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leader kevin mccarthy says this is bad for national security, that it's an incentive for finding more american targets to hang onto. >> all of these things can be true at once, and i think the way you are both framing it so important. this is not a choice between brittney griner and paul whelan. this was a choice between brittney griner and nothing. that doesn't mean there's still not an important discussion about whether or not the united states engages with rogue nations like russia over getting hostages back. that's an important discussion to have, whether that should happen ever. and, you know, i think it is happening, and i welcome it. i will say there was a distinct change in u.s. policy over this issue. when? the trump administration. this all changed between 2016 and 2020 when donald trump made it a point to do things the united states hadn't really done this overtly before, which was work to get hostages home no