weakened. the middle class was treading water. i don't think the answer is for us to turn back. i think the answer is to stand up for what this country is capable of achieving. >> president obama expressing faith that the american economy can turn around. to you share his faith, jack? >> with the right policies, certainly do. i think the american spirit's alive and well. and we just need a clear direction. where everybody can get in line to follow it. inclauding the government. and the private sector. >> when you retired and you left ge, five, six, seven years ago -- >> ten. >> ten, really as long ago as that? so ten years ago. >> yeah, i mean, ten years.