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minimum of 25 years in prison. how foul ton and plotting to kill americans. pout is not a security threat to the united states. what do you think he'll do now? >> well, i do think viktor bout is a security threat and we cannot minimize the issue. you need to be very proactive over there. victor booth, he comes with years of experience. years of contact. he started in ukraine. that's one of the areas we need to be concerned about right away. he'll be a major asset for putin. >> interestingly, you're saying in ukraine and starting out that he started in ukraine.