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what, you know, what they themselves did. and i think that is about the best possible hope. for right now. >> is it much of a hope? at the moment, you've got this guy who is un -- unknown. he's young. he's inexperienced. potentially extremely unpredictable. this is a recipe for potential disaster, if only through a mistake. >> you know, i think that almost everybody who looks at it thinks that most likely north korea is just throwing a tantrum. because this is a strategy that has worked in the past. that they -- threaten a sea of fire in seoul. and eventually maybe people will pay attention to them. and then maybe will bribe them to take a different route. but there is, as you say, always this concern that they may play their cards. they have more of a case for brinksmanship. in 2010, they attacked a south korean vessel with 109 lives aboard. things can can go wrong and if they do, it's not just an issue

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