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>> tucker: no, there are no loopholes. >> there are. at gun shows. >> tucker: i know a lot about this -- hold on, it's not internet sales. m the guns moving from indiana and chicago are moving by car, not by fedex. they are not order me in there. >> how do you think are purchased? >> tucker: that's against the law and the feds don't do anything about it. it's not a loophole, it's unenforced. you're not answering my questio question, there are a lot of guns in maine, vermont, -- >> there's more people in chicago, a lot more people in new york city, that's why the guns go to where the people are very >> tucker: so it's just population then? >> no, it's the fact that we don't have -- tucker -- >> tucker: it's not population. identify flood place with the guns without a lot of murders. maybe there's something else. maybe it's not e the guns. and you know that that's true, -- >> bullets killed that child. if those guns were playing stomach taken off the streets, if those guns weren't able to be purchased by people that did not pass background checks, then a boy may very well still be alive. that is why 94% -- are much talk