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over everything. said for the first time since he started running the president sounded joyful. >> yeah. >> he sounded happy. he sounded relieved. and he sounded like the american people are good people, and i have been saying that, and i finally feel justified for all of these people who have been telling me i need to, like, just crash and burn and do what trump does. he said, they're good people. you can trust them. >> yeah, look, i've talked to the white house and people close to president biden too. >> how close to him? >> very close. not related. he used to talk when i was in the white house how after the election of 2020, the nerves were frayed. all of our nerves were frayed. he didn't get to enjoy, there was no big inauguration, he had