this the naacp was going to give him a lifetime achievement award knowing all this. i can't say that maybe david stern knew and acknowledge the fact that naacp absolutely knew of the history and felt okay to give him a lifetime achievement award. >> everybody has access to google. >> everybody, i mean, look, man, obviously the naacp, he was donating money and giving them tickets so they kind of overlooked the situation. but the fact of the matter is now this is a moment in time where we can galvanize the efforts of the players and the african-american community. this is a big problem that can set us back if we sit around and let this go away. so i'm excited to see what happens next. to see how we all come together and really get this guy to force him out of the league. >> i think it has to be beyond