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yes, i do. we have two people with two different collars. a cheetah is a wildcat, but it's also not a very powerful cat. we try to educate people. >> when you brought the cheetah onto my set, i remember, it was a fully grown cheetah. the was extremely powerful. and i was quite shocked actually to be that close up to a cat that size. first time i had been in such proximity. i could sense real raw power, and that wasn't a lion. it only makes me imagine what a lion would feel like in close proximity. let me ask you this, jack, what it will do, it will raise the debate again about whether a fully grown lion like this beast should ever be in captivity in this way. clearly, it's an ongoing debates. what is your answer to people who say they shouldn't be in captivity for a start? >> the point is in this world, they're there. and 99.99 of them come from other parts, not the wild.

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