look at medicare and medicaid and security. their authors knew this can't last. but we'll be dead and gone by the time the bill comes due. and you can't get democrats to focus on what we're going to do with the programs going bankrupt. they just want to keep demagoguing, demagoguing, demagoguing. >> if the republicans are so brilliant, and don't dispute -- >> i do not think republicans are brilliant. >> i don't dispute your words here, but if they're so perfect, why is it that america, this great superpower, was dragged into the biggest recession it ever has had under eight years of republican administration. >> i'm glad you asked that. that's one of the first examples i use in chapter one. >> i know. but why is it? >> what happened was, it was like a three or four-step process, it is relatively simple. you had the democrats through fannie mae and freddie mac pushing politically or rather financially suicidal loans on the banks. you have to give mortgages to poor people.