That is what we want. We are talking about how we tackle poverty and tackling schools and education underachievement is lionel to the life of our children. Mr. Speaker, can i ask the Prime Minister he has not answered the question. Can the Prime Minister assure the people of my constituency that an elected mp will not be given minority seating in dundee and moreover, does he [shouting] spill we are very grateful because he has had a very clear answer but maybe the snp dont like this answer but the proposal that we discussed at great length in the last parliament for solving this issue now be introduced. They key point i would make is that if in some future parliament theres disagreement between english mps who want one thing and the house of commons as a whole that was another thing, they would have to be away on resolving this deadlock. This is effectively a block for english mps. It is not the ability to legislate in willynilly, he should know that if you read the manifesto. Does the Prime Minister to comfortable that a conservative and has integrated expanding target on port eight but would not commit to a target of a minimum of 2 of gdp on defense . Does he realize this is damaging the relationship with the United States and ripping our credibility with nato. What i want to say to my friend who cares deeply about this issue and has some of the most important defense manufacturers in our country is that we have met that 2 target and that is in a European Union were many countries dont meet a 1 amount for investing in defense. The commitment we have made is to invest 160 billion pounds in 10 years in to our and program with increases every year and that is why we can say the aircraft carriers, c17, all will becoming forward. We will make final spending decisions in the review this autumn. For a man who is seemingly never away from europe, why is it that he is never taken the opportunity when he has been there to put in a claim first date aid to save british miners jobs turkey is the man who, during the Election Campaign masqueraded as the workers champion andy hasnt got the guts to help those minors. He took 700 Million Pounds out of the Pension Scheme and he has not given a penny back. No wonder they call him [shouting] order, order. [shouting] order. [shouting] very good to see the labour party in full voice cheering on jurassic park. [laughter] i would stick to the movie. Theres a serious point of this government has offered 20 Million Pounds to the owners of hatfield to keep that going. So we have been prepared to put forward money and unlike the last government weve been prepared to make ministerial direction because we got some courage when it comes to these things. [shouting] order. The house most dear mr. Goldsmith. There is a strong sense that the Airport Commission with the conclusion and then spent 20 Million Pounds backing up that conclusion the Prime Minister will have to make a decision on the back of his recommendations but what assurances can he give the millions of londoners who stand to be affected by heathrow expansion . Let me pay tribute to the honorable gentleman or how strong he campaigned on this issue. I know how strongly he cares about it and how his constituents feel about it. The promise i can give him is a thorough report that landed on my desk yesterday. This really does matter. If you make some decision old rule out one particular option, you actually make the decision you would like to make impossible to achieve because of judicial review. We may not like that but those are the facts and those the ones we need to operate on. The northern cell phone nhs health trust is refusing to publish socalled alexander report into its operation to the report which id seen raises serious questions about Patient Safety and care due to cuts to services. Does the Prime Minister agree that the duty should apply equally to nhs management as it does to nhs frontline staff . First of all that let me welcome the honorable gentleman to this house. I make no apology for the rigorous inspection regime which identified areas that need improvement. I would argue that two things we need is to uncover that practice and turn it around but didnt get back that up with the resources that the nhs needs including those recommended by the staving splinter as things stand its only this party that is backing an extra 8 Million Pounds into the nhs and not the party opposite. Order. [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] announcer on the next washington journal, David Wasserman talks about congressional districts being drawn by independent commissions. Also, Richard Norton smith on president obamas legacy in light of recent events. And a look at what the government and the private sector are doing to address distracted try doing and other safety issues with National SafetyCouncil President and ceo debra hurston. Plus, we take your calls. Beginning life at 7 00 eastern on cspan. Announcer monday night on the communicators, we visited a Technology Fair on capitol hill to hear what policy issues Technology Innovators want to discuss with congress. We spoke with yelp, one web qualcomm, and several others. Last chance for Public Participation and so that is basically one at this us owner does not like a review of their business and says, i am going to sue you. They may actually go forward with it but you as a user knows you are the little guy and you might not have the money to go to court over what you wrote about a chinese Food Restaurant or that car mechanic so instead of doing that, you just take off your review. While yelp is protected because of section 200 30, what we are worried about is the chilling affect and that those types that has on experiences. [indiscernible] there are lot of regulatory items we have to address. Also to express the mission, to bring affordable Internet Access to the masses and also be able to provide services of public safety, military government uses none government uses to benefit the population in general. Wireless is very different than wire line so our hope would be that wireless would be treated differently in terms of Net Neutrality recognizing it is a scarce resource and so it is not exactly the same as data flowing over a fiber network, i think the wireless people need to do carefully with this information. Announcer monday night, on cspan2. The communicators. Announcer next, a conversation with gary hart and walter mondale. They talk about the work on the Church Committee which was established by congress in 1975 to oversee intelligence operations. From the Brennan Center for justice, this is one hour and 20 minutes. Good morning, everyone. Thank you so much for coming. My name is mike german, im a fellow with the Brennan Center for justice at New York University law school. I welcome you to todays symposium on strengthening intelligence oversight. This year marks the 40th anniversary of the creation of the Senate Select committee to start to study governmental operations with respect to intelligence activities, more simply known as the Church Committee after its chairman Senator Frank Church. It was the first and only comprehensive investigation of secret intelligence activities within the United States. This is one of a series of activities the Brennan Center has undertaken to recognize this anniversary. We published a report called whats wrong with the fisa court, written by our codirectors. They will be leading a panel two panels this amp on judicial and executive Branch Oversight of intelligence activities. We also published a report on strengthening congressional oversight signed by 18 Church Committee staffers, many of whom are in the room with us today, and youll notice that they have name tags on. So feel free to talk to them throughout the day. It also contains a forward written by two Church Committee members. The senator from minnesota and thenVice President walter mondale, and senator gary hart of colorado. Finally, the Brennan Center chief counsel, rich schwartz who was chief counsel of the Church Committee has written a new book called democracy in the dark the seduction of government secrecy. The purpose of todays symposium is to examine how the intelligence reforms studented as a result of the Church Committee investigation 40 years ago have fared and how they might be improved. When the Church Committee issued its report, it warned that its recommendations for reform would be tested over time and that new National Security threats would arise that could be used to justify new departures from American Values in the rule of law. And so we have it that chaos and cointel pro and shamrock and minaret were replaced by stellar wind and x key score, by talon and the fusion centers, by black sites and enhanced interrogation techniques. Were hoping that a new generation of intelligence overseers can benefit from the wisdom generated from the Church Committee investigation and be inspired by the decades of Public Service our guests have dedicated to strengthening our democracy. Its my honor and privilege to welcome Vice President walter mondale, senator gary hart and Brennan Center counsel rich schwartz. [applause] thank you. Thanks, everyone, for being here. I thought that id like to start by kind of knocking down some of the myths, and one of them that i think was persistent during my time in the government as an fbi agent was that the Church Committee investigation took place during a period of tranquility and that in our Current Situation the threat is so high that we should put off any kind of comprehensive investigation so as not to distract those who are working to protect us from their important mission. But here are just a few of the things that were going on. The United States army had withdrawn from vietnam and the north Vietnamese Army started its final assault on saigon. The ca myrrh rouge took over in cambodia. The king of saudi arabia was assassinated. The red brigades Red Army Faction and Japanese Red Army engaged in bombings throughout europe, the middle east, ira and the volunteer force were killing dozens in Northern Ireland and britain. A twa flight was bombed from tel aviv to jfk killing 88 people. Cia station chief Richard Welch was assassinated, two fbi agents were killed at pine ridge indian reservation, a bombing of croatian nationalists at Laguardia Airport killed 11 people, and a bombing in downtown [inaudible] and so with this dynamic threat environment going on, how is it possible that the investigation began, Vice President mondale, why was it necessary, and why did you want to be a part of it . I think you begin by looking at seymour hirshs story, got an explosive headline in the New York Times that contained the list of abuses and dysfunction in the intelligence agencies, a list made up by the agency itself that had leaked and told the nation that we were really in trouble. And if you look at these problems that youve cited, one of the reasons why we had to reform and make the agencies more responsive was in order to deal with the threats that were apparent to the security of our nation. And i would say that there was a general agreement to to that. I remember i was on the floor when john pastorly stood up and moved the creation of what is now known as the Church Committee on the grounds that this couldnt continue. Im convinced that Mike Mansfield saw right away that this had to be dealt with. So i think what we did could be explained because it helped prevent symptom of the abuse some of the abuses in the past some of the mistakes of the past that cost us dearly but also because we had to straighten this out. And only an outside committee within the control of the senate could do it. And why did you want to be on it . Wow. [laughter] well, you know, i had followed this stuff as a senator. I had been attorney general in my state. Id dealt with some of these issues. I sensed that something was really wrong without being in on the inside, and when i heard john give that speech, i went to mansfield, and i said when youre setting this committee up, would you look at me . And he said, yeah, i will, senator. Great. And, senator hart, you were a freshman senator, only three weeks on the job at that point. How did you handle this kind of and given a prominent role as well as a drafter, primary drafter of the report. How did you handle that kind of responsibility so quickly . Well, i was not only a freshman senator, it was my first month in the senate, and i had barely met the other senators by this time. The answer to your first question is, why do it now, is why hadnt we done it before . First article of the constitution requires the congress of the United States to oversee the operations of executive branch. All of them. It does not exempt National Security. And from 1947 and the passage of the National Security act, beginning of the creation of whats been called the National Security state which then incorporated this began to incorporate cia and expand very, very rapidly, there had been not only virtually, but had been no congressional oversight. So historically the question is between 1947 and 1975 why hadnt Congress Done its work . And we could spend a profitable hour discussing how most members of congress didnt want to know in fact, said senior members of the senate had sate i dont want to know. Well, thats not what the constitution says. You have to, you have to know whether you want to or not. So this was all overdue. And what did that experience teach you as a young senator about how the Government Works . [laughter] well, i still tell student audiences that im the last islist. So when idealist, so when im gone, there are no more. [laughter] and it was a hugely disillusioning experience, i would say particularly not just the surveillance that went on under particularly the previous administration, but what came to be or what we discovered as the assassination plots. And then even worse, the use by the cia of the mafia to carry out or try to carry out those plots against fidel castro. Well, this opened up so many dark currents under our government. I characterize it as a sewer under the city on a hill. And for a 37yearold firstterm, firstyear senator this was a great disillusionment. But i think what in a way the work of the committee and a willingness on a bipartisan basis to make fundamental changes in the broadlydefined intelligence sector was a triumph of democracy. And a tribute to the 11 members of that committee and probably one of the best congressional staffs thats ever been put together in the history of the republic. And, fritz, you were the chief counsel of that staff. But you didnt have any intelligence background when you were asked to do that job. How did you gain the trust of the intelligence agencies . Well, how did we, and i dont think im very important in that. But we got it by, first, being determined. That was absolutely necessary, and senator mondale had a great remark in which he said, you know, well just get extensions so they cant outlast us, and then showing the bipartisan nature of the committee, john tower said Something Like hallelujah, god bless you or Something Like that. And then also, so in addition to being determined, show that you can reliably handle secrets, because there are legitimate secrets. And i think our committee did that extraordinarily well. We had, essentially, no leaks. And we made reasonable agreements with the executive branch about keeping certain things, keeping secrets. And in contrast, the House Committee foundered and faltered and failed because they never were able to reach those refused to reach those accommodations with the government. And,