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and we nearly. typically when you get this or somebody in the deputy attorney generals office who signed off on it. i bet in this case that authorization probably went a little bit higher. what it means is you go back to the possibly a defendant more likely a witness whose testimony you like you would like, and we say we just granted you use immunity, that means you can't be prosecuted based in your testimony or any evidence we derive from it. oh and by the way you no longer have a fifth amendment privilege to assert, so you're gonna have to answer the questions truthfully. up to this point everything was great for the witness, they are off the hook. but here's the kicker. if they answer any questions untruthfully, they can be prosecuted for perjury. so the only thing that serves them here is the truth. >> okay, so the idea here is that you don't want to talk and have a fifth amendment right not to. fifth amendment right protects you from incriminating yourself in some fashion. we will take away that specter