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how do you say they were essential to this country into this economy, and you don't even give us paid sick leave? that is the reality, i think, for many industries. in the pandemic, we saw people were called essential workers, but they weren't being treated like they were essential. they were getting the benefits, they weren't getting the wages. so, workers are realizing their power. there was a time when unions were very strong in this country. you know, for different reasons. outsourcing, union busting, that changed. but workers are reclaiming their time, so to speak, reclaiming their power and saying, you need us. when you flex that power, people have to respond. >> it's interesting, s.e. cupp, because the opinion of unit has got up in the past decades. when we look there was at its lowest point in 2009, only 48% approved of labor unions, today it's at 71%. what's that about? >> well, i will also just say, however, union membership is down. it's been declining for decades. i think the pandemic was a reckoning for anyone who worked.