. if you notice, they've been a little quiet during this trial. and if a hunter biden is convicted, i think that there will be some sympathy for for joe biden and for the family and all of this. but i'm not sure that it plays out in a large political way other than the fact that it will affect joe biden himself. i think sure. it will gloria borger. thank you. carrie cordero. thanks to you as well. >> coming up. >> 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several factors. wolf, including what trump might have just said at that pre-sentencing interview tonight, we have new information on the many possible forms of punishment the judge more sean could impose on donald trump i just went through a rigged trial in new york now that donald trump has completed his pre-sentencing interview with a probation official, a report on the interview will be sent directly to judge juan merchan, who has a few options for sentencing. trump, the most serious one, prison time, the crimes for which trump's been convicted, falsifying business records could carry sentences of up to four years, each, with a maximum of 20 years. but realistically, it's unlikely that someone convicted of this type of felony in new york with no prior criminal history would see much if any, prison time trump's advanced age experts say would also be a factor in not sending him to prison he turns 78 this week. another sentencing option, probation analysts say, well, that might be a more realistic choice. it would come with a host of inconveniences and indignities for the former president have it be drug tested, having to check in with a probation officer, there could be random visits by probation officers to your home, not with a search warrant, but they can come knock on the door. you need to let them in. home confinement also might be part of a probation sentence for trump, or maybe a restriction on out-of-state travel. >> if he were going to fly off to another state wisconsin, arizona, he would have to get explicit permission from the probation agency. trump could simply be fine for his convictions or he could do community service where he has to pick up trash on the subways. experts say a conditional discharge could be a sentencing option is a condition of your discharger, your release and you have to abide by those conditions. the court will say, don't get arrested, going, don't get in trouble for the next year or during the pendency of your saenz or for stated period of time. and that's it. you're not checking in? no one's following up with you. there's no probation is no oversight all options, experts say reflective of the striking uniqueness of this situation for the probation department, this is uncharted waters. they have never interviewed someone of this statute before. they know that their work their recommendation is going to weigh heavily in the judgment and decision by judge merchan legal analysts say acceptance of responsibility is often a key factor when a judge considers a sentence. and the fact that donald trump has shown no remorse for the actions he's been convicted of, and has repeatedly publicly attack the judge and witness in this trial could bring him a stiffer sentence. wolf, july 11 is a big day. >> we'll see what happens on that day, brian. thank you very much coming up back to politics with donald trump out there and the virtual campaign trail today, speaking today to an anti-abortion group but what it's what he 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conservative base with inflammatory rhetoric about democrats and religion. >> listen to the former president address a group of christian political activists today we've done things that nobody thought were possible to have gotten done. you just can't vote democrat. they're against religion there, against your religion in particular, you cannot vote for democrats or let's get some more analysis now from republican strategist. >> sure. michael singleton and democratic strategists, maria cardona, she's a cnn political commentator what do you think should michael he was speaking to a group that calls for abortion in their words to be eradicated entirely. direct quote eradicated entirely without ever saying the word abortion. >> yeah, i'm familiar with the group. i understand why the former president's spoke before the group. this is obviously a very dicey and touchy topic for republic blinken's. on mature, maria will talk about, we have two years worth of electoral data that showcases, we just don't do well on the issue of reproductive rights with that said, in that clip, you showed a lot of evangelicals. we'll do believe the cultural behavior and customs of behavior in the country are changing particularly as it pertains to their religiosity and the religious views. and they sort of do want someone to be a protector or defender of those views, even if that person is the imperfect individual to do so, how do you think this is going to play with moderate voters out there? certainly that's a group that trump is trying to win over moderate voters, suburban women, for example, how's it going to play? not well at all. will fan this is where i think trump is trying to have it both ways. >> and while it's no question that christian groups, christian conservative groups, who are completely against abortion are going to support him because he is responsible for overturning roe v. >> wade and he brags about it every chance he gets, especially in front of these conservative groups. but then suburban women, moderate voters, and frankly, the vast majority of americans who believed that women should have the right to do what they feel is best for their own bodies and their families they don't support this. they think that roe v. wade should not have been overturned they believe that women should have this right. and they are going to continue to punish republicans and donald trump at the ballot box if they continue to push this massive goal of taking away women's rights and freedoms. and that's how the biden campaign's smartly is messaging this whole issue let's just get your thoughts, your mic alone. >> i have you vice president harris called out congress, republican congressman byron donalds for his controversial comments on jim crow. during an interview with politico. that's first watch what he said. listen to this during jim crow. >> go back family wants to get during black not just conservative, by who always a pink conservative library more black people voted conservatively vice president harris responded to that by saying this and i'm quoting her now. >> it's sadly at another example of somebody out of florida trying to erase or rewrite our true history i went to florida last july to call out what they were trying to do to replace our history with lies. and apparently there's a never-ending flow of that coming out of that state. what are your thoughts on what he would this congressman were saying? congressman jim crow. the jim crow era. >> yeah, i've watched several interviews wolf with the congress and i'm going to take him at his word that his intent was not to romanticize the jim crow era. this is a black man i'm really going to presume that he's very aware of our history. and in this country, i hope that isn't but, but i do think the point that there are some areas within our community that we as a collective group have to focus more on. i wouldn't disagree with with that should we do some things? a strengthened a family? absolutely. can you do that through the policy realm? i think so, but i do think as you talk about the past, you do have to be careful not to have the appearance that you're romanticized and something that was very horrible for the black community. i have grandparents that are still alive who went through segregation. my grandmother was the first to enter into her high school in new orleans and first-time desegregating the school. and so i think there are people that are still among us who have those very real and raw my experiences. and i would hope that republicans, whether they're black, white, or anyone else for that matter, would be sensitive to the experience of those individuals who are still among us that's interesting on another subject, trump is launching what he's calling a latino americans for trump campaign to reach out to hispanic voters. >> what do you think? >> noise when a wolf whole issue of wanting to launch a program called latino americans for trump a couple of days after he brings onstage in arizona sheriff joe are pio, who has the most racist, the most xenophobic v, most anti-immigrant current sheriff, i think ever at least in modern history. and for donald trump to bring him on stage and hug him, and kiss him is he hiring him to be the head of latino americans? for tropics? that's what it looks like. >> and it is just indicative of how empty and how wrong-headed and misguided donald trump's focuses when he talked it's about latinos in this country and that i think just gives the biden campaign more ammunition to make the contrast between a 34 times convicted felon who is the most racist and the most xenophobic president we've had ever versus president biden, who has had record job creation in the latino community. record business growth in the latino community, and they have a record with which they can make that contrast and that at the end of the day is going to win joe biden, the latino vote oh, sorry, maria. sure. michael, to both. out 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on the stance at a key witness for the prosecution, detailing the alleged scheme to trade favors for influence soon as jason carroll is joining us from outside the courthouse right now, jason update our viewers. >> in another dramatic day of testimony yeah. >> more testimony coming from jose uribe. this is the man who's already pleaded guilty to bribery charges. now cooperating with the prosecution and today we'll he gave more details about specific conversations he has. he says he had with senator menendez directly related to bribery. he spoke about one in particular, a dinner in 2019 at il bellagio restaurant in new jersey. he says, i get to ask again for the first time and explain what is worrying me so much. i asked him if anything in his power to stop an investigation. i'll explain about that in a moment. menendez is answer he would look into it. of course, you rebate was worried about these criminal investigations going on in new jersey wolf that could have implicated people that he was close to. so he told jurors what he did was he paid nadine menendez $15,000 so she could buy a brand new mercedes in exchange for the the senators influence. he then talks about another meeting at nadine menendez, his home, where he says he wrote down the names of people who were possibly implicated in this designation, put it on a piece of paper. he said senator menendez folded up the piece of paper, put it in his pocket, then in october of 2019, he says he got a call from senator menendez. he told jurors that he felt as though this situation had been resolved and he choked up. juror he choked up wolf as he was speaking about what had happened saying that this situation had been over, and he felt he was at peace then there was this
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>> ainsley: it cost $345,000 for her to go back and forth and dnc is saying they will cover the cost. we asked peter about it, they will cover the cost of a couple tickets. >> steve: probably one first class ticket. if intent was to influence the jury, they will not be needed today. the president is leaving tonight or tomorrow for the g-7. they will be close so they can go back to court if the word comes down. >> lawrence: when they pay for the flight back and forth, is that a legal expense or campaign contribution? >> steve: probably campaign. >> lawrence: is it part of the election, how do you label these things? >> brian: juneteenth coming up thursday? >> ainsley: next wednesday -- next. >> brian: yesterday at the white house was time to celebrate, great roster of fantastic acts evidently, people looking at this shot and saying is the president freezing? is he frozen? is he okay in this or just refusing to sway with the music? >> steve: remember when you were a kid and played that game where you come up and say freeze and everybody else around you would move and you have to freeze. looks like he is playing that game right there. he moved a little bit. >> lawrence: or guy with lack of rhythm. it wouldn't be a problem if he did not lie and say he was part of the black church and he marched in the civil rights movement. that is all we do as a culture. someone hanging with the culture, you even have kamala, she does not have to lie or cackle. >> ainsley: if you don't have rhythm, you can clap. everyone can clap. >> brian: he was also brought up in a puerto rican church. he should sway, not sit still. that is all we got, no one in catholic church has any idea if we have rhythm or not. >> lawrence: he's a catholic part of all this culture. raised and marched. >> brian: it is a great way to go. >> steve: when he was not dancing, standing there, freeze, he was at the lect your honor and reminding those at the early celebration of juneteenth, i'm doing a really good job for all of you and the other party -- did not mention political opponents by name, they want to take you back. watch this. >> president biden: let's be clear, they're all ghosts in new g garments trying to take you back, make it harder for black people to vote or have your vote counted, closing doors of opportunity, attacking, diversity, equity and collusion. about our present and future. >> brian: run on dei. that is popular in america. number two, what part is he talking about going back, taking us back? southern democrats separated and they were for jim crow and they are the ones that called themselves the kkk, not sure if he will be happy with where his party was. >> lawrence: whole celebration of juneteenth was donald trump's idea, he proposed the idea and joe biden lift said it and made it a national holiday. it is a fear tactic and they have been doing this nonsense ever since the bronx rally. look at numbers now, black people are leaving the demo democratic party, leaving the party and has nothing to do with race. it is one thing, the economy. it is one thing, the border and fact you decided to take schools away in black neighborhoods, shut down senior facilities and put illegals there. instead of focusing on issues, they plan to use a fear campaign not to talk to white voters, but to tell black folks, stay in your lane right where you are. better not shift your vote, if you do, donald trump is worst thing for you. don't forget tax credits, it is racial politics and to fear people and to -- >> brian: talk about georgia. >> lawrence: which was a lie. >> brian: senator warnock won again. he should apologize for his comment jim crow 2.0. >> lawrence: and all that revenue for the all-star game, the all-star game pulled out. business owners said, what are you doing? you are hurting campaigns, it benefited the party. >> ainsley: one-fourth of the black community is now voting for donald trump. almost 80% voted for biden and now 72% say they will vote for biden. the pollster nate silver is suggesting because of biden's low numbers and ashes proval rating 37.4% is cause for joe biden to jump out of the race. >> steve: in february, nate silver was saying democrats should think about substituting for the quarterback. yesterday he came back and post said on x, former ly twitter, h said democrats would have been better served if biden would have decided not to seek a second term and give voters a say across the democrats across the country. essentially bring in a new horse. he continued and joe biden hit all-time low in approval, dropping out would be a big risk. there is threshold below which continuing to run is a bigger risk. are we there yet? i don't know. it is more than fair to ask. you have one guy who is smartest big data guy in the world saying it could be too late for him. >> lawrence: if you are the president, you can't feel good about this. the convention is two months away, i think. people are still suggesting maybe he shouldn't be on the ticket, almost convention time. >> brian: where do you go? it is kamala harris. governor whitmore will say, kamala, step back, governor shapiro? no. if you put her top of the ticket, numbers look worse, unless sonia sotomayors, i'm going to retire and they say kamala, would you go to the supreme court. >> ainsley: don't even say that. you said all staffers don't want to lose their jobs and telling him to stay and run. >> steve: in a safe space. nobody saying, the numbers stink. he knows numbers are bad, he thinks and we've been talking about this a long time, we heard last march what the plan was. joe biden may not be great, he is not donald trump. >> ainsley: beat him before. look at virginia. >> brian: one big advantage is money and that gap is closing rapidly, president got 12 million -- >> ainsley: president trump. >> brian: in silicon valley and story in politico talks how wall street is lining up behind him. and point bridge capital is in. blackrock labeled insurrection following trump, an asffront to democratic values is in, castleman and eric levine, gop fundraiser treasury official is in, shawn mcguire is in. he is getting wall street andic taking a piece of silicon valley. a lot of guys are citing court cases, civil and legal case because they are business people and you don't want to weaponize government to go after people's success. >> steve: what he did last night trying to court the black community and hemorrhaging young voters. you mentioned virginia, bellwether state for virginia, in latest poll, it's a tie, battleground state. >> brian: three straight polls. >> steve: 48%. governor youngkin said last night with sean hannity, anything can happen. >> sean: that is what polls are showing like georgia and pennsylvania and wisconsin, michigan, nevada and arizona, those battleground states are seeing same kind of statement that virginia is making. they want a strong america. an america that has economic strength, not biden generated economy that unleashed inflation. >> lawrence: as we get closer, the partisan divide was deeply emotional. the closer we get to election, only emotion that matters and their paycheck every two weeks, they are looking and don't have enough. they are going to the grand jury store. >> brian: i think security, too. i look at the border and foreign policy, 38% approval rating on foreign policy. >> lawrence: i agree, it was border at one point, closer to election, economy is number one issue. >> steve: to your point in our big packet of stuff, there was survey done by intuit credit karma and 27% of americans admit they occasionally skip meals because they cannot afford it, 30% sacrifice other things to buy crashes, other things are paying bills or rent because of cost of food. >> brian: hot water in a bag, if you are skipping a meal. i think this is country style chicken pot pie, come by my office today, skipping a meal in a bag. tells me where to cut it open, too. boil water, dinner is coming your way. >> ainsley: it is eza. we have machines right outside your office, put a cup of hot water. >> brian: and have friends and family over. >> ainsley: meal in a bag. >> brian: i'm boiling the water, call your relatives. >> lawrence: i will toss to carley. >> carley: i always wanted to eat chicken pot pie in a bag. >> brian: you are invited, bring your own bag. >> carley: chaotic scene, p protest rocking new york city, watch this. [indiscernible chanting] >> carley: they are upon chants long live intifada. protesters set off flairs and chanted anti-israel slogans and demonstrators were carrying a banner that said long live october 7. praising the mas killings which left 1200 israelis dead. 120 hostages are still in the hands of hamas. hundred for two migrants who beat and mugged outside a four-star hotel. how to combat that significant uptick in crime. >> there was a shooting where a migrant shot two police officers trying to keep us safe, who were tailing him because he was a suspect in several robberies. now they shoot at our police officers. >> carley: the migrants are believed to be staying at nearby hotel shelters. terribles in california rescuing a kite surfer after a pilot spotted the word help in the sand. first responder was lowered down and the surfer was hoisted to safety. the surfer did not need medical attention. uconn head coach dan hurley is staying in connecticut after turning down $70 million from the lakers. he will look to lead huskies to a national championship, saying, i am humbled by this experience, i am proud of the championship culture we have built at connecticut. speaking of basketball, wnba star caitlin clark fouled hard as fever faced the suns last night. the connecticut player bumped clark. clark and chicago sky star angela reese have been in the spotlight. sales are up over last season. actress courtney cox recreating her iconic appearance in bruce springsteen's music video. it is part of trend where people ask their moms how they danced in the '80s. she wore a shirt similar to what she wore. she said it was one of the most importance of her career. >> brian: i thought it was spontaneous. >> ainsley: she looks amazing, she has not aged. >> carley: she is gorgeous and i hope my son does not ask how i dance. >> lawrence: how did you dance, brian? >> steve: dancing ymca. >> brian: no, no. cal mcginnis >> carley: he stays on one letter. >> lawrence: like biden. >> brian: i don't freeze, tomorrow i will be in dallas, klif is carrying the radio show. i will talk to people of texas, find out what dallas thinks what is happening in america and the border and food in a bag. >> steve: snyder plaza is just across from smu. >> brian: right where the bush museum is. >> lawrence: tell my people i said hello, texas, dallas. >> ainsley: go to the diner so he is not out by himself. >> steve: i will send sally. >> brian: i need help dressing casual, untucked shirt. >> lawrence: show your muscles. >> ainsley: gingham. >> lawrence: wear cowboy boots. >> brian: if we don't tease soon -- >> steve: real photos of children are being used to power ai. >> ainsley: who official and leading ai expert jamie metsel says this is tip of the i'm going berg. >> brian: and he has a brand new book. only purple's gel flex grid passes the raw egg test. no other mattress cradles your body and simultaneously supports your spine. memory foam doesn't come close. get your best sleep guaranteed right now! save up to $400. visit purple.com or a store near you. 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which one can we see first? >> the euro, our first time at fox sports covering this event. it feels like a mini world cup. you have england, germany, spain, italy, all the big players and tournaments. the teams in this big tournament and that's what we're excited. you think about renaldo, his last international tournament. and france and then messi. fox sports we talked about the big teams and stars on display every summer. an opportunity even for the united states this summer in the copa america to show what they've got. >> brian: who comes in favored and who do you pick to emerge? >> euros, france, england. from an england perspective is it coming home being able to win a trophy? they're very good. incredible talent and confidence. france, also the last stand when it comes to renaldo and portugal. the big teams and stars and then a couple days later we roll right into copa america. u.s. hosting this tournament that in normal times is for south america but u.s. is hosting it and everybody is coming and argentina and brazil. messi in his new neighborhood here in the united states, or vinny junior when it comes to brazil. >> brian: u.s. against boll ive yeah. they're getting respect internationally, right? 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a.j. way billings, montana. i thought we were supposed to swim away from the shark. noim awaw we have to punch the . which one is it now? you punch first, then you swim y away. i'm telling you, an expert told me that's the wa.y to get out alive. >> scott from oceanside, california if biden refuses to leave the white house, it will be because he can't find his warefusey. maybe >> maybe he doesn't know he loses. k. fainiaom chester, virgini biden will be at the beach. it's jill who won't leav will bh the white house. >> oh, jill. drte house. biden. excuse me. that's all for tonight. dvr the show. hannity is up next. >> and always remember, i'm waters and this is my world. and i woke up to. >> hannity and tonight, here- are six words in the english language that every democrat they love, lov englie to recites quote, no one is above the law. no"nw if you turn on fake news, cnn media and see you're going to hear that phrase a lot, but only when you're talking about trump or other republican k abs when someone on the left commits a crime. that'ss a crim a very differents for example, over the weekend, you had riotertoryexample,s drep as islamic extremists vandalizing historic monuments ,let's say assaulting law enforcement, hurling projectileumentss at a park rand >> no consequences. lookrits they were trying to han an insurrection. there were no arrests, fines, n no dramatic pleas on the left for anyone to be held accountabldramatic lefe. we'll have a full report and more video of this repotnd's disgusting riol with a message for thoseose wh who are mad at israel for and quite heroically freeing four hostages in gaza. and another message for fake news, cnn, which seem to think that the israeli hostages were simplyh released, know they wee rescued. but first, we turn our attentio.wen to some of the most shameless and morally corrupt people it n america.ld that would be the bidens, many in the mob, the media. they love to point. oute to that hunter biden's ongoing trial is an exampl oute that a biden can face justice. but in reality, hunter's is but a perfect example of the t will goour governmen to allegedly to protect the son of a prominent democrat.know a now, according to the very real contents hunter's very real laptop, the president's son engaged a life of crime for many years. the evidence seems transparentai ,overwhelming, but you decide it was on a massive scale. remember the fallout of the 20 2051 intel experts signing a off on a letter claiming the laptop had all the p s of russiandisi disinformation. this after three years of liesni being peddled over and over again, the russia hoax by the mediover agaa mob, all of it a , all of it based on a dirty dossier. lying the dossier becomes the basis of lying to face the courtss for four separate times, three of tir honored by mr. highe himself, james comey. in reality, the so-called expert.s were spreading disinformation. all they knew about the laptop was nothinformatioaboug. wan they only knew they wanted joe biden to win. you think they'd apologize . don't hold your breath. now that the laptop is official evidence at hunter's gun trial.s well, fox news digital reached n inteto theew all 51 intel expers who signed on to the letter and most had no regrets at alld whatsoever. they gotno what they wanted. they helped joe biden get the election in 2020. some even claiming that it was the patrioti.c thing to do.c thn a means to an end. anyway, of course, joe biden b is now president. the evidence of the alleged wrongdoing. on that laptop is shocking. you have rampant drug use, hundreds of thousandsan of dollars seemingly. i can't say for sure spent soliciting, purported tax evasion on millions of dollars in income that needs to be investigatedthat n, refusing tox file tax returns in certain years along with the possibility should be investigated. money laundering. the possibility of fara violations tietied td his own f. many americans can rightly sympathize. sure many, with hunter's addictions and personal struggles, but not the millionsaddi of millions of millions made with businesses in whichitcheric he admits he had zero experience at all. or all the shady actions of hisn father's department of justice, whicish is politicized and weaponized. according to the "new york times", the doj prosecutor that's tasked with investigating hunter, this guy, david weiss, remember he's going to sweep the whole thing planned under the rug. no charges at all.ll after purposely the statute of limitations run out on some of the most seriouoms tax chargs from the burisma years. plan a well got ruined by two brave irs whistleblowers on,k tt two plan b, that was the sweetheart plea deal that looped a temporary gun charge and with a few minor tax violations. no jail time. sadly, plan b was ruineduse because. the judge actually read the plea deal and started askingread t real questions aboe totally, completely abd nature of the deal. and now we're on to plan c. welli we pla, years of investig. let's make this guy the special prosecutor. let'vestigat guy thes go into ad in delaware in a courthouse there, and hope foe inr the.s the jury has officially beguns their deliberations. you know, any outcome won't surprise me, including an outright acquittal cquittal or a hungg jury jury. but they'll decide if hunter is guilty on the three felony charges. count one accuses hunter of lyingthree felolous hun on an and purchasing a gun, swearing that he was not addicted to drugs. count two accuses hunter of lying to the gun dealer. count three alleges that hunter illegally possessed the guned t while addicted to drugs or actively using drugsdr . t the evidence seems to me overwhelming based on evidence from the trial ased o. r one day after buying the gun, hunter texted his girlfriend hue he was waiting for his dealer. the next day, hunter textedcrac his girlfriend, he's smoking crack. so let's be cleaso be clear. hs these allegations are not a joke. sou biden, his fellow democrat ,don't they love to lecture you about gun control? fac in fact, president biden is now proposing tighter regulationents surrounding lawful gun ownership and steep penaltiesars for anyone who dares to step out of line. ou son on trial. but gun crimes. but if this is the only trial the hunter faces, this will only prove that biden's, s as we have been telling you, is politicized and weaponized. the judge instructed the jury to ignore hunter's ties to thee first family. but let's be clear. only because of those ties that hunter now is only facing gun charges in the biden friendly venue of delaware. he's not getting the donaldp go trump treatment like trump got in new york with a valuation of mar a lago at a mere $18 million in a case that involved, well, valuations the judge in that civil trial was more guilty of valuationaudn fraud than anything they accused donald trump of. and then, of coursg th e, have the case of alvin bragg. misdemeanor statute t of limitations expired upcharge it to a felony electioa felonyng but don't even tell trump what you're charging him with. you , more importantly, about the bidens. , oligarchs.ign oh why did they pay hunter biden millions of millionsing to of dollars, according to the johnson grassley senate report. johnwhat services was he capable of providing if he was admittedly addicted to drugs at the time? now, if he was lobbyingf on behalhef of a foreign entity, why didn't he register r with fara? isn't that required by law?re and why did hunter and the entire biden family use over 20 shell corporationes, according to the house oversight committee? were those accounts used actually used to funnel foreign funds to different members of the familtow y? hmm. interesting questions. right. did the big gu y benefit from hunter's foreign deals in any way? according to the laptop, that apparently is very real. all ths very re guy had 10% pute for him and hunter complainedst- bitterly about giving half his income to pops and complained about, paying for pops as home repairs. why did the big guy lie to you? every one of you watching this show about meeting with his son's business associates, remember, joe said overme eve and over, he never one time ever spoke to his son. brother, anybody about theses fo foreign business deals. devon archerre said he recallse bi joe biden calling into at least 20 meeting s with and theses fore foreign business partners. and what about burismasiness, the ukrainian energy giant? hunter admits no experience in oil, gas, coal, ukraine when he goes on good morning the america, but then gets paid millions to sit on that company's board d. and th and then joe, you might recall, braggeencalld about leveragings a billion of your dollars to get the ukrainiantoe ukrain m investigating this company and his son firepahis son d, brt getting it all done within 6 hours. the resultt gettin of that firig hunter continues to get paid four zero experience. never mind the chinese energy conglomerate cfc. we'll save that for another day. as you can tak see, hunter's gue trial is really just the tip of the iceberg. frankl of they, i would call itw hanging fruit when it comes to hunter and just below the surfac e. y pict it's not a pretty picture. make no mistake, when a family can ostracizuran no miste ize tn five-year-old granddaughter and ignore her until shamed by maureen dowd at the "new york times" and then neverl even follow up to talk to helor meet with her, include her. it's pretty safe to assume the worst. but of course, everyone, including hunter, they were innocenthunt until proven guilty in a court of law. right. so tonight, we continuighte a to await the verdict out of delaware. not exactly an unfriendly venuen for biden. here with reaction, we have fox news contributorn. e on jonathan turley john. and let's get your take on the case as an outside observer following it as closely as you. i felt the evidence was you', incontrovertible. i thought i actually was well, i actually was pretty impressed with the prosecution in this casey impres in, the case that t eventually did put on, but only because they were forcedy we to. >> well, the prosecution did an admirable job. i mean they were right on it. v they had a very tight case. what was most impressivede is that abbe lowell, the defense counsefense l, put p a series of defensese that collapsed within two days. the prosecutor just methodically. s method destroyed all of these claims. and in a normal case, that jury would have been out for an hour, come back with a conviction. i mean, this is very obviouslyss an offense that was committed, but that's not what the realffee is. >> i mean, these as implausible as these arguments are, they're really placeholders. >> the defense playing to a delaware jury. this is biden town. thisware jurden town is wilming this is where the home of thefay biden family resides. and i think they're hoping for a jury nullification.. and to add to that i s a certain degree of sympathy for someone who had a tragic fightso w with with drug addiction. >> so we'll see what happens tomorrowlltomorr. ment there's no question in my view that the government stuck the landing here. they prove the case. the question is whether they cane the caestion get the y to consider the evidence and not justt wh who the defendt is. >> what do you think the most? and i thin>> youk, i do respect abby as an attorney. i think the one thing hunter does have goin e ong for him is abbe lowell. and i would argue there are noto many great attorneys in d.c., but he is a good attorney for sureat. ght >> and i thought he did as effective a job as he couldwe considering the hand that he was dealt, which was awful. with that said, do you think he was able to cast doubt in any area that sticks out in your mindha? >> no, no, i you know, the argument that was made by abby starting out was maybe brmeone else checked out box and they brought this mr. cleveland forward who just blew that out of the water and said, i stood there, watched him check that box and the otherg to boxes and told him to take his time, which he dids time. of then said, well, he was really sort of rushed into buy buyingin gun and cleveland saide no. he came in intendingnding to toy a gun. and then there was this ludicrous argument that hed thes sort of immaculate period of sobriety or, at least he was just drinking, not using drugs v . and the government destroyed it and showed a texent it the veryr day where he's trying to meet mookie to score more drugs.t and the day after that, sayingg that he's doing crack in a car.m and he had witnesses come forward to say that when they saw the crackayt , he doint every 20 minutes. so none of these thing livs survived within two days. >> but again, that's not to do with me unless i'm sure the prosecutor. i'm sorry, sylvester. i apologize. i thought you were finished. do a, you agree with me that theorta real important issues that people shouldntat be concernedriou about, then this is a serious ss issue that the crime aspect him and charging him here. but i think the more serious issues involve how much moneyy that this that hunter was heking without experience at a time he's addicted to drugs seemingly offering no services that we can identify as of now . no, that's exactly right. blewknow what's, amazing about this case is that it blew away their own defenser own desr that the media has been repeating for years. they've been suggesting that hunte r biden really was this incredibly competent in demand. businessman and international expert in his book and in this a trial, it's clear that he was addicted and having a very difficult time managing moste. basic parts of his life. >> but he was getting millions from these companies wasons. yeah.. all right. jonathan turley, professor, >>ank you for joinin g us. for now, fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett. harvard law professoing us, for alan dershowitz. >> professor, you're actually on a satellite tonight, as i, zo don't have you on your little zoom thing. it's great to see you a little bit more clearly. we'll start with you tonight. let's get your taker take on the case. do you agree with the last question i asked professor o and turley, which is about, you know, this is low hangingw, fruit as far as i'm concerned, considering the millions of millione s of dollars that they brought into this family at a time he's addicted to drugs and at, you know, with no experiencend, admittedl. in an interview on good morning america. look, the best thing that could possibly happet thinn to, donald trump, is if hunter biden gets acquitted because. en i the evidence against hunter biden is so much, so much more compellinh moreg. the legal issue is so much more compelling than anything against trump.t this >> and it will prove beyond any doubt that this is all about wherall abe the trial wasc conducted, that if you're trump and you tried in new yortehak, i it's automatic guilt. and if you're biden and you're triec guilif you'rd in delawarea different verdict. >> so the best thing that could possibly happen, trump, is the acquittal of biden. based on all of this evidence. c >> it would also be aa. good thing for the for america. it would it would uncover and disclose the horrible crimi double standard that our criminal justice system is going throughnaicstem i. maybe we could get some reform. maybe we can do something about it right now. our criminal justice system jug of the world.h and i feel just so horribleable about. it i've devoted six years of my life to trying to defend tars of and explain a legal system based on neutral principle is g that legal system is gone. the trump case destroyed destro. and if there were an acquittal in this case, at least it would expose it itt. now, there may be a conviction in this case because the evidence is so overwhelmingn that won't hurt donald trump. but if there were an acquittal, it would help donaldalt bu wer t trump enormously in the court of public opinion. pu that the acquievef new york verdict was justified. >> if there's an acquittal in this casen th, there's such a difference in terms of the venue, it seems. diff greg, that if you want equc justice and equal application of our lawatios and you want constitutional order, it's all going to depend on the venue.t l it's all going to depend on whether how politicizedprosec weaponized the prosecutor may be and how abusively biasede the judge can be. >> mm-hmm. a yeah, it blows a hole in thes notion constitu usually of an impartial jury. >> but here are the facts here.e so simple. the law is clear. the evidence of guilt overwhelmingthidence o the argut that hunter was in denial about is addiction. >> so that somehow forgives his lie. that is so. >> but look, if a hometown jury is already in your back pocket, then jonathan's right. sympathy and jury mightnotifi actually work. and it doesn't matteca r that jurors are not allowed to negate the law. they do it anyway sometimessecrc because secrecy them.pleaseions they could do as they please without consequence. having said that, prosecutors do have an advantage. ,they don't have to prove that hunter was high on drugs or addicted. ought the day bought the gunth only during the general timeframe, and that was proventt conclusively through text messages, photograph s, oo witnesses, his own words from the book he wrote. >> hunteotr, it turns out, was the best witness against hunter tohich is precisely why he chose not to testify. e been >> he would have beenly completely shredded on cross-examination shredcrossi >> all right. predictions. professor dershowitz essor de? well, i think the evidence a coo overwhelming there could be a conviction, but i wouldn't be surprised if we sawbut jury nullification. >> remember, jury nullification cuts both ways. what happenee saation.d in new n jury nullification. >> the jury found an innocen nev person who committed no crime whatsoever, guilty becauseerth of the judge's instruction. and because the prosecutor made up a case that was juryon nullification with the judge nullification. this very well be a casecase o of jury nullification as well. >>ry prediction. >> gregg jarrett well, this hase beenen a no nonsense honest judge, a federal judge hugeon difference between this judge and machine. s foll >> if the jurors follow theirth duty as theyey mus there will be a conviction. >> all right. i noll rightt know outcome, be t juilty verdict, acquittal, a hung jury. nothing will surprise me here, but we'll see. surall right. we >> thank you all.co appreciate it. when we come back, thingsmes ar are so i mean, so bad for democrats. you've got prominent democrats, even a prominent election forecaster are floatinge id the idea that biden should drop out of the rac e. >> our friend james carville is losing his mind. arm e go, out the latest on him and much more as hannity continuears. i try to put my arm around any event that i 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about.abou. i actually was very publicgh that i thought that president biden should not run for reelectionsident not. but the lack of enthusiasm among young people for public policy, public service or being involved in the public squaren th is quite dishearteni. and i can understand that on one level, i may not talk term and a lot of things are nos art working for them, and i feel like the two guymean ms that dol mean much to him and i am really afraid that we're goingnl to lose a generation of young people. democrats use it losing their core coalition of party, young people, african-americans, hispanic-americans -. earlier today, election forecaster nate silver echoed comments saying democrats be would have been better off e would'if biden had stepped d . yesterday, the new york times even publishinyestg a piece lon highlighting biden's long list of bizarre lies, including his claim that he used to driveh an 18-wheeler, that he was the first in his family to go to collegeo . that is uncle. he was eaten by cannibals. he receiven byd appointment to e naval academy from his future senate fro. he got involved with the civil rights movement at the ageinvold of 15. e we know that's a lie. he was arrested on a front porch with aarrestt family durg desegregation at a local neighborhood and that he never earned $400,000 in a year. well, now, of course, the newco york timesursek of various points, they kind of downplay these blatant lies as hyperbole or exaggeration and ones. and those are the ones they included. that's all the tip of the iceber.e g. cause take a look at your screenwe because we're scrolling more that biden has told over the years. by the wayby the, the new york s you're very, very welcome to use our farst o more comprehensive list of joe biden lies. biden lies you ever decide to an your corrupt and abusive bias? h and by the way, you can eventhat give me attribution. youoh, and joe did partner with that friend of his that mentor of his. that's right. the former klansman, robert byrd, to stop bussing and the integration of publicf schools. remember, joey said he didn't want public school ramembs to become racial jungles. they might want to cover that, too. th mightand as biden struggles e to mount, trump is not slowingtl down at all. his vp search is allegedly in full swing. earcbiden's desperate electione year border crackdown is alreadyear wate failing as i continue to flood over the border, whic h sources nowh saying 10,000 were apprehended on thursday alons knuckle, fours the limit at which biden said procould stop processing claims. in other words, it was asylum all smoke and mirrors als, noteo real. here with reaction, harris poll chair mark pen. n, the host of tomi lahren, is fearless. there's no such thing as a fearful tomi lahren. anyway, on outkick. tomi lahren. tomi, let's get your take. it's a long list of people now. it's james carville. i won't speak for mark penn. let i'll let him speak for himself. but it's van jones. it's david axelrod. is maureen dowd, nate silver. norod,w joining the chorus?you you have been saying, do you still believe 140 days out,o you think they're going to replace biden? >> i absolutely believe they're going to replace biden. i believe it's going to happen either at the conventionen.is or shortly thereafter. i think the democrats are far to s oro strategic and they're far too used to winninger and they enjoyefor winning far t much to take a risk with joe biden. and i knowe bide they took a rik in 2020. but when we look back ate lo and the debates in 2020 and we look at when he was newly elected, he was in fahen her better shapa than he is now, and he was slipping then. son th h i don't think they cani possibly take that risk. i do believe they're going to swablwho belip out. tha i also think that when it comes to this first debate, we need to actually raise our expectations of joe, because us counting it as aiseui he's able to sit upright and complete his sentence is givino stepg him far too much credit because then he'll claim a victory just like he did aften her the state of the union because he was able to get through it in one piece. so we have tioo raiseo ra our expectations of biden. and we also have to put the onuse oude on the democrat a and not just the messenger, but the actual messagecrat a. d because if and when they do swap out biden, we have to be ready on the republican siden and we cannot be caught flat footed if they bring gavin newsom in anottedd he's a shiny new toy. we can't let that happen. we thas, egy of the democrat i don't think we got that.n: >> i think it's more likel i dot be whitmer if they have the ability to bypass vice b president. mark, can anybody really conclude anythinmark, g? smart democrats like yourself, you really don't want biden, do you? >> well, i think i'll i'll defer that one per se. but look, i didn't think he wasd goinidn'g to run. he decided to run. thesyou know what swept the democratic primaries? these are his delegatee hes. it's his convention. the idea that he's not going i to be the nominee i think is ara fantasy. i think the party is around hiri . i don't know why james said what he said. it's not really particularly'tyi oint. useful at this point. i'l the only thing i'll say is this the base. >> mark, you know why he saidid what he said? vengeance. a little riskyha. >> you know why he said it was. it's a sign that it's obvious this guy is a mumbling and bumbling, stumbling, bumbling. you know, he could barely sentences together. however, i do take tommy'swever, admonition really seriously. i think we'll see the return up of jacked up joe.wh whatever joe drankatev eight tak before the state of the union. maybe it was just red bull and caffeine pills. i don't know. whatever it was, that was note m the normal joe. we never saw it before and we haven't seen it since. but we will see it fornce. the. now, there are some even saying, mark, that donald jus trump might be wise to just pass on the first debate. wait till he's nominatede firs,n debate. >> and what would you say to thawhat wt? h oh, i'd say he accepted it. he it in the lion's den. ifif i were donald trump, i would have done some betterin negotiating here, but i don't think he can back ougt without really looking cowardly. and i think biden has, you know, said he's going to meet the challenge. i thinow, saidk it's big test wt he is whether you think he's jacked up or noher yot. dt if he can get through that debate, he'll lift his campaign. and if he can' theampaign ant, - that might actually be in some jeopardy. they might have actually, joe, might have done donald trump a favo mr and i say this affectionately, tommy, by insistingg that that when itm his turn to speak, that they mute his microphone becausk the think that was a mistake in the first debate in 2020. your reaction? >> well, i would hope with a i w lot of things foouldr that firsd debate. obviously, it's stacked against donald trump and we know that. but i thin agak donald trump han incredible opportunity in this first debate to act more presidentiaortunityirst den he's ever acted in his entire life. push everything on joe and joe' pushs agenda and his failed policies, which is the democrat failed and policies and agenda. de donald trump just sits back and he lets talk himself into a corner, then donald trump will win that first debate. he just has to restrain himself, which i believeave to he do i . pull it in, act t as presidentit and dignified as possible, n and he will win against joe biden and his failed policies. he simply can't stand on thosebn . >> and quite frankly, he can't stand at all. all right. t ask you this. if, in fact, joe, for whatever mark penn went out, tom is convinced mar it wouldt be gavin newsom. i'm not sure. i don't think it would be gavin. that's just my guess. i have no inside knowledgethat except that he told me over ove and over and over and over again when i interviewed himt do and in the debate with governor desantis, that he wouldn't do it. okayokay. so i think the most lk person, if it's notharris president harris, would be governor whitme wor whitmr. that's my take. people have floated the name jo michelle e obama. i don't think she's up to the. job myself. would be the most likelywh democrat? who would you pick if you had to choose somebody? >> well, again, you have to go through the history here. >> these delegates were nominated for this ticket. harris, i think would be the likely nominee if for some reason, any reasone hims joe biden had to remove himself, you could bet on thate as almost a certainty you think would be kamala harrisy feat. yes, absolutely. all right. is on well, bet the game's on.t i don't know what you guys want to. bet. but, you know, feel free, you know, off ai yr. when w thank you both. all right. when we come back. all right. foack ghr israeli hostages, thak god held by hamas terrorists october the seventh. they were rescued duringai what 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the fake jake tapper and dana bash really be objective or trusted? no, they're liberal talkir show hosts. they're not journalists, as they claim to be. alsoeral ot, vice president harris. oh, she mourned the palestinians, quote, tragicallyt ha killed duringn an the raid and call for an end to the war. playino thg, of course, to her extremist left-wing base which showed in full force thishi weekend in front of the white house and promptlyin fro started vandalizing monuments and lafayette square, reportedlyyette sq at police ant service and demanding the elimination of the state of israel. now, secret service agents, you know were told to kill themselves and there was a lot of f the police's release fromof some of these radicals. and by way, they were forced fro to retreat from the insane mob. anyway, herethe in reaction. r former senior aide to presidentr trump stephe sn miller. and from the lawfare project,pr brooke goldsteinoject is us. you know, the people that aresi responsible fobler the murder of 1200, brooke, the people that took all of these israelisi and americans hostage and israel bravely is risking lives to go saved is the liveseh of people. i argue that every death of every palestinian that blood is on the hand is of hamas, that that started this war, esea that killed these israelis. the worst terror attack in their history. and it's miraculous that they got thesn histor mire four host. and that would be called a rescue, not a release. >> your reaction? well, sean it's great to beo be here with you again tonight. and i want to say that you're ab are absolutely correct. under the laws of armed conflict , it is hamas, a terrorist group that is responsible for the death of civilians, both israeli civilians and palestiniaans bothaelin civ. but you have to ask yourself, knowing what is happeningwhat in this war right now, at what point under the laws of armer td conflict do you lose your civilian status? t wa because let us not forget that it wa00s over 2000 and gaza civilians that broke into israel on october the seventh. it was the gazan civilians along with hamas that tortured that that murdered that burned israeli civilian babies alive. it was gazan civilians that then took israeli civilianit gars as hosts that kept them, tortured them were paid by hamas to keep them, raise them as . at what point do you lose your civilian status, being a civilian is not an affirmative defense to murder civilians or r do murder other civilians. and you best be sureothers c tho matter what you call yourself, if you kidnap and murder israeli civilians, the idf will rightly hols thd accountabt >> and, you know, it's sort of like that that coastal elitist, you know, hollywood leftists, george clooney and his wife literally wanting bg bibi netanyahu to be brought up on war crimes as he's literally trying to defend his own country from radical islamic terrorists radic. al you know how people lack that moral clarity. stephen miller i will nevestepha for the life of me understanndd israel has the right to self-determination to defend their country from a group that has in their charter a call israel's destruction that would have been 40,0000 ded dead americans in a day based on their populationn. and then you have, you know, jack actors likegoing george clooney and his wife going after the prime prime mint for trying to preserve their country. really? well, you knowally, is your morl compass, mr. clooney. >> although mr. i'm being a bito too polite. here isn there isn't one, sean. there's no moral compasss no moe the radical left in this country has decided that it's on the side of hamas. it's as simple as that. hamas is a genocidal terroristte organizationrror. one of the most evil, vile, repugnant, repulsive organizations alive today, or any point in the history of humanity. they, as has been discussed, they , they butcher, wome murder, they tortur coue t enslave women and children, barbarians. but joe biden, us democrat parte --y is now playing fore pr the pro hamas vote in this this country. they're playing for whatever sliver of voters in this country they thinkslivft is sympathetic to hamas. now, that's morally to hs morall. but i would also sayi wo it's politically idiotichamas because for every pro-hamas site in this country thi, theres 20 voters, 30 voters who are as horrified and, as appalled te by the atrocities of hamas i e are on this panel tonight. i believe joe biden will pay a dearbeliev pay price for cozyp to that segment of thete us electorate. e >> this is one of the saddest moments in us histor u.sy that n did he abdicate america's rolee on the world stage as theus leader of the cause of libertyan and freedod freem but then he ao surrendered in the war against islamic terrorism by saying, we're not going to help israel defend against those people that attacked them on october 7th. you know, just just the perfect to raise money with george clooney and his wife. thanoney a his wifk you both.p t 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d.c. employees that were going to vote for the bureaucracrey. and it became that much more difficult of a state to win. to wiis this state in play forf donald trump? >> sean? it is i believe it is. and that's exactly what the polls are showing us. just like georgia and pennsylvania and wisconsin. michigan, nevada and arizona, those battlegrounda an states ae seeing the exact same kind of statement that virginians are make. and they want a strong america. they want an america that ha was economic strength, not the biden generated economy. no unleashed inflation. they want an america that has national security, not the indecisive, weak america that joe biden has created. they want an america that has a secure border, not one that has terrorist and illegal immigrants and fentanyl flowing over every day. i i mean, we see it in virginia. we literally have five virginians dying on average from fentanyl overdose. and we hadeinians d i two illegl immigrants crash the gates at quantico in a box truck recently. and they want an america that has energy . we are so tired. i can hear it every single day of being told that you have to buy. and even if you live e b in california, but not in virginia anymore because we declared our independenc ivirgir that in fact you and you have, 0 to pay 20, 30, 40% more for a gallon of gas because of the biden failed energy policy. they want trump back in the amei white house because he built a strong america. and that'sca exactly what we've seen in virginia over the course of the last couple of years , commonsense conservative policy works. we've unleashed a riunleashep ey in virginia, and i think they want to see it on a national level. yean thins, virginia is in play.in we got five months of hard work . but i'm telling you, when they put that when they put the records of president trump againss oft president bidi i believe that virginians and american ts are going to fid themselves pulling the lever for president trump. >> so when i was with presidentr trump last week and i did an asterview with himeseekend, youe came up and he asked me ifke i spoke to you off, and i said, well, occasionally you we you k, we have we have spoken. and you come on the show. , tell and he said, when you talk to him, tell him i'm going to give him a call goito g. i want to thoughts on virginia. so i would say expect the callmt from president trump. i don't know. i'm just a mere messenger. right. you know, what about northern virginia? because that alwayr.s scares me, because there are so many dark bureaucrats that live in the commonwealth of, virginia, that work in d.c. and how big ah percentage of the vote is that going to end up being for the commonwealthating the ? >> well, in order to win virginia like we did in 2021,e you have to lose northern virginia less badly. and what we did, of course, was wen the hispanic vote, we won the asian vote, we won oen the independendent vt vote. people are ready for change. and in 2021, they were readywe to see parents put back at the head of the table, controlof of control of their children's lives. they were tire t children'sd oft taking all of their hard earned money and putting it in government cofferrned mones,g in their pocket. they wanted a chance to build their livethey wands the way thd to build them and not being told what to do all the timeo . mandated masks and oh, by the way, mandate what kind of ca or. you drive. this is virginia. and of course, i think thithisv is america. and therefore, the plan to win virginiathan t is, of course, to lose northern virginia. less bad, but to get over 40% nt of the vote and then knock it out in the rest of the state. di and that's exactly what we did in 2021. and when you looand when youk am trump's strength across virginia, that's exactly what he ca' ginia thn. let me ask you a finalr fi question. if donald trump annald i knowou your name hasn't been out there prominently, but if donald trump called not you, asked you toun run with him, what would you say,m governor? well, well, first, i would be honored and humblede . he rep >> tell him that there is a ton of talent in the republican party today, everyw and i've seen them everywhere. and it's my job to finismyh winv my finish my time as governor and help him win virginia. irwhat tell you what.ha we've got to make sure weve t get donald trump back in the white house because donat withstand another four years of joe biden. is that a hard no, sean,r hear that that is that is a a realistic view of the fact that there s so much talentha that i think he can have a great choice and fin d lots of people i think i can ask this would be honored but indert understand. all righand. t governor, alwayswhen great to have you on the program. when we come back, the white w u house hold the juneteenth event tonight. they didn't go well for joe. straight aheadll o, the thinking is starting the writing clock. usa today, the wall street journal and entertainment weekly hailed the black 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following that bull. they said he was out to get to safe place. they initiated protocol. and i haven't timed the video, but i would say that they had him in less than 30 seconds roped and contained. >> todd: wow. >> they were amazing. >> todd: we got to run. will you bring your family back to the rodeo ever again? 5 seconds to you you, danielle. >> most definitely. not only the sisters rodeo every year but every other rodeo that is close. we are definite rodeo fans. >> todd: danielle smithers thank you for that video. the bull was named party bus. more like the bachelor party at the end of the night at the beginning. >> carley: not a busy would want to be on. >> todd: "fox & friends" begins right now. >> carley: have a good day, everybody. ♪ >> the sitcom begins. >> brian: sounds liked i should be walking -- and the kitchen et, hi, hone i'm home. it feels like that. go ahead, steve. i digress. >> steve: it's 6:0-:35. >> ainsley: 30 seconds until 6:01. >> steve: this is not a sitcom it's a news program. tuesday, june 11th my parents' anniversary, welcome aboard. president biden appearing to freeze up during a unity is jun. accusing republicans of disenfranchising voters. >> they are all ghosts in new garments trying to take us back. taking away your freedoms. making it harder for black people to vote. >> i don't think he has any rhythm. this as a feigned pollster say items should still consider dropping biden from the ticket. >> uber driver going viral for. >> lawrence: look at her. she has rhythm. >> ainsley: karaoke sing along. >> karaoke. >> lawrence: that woman can dance. ♪ ♪ >> brian: jimmy failla has a new idea to start his show. "fox & friends" starts right now. remember mornings are better with friends good morning, get dressed. >> steve: all right. in just a couple of hours. day two of deliberations are going to start in hunter biden's gun trial in delaware. >> brian: yep. the fate of the president's son could be decided as soon as today after federal prosecutors told them to ignore the first family's presence through the proceedings. >> ainsley: there were about a dozen of them in the courtroom. rich edson live in wilmington outside the courtroom. what can we expect today, rich? will we get a decision? >> we very well could. jurors are back at it 9:00 a.m. judge mary ellen neighbor can a will deliberations will resume. they deliberated yesterday about one hour and 10 minutes after hearing an hour of clo close arguments. using drugs lying about it on a federal form and legally owning and possessing that weapon for 11 days all in october of 2018. they led off their presentation referring directly to the biden family members in the courtroom including the first lady saying people sitting in the gallery are not evidence and that nobody is above the law. prosecutors highlighted his ex-girlfriend zoe kestan and high hallie biden's drug use. reviewed text messages he sent hallie days after buying that gun claiming he was meeting a gun dealer and smoking crack. watched hunter testify fill out that federal form and check no to the question about being a drug user. ababe magic trickrelying on paso prove hunter was using drugs when he bought that gun. there are no photos of him using drugs in december of 2018 or testimony at this trial of witnesses actually observing hunter use drugs then. as for those texts in the week that hunter bought the gun, claiming he was meeting a dealer and smoking crack. lowell said hunter had lied to hale biden before about where he was. if hunter is convicted. he faces $757,000 in fine and 20 years in prison. that's the max he would though be a first time nonviolent offender if he is convicted. back to you. >> steve: so, rich, the conventional wisdom if there is a verdict today, a quick verdict, that would probably not be so good for hunter. but, if it dration on there could be one or two or a couple of jury members who are going -- i got some doubts. >> yeah. absolutely. if this happens quickly. and this is just reading the tea leaves here how things have gone before. if the jury comes back very quickly and says hey, we have a decision. probably a bad signal for hunter biden. if this drags out, as you said, steve, they have a handful of jurors i don't know about this, i don't know about that. really all they need is one is to not go along in this hung jury. >> you are the one outside. keep us posted rich edson live in wilmington, thank you very much. >> lawrence: it's going to be interesting. if the verdict comes back today and hunter biden is now a convicted felon, if the president continues to use the rhetoric on the campaign trail. as we know he says hunter biden is the smartest guy that he knows. if his son is now a convicted felon is this something that he still uses on the campaign trail. >> steve: about trump? >> lawrence: about donald trump. i think he will probably limit it if hunter biden is convicted. >> steve: but, you know, it's a great point, lawrence, he has kind of limited it so far. maybe is he telegraphing it. i'm not going to say it about donald trump i will let my other people do the talking like that. >> brian: i will ad something else about that. when they talk about a convicted felon. that's going to come up in the debated, i guess, perhaps, when he brings that up. also, i think the best thing to happen for president trump would be for this hometown jury to exonerate this guy and say oh, is he just an addict and the problem is, too, it could have been so much worse. >> ainsley: are they going to do that for everybody else that does the same thing and breaks the law. >> brian: everybody there knows the bidens. >> ainsley: he made the decision to do the drugs. if he lied about doing drugs on a drug form that's illegal. it doesn't matter whose son he is he decided not to testify. there were a bunch of biden family members inside the courtroom which could sway the jury. they might see all of his relatives. the first lady and say oh, gosh, they are powerful people. i'm i'm not going to -- >> brian: the prosecutor to your point, ainsley, addressed that in the closing yesterday and said that the people that are in the crowd is not a body of evidence. essentially telling to the jury, listen, follow the facts as they -- i don't care who is in the courtroom. you should ignore that. >> ainsley: none of that matters he says. >> brian: almost like a script writer. you literally have the texts of him doing drugs, the name of the drug dealer and location is he giving it. almost as if he wants to be caught. might be great psychologists dr. phil should sit down and look at this because he seems to be so resentful of his family and the pressure on his shoulders. next thing you know the laptop is out there. in it is everything the family has been up to. the denials the family went through. the flipping to now all of a sudden understanding everyone understands it is real. and then waiting long enough that his foreign agent the charges of him being unregistered foreign agent the fara charges evaporate. those are the real things. nobody wants him on the gun charge. they wanted to find out why was paul manafort in solitary confinement when you are doing the same thing, worse, on a multiple of countries? >> ainsley: maybe he was high when he was writing those text messages. think about we don't do drugs, we have had glasses of wine, maybe you are overserved a little bit too much. you say something to someone that you regret the next day. then can you understand how that could happen. maybe when he is texting people, talking about his dealer and he is sitting in the car smoking crack, he might have been high. >> brian: perfect punctuation for a crack guy. better than mine and i'm not on crack. right? >> steve: that is true. i have seen some of your text messages. >> brian: my dashes and my commas? >> steve: ultimately, the bigger issue here is this law that he is accused of breaking is to make sure that people who are not addicts or addicted to drugs get guns. that's really what is all with . the prosecution proved yesterday they said that he did. leo weiss, the prosecutor said if this evidence didn't establish that hunter biden was a crack addict and unlawful user then no one else is a crack addict. >> ainsley: gun laws. >> lawrence: interesting thing happened at the white house. juneteenth musical festival yesterday at the white house. and the president was there. and many people that were observing it -- can you go to twitter and see it. they think that the president froze during that moment. i think that the president just has no rhythm. and is not a part of it. >> steve: that's what mike lee the senator says. >> lawrence: i agree with the senator. the reason why this is important is because if know joe biden. he always says it was a part of the black church. he marched through the civil rights. >> naacp. >> joined the naacp very early limit for someone that has been around black people his entire life, been in the church dancing with him and everything. he has no rhythm at all and i don't know but, but the white people there that i grew up. ate at the dinner table that went to church with us. they can dance just as good as we could. >> can you clap. anybody can clap. >> brian: lawrence, don't overstate it. don't overstate white people. >> got it wrong though. white people i grew up with could keep up with you. >> steve: the president is certainly motionless kirk franklin. >> brian: maybe so much. >> steve: they celebrated last night. they observed juneteenth early. but it did give the administration the chance to talk a little bit -- and joe biden never mentioned his political opponents by name. but you could tell who he was talking about. listen to this from the president last night. >> clear, they are all ghosts in garments trying to take us back. they are. taking away your freedoms, making it harder for black people to vote. i will have your vote counted. closing doors of opportunity. attacking the values of diversity, equity and inclusion. it's about our present and our future. it's whether that future is a future all of us, not just for some of us. >> brian: dei down # 4% among corporate america. it's not republicans. by the way, if you want to go back into the past. and that's what he is inferring or implying, i think it's democrats that put on the hoods and were kkk. i think it was democrats that wanted separate but equal. wanted segregation. do you want to keep hearkening back to when your party was confused about equality for all was all about and why he keeps going back to a time in a country that he runs to paint such a brutal scenario as if it were premandela south africa is beyond me. >> steve: he wants to -- look, it's a political season, he wants to say hey, i'm protecting you, donald trump is going to take your rights away. that's one of the reasons why the vice president was there she ticked off the administration's accomplishments. she went on and on. tapped the first female black supreme court justice. signed the gun law. the white house issued a fact sheet outlining measures to protect black history all at the hands of joe biden. >> brian: republicans are looking to take it away. >> ainsley: look at the polls though, they are about one fourth of black voters are liking trump. >> his poll numbers have dropped among black voters. >> steve: biden's? >> ainsley: 79%. now 72%. polling guru nate silver who runs 538. is he suggesting that biden's latest approvallor disapproval ratings might be cause for him to get out of the race. i don't know, but it's more than fair to ask this. so, the approval rating for joe biden is now 37.4%. >> steve: posted two things on x. he said, first of all, what, clear my opinion is that democrats would have been better served if biden had decided a year ago not to seek a second term which would have allowed he them to have some semblance of a primary process and give voters a say among many democrats across the country it. continues, biden just hit a new all time low. 38. dropping out would be a big risk but there is some threshold below which continuing to run is a bigger threat -- risk are we there yet? i don't know. it's more than fair to ask. keep in mind, nate silver back in february, we talked about it on the couch. actually couch in the other room, said, you know what? his numbers stink. and they would be smart, the democrats would be to find somebody else. >> lawrence: it's important to realize who joe biden is talking to when he makes inflammatory comments like that. he is not talking to democrats at large. is he not even talking to republicans. he is talking to the black and hispanic voters that are shifting to the other direction. and he is saying don't you move. he is saying if you're thinking about going for donald trump, forget about the economic success. forget about where you may stand on the issues. you cannot move. and i need to remind you of the fear campaign for years and years that we have done as a democratic party. and so this is not a president that wants to be inspirational. this is not a president that wants to say that you do better. is he not even a president that says that i'm pushing you forward as a community. i need to remind you that the republican -- brian, you laid out the history in great way. but he said dismiss that don't worry about the history. you need to understand that the republicans wanted to put you in chains and if you vote for them. >> brian: you ain't black. >> lawrence: you ain't a part of the community. >> brian: he said you ain't black. >> lawrence: he said it on the campaign trail last time don't you dare move. i predicted this. >> ainsley: lawrence says last i checked, yes i am. >> lawrence: bingo. i predicted. this ever since the bronx rally if you pay attention to the democrats. the heat is turning up because you have been seeing the crowds and you have been seeing these diverse faces. and it's freaking the democrats out. if they -- if they get half of what the polling is suggesting in the next election, republicans, then it's over for the democrats. so they need them. and so they can't talk about the issues. they have to run on fear, brian. >> brian: yeah, i think it's so you irresponsible to the leader of the country to talk as if america is 1972 or 1958. run on the country. inspirational message what you will do. barack obama, anyone was going to say president obama. he didn't have that message. wasn't he the vice president during that time? >> steve: sure. >> lawrence: in his defense he could have forgotten what year we are in. >> brian: the speech writer didn't because more morehouse and charlamagne tha god,. >> ainsley: might be white or hispanic saying they're trying to take us back, excuse me, trump is trying to take us back. that's just not true. the black community knows that is so wrong, correct? >> steve: ultimately, what they are trying to do it's an election year, going back to where we started, he, joe biden is in trouble with a number of his core item gratification. that's one of the reasons right now they are freaking out at the white house that across the river from the white house is the commonwealth of virginia. right now, the latest poll we showed it's neck and neck between donald trump and joe biden. i think they are tied at 48 or 49%. >> brian: three straight polls. >> steve: 48% right there. joe biden won that pretty reliably blue state by 10 points four years ago. glenn youngkin, the current governor was on with sean hannity last night and said, you know what? this state is up for grabs. >> i believe it is. and that's exactly what the polls are showing us. just like georgia and pennsylvania and wisconsin, michigan, nevada and arizona. those battle ground states are seeing the exact same kind of statement that virginians are making. they want a strong america. they want an america that has economic strength. not the biden-generated economy that's unleashed inflation. >> brian: new hampshire same thing. i haven't seen a poll in minnesota. but if minnesota is also in play? my goodness you are talking about 40 states that could be going into the former president's column. i just saw a fascinating story on politico. the lead story how wall street is now coming to the president. silicon valley over the weekend, you saw what happened. >> lawrence: huge event. >> brian: david sacks came out and said i expected 45 million ended up with 12 million. john cass that meets blackstone steven shoultsman. port bridge capital. ackman, ken griffin from citadel all saying in the past i had a problem after january 6th. i voting for desantis. i supported desantis. i'm. in part of it is these court cases. they see the way the businessman is being secured and on manufactured charges. >> ainsley: and inflation and how that is affecting their bottom line, too. president trump is meeting with 200 ceos on thursday for a round table discussion about his business plan and how you will be better off with my economy versus joe biden's. >> lawrence: do you know what i worry, about though, ainsley, when you look at the polling and see minority voters. see the business community. you see republicans uniting behind the president, we still got a long way until the election. and so i worry with the polling data being where it is and everyone being on fire. that some people may stay at home. i just think it's important as the president and the former president campaigns because the republicans already have a problem with he shallly voting and mail-in ballots as well. and to the former president's credit. he is telling republicans now that they need to use all measures -- all tools of voting. but you don't want your side to get too excited and to say well, it looks like it's in the bag. i'm going to stay at home. i worry about that. >> brian: the national poll has been a dead heat, one or two points, all in the margin of error. july 11th will be the biggest day. >> ainsley: 4 #-49. >> steve: how the white house is enlisting hollywood to try to get those kids interested and where are they going to advertise? tiktok. >> brian: robert deniro doesn't seem angry. >> ainsley: their pac is called i have it on here somewhere. what is the name of their pac? it's won't back down. liberal grirts park and liberation and snl. >> steve: we won't back down. 20 minutes after the hour. >> brian: what do you mean. >> ainsley: i will share them. turning now to your headlines beginning with chaotic anti-israel protests in new york city. [sho [chanting] >> ainsley: honoring victims of the nova music festival murdered by hamas october 7th. protesters set off flares and set off anti-israel slogans. elsewhere in the city could be seen carrying around a banner saying long live october 7th. can you believe that? praising the mass killings committed by hamas. which left over 1200 israelis dead. at least 120 hostages are still in the hands of hamas. house republicans release never before seen footage from januar. appearing to show former house speaker nancy pelosi make a stunning admission on camera. >> why weren't the national guard there to begin with? >> they thought they had sufficient -- >> -- yeah not a question if they have -- they don't know. they clearly didn't know and i take responsibility for not having them just prepare for war. >> lawrence: wow, huge. >> ainsley: remember they requested. and they requested and denied. >> brian: she takes responsibility. >> ainsley: pelosi seemingly taking responsibility for the failed response in the clip from three years ago but the down playing those remarks. >> the fact is that the president of the united states, the former president and his to does do not want to face the facts. they are trying to do revisionist history on january 6th. >> lawrence: she is such a liar. >> ainsley: pelosi's team maintains the former speaker was not in charge of security at the capitol complex at the time. brian, would you like it share the headlines? >> brian: officials in california rescuing a stranded kite surfer after the pilot spotted the word help on the sand. genius. a first responder went down from the helicopter and the surfer was hoisted to safety. it is not clear how long they were stung on the beach. officials say the surfer did not need medical attention. ainsley, you take it back. >> ainsley: all right. uber driver in florida going viral after hitting all the right notes with passengers. >> i usually only have one rule in my car ♪ everybody dance now >> i got karaoke >> we need you to take us -- >> watch this, watch this. ♪ ♪ low, low, low, low, low ♪ >> ainsley: i hope she is at a stoplight there she even has a microphone. she lives in tampa. if you are in tampa. you might get her as an uber driver. one of a kind karaoke experiences where riders choose a song and they sing their hearts out. five star rated driver says, quote: i realized when people got in my car we weren't going to agree on religion or politics but music is a uniter. music touches everybody's soul. >> steve: she is absolutely right. she gives everybody. okay. here is my spotify list. go ahead and hit something. the words come on. she has apparently got props in the back where there is like a microphone and some michael jackson glasses and stuff like that. can you act it out. >> brian: i bet she doubles her salary a year because of tips. ♪ apple boughten jeans with the fur. >> ainsley: apple bottom jeans flo rida. >> steve: she is in florida. brian to your point about she probably has doubled her pay. just the fact that she is on tiktok. she is making money on that tiktok thing. we just showed it and probably a million people. >> brian: now the chinese have seen and it using it against her. you know the problem wither h right? chewing gum. >> lawrence: come on. >> brian: i have to ask her. >> ainsley: what would you do in her backseat. >> brian: have to ask people to take it out. >> steve: it's her car. get out of her car. >> ainsley: music is so loud. would you sing karaoke? i don't think you would. >> lawrence: imagine seeing all that talent and you see gum in the mouth. unbelievable. >> brian: coming up next. it's a bit of a mystery. ♪ there are many ways to do things. at old dominion freight line, we do them this way. this way has people who start early. people who care and inspire each other to do things the way they should be done. this way uses technology (♪) and goes the extra mile (♪) to deliver your promises on-time, every time. this way is why we're the number one national ltl carrier for quality. for us, this way is the right way which is why it's the only way we go. voices of people with cidp: cidp disrupts. cidp derails. let's be honest... all: cidp sucks! voices of people with cidp: but living with cidp doesn't have to. when you sign up at shiningthroughcidp.com, you'll find inspiration in real patient stories, helpful tips, reliable information, and more. cidp can be tough. but finding hope just got a little easier. sign up at shiningthroughcidp.com. all: be heard. be hopeful. be you. 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>> very bad. tremendous uptick in criminal activity. we want to talk about there was recently a shooting where the migrant shot, two of our police officers. our local cops. trying to keep us safe who were tailing him because he was a suspect in several robberies. now, they shoot at our police officers. we have stealing packages off the stoops. hundreds and hundreds of motor scooters using to commit crime. prostitution shelters outside. roosevelt avenue plagued by a wave of lawlessness. that wave is clearly coordinating to what what has been coming in and our lack of effective response by those in government today representing us. >> brian: how would you describe the neighborhoods, the ethnicity, the income that are being abused like this by these illegal immigrants who obviously are ungrateful despite getting free room, free shelter, free board? >> the majority of the district that i represent as district leader and i represented in the past is council member, is he a working class of people of color community overwhelmingly latino and african-american, asian, and south asian. >> brian: how angry are they. >> very angry. the fact of the matter in my community, a lot of homeowners, there is taxpayers. residents of our community who really are important part of our city, the fabric of who we're. and they support all the good things and then now they are in a good decent neighborhood and they have all these shelters coming in and really negatively impacted. very poor planning by all at the table. >> brian: 19-year-old involved in the gang. neck tattoo. bulls jersey that says they are involved in these gangs. out to kill people. the guy that shot the two cops was still struggling. they were still trying to get him in the car there was no contrition. they are sending us their worst. >> there's no doubt about it. based on my experience, living in queens in the community that literally is the pertinent of epicenter.large segment of peopy part of organized crime networks operating in the borough of queens. >> brian: democratic administration. democratic officials. some -- for some reason washington doesn't want to hear from the cities. doesn't want to hear from queens. doesn't want to hear from the mayor. but i'm glad you are speaking out and taking action. >> listen, the bottom line is we all want to be safe. we want public safety and we want everyone in office to understand that our community deserves to be safe just like any other place in america. >> brian: keep on demonstrating and we will keep on covering it. all right, hiram hopefully things will change. installing vape detectors in bathrooms to crack down on troublemakers. ♪ music ♪ ♪ unnecessary action hero! ♪ ♪ unnecessary. ♪ was that necessary? 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>> steve: i'm doing okay. i understand this was actually the idea of a student who said, you know, there are people vaping in there. i remember when in high school they were smoking in the boys room. now they are just vaping in the boys room and girls room, right? >> absolutely. one of my students that sits on my principal's council now a ninth grader brought this to our attention and really wanted us to do something about it. >> steve: with this a.i. technology it can actually detect vapor. and apparently it can tell the difference between nicotine and pot? >> yes. it actually can determine between different chemical signatures in the air. so even if the girls are spraying perfume it won't go of o. but if they're using a vape and let's say it has nicotine or marijuana it will send a signal to us right away. >> steve: you get an email immediately, what do you do? >> well, i have security officers in my building that carry ipads who they get the alert just as quickly as i do. so then they go to that bathroom and they check on see holt students were that were in the bathroom in a time frame. we bring them down to the office. we can do backpack checks. we can talk to the kids a lot of times the kids will del us straight upfront. kids are usually good. they tell us -- they are try these things because it's cool. >> steve: right, indeed. the peer pressure. hey, look at this. i got a vape pen, whatever, try it. and that's how it starts. in addition, apparently there are no microphones. but there is this a.i. technology algorithm that can hear sounds. so, that, you know, if people are involved in a fight or roughhousing, but it can differentiate between like a toilet lid slamming and, i know, somebody getting a haymaker. >> yes. it can definitely. what it does, it registers the decibels in the room and sends us annual alert if it is over a period of time. but, also realize middle schoolers are loud no matter. what sometimes when they are in the room it's a little loud. >> steve: i would imagine just knowing that they have got the vape detectors in the bathrooms now, that's got to be some sort of a deterrent. they have to find some place. >> absolutely. the whole idea behind this was to stop new kids from vaping. so, that, you know, the ones who are already doing it and are addicted trying to help. the ones we want to stop are the ones before they start. >> steve: it's great idea. frank, thank you very much for joining us from new york. and congratulations on your retirement. at the end of this season as an educator frank is going to go fishing. >> thank you very much. have great day. >> steve: you too, have a great life and summer as well. all right. >> you too. >> steve: thanks, frank. 17 minutes before the top of the hour. serrie is getting senatorrer as apple rolls out a massive ai update is there any way to escape ai in every part of our lives? 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ainsley: what if you miss something? >> what if the narrative is controlled -- it's not controlled by me it's a machine and someone else programming that telling it to summarize in a certain way. >> ainsley: elon musk if apple integrates open ai at the of level apple devices will be banned at my companies. that is unacceptable security violation. >> kurt: two things there. is he right. is he right about being a more of a private and security risk. if you noticed in the announcement yesterday what tim cook said is we're bringing in the opportunity on top of apple intelligence work on a machine. we're now going to connect this outward and allow you to ask chatgpt things that you might want to know. you can share a document with them. photos, videos so, now you're inapparently very private stuff is being encouraged to share outwardly to chatgpt's open ai. i don't know if i'm comfortable with that yet. i have a lot of questions about it because that's not how i'm used to apple being. >> ainsley: our children. i don't want a.i. to necessarily have that. >> kurt: the second thing with elon musk that you have to measure there, he has a beef with open ai. he has a dispute with them. at first when i heard that i thought, all right, is he just mouthing off on his dispute. but, he has got a point. he has got a point that we have to really measure our privacy here. and we have to start asking ourselves bigger questions about ai. because now apple is in the game. and they are writing the ticket for everybody in the world in terms of what we do with technology. we need to ask ourselves to what extent do we want ai to control our lives? because a wave of unmeasured, unbounded ai is going to be coming at us, and we may not have decisions to be made -- it may not be easy to make our own decisions in the future what machine is doing it for you again and again and again. people's mindset gets into that direction. >> ainsley: all these tech companies taking advantage of it. cutting edge and they want to bed first. hand it over to brian. hi,brian. >> brian: hi, ainsley. keep in touchy will try to see you during the break. arrest made after three alarm fire tore through miami complex yesterday. a 73-year-old man allegedly got into an argument with an employee, shot them, then set the place on fire. that worker is in critical condition. four others required medical assistance for smoking inhalation including three firefighters. authorities say over 40 residents. most of whom are elderly, were rescued. now. this shocking video out of jefferson county, colorado. showing a person proudly tearing up an american flag. it was planted on the side of a road to honor a fallen police or fallenpolice officers after e creating a total of 7 flags the vandal gave the surveillance officer the middle finger. sheriff's office is asking for help to identify the person so so she quotes gets the encore she deserves. remember the man in michigan who went viral during his court appearances for driving without a license? >> just give me one second. i'm parking right now. >> so maybe i don't understand something. you are driving without a license suspended? >> that is correct, your honor. >> and he was just driving and he doesn't have a license? >> based upon what the court looked at he has never had a michigan license, ever. and has never had a license in the other 49 states and commonwealths that form up this great union. >> brian: you can't suspend something you never h corey harris now has his learner's permit after passing a theory test. he was seen dancing after getting the good news and could get his full license as soon as next month. i don't understand how can you actually get a license after it was suspended after not having had one and being in trouble for driving anyway. >> steve: it's this easy, brian, he never had a license. he thought he had a license but then it was apparently suspended because he wasn't paying child support. so he never had a license. so it was impossible to suspend it. >> lawrence: this is after we apologized. we ran the story. and we'll found. >> steve: the state got the story wrong. >> lawrence: apparently all this outrage on social media you just embarrassed this guy. it was a court error. and then the judge comes upped from the secretary of state -- the judge goes there was no error. he just never had a license. so. >> ainsley: how do you think he had a license. he took the license test or he didn't. >> brian: either a stranger got in your car with a clipboard or it didn't happen. or did you just pick up somebody in the street and say would you judge my driving? >> lawrence: that is true. a little too in my opinion is he a little too old for a learner's permit. >> steve: never too old. >> lawrence: i got a learner's permit when i was 14. >> ainsley: is he up to date on his child support payment? >> steve: we don't know about that. once again a great guy to have on the show we have a million. >> lawrence: ainsley wants to know if he is taking care of the kids. >> ainsley: take care of your babies. maybe is he now. they wouldn't give him a permit before because he wasn't. >> steve: learner's permit so he can officially get a license. good luck. >> lawrence: we'll cover it. more "fox & friends." we still got two hours. >> brian: if they want to wrap us. now playing the music before we wrap. the control room is taking control ♪ and joe bide
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[ cheering and applause ] >> trace: good evening emma trace gallagher, it's alone pm on the east coast, 8:00 in los angeles and this is a mega slate news, 'fox news @ night'. breaking side, dramatic new media of the heroic military operation in gaza that rescued four's early hostages from a palestinian terrorist, eric cohen is here to give us a step-by-step of what happened but the media somehow condemning israel for saving its own citizens, and then and there is this. >> this is about what i will personally label, the idiocy of team usa women's basketball. how dare you make this decision? it is stupid. >> trace: national controversy after caitlin clark was left off of the 2024 olympic women's basketball team, should she have made team usa? it is eight "the nightcap" we need to input on. what happens when your employer forces you to embrace a progressive symbol that goes against your religious beliefs? when california christian lifeguard is suing the la county fire department, he would join us live on set with his protest. we begin with tall tales being called out. a lengthy fact check of the false stories and joe biden has told stroud his 50 years of public service, except the times goes to great lengths to call him everything but lies. kevin corke is live and in dc with more, good evening. >> tall tales indeed, good evening. he would never expect the left-leaning new york times to call it president biden but am doing is so, a pattern is now beginning to emerge with more and more usually reliable media outlets willing to point out mr, his attention for telling lies or as a times puts it, tall tales had an understanding mind you that any misstatements or statistical or factual errors from former president trump, those were lies but these are tall tales? nonetheless, of the times is keeping the score and mr. biden is openly racking up. for example,, he said he was nominated for an appointment to the naval academy, not so. no records of that. he also said he is to drive an 18 wheeler, he drove a school bus and he took a 500-mile trip as a senator, a cargo truck. he leaders that he was arrested during the civil rights movement, no record of that. but he did deliver the eulogy for former west virginia senator who had one point in his life had been an organizer and member of the kkk. biden also claims to be the first and his family to go to college and the nephew of a cannibalism victim. report in -- while she wrote of this, all of these claims stretching the truth or are downright false. she also edited by an often drastic, with different audiences through hyperbole. saying mr. biden's approval ratings have plummeted not the lowest level lever according to nati silvers 538, biden sitting at 37.4 percent just under five months to go before the american people decide about every election day. >> trace: low number, kevin corke live before us in bc. thank you. [ ♪♪ ] the fox news and add commonsense department has a question for the new york times got comic -- how much -- how come donald trump tells thais and joe bondy tells tall tales, hyperboles, exaggerations? it's funny because common sense is pretty in two and with the media and could swear that joe biden lies all the time, constantly, consistently. but for some reason in the liberal media, biden speaks only the truth. the new york times says that biden often tries "connecting with his audience through hyperbole". we also told at times biden uses "rhetorical flourishes back factual liberty". common sense is confused, is the uncle who was eaten by cannibals a rhetorical flourish or a factual liberty? how about a biden driving the big rig, being the first and his family to attend college, graduating at the top of his class? what about the phony laptop, never talking business with his son? the media will tell you it is not a lie, it is unverified, when that joe biden is just stretching to. mark twain said there are three types of lies, lies, it damn lies and statistics, clearly referencing to trump. sense think biden would know kinda joe would not tell a damn lie, he would simply stretch and embellish a rhetorical flourishing, factual liberty. and with that let's bring in a steamboat institute fellow kaylee mcghee white and princeton university put it was scientists, lauren a. wright. thank you both were coming on. kaylen to you for his, is the new york times kidding with this, this the torah goal flourish? >> others layers of the leaders of hypocrisy within this new york times report. firstly attempt to suggest that biden's lies is somehow less egregious than trump's plea because trump was making false claims about a so-called stolen election when the reality is, there are plenty of democrats have also made similar lies who have not wound up with lengthy new york times fact checks. also hypocritical fact that these lies that biden has told which are very numerous as you have pointed out in your segment , it's been around for decades to maggot they were around into the 2020 election. suddenly the new york times is just deciding to do fact check on them? the only difference to me it seems is that joe biden is no longer a good candidate for the democratic party. he is losing in the polls to trump when he wasn't back in 2020 and at the media is trying to turn on him. >> trace: mate -- taking a much closer look, a pole from care television out of minnesota, this is about how enthusiastic the candidate are they. look at the numbers, you have trump at 61.5 percent and biden added 30.9 percent. that is double the number. there's something going on here because we are constantly told the country doesn't like either of these candidates but clearly somebody does. >> to caleigh's point, the sad thing for democrats is biden is the best they've got. harris is not electable, and he beat her fair and square along with the rest of the candidates in the democratic primary. yes, he stories are egregious. those are not the issues that will lead biden and the election on average, americans are angry and they feel less safe, last free, less prosperous than they did under trump. simple calculation they are making, yes at the age is an issue and it new york times and others are right to pointed out but but it's not at the top of welders minds. >> trace: this is from dana white, of the ceo of ufc, he said this about donald trump, watch... >> number 1, take any of the greatest fighters of all time, trump is number 1. you've got money, you got a great life, you got whatever, keep doing it. this guy loves this country and he loves all americans. >> trace: talked a lot of americans, a lot of the straw he sat through day by day a mark -- a lot of them say yes, he is a fighter. you can say whatever you want but he is a fighter stone and that's a calculation voters have made, maybe if they don't like trump personally the appreciate the fact he is willing to go to bat for them. i think my own family members, who normally would vote democrats but they feel left behind by biden's democratic party. and trump was the only one willing to fight for the issues they care about. >> trace: canadians at colleges and conservative media commentator jordan peterson art of the animosity towards trump and the leaders, trumped arrangement. final thoughts on this... >> that degree upon musty or trumpet is somewhat of a mystery to me. i cannot quite crack it. there is a class paid their albot say. elitist people are annoyed that somebody like donald trump or somebody who they think donald trump is has dared to enter the upper echelons so there's something about it that is very classist. >> trace: something makes them hate him, but not sure why. 30 seconds. >> there is an elite coastal factor at play here, road about how trump came into the election with 95 percent name recognition but everybody was absolute shock t1. a beloved celebrity, and that's as simple as it gets. i think the real embarrassment, misunderstanding with trump is that you says all of these offensive things, but they care more by the cable what you promises to do and i will be the end of it. >> trace: i think that is right. lauren, caleigh, thank you both. meantime fog scammers are a document in large groups of migrants illegally crossing into the u.s. as a biden's executive order on to the border appears to have little effect on the continuing a surge marianne rafferty live without story, joins as on-site guy good evening. >> no signs of slowing down, migrants continued to pour over the border in a drones leg before the executive order. with many saying that they flew into mexico and made their way to the border, some even consulting the internet to find guides. one migrants tolling as they feel welcomed by the biden administration. >> what you think of president biden? >> biden, a love biden. biden help us. >> an internal border patrol memo instructing san diego sector to release single adults from all but six countries in the eastern hemisphere, center and asked my said it's all part of the democrats plan. >> you don't have to be a citizen to go to the census that step one, and if they go to the embassy to vote, that is when they leave that's her road to more power and control. >> saying it's all about mike and safety, listen. >> our intent is to really change the risk calculus of individuals before they leave before -- the countries of origin and incentivize of them to use the lawful pathways who made available to them and keep them out of the hands of expletive smugglers. >> a senior patrol officer telling this newly uncovered memo only applies to the san diego sector and migrants released into the u.s. under its guidance are not actually eligible for asylum. >> trace: thank you tackles bring into the author of come on man, joe concha along with the federal staff contributor, evita duffy-alfonso. thank you both were coming on. i want to play this out, this is cbs face the nation, catches kind of stunned that americans [ inaudible ] >> would you support a new government program, that would deport all people in the u.s. illegally and that finds majority favor, six in 10. >> to unpack that a bit, 62 percent of americans in favor of deporting all undocumented immigrants. what mr. trump talks about could be illegal, it doesn't seem practical in some sense to round up children. what exactly do people think they are supporting? >> trace: i think they are exactly supporting the law of the countries, you? >> trays, market brandon is not unlike almost every other member of the media, to answer your question, yes, it's all about enforcing simple laws. it's a matter of journalists living in the safe spaces marianne rafferty ivory towers, new york, washington, not talking to anybody outside of their own ecosystem. here are the facts, majority of americans support a border wall construction. two thirds of that cbs poker nearly two thirds support mass deportation for those who entered the country illegally. illegal immigration as you know is a number 1 number 2 issue. for what is most important to voters marianne rafferty, and somehow shocked by this kiger shows how out of touch leads in the media are, not just on immigration but inflation, because neither impacts him the way he does the average voter. >> trace: here is as cnn legal analysts who thinks hundred biden, maybe he imagined when he thought he was clean. >> a jury could also say wait way to second prosecutors, needed not say are establish this individual used or possessed these drugs it during the october 2018, warned that the defendant knowingly did so. he may have thought he was cleaning, that he was fixing his life up and so on. >> trace: is a scripted? do you -- your thoughts? >> and they are doing the job of his defense team, working for the hunter biden defense team packets shock and. also using this from media right now, that he is an addict, we need to be compassionate towards him because other americans struggle with us. and it falls on deaf ears, somebody who has an addiction and my own family, that does not mean he have a free pass. this is what is interesting, we have preached by these individuals into the corporate media that the monkey have to be compassionate, rally against white privilege, nabo baby white privilege hundred biden comes in and break the law all of a sudden we have to break all the rules. and these are democrat laws. >> trace: i want to move through these two things quickly, in bc but this headline of, is really military rescues for hostages, more than 400 plus trains killed, then york times and the associated press have been saying the same stuff. unbelievable, you know, you thoughts? >> gaza health officials literally is hamas. you cannot take them at their word. did throughout 200 people, five minutes after something happens and in the new york times, almost every other media outlet echoes that. it's utterly ridiculous, we have lived with us since october 7th they continue to do it and where are the only network calling it out. i guess it's not enough? >> trace: the new york post, gaza journalist who wrote for al jazeera was holding three hostages in home with family. israel says, a journalist, for al jazeera, holding hostages. >> i mean the media has been discrediting itself over and over again, when it comes to any other story we see important in our country. the format, the russia collusion hoax, just discrediting themselves over and over again. >> trace: over and over again, thank you both. mean audrey to liberations underweight for hunter biden's gun track the defense closed its case without calling the president sent to the stand, live with more in willington, delaware, good evening. >> good evening, this trial of elite moving rapidly, only a week old, jurors will come back tomorrow and o'clock eastern time after deliberating for about one hour before going home. evita duffy-alfonso -- hunter biden had a lot of family members inside of the courts today showing him support. he seemed upbeat, smiling, giving them xoxox as there were breaks in the courtroom which is significant. jurors have to decide whether hunter biden lied on the gun form in 2018 when he said he was not addicted to drugs, they say that he committed three different felonies, two of those felonies where it falls a statement, one deals with possession of that gun in 2018. now the government does not have to prove that hunter was on drugs and he bought a gun or even into the month of tobit. jurors have to weigh the general time period, prosecution showed text messages, hunter biden it texting his sister-in-law, talking about doing drugs, the lawyer for the government jurors told not to focus on the presence of famous people, meaning the first lady and others who have continuously showed up. it isn't wanted jurors to be distracted, wants them to focus on the actual evidence marianne rafferty hunters and attorney power did to the gun form that says are you on unlawful user or addicted to illegal drugs, it is and say have you ever been, it's about hunters a frame of mind is what i below says. again it jurors back tomorrow, if convicted hunter could face up and i say could, up to 25 years behind bars marianne rafferty is also possible the jury could have a split verdict, fighting him guilty on one and acquit him on two others. >> trace: see you tomorrow night. live it for as in delaware. let's bring in former deputy assistant attorney general john yoo, great to have a. hunter biden's attorney as david was saying, biden did not consider himself an addict when you bought a gun. it's not what he said, but what do you think? >> it is not a plausible defense. i don't think it's going to work. i think really the defense is hope is that the jury being in delaware just chooses not to follow the law, not to find the clear facts. and went to the defense put on to this idea that oh, hunter biden might have used drugs a few weeks before, maybe a few weeks after but not in that timeframe, it opened the door for the prosecution to introduce all of these tax and all of this geolocation data about where hunter biden was and his cell phone and he is texting a trying to find drug dealers at the 711 in wilmington. it's just the day before when the day after. so turned out to be very harmful to his case. i don't really see a defense that is going to work here. to really puzzling why the ever went to trial the first place. >> trace: try to find a guy named mookie, does he do jail time, hunter biden? no, he is looking at some come to thank he does jail time? >> i don't think so. may have to look at it this way, i think many people are thinking about it this, this is a prelude to the much more serious cage which is going to take place where you are in la, i think -- it wasn't rescheduled in september about millions of dollars in tax evasion. so here, hunter biden first-time offender, be he probably won't do jail time but he maybe a convicted felon. that means you have to serve jail if he's convicted in the second federal trial in september. >> trace: i have to go but here's the thing, in the drum document case today, breaking news, judge jeanine denied a motion to dismiss some charges but the new york times reports of fallen, of the government must remove it from its charges an episode in which mr. trump has been shown a highly sensitive military map to one of his close aides after he left office, of the decision by judge or was it more of a swipe at prosecutors working for special counsel. jack smith. what do you think? >> this is favorable for donald trump, there was no way they were going to wind of the motion on dismissing the case entirely, the prosecution can still go forward. but that was one of them more damaging facts in the indictment, and is key to them showing that the national interest was harmed in some way by president trump if he ask you had these documents, these classified documents in an unauthorized away. will make it harder for the prosecution to run its case there. >> trace: i think so. john yoo, going to have you on. coming up, dramatic video shows the moment is really hostages are recovered in a daring rescue? it is a video you have not seen, even if he had, we will have a eric cole and go through this and give you an idea what is happening. later in the "the nightcap" i get that woman's olympics committed to -- decision to leave caitlin clark off of the 2024 rosters sparking national debate with many calling the move eight snob, and mist opportunity to grow the game. >> caitlin clark does not deserve a spot ahead of any of the players on this roster. okay? 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[ ♪♪ ] >> trace: dramatic new vader tate of the rescue operation in gaza there in file that is really hostages their freedom, ashley strohmier with the details in the compelling images of the mission. good evening to. >> located the footage was captured of the helmet camera warned by an israeli operate of during the rescue mission, the video revealed just how dangerous it was to get out of the hostages from the hands of how w.a.s.p members of israel's yemen, in the operation unit it worked along the israel defense forces taking on heavy fire during the operation. now four more israelis have been reunited with their families after nearly 250 days in captivity. one parent of an israeli megan hostage who remains in captivity said about the return of noah. >> know saturday was the birthday of noah's data, also my birthday. is and as i heard the news is that he got the greatest gift in the world, distal a few few hours for me to get to get the same gift. hopefully soon. >> there's also been criticism from media outlets about the mission which resulted in the death of more than 270 palestinians according to the gaza health ministry. it is important to note that the ministry does not distinguish between civilians and hamas fighters and their data is often met with skepticism. was it today the united nations acadie council paused president biden's proposed cease-fire dale it has been approved by israel, hamas has yet to sign on. >> trace: thank you. let's bring in a veteran of azo special operations counterterrorism unit of aaron cohen out of the start of netflix skin it decision before and after pro- israeli activist dr. sheila nazarian, rabbi mentz and former navy seal who trained with the idea special forces, aaron ut you first, want to put this video up and go over this. give us an idea of what is going on here and how difficult was this mission? >> let me start off by saying that all of the intelligence that was harvested for this operation was do you to, and again in hebrew we have an expression, which means intelligence is born in the battlefield that's number 1. for the last eight months israel has been putting an incredible amount of pressure on hamas and that rolling intelligence based on blood pressure,'s are competing we have discussed is the reason why this was actionable intelligence. what you're seeing here, is 18 or one asset working in conjunction with israel's domestic intelligence and security forces, and they are making forced entry into the structure from 360 degrees. useful as one of the only units in the world capable of doing that, they are literally -- the operators are flogging each other, crossing each other, the reason why is 360-degree assault overwhelms the tier risk, they can only point in one direction at a time when it is multiple barrels coming out of them of the violence of action and they attack, having the shots go straighter. these are behavioral-based tactics and the seventies israel team with their scientists and reformulated see qb which is what is this is, to be able to shoot straight or, should faster and get hostages home. >> trace: phenomenal. hamilton over to you, you can put the video back up, the washington post opinion, hamas is not interested in releasing hostages based on history the only way any additional is really hostages is getting freed is by rescue operations like the one the israeli defense forces launched on saturday. cameron diaz thank it is true that we can see more rescues like this, that we will need to see more rescue like this? >> absolutely. i think right now israel likely has the intelligence to garner more rescue missions,'s sole purpose is to return the hostages safely and soundly and they continue the war against hamas. again we had to remind our viewers israel did not ask for this conflict, israel did not want this conflict. and want any unnecessary loss of life but hamas must come and release these hostages first and foremost. 's will is taking tactics as covered by mr. aaron cohen had remarkable, trained a lot of u.s. military personnel as well. i think the dynamic scenario in the chaos is due to surprise of the hamas fighters when israeli forces encountered them in this building the. >> trace: amazing, it is. what you think of the biden administration negotiating could almost directly may be through qatar but almost directly with hamas? >> i think it is a waste of time, i think what you're seeing it here with this operation, whether or not hamas wants to give the back of the hostages or they would get of them back either way they are coming home. that is what i think. whether we got a kick down doors. by the way the operatives deployed on this operation, in his civilian clothing, dressed as local arabs, they pulled it off in broad daylight and the reason they were able to do that is because the element of surprise. i say to biden and his team, israel, we're getting back our people either way. >> trace: foxnews.com writes the following, at bbc anchor as exhibit -- israel forces worn palestinians ahead of the hostage rescue mission, i cannot imagine asking that question. it's a military operation that clearly took months to pull off and you gonna give notification? >> at the basic prerogative here is surprise and balance of action. if they lose the element of surprise whenever you engage in hostage rescue missions when he notified the assailants of what you are objectives, i think of israel were to engage in further conflict here and rescue more hostages it would be a categorical global skate -- mistake to modify how w.a.s.p you're potentially garnering a scenario will hamas will target and/or harm is really civilians for what? for the ultimate purpose of withdrawing israeli military, or engaging in bartered and shipped for further peace. we all want peace with it has to start with returning to the hostages, israel has to pull off what's necessary to return them home. >> trace: we said they would move all these college campuses and they have, they have surround the white house and called for a intifada revolution. here's some more video of these protesters, anti- israel pro- palestinian, very anti- -- just watch. [ bleep ]. >> trace: thoughts? >> listen, as an iranian, first-generation to america, we have been trying to warn the americans, america's next. americas now. and we are seeing it into these protests, weather defacing thinks calculated disrespecting america, they are just calling it out afford the killing of zionist, killing of jews out loud at this point. what is and how to take for americans to wake up? >> trace: rabbi mentz, he wrote let's not be distracted, how we know idea have could put all the hostages home wants ago and it would of the census murders of innocent palestinian children but we know their true motivation. >> it's kind of ironic, the jewish people have been -- we're about to salivate on wednesday, 3666 years since god came down and gave us the 10 commandments? thou shout not kill, thou shalt not murder. we the jewish nation never wanted to get into this war and if we were not hampered we would have done this in six days. the world has put handcuffs on israel and they allowed this is civilians not to leave to go to egypt. >> trace: camera here is in michigan giving a from the posting in his speech and she still gets heckled, watch. >> it we mourn all of the innocent lives that have been lost in gaza, including those tragically killed today. for the past eight months, president biden and i have been working every day to bring this conflict -- i'm speaking right now. i value and respect you voice but i'm speaking right now. >> trace: the keep trying to ruin of these far left radicals and yet they are not going to, your thoughts? >> my thoughts as the innocent palestinians tell us where the rest of the hostages are, come out now. trays, if i knew my next-door neighbors had kidnapped people and i don't come out and speak about it, my innocent? like to all of the innocent palestinians, come out and tell us where the hostages are, show us your innocence. to kamala harris, you cannot play both sides. they are failing. >> kamala harris, he built the sub, you allowed them to speak, gave them free speech and now, you got a problem with it? [ laughter ] welcome to it free speech is from your party. >> trace: 10 seconds, aaron cohen? >> israel pulled out a doozy, that was a magic trick i was talking but eight months ago, they got the pressure on hamas for the past 8 miles, there's a reason why know what home in three hostages are home. >> trace: dr. sheila nazarian, is aaron cohen, photomac, speeding. a life guard came under fire after refusing to fly a part of flag in his workstation and what happened after that? common sense, captain jeffrey little joins his life. a live earth camera looking at north carolina, nicknamed the land of the sky. who knew? we're coming right back. [ ♪♪ ] >> trace: in a small victory for religious freedom, los angeles county has graded a christian lifeguard a partial exemption from flying a progress pride of flag in his workspace. let's bring in captain jeffrey little and his attorney, special counsel paul jonna. a thank you both were coming on. captain to you first, you were granted an exemption and then they revoked it and they've given it back to you, you have to be thinking you don't trust these people? >> absolutely. this process all began last year, and i requested an exemption to not have to fly the pride flag and be responsible for supervising. >> trace: what you tell them, digitally listened this is the way i believe, what was your reasoning? >> i'm a christian, and being a christian i want to honor god and will honor the bible and doing this action and endorsement, religious convictions i have, bringing this in the workplace. >> trace: paul jonna to you now, you don't have to abandon your phrase because you're working a job, right? soon obsolete not, the first amendment protects employees in the situation, a government employer like the county must accompany -- accommodate religious -- as it has birdiemac this is somebody without religious objection fly the flag but instead they are doubling down on a position in there forcing us to litigate of this issue. >> trace: part of the problem is, that you are, you don't have to raise a flag but he still have to tell some deals to do that. that is not a true remedy? >> correct, having to compel a subordinate and having to supervise the operation of that part like being raised, to me that does not honor god and it is really living a lie, continuing to do that. >> trace: i know this has been said to you many times but the whole idea of people saying while, it has nothing to do with you not wanting to rescue somebody who is gay. it has zero to do with that at all, and that's not even part of the case be when it's a complete diversion, i have been doing this for 22 years and had excellent feedback and hundreds of people saying, my job is to protect the public. and i will continue to do that for the rest of my career. >> trace: why do we have to legally force people to adopt somebody else's celebration which is against their faith? i don't get the reason for that. >> of the u.s. supreme court has held that a public school cannot require students to salute the american flag, government employees cannot require employers to salute the making of like what the county of los angeles is choosing to dictate its employees have to raise a progress part of flag which they owned document say promotes messages about his beard and magic, it's very controversial thing. and forcing religious man, a man of faith to do this is unconstitutional. >> trace: what you think about this, when they revoked it, did you think what are you doing? and how do you think this battle is going to go on for a while, or is it something you think could be fixed quick? >> it's a simple fix, it's a simple ask. but it seems as though my employer has not shown good faith and honoring the beliefs of people with faith. >> trace: what do you say? are you confident that you are going to go to the outcome you are fighting for? >> our small team has had nonconsecutive ones against the state of california, get a longer fight with the county in the past which resulted in them paying attorney fees marianne rafferty they dig their heels and co. push the envelope as far as they can, ultimately they lose these cases and were quite confident they will hereto. >> trace: captain, paul jonna, thank you for coming in. best of luck to you. >> i would rather watch grass grow, i would rather watch paint dry, i would rather watch it dirt be moved around because caitlin clark is on the team. you people, whoever did this, honestly, take your brain, put it in a museum and is studied for how dumb you are. >> trace: founder of sports bay, he is not the only one with a heck of a lot disabled of the decision to keep caitlin clark off of the woman's olympic basketball team roster. what do you think? was it a sound judgement or a complete an otter's now? let us know on x. and instagram, we will read your responses, @tracegallagher, coming up in the "the nightcap". 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's got says it does not meet olympic storage, best day in olympics her head. doctor danna said yes, if he has added christian, caitlin clark to the treatment team, why not? tommy said yes, if you want more eyes on women's basketball, she would help as she has for the wnba. and emmett w. such snot and the top temples it is a blessing that would have been awful. good stuff, good panel. thank you all for joining,'s be think of her make us late news,a 'fox news @ night'. angeles, i was he back here tomorrow night. and 5g solutions from t-mobile for business. t-mobile connects 100,000 delta airlines employees, powers tractor supply's stores nationwide with reliable 5g business internet, and partners with pga of america on game changing innovation. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business. this is the easiest, non-toxic swap you'll ever make. lumineux toothpaste was made by dentists designed to break up plaque and remove any toxins in the mouth, so it'll deep clean your teeth and whiten your teeth without any sensitivity. find lumineux toothpaste at a walmart and target. landscape and th [ ♪♪ ] >> dana: hello everybody i'm per dana perino along with judge jeanine pirro, richard fowler, jesse watters and greg but gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, this is 'the five'. 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after 22 witnesses and 16 days of testimony, donald trump has become the first ever american president to be convicted of a crime. this trial will go down in history. but without cameras in the courtroom, americans never got to see the evidence for themselves. they didn't get to see trumps eyes close and his mouth go slack as he sat slumped at the defense table. they didn't get to hear stormy daniels salacious testimony, firsthand. i didn't get to watch the judge clear the courtroom, seemingly in anger, as he butted heads with one particularly truculent witness. instead, americans have to rely on word from the few reporters who were actually in the room, making notes, writing down, committing to memory the things we saw and experienced. things that a transcript cannot capture. take a look. that was something to behold. i could hear gasps all around me . i wasn't sure we are going to get to a place where we had any guilty verdict against donald trump, let alone all 34 counts. >> donald trump was crying from the oval office. he was writing checks from the white house. >> this is a professional jury as you can get. and you can never read anything from them. >> in terms the vibe from the room, you heard about it being kind of a courtroom, it's real. >> i was in the courtroom, his eyes have been close most of the morning. i can't say what is happening behind those lids. >> one simple work, guilty, repeated over and over and over. something we have never seen before. , tonight we welcome you to the special msn ec event, prosecuting donald trump a witness to history. over this next hour, andrew weissman and i will lead you through what you missed inside the courtroom. not the line by line details of witness testimony, but with the help of our msnbc colleagues, will tell you what it was really like to sit just behind donald trump as the details of the case spilled over. we will tell you what it felt like in the room when witnesses took the stand just a few feet away from the former president. the unscripted, unpredictable moments when the former president seemed to be nodding off, uttering curse words. what people said to each other in the line for the bathroom after that riveting controversial testimony from stormy daniels. from andrew weissman and best legal minds, we will hear from what they saw inside the court, that the nonlawyers, like the rest of us, might have missed. start things off with our first impressions from inside manhattan courthouse. >> it is a surreal moment going for the first time. and see a former president of the united states, who is simultaneously the world's greatest con artist. those two things at the same time as a criminal defendant, just spends things in a way that nothing else can. and the weirdness of that alone is your first in the courtroom. in that first hour, it is hard to take in anything other than the weirdness of donald trump. >> anticipating going into the courtroom, i was actually excited to do it. but first of all, because i feel like a somebody who has written a trump book and has been covering this man from the beginning of his presidential campaign on, this kind of felt like a crescenta moment for him , and for the country. it is the only trial that he is going to face. so it definitely felt like a big moment and something that i really did want to witness for myself. >> having worked in another investigation, and we could not charge the sitting president and donald trump, that was a department of justice rule. now, in a full-fledged criminal case, it was kind of remarkable. >> i thought there would be a lot of people there. a lot of pro trump people, in particular. and they really weren't. and then found my nbc pham, around the spot where we do stand up, found all the producers and camera operators and everything and stood in line for a really long time. i will say, the thing that i learned was it is not what you are wearing that makes a difference. it is what you are wearing on your feet, because where you are going to get caught is through the soles of your dress shoes, you idiot, why didn't you wear sneakers? >> people understand, it is not you just walk up to the courthouse and they whisk you in and it was this easy breezy kind of thing. you line up outside, across the street from center street because they anticipate a number of people showing up. so you have three different lines, it is, flake flying on an airline was actually kind of put you in a different group of people to board. >> two courtroom that look identical, the only difference being the judge and the jury, et cetera, are in the overflow. >> the overflow room hold other members of the media and also withhold members of the public. the overflow room has a very large monitor at the front of it that shows directly councils table. so you have the prosecution on one side, the defense on the other. what you very clearly see donald trump. >> it was like a spa compared to the courtroom. you can go to the restroom whatever you want to. you can, and there is this absence of tension. in the overflow room. that i didn't know i was feeling in the courtroom. until i wasn't in the courtroom. and it is almost like, you know, you're standing in this very difficult window all day. and then the wind stops. it is that kind of very different sensation in what seems to be the same place. >> the day before senator tommy tuberville of alabama had gone to the trial and said it was the most depressing building he had ever been in, and he scorned on it. and i take that man's statement with a grain of salt. but it was perfectly nice. it was a good, highly functioning municipal building. it kind of struck me how much a certain class of americans are used to very elite spaces, and they are not used to public spaces. in a simple spaces, bureaucratic spaces, you have to spend a lot of time in those kinds of spaces. elite people, people of power and money, they tend to be in grandeur. >> donald trump in that setting, both when he is walking past you, he walks in and out and you kind of seen for the first time. this was the first time i have seen him in person, he was less than expected >> the first time i was in the courtroom, donald trump was very surprised to see me because i had been mostly reporters, very few anchor types showing up there. and donald trump has hated me longer than anyone who was going to walk into that courtroom. he was once very fond of stormy daniels and you know, very fond of michael cohen. in 2011, when donald trump started about the presidential birth certificate, i said he was lying about it and i called him on the lie and donald trump had never been called a liar before in his life when he was leaving that day, he just did the stupidest thing you could possibly do, he looked right at me, in this grand way, that everyone in the courtroom could see, and he was trying to do a face that would be tough guy and scary and threatening and full of hate, but he is a terrible actor. and so it came out as just an insanely twisted face that meant nothing but madness. and i loved it. >> if there were cameras in the court, people all over america in all 50 states would be calling in sick to work in order to stay on and watch this thing. i mean, it is so freaking compelling in person. and the drama of this particular criminal case against trump is both lurid and cogent and full of amazing characters, and has just enough surprise to make every witness kind of a cliffhanger. it's, you can't. i don't know if trump is falling asleep or if he is just resting his eyes, but it is not boring. it is riveting. >> riveting is the perfect word to describe what it was like inside donald trump's trial. every trial is dramatic, it is why we all get addicted to tv shows like law and order and the wire. this is real life, and it was no exception. but it is one thing to hear the news about it, or if you are a nerd like me, to read the cold transcript. but tonight, we're going to continue to learn from people who were inside the courtroom, day in and day out, waking up at the crack of dawn to wait in line to get one of the few seats available to the public and the press at 100 center street here in manhattan. so tonight i'm joined by a very special legal panel, who also spent many hours in the manhattan criminal courthouse, please welcome nbc senior legal correspondence and attorney, laura jarrett, in legal contributor, and former terminal trial attorney, katie fang, and msnbc legal correspondent, law litigator, lisa rubin. they are here with us for the whole hour, along with msnbc hosts giving us their impression from inside the courthouse. lisa, obviously, some of these witnesses got a ton of attention. they may not have been the most important witnesses. but stormy daniels, michael cohen. maybe the most surprising witness, which was the defendants last witness, the last anyone heard from bob castillo's. the big picture, what was your impression of how they did that people might not get from just reading accounts and hearing from us about what was technically said what was the sort of demeanor and tone that people might get >> i think the most important part about the witness that you can't get from reading the transcript, or sometimes even watching our coverage is the entrance and the exit. because all the witnesses were brought in through a side door to the courtroom, instead of the traditional back door where you walk along the entirety of the gallery, he watched through the center aisle and walked to the witness stand. here, each and every witness, no matter hostile to donald trump or friendly, had to walk by his first row of surrogates on their way into the courtroom. went by corporal security officers and those of them who had counsel, their counsel then load thereafter. in some cases, trump really wanted to have an interaction with the as with rona graff, his former executive assistant and other cases, the body language was as hostile as hostile could be. michael cohen looks like you wanted to vault over the courtroom doors so that he could avoid being even proximate to donald trump. that that entrance and exit was really fascinating to watch. >> katie, i had a question to you is somebody who spent so many years as a criminal prosecutor. lots of people have talked about how there should have been cameras in the courtroom, at least audio. and let's leave that aside for a moment. how do you think, if there had been cameras, that might have affected witnesses, the lawyers on either side, or even the defendant, donald trump, if this had been televised. >> i think it would've increased the intensity of the experience for everyone involved, especially the witnesses. you kind of ask yourself on and off, donald trump himself would have maybe reacted to more visibly than he did. maybe she wouldn't have acted or looked like he was asleep if you knew that there was a camera trained on him. but when it comes to the witnesses themselves, it is important because if they knew, just like we have seen in other trials, that they would be on the witness stand. i think it would've amplified maybe even performances that we saw from some of the witnesses. i think you are more hyperaware. i also think the jurors would have been aware, even if you never saw their identities, i know that they know it is important, what is at stake. but when you're in a courtroom, it is a small space. people need to understand this is not some huge cavernous federal courtroom. it is a small state courtroom and so people are within very close proximity, within feet of each other. and that is the jury. so if you know also, does not just people in the court that are watching or the overflow room, is america and the world, i think that amplifies the intensity. >> i was really surprised by how close the witness stand was to the jury box. really close. and actually the witness stand for donald trump was much, much further. so that was something i think you don't get from being there. much more for supersmart legal panel who were inside the courtroom, coming up. first, it is one of the most shocking testimonies of the truck, when stormy daniels took the stand, all while apparently, unbeknownst to us, wearing a bulletproof vest. after the break, our team takes us not only inside the courtroom, but inside the elevators and, wait for it, bathroom lines. where reporters try to process what they had just heard. you're watching prosecuting donald trump, witness to history. >> many of the journalists in the room are looking at each other think, my gosh, i can't believe that this is happening. i cannot believe this is actually being set on a public state. either way, how am i going to communicate this on television? everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it's a great 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among the reporters and the spectators of the courthouse? and, what about that bullet proof vest her lawyer says she wore to court. here are some more firsthand accounts from my colleagues from inside the room. when she came in, all of us kind of took a deep breath. no one expected we don't know who the witnesses are until that day. for a reason. right? the prosecution always protects their witnesses. resources we might figure out who witnesses maybe an hour beforehand. that morning, donald trump had posted on truth social that they had just informed of who the witness was and they had prepared and that person shouldn't be able to take the stand. and so the minute he had posted that, and then, by the way deleted it an hour later, we said, it is going to be stormy. >> i have compared this trial to watching two movies that are made eight years apart. and none of the central characters look the way you remember them in 2016. that is true of michael cohen, for example, as it is stormy daniels. on day one, she came in in a jumpsuit with her hair sort of haphazardly piled up on top of her head, wearing glasses, and not looking at all like the adult film star that we remembered. i have since come to learn, because her lawyer said this on another media outlet, she was wearing a bulletproof vest. and that accounted, i think, for her appearance, as well. she was wearing an outfit that accommodated her wearing a bulletproof vest because she felt that her life was at risk in coming to court and testify against former president trump and the reaction of people in margo world, who are loyal to president trump, i could just tell you this by looking at my twitter feed, reinforced why she felt she was in danger. >> we know trump reactions to stormy daniels thing, you can see. but there's donald trump, known to millions of people as the orange turned that has to sit there for the first time in his life and listen to himself being called the orange, his defense lawyer thinking that somehow harms stormy daniels. that she flippantly refers to donald trump as the orange turd. there's not a juror there who cares that stormy daniels refers to him as the orange turd. not one, they're not offended by it. these are new yorkers, these are people who have hurt worse in every trip on the subway. >> so we leave the courtroom, we walk out, there is like a row of bathrooms during breaks. everybody kind of lines up in the bathroom like you would in any kind of public place. we are all online looking at each other, giving eyes to each other. oh my gosh, that really what happened? getting onto the elevator, going down for lunch, did she just accuse the former president of this? did she just say this happened with the former president everybody's kind of mulling over and digesting what it is we all just heard >> the jurors, i think, have been admirably sort of stonefaced. i know i have seen reports, i didn't see it with my own eyes, but i've seen reports of some jurors kind of involuntarily reacting to some of the more salacious details i came out, particularly during stormy daniels paths tory., the jury was like stonehenge. like they were very restrained. >> this is a case about falsifying business records and the defense team made it sound like a 1970s rape case. they went after her about really hard about the fact that she has been in the porn industry for years. you have been in more than 200 porn films, how could you be a damsel in distress in the hotel room? in that moment, look at right at the jurors faces to try to see if i could read anything and get any glimpse of what they were thinking. they were inscrutable. they are maintaining a poker face the whole time. this is the same courtroom that harvey weinstein was tried in. this is a storied courthouse. this is a storied prosecution team. they have done sex crimes before. this was such a momentto have the woman at the center of this case basically told she couldn't have possibly been a comfortable because she had been. >> she was treated so differently than other witnesses. hope hicks and david pecker, the person at the head of the national enquirer, were devastating witnesses. they are sensitive testimony is so damning for donald trump and their cross-examination was kid gloves. >> nobody's testimony is in some respects, more devastating than hope hicks, because of her proximity. nobody questioned her credibility but if you take a step back and you separate these women and you forget about the accident of their respective births, hope hicks, for example, coming from very wealthy, greenwich, connecticut. sort of the academy of poise and grace in the trump white house, contrasted with stormy daniels, who had, by contrast, very rough childhood, a mother who abandoned her. all this comes out on her direct examination. but the difference in how they were trusted, i think, is really palpable. sort of a toxic brew of class and misogyny. there was absolutely a judgment about her credibility based on what she did for a living. and then you have to think to yourself, well, wait a second. hope hicks may look the way that she did, but she not only worked for trump once, she worked for trump twice she left the white house in march of 2018, came back to work for the former president, and stayed after he lost the election, despite the fact that she was privately advising him that he had lost in the things that his lawyers and allies were saying about his not losing the election and his winning were fraudulent. she still stayed. i have to question, who lacks credibility now? >> so fascinating to hear their stories. the legal brains in the room or hyper focused on the defenses strategy to go hard after stormy daniels on cross- examination. but not hope hicks or david pecker. our panel had a front row seat to it all is back. so, katie, from your spot in the courtroom, what do you think of stormy daniels? how did she do from actually seeing her life, as opposed to just reading it cold? >> she did a spectacular job. stormy daniels's testimony did not come across as rehearsed. whether you liked it or not, because of the sincerity. didn't seem like she rehearsed or practiced her testimony. given, she had prepared and that is the big difference. preparing with lawyers is totally different. but she prepared for that and she did a great job and i think she knew that even though, i call it a detour, not a sideshow but 80 torr of the case took a detour to export what happened between her and donald trump because he had to create the foundation of why the payment was made by michael cohen. how it got to the level of the business records being falsified. but you needed to have that dialogue. and what is really important, everybody likes to say that this is a paper case but is about humanity in some way, right? people's courage, people's involvement with others. extramarital affairs, hush money payments, all that is a very human thing and she brought that humanity to the case. >> i had the same reaction. i thought, in many ways, she did better on cross, because you got a better sense of her as a person. and she was responding sort of naturally to questions that she didn't know what was coming up and she really got a sense of her and also i thought how smart. exactly. you know, the sort of assumption, as you said, are ones that are sort of, i sort of found myself checking myself saying why am i so surprised? i should not have been. so laura, so one of the more unusual aspects of this case was how it ended with bob castillo being called by the defense. >> i did not see that coming. lisa always thought they would call him. i thought they wouldn't do it. >> i am with you. one of the reasons i'm with you is that bob castillo, if you remember, was somebody who donald trump said before this case was indicted, that he wanted the grand jurors to hear from you that well, okay, that is a really stupid move because it is never going to stop the grand jury from indicting, you just revealed something to the prosecution. and as a defense lawyer, one of the things you have, sometimes almost the only thing you have is surprised. and so here they sort of, it was flopped out to the prosecution a year ago. so obviously, the call record here does give some flavor to castillo. >> i don't know if he explains the clearing of the courtroom and how dramatic it was to be in the room with the judge who was so fired up. i thought he was going to throw him behind bars. so bob castillo gets on the stand and right away, he is combative, he is aggressive. he is rolling his eyes, he is muttering audibly. >> could you hear it? >> i am in the courtroom, lighting up the chat like, guys, this is going off the rails fast, okay? we had a sense it was going south but i didn't know it was going to go as south as it did. >> in the overflow, by the way. >> you are also communicating to your colleagues? >> we sort of have a bizarre pony express situation now. allow do some electronics not also we can use our phones in the physical courtroom because i think there's a concern that somebody is going to mess up and tape it, even though we had been admonished not to but we can use our laptops. and so we can send messages by email, by slack, by dm but we can't use our phones. so in the chat, we are all sitting color from the courtroom about what we are observing, that tone, about how things are going. i often just focus on the jury is i'm very interested in what they're picking up on. right away, the jury is looking at each other like something is about to go down here. so it had been a sleepy morning. everybody was sort of feeling monday, all of its glory. and then bob castillo get on the stand in the afternoon and we are off to the races. so because he was so, i think, contemptuous of the judge and the process and did not like being interrupted this is a federal prosecutor who really felt like he should be respected and he thought susan hoffinger, the prosecutor, was telling him in a way that he didn't like and he didn't like interrupted when she was objecting. most of those objections were sustained. so in the room, the tension is boiling, okay? and finally, the judge sends the jury out. i go oh god, here we go. but then, robert costello is giving it back to the judge, and the judge got so upset he clears the courtroom from the press, which is highly unusual, okay? usually, there's a security situation, that is one thing. this was not that. the judge was fired up and i think he was worried about what he might say and so he clears the courtroom for only a few minutes, we should make that clear. it wasn't long. we all come back in and he is still kind of rolling his eyes for the remainder of the afternoon. >> there is a period, the period where everyone gets out of the courtroom other than, you have honestly the defense team, on the prosecution table. but then the public and the press are out of the room. >> not all of them. >> that is what i was going to say. so it is really interesting because i think as we mentioned, the first two rows, which were sort of friends of, like bride and groom. they are still there. but this is what, all of us have to go through, the cold record. >> it is chaotic. the media is screaming we have a right to be here. our media lawyers trying to object. the court officers are having none of it. everybody is ushered in. thank you, the judge to make a record of what happened. so in a couple of hours we also the transcript, we know what happened. in the moment, we all were sent out but obviously should not have happened. >> this legal panel the state put four more of our excellent discussion. but first, you could feel the tension in the courtroom when trump's one-time fixer, michael cohen, took the stand and came face-to-face with his ex-boss for the first time in years. he was like sammy groove on a and he just skillet and can weigh, a long line of under links flipping on their bosses. after the break, our team gives us their first-hand account of what that moment was like. >> the first moment when trump's lawyer, todd blanche, gets up and asked cohen, did you call me a little crying [ bleep ] or whatever it was, and the judge immediately instructs them to approach as the d.a.s office raises an objection. everyone was talking about that. 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[whoosh] ♪ trains that sense what isn't on the schedule. ♪ trains that use the power of dell ai and intel. ♪ to see hundreds of miles of tracks. ♪ [vroom] [train horn] [buzz] clearing the way, [whoosh] so you arrive exactly where you belong. once the testimony from stormy daniels was over, we didn't have to wait long before the next very dramatic testimony , michael cohen, trumps former fixer and loyal attack dog. now a star witness for the prosecution. and his testimony placed the former president at the center of this alleged criminal scheme. so what was it like in person? what was it like when michael cohen saw his old boss for the first time in years? and what was it like to witness the showdown between cohen and trumps defense lawyers? during what turned out to be just a brutal cross examination ? let's go back inside the courtroom with our msnbc and nbc colleagues. >> the jury has been waiting for this moment as long as we have. it is highly anticipated. they have come face-to-face before in the civil fraud trial, but this is criminal this is different. and he is the only one who can tie donald trump directly to this crime. he is the linchpin of the prosecutor's case and he has given up the goods. he has put him from trump tower to the oval office in a way that nobody else can. >> there's a few moments that really stood out. the first moment wins trumps lawyer, todd blanche gets up and asks cohen, did you call me a little crying [ bleep ]? the judge immediately instructs him to approach, as the d.a.s office raises an objection. everyone was talking about that. everybody was talking about how strange way for blanche to open up the proceedings. >> when you prosecute cases whenever but he has her hands dirty. that was michael cohen of the time when he was working for donald trump and doing these things for him, it always, always captivates and captures the interest of the jury when they hear from the fixer, when they hear from the henchman, when they hear from the guys that did the dirty work for the kingpin. >> i did not notice any interaction between the former president and michael cohen. but i did notice how closely michael cohen is making i can't with the jury, especially when he is describing some of the most emotional parts of the story. when he is describing his come to jesus moment when why he decided he is going to choose his family over donald trump >> i think cohen was successful in maintaining control over his own demeanor. he did not get agitated. he did not act out. there were times where he got short or little snippy but mostly maintained the kind of equilibrium throughout that i think was probably helpful with the jury. >> i think he did do a pretty good job of humanizing himself look, there are many people on the jury that will never know a person whose loyalty to an accused criminal defendant was as extensive as michael cohen's was by his own admission. of course, michael cohen is a person who pled guilty on two different occasions to a panoply of federal crimes. one of the federal judges called it a smorgasbord of crime. i think you humanized himself? yes. i think it is necessarily relatable? not quite. but he doesn't have to be a person that they want to have a beer with. >> these are some the most stunning days in court when michael cohen finally took the stand. as the piece mentioned, the jury seemed to have been waiting for that moment as long as the journalist in the room had. but being there, in person, there's some really noticeable differences between the michael cohen we have gotten to know on cable news shows or maybe his podcast versus who we saw testifying. his demeanor, how he sounded i will have to say, i posted a double take when the defense played a clip of cohen from his podcast, when you heard his voice from the podcast, and compare that to what you had heard from the stand over the last day. in that contrast is something that can play very well for the defense in summation to argue there are really two michael cohen's katie, lisa, and laura are back with us. i wanted to ask about that issue of how you thought his very polite, unflappable, even killed demeanor. >> solemn. >> which, in many ways, is what you want a witness to be. i thought that played given that they did see this other piece, they actually heard his voice and he also was describing the way he behaved in bullying people and acting as, a phrase that i hate but i'm going to use, as sort of trumps pitbull. >> he has done that the moment is coming for a long time, for anybody getting up there, it is rattling and he kept his cool, even when things got thrown his way that he was not prepared for and that were a surprise and made him look like a liar. >> even he was crossed at some point about his information about his wife and his child. that i thought oh, okay, what is going to happen, i was waiting for fireworks. >> but they didn't come, he kept a calm, and i think that he came off as, on the stand, sort of hat in hand on his. there were times where i felt like he was sort of resisting in terms of like, well, that doesn't play alive. i thought just tell them, of course, just own it. you have already come this far. they heard two on the podcast talking about revenge is a dish best served cold. let's lay it all out there and they won't punish you for it. the jury think you're being authentic. even if what you said is horrendous, right? jurors are like drug dealers and they think they are being honest, they have to come off as authentic. so i'm surprised there were times where there was like, you could feel that resistance. >> katie, wanted to talk to you about juan merchan, the judge overseeing this. full disclosure, i now have a man crush on him. i just think he is just a spectacular judge. the first thing when i went to court, the very first time, i was struck by his voice and we have all been in court, we have seen judges and seen judges who can't control a courtroom. we have seen judges who control a courtroom by raising their voice and through histrionics and hear, he controlled the courtroom by being the adults in the room and had such a calm judicial temperament. and i just felt like he wasn't going to tolerate and he expected everyone to behave properly. it was just, i thought, sort of remarkable. that is sort of my view. don't let me influence you. how do you think he did? this is the first ever trial of a current or former president, enormous pressures, enormous claims of violations of the gag order that he found 10 times and a lot of novel legal issues to deal with, how did you think he did managing this case? >> we have been inside courtrooms, in front of judges, very high-stakes cases, the one thing that we know is the person who is gatekeeping everything is the judge, right? and to laura's point that she made earlier, the jury looks to the judge, sometimes as a paternal figure or a maternal figure or somebody who is going to be there to kind of guide us through this process, which can be confusing it can be mazelike for some people. the thing about donald trump is he has introduced us to different judges, right? we have seen the brett kavanaugh's of the world, and his demeanor during a confirmation hearing. we have also seen justice arthur engoron through the civil fraud trial. we have seen judge kaplan from federal court for e. jean carroll's trials. we have seen different judges. the thing that i think is so, so poor in terms of america not being able to know judge merchan is not being able to see and hear him because he is measured and he is calm, even in the face of all the scrutiny and all these complex legal issues. why? because this man came to the united states, he immigrated at the age of six from columbia. he is one of six children. he was washing dishes. he went to school. you know, he graduated at the first member of his family to go to college. he lived in queens. he worked at the new york d.a.s office, and the new york state attorney general's office and has been a judge since 2006. if there is anyone who isn't, i beg you, find somebody else that is not more new york than judge juan merchan. a lot of new york are, when you think about donald trump having a jury of his peers in this trial, but having a man like judge or sean who is overseeing just the personalities, right? and having to be able to manage that. he has done a fantastic job and i think it is just not good that we haven't been able to see that in terms of on video. >> i love your response, because donald trump has attacked this judge, is not the first time he has attacked judges because, as donald trump says, he is unfair because of where he comes from, to quote. we all know what that means. and your answer tells us exactly where this judge came from and there will be controversy from this trial, one side or the other, in every trial, one side is disappointed or not, as to what happened. and the fact that we were all there, inside the court, i think we can all agree. this is such a fair trial, and such a fair process because of the judge, there are really good lawyers on both sides. whatever was happening, it is not because the process isn't working. again, it is really important, and i think the judge is primarily responsible for that. so, all right, we're not the only ones consumed by this trial. our viewers also have a lot of questions, we'll answer a few of them. you're watching prosecuting donald trump, witness to history. ya know, if you were cashbacking you could earn on everything with just one card. chase freedom unlimited. so, if you're off the racking... ...or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack. switch to a king suite- or book a silent retreat. silent retreat? 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[ bird squawks loudly ] to a pet shop. meg's moving company uses t-mobile. so she scaled down her fleet to save money. and don's paying so much for at&t, he's been waiting to update his equipment! there's a smarter way to save. comcast business mobile. you could save up to 70% on your wireless bill. so you don't have to compromise. powering smarter savings. powering possibilities. welcome back to prosecuting donald trump a witness to history. a special report on in person, in the courtroom reporting of the first ever criminal trial of an american president. over the last 50 minutes or so, we have given you an inside look at the trial through the eyes of our msnbc team . but we know that you have lots of questions about what you saw over the last several weeks here is andrew wiseman and our legal panel. >> jakes, rachel. let's get right to your questions so meritor from new jersey asks, the gap city courthouse, why were special accommodations made for trump and his allies? i know you have been very fixed on the last part of his allies. for example, he was allowed to rent and against the judicial system in others and lie blatantly, and his son and allies were allowed to keep their phones while in court. so, why was that? >> i will give you what i think is the only reasonable argument for it, and then stipulate that it has been abused and wildly so. i think the legitimate reason is for his own security. these are arrangements that are made between the court, the nypd and the secret service. for example, trump enters through a separate entrance to the courthouse. there is a street that is blocked off for his motorcade to approach that entrance. these separate elevators, he's got his own holding rooms. when he appears for the press conferences, he comes through a set of darkened glass doors beyond which are those holding rooms however, there are some things that are going on here that definitely have been abused. the first of which is the reserved seats those are supposed to be for extra members of his defense team, and that is the way that the d.a.s office has used their side of the drive side, as you said earlier. in trump's case, he is using it for sort of rotating surrogate operation. and those surrogates not only have their phones, but they are tweeting from the courtroom. we can prove that they are tweeting from the courtroom, timestamps on their tweets or truth social post, and there often doing it to circumvent the gag order, which one of them admitted on another media outlet last week. there are some special arrangements here, that should have been made for former president security and yet they have been rampantly abused by him and his friend. >> including the group of people from congress wearing sort of identical uniforms, sort of mini me's of the former president. i should note, all former presidents are given secret service. donald trump has not been treated differently. >> from the netherlands, she asks, is the decision of the jury final? well, welcome to gain a panel of lawyers. this is the kind of question where, his lawyers don't have a great name, which is it depends. but here is like a one key answer if there is a conviction , that is something that can be appealed on the law. if there are legal mistakes that were made. the jury was instructed improperly on the law, is evidence was kept out that was material, improperly. those kinds of things can be appealed and it can take quite some time. so there is recourse there. so it's really complicated. let me just say, thank you so much to our incredible team. it is really great to be here, nerdy out with lawyers and all of us having been in the courtroom. thanks so much for your perception and insight and personal stories. and thank all of you for spending the last hour with us. if you can't get enough trump news, and you want to take even deeper, try the msnbc podcast, hosted by mary mccord and me. have a