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but, basically, i'm for restitution. even if there are circumstances which mean that the works of art may not be secure? we saw how the treasures of timbuktu... that's a... no. ..in mali — when it was overrun by extremists, people really worried about what would happen to these fine treasures in 2013. that's. .. that is really a colonial attitude towards art and also towards museums. and the fact that africa has made incredible progress in sort of excavating their own history and celebrating it, so that's not the problem. it's... you know, it's a false... you know, it's a false excuse.