governor of virginia, he's going to be out because of term limits at the end of the year. "the new york times" did reporting on this, they dug up other names nobody thought would be connected to the 2020 race. mitch landrieu, mayor of new orleans. "the new york times" says he might be interested. seth molten, second-term congressman from massachusetts, iraq war vet, she's gottgotten visibility as a trump critic. martin o'malley ran in 2016. didn't get much support. he may be interested in 2020. what does this point to, though, in a vacuum like one i was describing when people think it is wide open? you see this. you see names all over the place say, hey, maybe i'll check this out. why not me? maybe there's an opening. take a look at this historically. what could we be looking at in 2020? this is the size of the democratic presidential field. by the time the first contest came around. you can see, single digits. you got to a high there of eight in 2004. 1298 1984.