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and nina myskow go head to head ? and nina myskow go head to head? plus, the dame with the game. former education minister andrea jenkyns reacts to a somerset council ditching the word mother in yet another insult to women . in yet another insult to women. and finally, with a new poll showing older people are far more likely to recycle than the gen 2 brigade are, the younger generation eco hypocrites ? it's generation eco hypocrites? it's kim woodburn squares off against the infamous just stop oil protester who went snooker loopy at the world championships . he's at the world championships. he's got balls, as does kim. that's the clash . that's not one to the clash. that's not one to miss. as always , you'll get miss. as always, you'll get a first look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages, hot off the press and the formidable journalist and biographer tom bower will be here on a tough day for the subject of his best selling book. boris johnson. so a packed two hours coming up with my big opinion on the way. it's a lively one. first, the news and tatiana sanchez . mark news and tatiana sanchez. mark thank you very much and good evening. >> this is the latest from the newsroom. boris johnson's former chief adviser has told the covid inquiry he warned of the nhs imploding like a zombie apocalypse film . dominic apocalypse film. dominic cummings says he called for daily crisis meetings fearing the pandemic was coming much faster than expected . he also faster than expected. he also said the government had no plan to help vulnerable people during lockdown and the cabinet office was trying to block the creation of a shielding plan . israel's of a shielding plan. israel's military says it was targeting a very senior hamas commander in an airstrike on the jabalya refugee camp . this is video refugee camp. this is video footage that they have released this evening. israel defence forces says it destroyed entrances to terror tunnels, weapons and military equipment. the airstrike killed 50 palestinians and left 150 injured. officials are now saying the opening of gaza's rafah border crossing tomorrow will allow for 81 severely wounded palestinians to be treated in egypt . meanwhile treated in egypt. meanwhile a group of pro—palestinian activists have staged a sit in at liverpool street station in london in protest at the israel—hamas conflict . more than israel—hamas conflict. more than 500 people joined the protest to demand an immediate ceasefire to israel's attacks on gaza and an end to arms exports to israel . end to arms exports to israel. the xl bully dogs will be banned at the end of the year from the sist at the end of the year from the 31st of december. it will be illegal to breed, sell, rehome or abandon an xl bully dog and existing owners will be required to follow a strict set of rules such as ensuring the dog is muzzled and on a lead . and king muzzled and on a lead. and king charles has delivered a speech at the state house in nairobi, where he quoted from the late queen his mother's diary in that queen his mother's diary in that queen elizabeth. the second said she didn't want to miss a moment of kenya's extra ordinary landscape. king charles also thanked the people of kenya for their support for the late queen. in 1952, when she became monarch. his majesty also acknowledged the more difficult times of britain and kenya's shared history, with her finishing with a touching toast. it is upon the enduring connection between our people that our partnership rests . that our partnership rests. >> it is on their enterprise imagination and fortitude that our common hopes depend . our common hopes depend. together, we are stronger together for our future is more secure here and together . as secure here and together. as your national anthem says , may your national anthem says, may we dwell in unity, peace and liberty . liberty. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio, and now on your smart speaken radio, and now on your smart speaker. by simply saying play gb news. now it's back to . mark gb news. now it's back to. mark >> i thought i was watching trainspotting, goodfellas or an episode of the thick of it today , turning the air tory blue. >> boris johnson's former chief adviser, dominic cummings, spoke to the official covid inquiry. you called ministers useless pigs you called ministers useless pigs more . in you called ministers useless pigs more. in the emails and whatsapps to your professional colleagues . colleagues. >> do you think you contributed to a lack of effectiveness on the part of ministers and of the cabinet? >> my appalling language is obviously my own, but but my judgement of a lot of senior people was widespread . people was widespread. >> blimey . when i heard that >> blimey. when i heard that language, i didn't know whether i was coming or going. he then took a brief break from the and jeffing to share his views on the functioning of the government machine. at the time, the cabinet office was a bombsite and many officials had come to me and said this is causing chaos. >> there has to be some formalised system to actually grip this because the cabinet office was a dumpster fire. >> the cabinet office was a dump ster fire. i'm going to assume that's a bad thing. so who was the best man for the job? i'm assuming the prime minister. i mean, surely it would be the prime minister that was the best person for the job. >> why did you want michael gove to be in charge of regular devolved administration updates and minister? and not the prime minister? >> thought gove would >> i thought gove would handle it times better . it ten times better. >> what? >> handle what? >> handle what? >> ten times better handle the process of dealing with the da's. da's. >> was he the prime minister? >> was he the prime minister? >> obviously no . >> obviously not, no. >> obviously not, no. >> blimey. things must have been very bad . you know you're in very bad. you know you're in trouble when michael gove is your best option. it was a tough day for boris johnson as cummings revealed that he and others who worked with him knew that was to be prime that he was unfit to be prime minister and quote, he won't read papers and he cannot chair meetings . he described boris as meetings. he described boris as like a shopping trolley smashing from one side of the aisle to the other , explaining his the other, explaining his decision to support the blonde bombshell, cummings said they decided to roll the dice on bofis decided to roll the dice on boris and try to build a team around him. well they rolled the dice on the country to the chaotic shambles that was number 10 during the pandemic. confirms what we feared all along. that whilst we were sat on our hands at home in an insane and ruinous experiment to stop a respiratory virus, they didn't have a clue what they were doing . no what they were doing. no evidence based science , no evidence based science, no proper debate, no risk assessment, just chaos and disorder order led by indulgent idiots woefully out of their depth, often drunk on oxford landing or jacobs creek, purchased from the westminster branch of tesco express . we can branch of tesco express. we can be entertained by the soap opera and chuckle at the choice of language, but it won't bring a smile to anyone dealing with the legacy of the in my view, wildly failed policies inflicted upon us for two and a half years , us for two and a half years, where countries with fewer measures saw the same, if not better, outcomes. the sad reality is that boris johnson's instincts were right all along, but he lacked the backbone to follow them through sending a message to one of his advisors, he said he couldn't understand why we were destroying the economy for a virus which saw the average age of death being over 80, which is actually higher than the life expectancy in this country , he joked. get in this country, he joked. get covid, live longer instead , covid, live longer instead, cummings panicked johnson saying the nhs would implode like a zombie apocalypse film without lockdowns happening . well, lockdowns happening. well, thanks to the policies we saw for which those calling them out as mad were demonised, britain is now a zombie apocalypse film now this drawn out and expensive inquiry could go on until 2026. let me save them the trouble and the money. damaging efforts to mitigate a virus that everyone was going to get anyway failed spectacularly . and we are all spectacularly. and we are all paying spectacularly. and we are all paying the price for a broken economy. eyewatering debt and nhs waiting list of 7.6 million people for a mental health tsunami and a generation of damaged kids. forget about dominic cummings language today. my own views on this spectacular and historic mistake are not suitable for broadcast on a family show. however, there are two words i can say on air never again . your reaction, mark .com. again. your reaction, mark .com. i'll get the thoughts now of my brilliant panel, former cabinet minister and gb news presenter esther mcvey, mp , banker and esther mcvey, mp, banker and visiting professor derek lord and author and journalist rebecca reid . derek, your rebecca reid. derek, your reaction to what you heard today in parliament? >> it wasn't in parliament. where was it? it was the inquiry , the parliament, of course it was. >> i think that select committee isn't sitting, but none of it came as a surprise to me. >> i mean, we all know that at the most important level, government is a dysfunctional entity. i mean, there are examples in our living memory which would horrify any taxpayer . for £10 billion spent on an it system in the nhs that then didn't work. the same happened in the ministry of defence . look in the ministry of defence. look at the shambles of hs2, but to come back specifically to cummings , the one thing i would cummings, the one thing i would say about this is that it reveals more about boris johnson than it does about government, because i've always known esther will be able to tell us too in detail that government is pretty dysfunctional at many levels. but it reinforced to me that bofis but it reinforced to me that boris johnson's not really very good at following his own instincts, because if he was following his own instincts , following his own instincts, there wouldn't have been a lockdown and he clearly did not. and i think, too, probably if he was following his own instincts, if truth be known, he would not have been a campaigner to leave the european union. so there are other examples that one could advance to show that the big problem in government at the time was not somebody like cummings, but it was in fact the prime minister himself. >> esther mcvey. are you shocked and disappointed to hear the details of what was going on at number 10 during the pandemic when i listened to dominic cummings , unfortunately, he's cummings, unfortunately, he's got an overinflated opinion of himself. >> he thought he was the genius and everybody else were thickos, quite frankly. and it was the other way round the person. in fact, there were two people whose instincts were right, and that was boris johnson , and it that was boris johnson, and it was sunak. but was rishi sunak. but unfortunately were unfortunately they were browbeaten the lockdown browbeaten by the lockdown fanatics, of which cummings is one. so you've got witty villains, civil servants and villains, the civil servants and as i said, cummings and unfortunately, they buckle to that. but the reality is what bofis that. but the reality is what boris johnson said, the average age of life expectancy in this country is 80.9 years old. the average age, should you have got covid and died? was 83. and the number of people who got covid and died was nought point 3. so should you have followed those figures? you would not have locked down? so we've got locked down? and so we've got our eminent professor, whether that's sunetra whether that's sunetra gupta, whether that's sunetra gupta, whether that was professor carl heneghan saying you shouldn't lock down, you should look after the most vulnerable in society , because vulnerable in society, because what flows from that will be the disasters that happened. and they surely did so sadly for me, bofis they surely did so sadly for me, boris didn't follow his instincts and his failings is that he wants to be loved and sadly, i think that's why he buckled. dominic cummings should never have been in that job. and the tragedy is if boris had had followed his instinct and not locked down, had have done more like sweden , we would have done like sweden, we would have done a lot better and he'd still be in a job. >> and why didn't he? >> and why didn't he? >> there's no point having a view that's retrospective. woulda, shoulda, coulda. why didn't he have the backbone to stand sage his stand up to sage and his colleagues in the civil service and in the cabinet? and possibly in the cabinet? >> i think because he >> i think it is because he wants be loved. he was wants to be loved. he was looking for approval from everybody else. and other everybody else. and the other thing say, when so many thing i will say, when so many people all are ganging up against you , like i said, and against you, like i said, and you're being you're witty, you're being you're witty, you're constantly being told he did some of the did buckle. so some of the things cummings oh, things when cummings said, oh, i spoke for two hours and spoke to him for two hours and he didn't his mind. he didn't change his mind. cummings because he cummings that's because he didn't think much to your opinion. was opinion. but eventually it was watered the fact watered down. and maybe the fact that he got covid also depleted his chaos in number 10. >> rebekah reid, should those who backed lockdowns hang their heads in shame? >> think at the time. why >> no, i think at the time. why not? think at the time not? because i think at the time everybody trying everybody was genuinely trying to thing. nobody. to do the right thing. nobody. it was the wrong thing. >> sure. >> sure. >> absolutely. people make >> absolutely. but people make mistakes. was an mistakes. and this was an unprecedented situation in and i'm one sit here and sing i'm not one to sit here and sing boris's praises. that's not my natural but when boris's praises. that's not my nlookl but when boris's praises. that's not my nlook at but when boris's praises. that's not my nlook at this, but when boris's praises. that's not my nlook at this, i but when boris's praises. that's not my nlook at this, i feel but when boris's praises. that's not my nlook at this, i feel reallynhen i look at this, i feel really cross because i'm not sure that it's a good use anyone's time it's a good use of anyone's time and to pore over how this and money to pore over how this happened. never again. happened. i agree. never again. i think people would it i don't think people would do it again. but are people who again. but these are people who all came to work every day trying to keep him alive and keep safe. is not keep people safe. this is not malicious. it not malicious. it was not totalitarian control. it was not bofis totalitarian control. it was not boris to ruin boris johnson wanting to ruin everyone's was everyone's lives. this was because genuinely thought because people genuinely thought it to do. it was the safest thing to do. and it's really easy to and i think it's really easy to forget that everyone, the tory and i think it's really easy to forgeiwere everyone, the tory and i think it's really easy to forgeiwere in�*eryone, the tory and i think it's really easy to forgeiwere in this ne, the tory and i think it's really easy to forgeiwere in this instanceory party were in this instance working trying the working from trying to do the right derek, the medical experts were clear that lockdowns were very clear that lockdowns masking eventually vaccines were very clear that lockdowns maskirsave eventually vaccines were very clear that lockdowns maskirsave lives. 1tually vaccines would save lives. >> they >> what have they got to apologise for? would argue apologise for? many would argue nothing. well the science changed and advice similarly changed and the advice similarly over time. changed and the advice similarly ovethe time. changed and the advice similarly ovethe one time. changed and the advice similarly ovethe one thingime. changed and the advice similarly ovethe one thing you've got to >> the one thing you've got to remember that there are 216 remember is that there are 216 virus humans in this virus that infect humans in this country in the world. country at and in the world. sorry. and for new viruses, every year . the thing that's every year. the thing that's most strange, i've had a few of them, i don't want to show them, but i don't want to show off that's most off the thing that's most strange you have strange is that you would have thought department of thought the department of health, office and health, the cabinet office and the can i just already the treasury can i just already have in a plan for dealing with. >> there was there was a plan >> there was a there was a plan in place and that was not to lock down. and also had lock down. and also they had these facts in april, may of 2020, was vulnerable to the 2020, who was vulnerable to the disease? and they. do you have any backing a man any regrets for backing a man who was demonstrably the wrong person to be prime minister dunng person to be prime minister during the pandemic? >> vote for him? >> did you vote for him? >> did you vote for him? >> most the party voted for >> most of the party voted for me. i did. and actually, at me. yes, i did. and actually, at the time people were getting him in to do brexit, he did do in to do brexit, which he did do with right personality with the right personality because the whole sunak because of the whole rishi sunak no, there's no way no, i'm saying there's no way rishi at all rishi would have looked at all of advice from all the of the advice from all the scientists said, sure, i'll scientists and said, sure, i'll be the rishi sunak would have crunched the numbers because he is . is a spreadsheet. >> the money like >> he'd furlough the money like sweetie, he one of the very sweetie, he was one of the very few who was anti—lockdown and it was him flying that money like it was free to stop lockdown, carry on. >> we know the socialist view was to lock down like they did in wales and scotland and that was there was basis in charge. >> it was basically the conservative gambled the conservative party gambled the future of a nation by putting somebody inside number 10 that they knew all along could only do thing, and that was do one thing, and that was brexit and nothing else. and it was disaster. was a disaster. >> did okay at the time. >> i did okay at the time. rebecca at the time it was understood to be that there was a very real risk to human life. we know that wasn't the we know now that that wasn't the case, we know case, but we did not know particularly we did at the time. case, but we did not know par did.arly we did at the time. case, but we did not know par did it�*ly we did at the time. case, but we did not know par did it atwe did at the time. case, but we did not know par did it at theiid at the time. case, but we did not know par did it at the very: the time. case, but we did not know par did it at the very beginning, we did it at the very beginning, february 2020. we didn't know we weren't the science very weren't the science was very mixed. by march knew it mixed. no, no. by march knew it was 2020. was april and may 2020. >> they the nought point 3% >> they knew the nought point 3% and knew was vulnerable and they k

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