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timot timothy mcvey did. unless somebody thinks that is frustrating, annoying, it angers them. we have to remember if we, as a society, we are going to kill someone an sanction that killing, we better get it right. we have many examples of where we got it wrong. so, now, beth karas the big question is, if jodi stand up today. we don't know if she's going to do this orb not, one of the pivotries here, and and says, she has to have an automatic appeal or not if they sentence her to death? >> yes, all, straight to the arizona supreme court. in fact the clerk of courts here has ten days to file the notice of appeal. that's basically her intention to appeal. she will get new counsel because she's indigent will be assigned to her. there are four different agencies in maricopa county which have staffs of attorneys or will farm out like her krnt

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