that's why everyone was talking income inequality. >> president obama says, nope, not under me, not really expanding. >> obviously you can't argue with the facts, eric. welfare spinning itself supplying 16%. you talk about food stamps is up over 100%. and unemployment up 85%. by the way, juan, just for the record, he's been there for five years now almost so you can't say this just happened -- you know, this just happened yesterday and this is george bush's fault and he inherited this. he inherited some of it. of course, he inherited some of it. the but this is of his doing hchl has not helped us one iota. >> let me just -- let me -- >> please -- >> you don't think he's lifting us out? >> let me bring this over to michelle and john. they did a study a year ago and they found that poor families of