learned about the allegations and the great ability of the allegations, within 40 minutes, he moved against porter. two campaign aides, who during the campaign were still in free and with the president went after kelly today. >> the general is there to put in policies and procedures. in this case, those didn't work. we need to find out why. >> this is an embarrassment for the white house. it's a setback for the president. >> chris: matt, how much trouble as kelly in? >> i think this is a damaging series of events. i think his first response to the charges did not do what karen said, which is connect to the fact that these are serious charges. i have to acknowledge that. you have to acknowledge there are certain charges. i do think it's incorrect to say that he knew before that time he said to me, which was sometime on tuesday. >> he says he's got some