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as dire as if we hit the debt ceiling, which, by the way, if we hit the debt ceiling that could happen in about three weeks. >> that changes everything, because then ear talking about social security and medicare certainly. >> and that's a worse scenario. if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling in the u.s. quite simply could run out of the money for pay its bills. so think of it as you've got a credit card and you've maxed it out, but the bank's not going to give you a new one, which means the u.s. couldn't pay federal workers, wouldn't pay social security to seniors or medicare or medicaid and that could affect over 110 million people on one of those programs. let's not forget the markets here. how will they react? maybe more expensive to take out a car loan or home loan, and the markets would go nuts, and that could feat your 401(k). >> we already saw that on