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look what he's done when it comes to hurricane relief. he has the bridge to sanibel done. fpl is up and going. he's talking about education and the issues most important to voters. when ideal test his messaging, he performs. when people hear him talk, he's a man of action, not just words. so i think he's somebody that needs to be watched. >> neil: you and i also talked during the break, fellow new jerseyians whether there's the kind of quiet surge that we didn't appreciate a year ago. when the new jersey governor looked like a 20-point favorite to win re-election and he won by one or two points. is there anything like that going on behind the scenes that we don't appreciate? >> yeah, i absolutely think there is. there's a strategy among democrats right now to say that republicans are the ones that a fear mongering. governor hochul talked about anybody concerned about crime as 60 a data denier.

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