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we can now speak tojoanna chiu, who is a journalist and author who covers china. she joins us from vancouver. thank you so much forjoining us. what is your reaction to the scale of these protests? yeah, it's nothing i've seen before as a reporter in beijing or following china from before as a reporter in beijing orfollowing china from outside china. it is rare because generalised political dissent, including quite a few protesters calling for xi jinping to step down, is unusual because everyone in china pretty much well knows about the risk of doing so. so far, it seems like authorities have not cracked down as hard as they could have, perhaps hoping this will fizzle out in time. but i also see it as a long time coming because the west may see it as the chinese being like them, in that they