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in fact engaged in insurrection. so this resolution will detail the president's conduct in inciting the insurrection. it is about 25 pages as of right now. and it will, determine as a result of, that he's part of the 14th amendment from holding is disqualified from holding federal office. >> as you know we have seen other candidates survive 14th amendment challenges in the past. a judge ruled it could not keep marjorie taylor greene off the ballot in georgia. do you think that logic applies here? >> i think she was in quite a different position. at least i'm not aware of marjorie taylor greene inciting or participating in it. with donald trump the evidence is overwhelming that he incited and promoted the big lie by giving that speech on the rally and by really refusing to intervene and stop the insurrection. i think the evidence is overwhelming that he in fact was the principal cause of this