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demonstrate, who wanted to make themselves heard, who wanted to carry their signs. so just as soon as this crowd started to pour out of union square police intercepted them cut them off. the crowd headed from east to west. the police cut them off coming from west to east. there was the confrontation that happened right out here in the middle of 17th street. the police tried to force this crowd back to where they had come from. a lot of people again getting out of the way of police listening to police orders getting on the sidewalk. you did see a few people who are put in those hand ties who have been arrested now. we're told they're going to be charged with disorderly conduct. >> thank you very much, we'll check back in as more develops. these protests in solidarity with baltimore and other cities one of them being in new york. the white house doubling down standing by the president's controversial comments calling those who are engaging in riots and looting in baltimore thugs. here's white house spokesman josh earnest today. >> no i don't think the president would in any way