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really unknown to you, spurred the u.s. into actually pulling the trigger, literally. >> exactly. >> did you think this was something that u.s. officials were aware of, that president obama was aware of? >> no. i mean, it's so humbling now on the other side of it to see what, you know, what the government will do for their citizens. i mean, i had no idea, no idea that anybody knew i was out there. >> because that's got to add to this feeling of complete misery, to feel -- it's one thing to feel like the world is paying attention and people know about it, but to feel like no one's paying attention. >> no, absolutely. i mean, that's why i feel like the title of the book "impossible odds" is so perfect because i felt like i was in the most impossible situation i could ever face, because the only way out, i saw, was paying ransom and $45 million was never going to happen, even it went down to 18 but millions of