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time to talk back. what kind of spiritual leader will draw people back to organized religion? catholics hope pope francis will bring people back to the catholic church, but attracting followers is a problem for all faiths. in a new study, 20% of americans say they have no religious affiliation. the highest number since the 1930s. one researcher told the huffington post it has a lot to do with the increased role of religion in politics. that, quote, this is a product of the involvement of the religious right in american politics and the increasing connection in america's mind that religion equals conservative politics equals religion. joining me now, contributor to the daily beast and amy cremer of the tea party express. welcome. >> thanks for having us. >> welcome. i'm excited to hear your answer to the question. we have been grappling with it. you want to attract more people to the church. how can you do that when a