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rocked the city following the grand jury decision not to charge the former police officer darren wilson in the death of michael brown. we're back with democratic congressman daniel cleaver. congressman, i think you're with the president as far as military-style equipment from the pentagon being provided to local law enforcement. but you don't like the heavy military equipment but we're told that only about 4% of that equipment is really military grade, which the pentagon provides and made clear yesterday that it will continue to be delivered. is this really a big problem? >> it is. congressman lacy and i flew back from ferguson, from st. louis, actually, with the attorney general and went immediately to the pentagon to meet with secretary hagel and we talked -- we spoke with him about the use of military equipment in what is called the 1033 program and told