kplisity in keeping racism alive and well today? >> i believe there has been a generation there that do see the world through similar values. or else they wouldn't have voted for an african-american president. i think he is an isolated incidents and there is more of that. but there are isolated incidents of people with racism in their heart. he was caught on tape. >> what power does the nba have in deciding to remove him as an owner or what have you? we saw what the nba can do. they can fine him. according to the bylaws that i see up to $2.5 million. and they can vote -- vote 3/4 of the nba board of governors which is composed of all 30 owners to get rid of him. what options do they have here? >> yeah, so, is it true he can