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>> can you forgive the young man that shot the people in arizona. do you feel genuine forgiveness towards him? >> i may not right now but we have to get to the point. one thing that helped me and i try to help others. you have to walk in their shoes. i don't know where he came from. i don't know what his environment was. i can pretty much doubt that he had a good upbringing. most of these people we see in prison they didn't have upbringing like us. they lived out on streets. it's easier to have mercy when you think they didn't have a good shot. >> right now you find it hard to forgive him? >> just feel so bad for everything, and when i see him smiling i feel there's no remorse. >> there would be religious families involved in that horror and i can imagine they are going through a difficult thing. my grandmother said to me she renounced her faith because of the holocaust. she couldn't understand how a just god would allow that to happen. some of those families will be thinking where was my god when i needed him.

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