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and has needed reform for decades. these are people fleeing marxism in venezuela. many were falsely told there would be jobs and housing w waiting tfor them when they arrived in massachusetts. do you support what abbott and desantis are doing? >> they're doing their best to try to send a message to the rest of the nation about the plight of those individuals that are coming from south of the border. you're talking about 3.4 million people just since the start of this biden administration that have crossed the border. they're coming into southern states. what is a governor supposed to do? they're trying to send a message to the rest of the country that this is not acceptable, and that their states can't handle that type of an inflow. that's an equivalent of four times the population of my state of south dakota. jake, it's more than that. it's also everything else come across the border at the same time. we're 1200 miles away from the border in south dakota, yet the