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hospital capacity. there's also still no stated plan to open up, even at some time in the future. stephen mcdonnell, bbc news, beijing. for more, on this i am joined now from shanghai by frank tsai, who is founder of china crossroads, a forum which organises public lectures in china, most recently about covid. and we have spoken to frank before, it's great to see you back on the programme, thank you forjoining us. you've lived in china for 15 years or so — i know protests are unusual there, so — i know protests are unusualthere, but so — i know protests are unusual there, but this size and scale, how unprecedented in your view is this? i and scale, how unprecedented in your view is this?— your view is this? i haven't seen any _ your view is this? i haven't seen any protests - your view is this? i haven't seen any protests of- your view is this? i haven't seen any protests of this l your view is this? i haven't - seen any protests of this scale in shanghai in the entire 15 years i've lived here. in the past 2—3 decades, there's been tens of thousands of small scale protests, usually about labour rights and against land grabs by officials, but very