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you are not only an artist and a sculptor, you're also a poet and a novelist, and you have said you sculpt what you can't write and write what you can't sculpt. so how do you decide which is which, barbara? that is a very good question. they chuckle. i don't know how i do that. all i know is that for a very long time, i kept the two professions totally apart, and that now at the end of my life, finally there is a kind of conversion, or convergence of literature and sculpture. i have two retrospective sculpture exhibitions on back—to—back and i have my memoir, i always knew. yes.

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