Deputy editor of roll call newspaper. We found out this week and Speaker Pelosi once a fourth stimulus bill move any matter of weeks on capitol hill . How has that been received by the white house and Republican Leaders in the senate . So, they have been talking about a fourth stimulus package and trading bit, ideas about what might be in such a package. Even Mitch Mcconnell, who is typically one of Nancy Pelosis antagonists said before they even passed the third stimulus that they would need fourth one. , mccarthy and mcconnell have said, we want to thatow this third package they passed recently and the president signed late in march, see how it is being of lemonade. But right off the bat, we are been we have been hearing from Small Businesses that almost 350 billion in the last stimulus is not enough to keep them afloat. Anyone from restaurants to bookstores to anything like that, you know, blood difficulty making payroll and paying pipos insurance and so forth and paying Peoples Insurance and so forth, so they say they need to double that in the next stimulus. The speaker floated ideas last week with her own colleagues about whether or not they wanted to do a stimulus an infrastructure package in this neck stimulus package. The president himself said we should go big and spend up to 2 trillion of infrastructure. Infrastructure is one of those things that gets brought up every once in a while, and has become a signal that we will have a weird week. It seemed like the president wanted to do it on a speaker wanted to do it. The republican said, lets focus on Health Care Workers and some of those things. Right now, the speaker sent on a letter over the weekend in which she set the next round be focused on Small Businesses and healthcare workers, in particular, so it is still taking shape. Both chambers of Congress Said they wont be back here until april 20, unless something extraordinary requires them to be back in washington. They got a little bit of time to trade these things back and forth. Host a story from roll call some of the leverage and lobbying efforts. Lindsey mcpherson, one of your the state request more assistance, probably the biggest leverage for a stage four stimulus, according to pelosi. Talk to us about what governors and mayors are doing and the bottom up lobbying campaign here. Guest because the president and his task force are doing these great things every day, talking about cdc guidelines, it seems like they are the ones directing most of the response, and that is simply not true. Mayors, governors, county executives these other the people directing responses, including from the national guard. You know . It is governors activating their ational guards to serve these testing sites in hospitals and so forth. Members of congress have responded to that. They are quickly running out of money. A lot of states and cities cannot run extended testing the way the federal government can. They will need help pretty quickly. If they see First Responders get sick and they have to do it particularly in Public Hospitals and areas on the front lines. Cities like new york obviously have been at the epicenter of this, and we have seen the kind of response that andrew cuomo, the governor of new york, has coordinated, for not just his city, new york city, but the rest of the state, too. Distinct these two regions, of state and the city, but he has to coordinate all of this stuff at once in the middle of it, being at the epicenter. Same thing with new jersey. So these governors and mayors were dealing with quarantine and sort of lockdowns and so forth, they are the ones who are going to Pressure Congress and the white house the most. Host jason dick joining us from his home. Covering it all for capitol hill for roll call. Can gol. Com is where you to see all of his work. We found out last week that nancy pelosi wants and select committee overseeing coronavirus response. It would be headed she wants my congressman James Clyburn of south carolina. Charisma cliburn was on state of the Union Yesterday and talked about the roll James Clyburn was on state of the Union Yesterday and talked about this. This committee will be four tolooking. We will not be looking back forward this committee will be forward looking. We will not be looking back. The American People are now out of work. Millions are out of work. The question is whether or not the money appropriated will go to support them and their families, or this money end up in the pockets of a few profiteers . That is what i understand we are to do. Patterning this i spent the weekend looking deeply into this committee and what has happened since march 1, 1941, when it will stood up and stayed up for five years, and was proved to be very, very successful, and i am trying to base my work on this committee on the history with the work of that committee. Host James Clyburn on cnn yesterday. What does it take for Committee Like that to get up and running, and what is been the reaction since nancy pelosi unveiled the program last week . From thee reaction leadership one of the reasons nancy pelosi one jim clyburn to lead the committee is he is one of the people who commands a lot of mutual respect. Have beenpublicans skeptical about the need for a select committee to look into pandemics and stimulus spending. As jim clyburn was saying on cnn, he also spoke on a special report podcast on friday. He said this is about making sure that people spend this money wisely. Not just taxpayer money expenses. This could be the differs between life and death for people. We model this or the Truman Committee over world war ii. Kevin mccarthy and other republicans have said, they dont think this is necessary and it seems redundant. There is oversight authorities that are baked into the last stimulus package in phase three. That is, including that is including a special Inspector General for the spinning that the president has nominated. For the spending that the president the spinning that the president has nominated. Spending that the president has nominated. There to be redundancies. I asked the majority whip about this. He said that you got to remember, the day the president signed the legislation, he issued a signing statement that said, he was going to feel free to ignore some of those oversight requirements, such as the Inspector General sharing with congress. Consistentt of a conflict between administration and congress, and i think it seems what nancy pelosi and democrats want is that they want to be able to say, no. When the president doesnt let the, inc. Drive on the bill let the spell smart when the president doesnt let the ink dry, they want to make sure the money is being spent wisely on the people who needed them most. It has, to typical partisanship, but that feels like a partisan reaction. I believe this will get through. You do need a vote to stand up a committee. That being said, they will not be back until april 20 in the house and senate. Will get its way like with the stimulus spending. It seems like a long time ago. It was only last week or two weeks ago, not quite two weeks ago, that the house loaded the house voted. One of the members did not want to use unanimous consent to pass that third package. They will eventually get this, but they do need to vote on it, but that does not mean some of the groundwork cannot be started, and i am thinking the speaker has plenty of ideas about how to start some of that. Host jason dick to take your phone calls via zoom this morning. That is how he is joining us, and you can maybe ask about some of the bugs some of the books on the crowded shelf behind them. You can in time zones, 2027488000. Mountain or pacific time zones, 2027488001. Donald from michigan, go ahead. Goder good morning, and bless everyone on the front lines battling this covid19 disease. Thank you all. I would like to say to these inublican callers, calling donald trump has done a good job on this corona. You have your head in the sand. He had three knots back in. Anuary he did nothing. One more thing i would like to that you in symptoms are now central amount time. I dont like that. You need to get back to the republicans and democrats and independents line. One more quick thing. On Donald Trumps bills, it amazes me how republicans never 1 any tax breaks for the that they did not get the passes, but we got legislation for the working poor and people trying to survive through the epidemic, they want debate, debate, debate. Lets get this country back going and get rid of donald trump in 2020. God bless them america. Host that is donald in michigan. I will take the comment on the phone lines. Jason dick, what would you like to say . Guest the way the debate is taking place, with the last stimulus package, there were enough negotiations going on behind the scenes that that is where the debate was really happening, which is frequently done, but it also produced, you know, overwhelming margins of approval. And in thesenate house, they were able to use a voice vote to pass a, so it seems like vote to pass it, so it seems like times are top are these are difficult times we are going through so see like times are tough. These are difficult times we are going through. This is an institution that has difficulty passing spending bill sometimes, and has for decades. So, to appropriate more than 2 trillion in a matter of weeks is a really big deal. Yet i yet there are things they will need to fix with the stimulus packages, but the fact they are full steam ahead in working on this, something that i have not seen in a long time, certainly, if you go back to 9 11, and some other responses, and even then, were talking about the effect this pandemic it has been having that theyre trying to address. Host this is john from iowa. Good morning. Guest good morning. Host go ahead, john. You are on was jason dick. Guest i have two questions. The first one is, if President Trump isnt going to make a federal mandate on this order, you know, to stay indoors, why isldnt andrew cuomo, who the governor of new york city, make it something in that situation where he could make the hospitals a biohazard zone so people can reuse reusable ppe instead of using the stuff im throwing it away . Why cant they be in those biohazard suits with changeable filters, and can save these doctors and nurses lives so we dont have a shortfall of doctors and nurses after this pandemic . , before jason dick jump sampodria wanted to let you know, what youre talking about dicktopic before jason jumps on my wanted to let you know that we will be tub about a topic about those zones. We will be joined by scott burris from Temple University specifically on that topic, but jason dick, if there is anything you want to jump in on or congressional angle . Version think the first they see with people saying, why cant they do more for these quarantined zone . I dont know emergency power things. One of the issues we are dealing with with hospitals is they are being overwhelmed by covid19, but people are still having to come to the hospitals for other reasons. If you create these biohazard hospitals, it might prevent people who have gotten into a car accident, or got a heart attack or something likeated to coronavirus, you may impede their ability to get there. Ships,y these two naval one to new york, from los angeles have opened up because those hospital ships are designed to deal with people who are not infected with coronavirus. But it is difficult to stillness up as quickly as they are doing. Host when it comes to trying to keep people from gathering together, how close are we to remote voting in that building behind me . Is one chamber closer to that happening than the other . Guest no. It doesnt seem like it. Minutesajority leader Mitch Mcconnell and nancy pelosi both same really opposed both seemed very opposed. She had her rules committee chairman, jim mcgovern study the issue and came up with several options that would allow them to vote. None of them included doing what we are doing right now, where people would zoom in or do a google hang out, and signal their vote at a clerk would record it. It seems like the speaker is really trying to avoid going into these remote voting things. Their constitutional issues. There are constitutional issues. Mcconnell has an easier time dealing with the social distance issues with only 100 senators, but it is difficult. He could get people in and out of his chamber a lot faster and safer than 435 people in the house. But it doesnt seem like we are anywhere close, even though it is becoming essential way she re they may need to, and even though it is becoming a situation where they need to. We are dealing with an issue that we should have been prepared for. We are not, but that does not mean we cannot be prepared going forward. Host westport, massachusetts. This is greg. Good morning. Caller cover you doing . How are you doing . What the democrats are doing in congress, why dont you tell the American People the reason why they are not there is because they are on a vacationpaid holiday . A taxpayerpaid holiday. That is why they are not there because they are on vacation again. Host jason dick, want to talk about what members are doing right now . Guest members have left washington. They are on an extended recess. I would not quibble with the idea of this is a vacation when members are not in washington, theyre dealing with constituents and issues that come up and issues that come up in their state as well. Most members of congress, when they are not in washington, they are still working with local officials, working with constituents. I would respectfully disagree that it is a taxpayerfunded vacation. It is also a matter of where do you want members of congress in this sort of emergency . Do you want them all in one home at the capital, or at where they can be more into other people they represent . Dealing an issue with everybody is working remotely in washington. Members of congress are arguably more at risk of contracting the virus and spreading it, particularly if they keep their staff there. The white house is a little withrent, much smaller fewer people who work in the white house than in the capital, which is why you see the president and his Briefing Room every day, but they are being careful with about who gets into the gates of the white house. They are doing to protect for every person who comes to work in that setting. There are fewer reporters even allowed into the Briefing Room because they need to respect social distance. Uniquein an incredibly time, and i am the first one to sort of, you know, kinda be skeptical about congress when they say they are working hard on something, but in this case, to the evidence is, they are, and it is also important to point out, too, the democrats only control one chamber, the house. The republicans are in charge of the senate, but they are both out of town. To thebeen dashed callers point, to the callers point it was a decision by both parties. Host roll call is one of the news organizations that is usually in those briefings when everyone is allowed in the Briefing Room. In this new rotation, how often do you get your reporter in the room . Guest we are in there once a week or once every nine days, depending on the rotation and who else is showing up. Share a seat we with the regional reporters. Ity have their own pool, so depends on where they are in the rotation. It is been more often because they have been doing a briefing every day now, including saturdays and sundays. We have been showing up more. We were there on thursday. Our next showing his thursday or friday. Host what you have tried to do is not only covering the story of coronavirus, but covering the coverage of the story of coronavirus. This being a different moment in journalism. Kids talk through that a little bit . Can you talk through that a little bit . Guest one of the things we cover in the hall of the congress is how the place runs, right . One of the ways the place runs is through this in a sergeant at arms in the house sergeant at arms and the chief Administrative Officers. You know, this is where we get our workspace. Those offices are the one to help coordinate where the press can go, what the rules of engagement with the present members of congress are. Through withwent the white house particles are for press coverage. It is different in congress, and i think that shows what the nature of the institution itself. There isnt a formalized system of keeping people away from the capital, or temperature checks or things like that. One of the things that we have been interested in and covering it is how we make sure people are safe . How do we make sure things are covered, but people are also not at risk of contracting the virus . And so, we have covered excuse me we have covered how the sergeant at arms and the chief Administrative Officer governs where we can go, and the interaction between members of the press and those institutions. It has been interesting, like the way we had been on capitol hill is on capitol hill and the way we have covered it is to minimize risk we put a reporters and ourselves in. We have started these informal pools. It is not so institutionalized in congress. So are cooperating in a way that they really do. In no way they really do on capitol hill people are cooperating in a way that they rarely do on capitol hill. You know that, john. People are competing and they have a different piece of the puzzle. In this case, people are sharing information with their colleagues. One of my colleagues you mentioned earlier, linda mcpherson, she and another colleague were in the House Chamber when the house was debating that their stimulus package. What they did was they came up with a spreadsheet of members who were present and in the chamber, or around, and they shared that with their colleagues. That is normally that would be something align host cannot just roll call colleague . Guest not