With former whites will make fun of or lost their land in the ne 2003 years before. Also coming up on the program. Military or civilian all maybe a technocrat millions of still did need to lead the Transitional Team after yet another country transition to a stable civilian group. I. Your welcome to the program we start of in zimbabwe where im citee is growing among blacks they are worried about losing land that was on the catered to them by former president during his law before or during the time thousands of white farmers were forced of the lads in an effort to redress colonial era. Fast forward to earlier this year zimbabwean governments are now as there will be 3500000000. 00 in compensation to local white farmers but some black farmers see the move trucking on a policy that politicians have repeatedly meant was irreversible. Norman cheering has been anxious ever since the government announced it will return land that was taken from former white farmers during the land reform in the early 2000. And 4 to one others were located 60 head to plots at the 20000 head to forest state in the district of missouri about 100 kilometers north of zimbabwes capital harare this place has been their home for the past 20 years the farmers apprehensive and in view their move to compensate former white farmers is a reversal of former president Robert Mugabe and the reforms you know now we are anxious and it is painful to lose learned that we have settled we have been here for a long time and we cant contemplate going back to where we came from we cannot imagine starting again we have invested in this place and we cannot allow that energy in time to go to waste you know. This is when government sees a black farmers have nothing to worry about and that will thirtys i just implementing the law and not reversing the gains of the countries lieberson was known as the 1st and 2nd chimurenga this is not really. The Reform Program and was the prime cause for the for. The 1st 3 clinton Reform Program that we under him you know we wanted. To go to that aspect. According to a government state to the body proper assessments will be met before competition can be conceived that agriculture was once the big one of the economy but went into freefall after their whites kill grabbing land from white farmers black farmers who then took over their land often had lead to experience in commercial funny. Production it exporting farms in like this one in the northern part of zimbabwe could pick up even government efforts to mend relations with former white commercial farmers who lost their land in the ne 2000 years food Court Battles ahead ensued for the past 2 decades German National and reach one petzold lost part of his land at the forest he states in 2001 he is cautiously optimistic about the governments recent announcement. Challenges of his about when government and the International Center for settlement of investment disputes and won his case. Yet the government. It certainly did so i have a big 8. Groups there however. It will be a government only the. Youre looking. At zimbabwes government sees only 3 percent of those who received lent like nominated india will be affected by the new announcement. Our correspondents privileged machinery who sent us of reports joins me now from harare zimbabwe privileged why exactly are black farmers like norman worried about losing their lands to white farmers is that the governments position. Why are you stemming from the fact that these farmers or couponing land or farms that were initially. International by electoral agreement so according to the zimbabwe constitution it says that these land was and it was not supposed to be disturbed and other law its also sees thats a different matter that may have lost their land during the land Reform Program they are supposed to be compensated through either monetary or have their land returned back so these farmers like you terry because the athir in that probably did may lose this land that they had occupied since 2002000 back to their original or not as who are protected under the International Bilateral agreements that zimbabwe has with other countries youll be telling us a bit more about that because on the contrary over the weekend a white farmer alleges he was dreaming of his land by a block farm out whats going on here yes. Its quite a surprise because. And invasions and if the actions of white farmers had stopped but then this is coming as a surprise because these farmers being infected from the land they are saying that. One of. The former senior Government Official holds title to this land through the oil for litters that one is given when the up lightly and the government saw the disposition of approached their farmer. Over the weekend and say that you has your 24 hours to move out and he is now this is he is not with the new one so it is. Happening at a time when government is seeing. Their families that lost their land during the land Reform Program so its such a contradiction yeah which definitely makes it even more confusing because heres the thing the government does not have the 3500000000 dollars to compensate white farmers so it was raise funds from International Donors now how feasible is that when International Property rights are still being violated it mix the pew to the International Community to raise these 3500000000 it might want to ask because i think it is then going to be difficult for the government to be able to approach any fun when. In farms and that failure to respect International Provides right so it would be very difficult for the government to be able to. Maneuver and raise these 3500000000. 00 its needs to pay off their families that lost land during the lender of 4. 00 will be given tops on that privilege it was shown to review your correspondent in harare zimbabwe thank you for your time. Who will lead the Transitional Team in mali a civilian or soldier after 3 days of intensive talks in the capital thats the mixed reactions in response to echo us calling for a civilian led transition the west African Group set a deadline they wanted an interim president named by tuesday representatives of all Political Parties trade unions and Civil Society organizations about it temporary constitution but many questions remain unanswered. Long lines outside burma calls International Congress center its a final session everybody wants to be here for this special moment. I dont diminish you ladies and gentleman what you have achieved all of the hopes for a new democratic secular and prosperous molly based on work social justice and equality to get over this is to see if youre going to get on this note of hope i declare the National Consultation closest. To see that theres a consensus was. A moment to take stock after a hard and controversial discussions above all the question who will be the president during the transition period. Gundy they are going to do any candidate wanting to be transitional president or weiss president must meet the following conditions being a person from Civil Society all the military thats about it this year. Yet this statement flies in the face of the conditions set by the best african eco bus group it wants a civilian as a transitional president. I since 1901 a small group of men have dominated the in politics malise young people and most of the to rake in the last have little face that those individuals can bring any change in. This field as it must at the head of the transition should be from the military given the security situation only the army can handle this it could be the soldiers are the people on the ground and they know the field and i think it is. When we meet that. The country is divided mass demonstrations by the m 5 Opposition Movement most of the military coup on 18 stuff. August which forced the resignation of president cater by one set as chief their common goal mali in society is split into rival bickering groups them 5 movement is already refusing to accept that dream act he says you know what this is about the fact that the transitional president must be a civilian and nonmilitary individual otherwise hell be subjected to sanctions spite of us there are much more broken. Leaders from the regional bloc are due to discuss the paper to somebody in the gun i in capital acra on tuesday. Thats where we draw the curtains on todays show for more stories go check out our website do w dot com slash africa or visit our facebook and twitter pages as i mentioned at the start of the show. Hopeful they got to move forward despite the needs a school because it is the 4th such as the country actually of independence 60 years ago well see you next time i find out. Why dusty boots muddy tires and drums we deliver urgent lifesaving boxes we give our everything to reach those who need us the most every box of feeding their futures. Says for the hope of lifesaving food in the sun much more down the road with no names we feel asleep deliver relentless you know promise to make every delivery special. Not just next day but every day. Thousands of children are still waiting for their delivery sponsor a box today so together we can deliver the changes. What if the composer knew to be fun beethoven had never been born what would music be like today well my guest sarah well this went searching for answers to those questions sarah plays french horn with the berlin philharmonic but in the new documentary a World Without beethoven she meets up with musicians across shaun writes from scorpions guitarist wife shameka to jazz trumpeter Wynton Marsalis to the great film composer john well you know all of them ponder whether their own music would be possible if it werent for beethovens legacy the movie a World Without beethoven premieres this week here on you know. Its one of arts and culture thank you now you play and one of the worlds very top orchestras it has to be said so for you this idea of a World Without beethoven must sound like im nightmare but what about the average person on the street who might say it World Without of course i mean we know who beethoven was the musicians do most of your viewers do probably as well but if there are people out there who dont they still would probably know how to answer if i think they probably go so they do know beethoven although they may not think they do so of course as Wynton Marsalis says in the film he says there are people out there that dont know beethoven then they have a good life too but this is what this film is all about ok well lets check out a little bit more the movie a World Without beethoven premieres this wednesday here on c. W. And on amazon prime marking 250 years since the composers birth. Whats with the well be like cat beethoven never existed. A World Without beethoven i conti from begin to imagine. He probably spilled this coffee and accidently went all that sounds good without him there might never have been any of the legendary brokerage suite all know and love in a way his famous 5th symphony was a precursor he only needed 4 notes to create an entire musical cosmos. The rest is rock history. That also being no film schools without beethoven no chance in much of his work he experimented with syncopation to jazz trumpet player Wynton Marsalis thats all the proof we need that the german compose it was way ahead of his time. We didnt like that and. I love that. Its impossible to overstate beethovens legacy he influenced jazz pop film music concert performance political anthems conceptual music and even musical meter quite simply he changed the world forever. Were talking about the near d. W. Documentary a World Without beethoven now there are some people might be surprised to see were rock stars like an anderson from jethro tull and a movie about beethoven can you fill us in a little bit more on why well many say that beethoven wrote the 1st rock rest ever 4 notes yeah and well it can be interpreted maybe in those days you know beethovens a rock. As Wynton Marsalis a day to them he was the man. And a lot of a lot of rock guitarists and composers they dare to take just 4 notes for their rockers some of the most famous rock for a survey done done done done 4 notes and thats something that people didnt do before beethoven was around they absolutely did not they dont was it was totally new to them and he started a symphony with 4 notes in the minor key what a shock was that that hadnt happened for us its normal we know it but but in those days it was a bit of a shock and that that was what beethoven did he push boundaries and today there are stars who make so much money with just 34 notes rio for orchestra still has to play all the notes now film composer John Williams you know a lot of notes hes also in this documentary hes the guy behind movie scores including star wars. Jaws harry potter quite a big coup to get him on the movie and it wasnt planned but you ended up playing with him how did that happen well spotted as a tiny clip where the 4th quarter youre obviously recognized we were there interviewing him which as a horn player was a total career highlight and the boston pops are playing at tanglewood that night a big Music Festival in the states and one of their horns went sick and they called me up in you know is this is where you want to come play i didnt know half the stuff and john with his music is really difficult to play on the horn and it was so incredible to play to play John Williams under the battle of John Williams i mean it must have been like that in beethovens day to play beethovens 5th symphony under beethoven himself i mean thats probably how the home players felt then to see when their kind of as a journalist and ended up playing a game or a job ok weve got a clip of John Williams from a World Without beethoven lets check it out. 6 even the greatest modern day film composer makes clever use of beethoven formulas. As a movie goer i could not imagine a World WithoutJohn Williams and this is what were talking about today a World Without without beethoven its also impossible to imagine this hard to imagine what would life be like if wed never seen a rainbow you know in the 7th symphony in the 3rd movement. And then the trumpets. And many dont. And then it goes into the into the. Sure crazy just like you sure. When we saw your turn mark and weve always wondered if that was the precursor to the jewels the i think so i think i think theyd have been swimming. Sharks from the jaws he just turns up everywhere we are so lucky that beethoven survived to leave us all of his years ago and it really does sound like you can really hear that. Time totally beethoven based on what was that was the precursor to jaws i 100 percent believed in junk just have to take in your horns of the aquarium not yet but a very good idea i shall do that you dont sneak up on anyone especially not me when were at the aquarium ok so part one of a World Without beethoven is premiering this wednesday here on c. W. And if people want to see the whole thing they will they will want to see it and they can go this wednesday straight to amazon prime and check it out good on you guys for getting this finished during the middle of a pandemic i know it was installed but we got it finished and were very proud of it absolutely could and should be congratulations and thanks for coming on the show. And i could have imagined that beethovens 250th birthday anniversary this year would be celebrated with barely a concert even in the city where beethoven was born bonn germany and the west of the country even there most events this year have had to be canceled the only one thats left is at a construction site believe it or not its a very special 2 hour by the documentary Theater Group i mean you call. Beethovens 250th birthday wasnt supposed to be celebrated in a construction site but the beethoven howler and vaughan built in 1959 and 1. 00 of west germanys foremost venues is currently undergoing an extensive refurbishment politicians voted for the countrys president here and the glitzy german press pool was celebrated here and of cools it hosted the annual beethoven festival the renovation of the listed building began in 2016 and was due to finish in 2020 that completion has been postponed until 2024 so the bit of another was kind of the White Elephant in the city and then. We have to cancel everything the whole bit of the festival was cancelled. Only this place is left over so its funny enough the the only event thats happening in the beethoven festival so far so the only place that was not supposed to be in the festival and in the anniversary is now the only one thats used. At the weekends our collective riemannian protocol invited visit is on a theatrical walk through of the construction site. We met a lot of people that have different connections to the whole like its intellectual connection so its because of their biographer your profession and then we choose 10 of them that we follow and even because theyre sometimes contradicting each other. In line with social distancing measures the visitors will lead through the premises to meet a host of people closely associated with the b 12 and. The former mayor of bonn. Musicians who performed here. And tossed on the former chief of protocol who oversaw visits