bankruptcy. by the way that is what happened with chrysler and g.m. the vice president is glossing over some of that. >> that has helped the obama campaign specifically in ohio because repeatedly the advertisements and michigan repeatedly saying that the romney campaign wanted detroit to go bankrupt. that has had resonance. once you get into the nuances of it it though it's not as -- >> some argue if that private money was available the auto makers could be in better shape today than they currently are the government owns $18 billion right now in g.m. >> by the way, we should say that the fact checkers did not think that paul ryan had a flawless night either. they took issue with. so things he said. particularly that gotcha moment where joe biden says why did you advocate for stimulus money for your constituents? you also act. >> you sent out grant letters for stimulus money so they brought that up as well. >> so interesting. there was some stuff on libyas a well that paul ryan had been fact checked on as well.
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